I did that shit for a year. Snorted it everyday. I ended up in a psych ward from a break down. If you do it, don't do that shit too much. You'll want to jump in front of a train. It's the worst experience you'll ever go through. Take it once a week or some shit.
Adderal is pure Dextro-amphetamine which goes by the streetname speed. However most speed you can get on the streets is made in not-so professional laboratories and therefore may contain other forms of amphetamines which occur during non-professionalized synthesis.
Good Speed-paste usually contains >70% D-amphetamine though.
My guess is you're thinking about Ritalin, which is Methylphenidate. This is a different from speed, yes.
Why is no one talking about Vyvanse. They are better then Adderall in every way, last for 12 hours, they bind an inactive prodrug form of dextroamphetamine to a protein in your stomach which regulates the flow to give you a constant focus over 12 hours, I've been on it everyday for 2 months now and from what I understand they take way longer to build a tolerance too since they are regulated like this
>>9617920 Try taking one of these and going back to sleep before it kicks in, everything suddenly feels like it's moving so incredibly slowly you wake up an hour later and think you've slept for 4 and feel so incredibly rested
>>9618052 I sell Vyvanse and Adderall and sleeping pills at college. Around finals time Addy goes for 10$ a pill Vyves go for 7-8$ and sleeping pills for 5$. Always sell sleeping pills with Addy, they go like hotcakes cause everyone thinks they won't be able to sleep so they buy a bunch
>>9618205 I'd buy it for 10€. In other countries i probably could even do it legally, but here in germoney are fucking autistic when it comes to meds. Even refused to prescribe me anti acne meds and I was seriously covered in them like some medieval black death victim. Then some more ambitious professor who started practicing at the hospital had mercy and prescribed them to me.
Meanwhile American doctors give prescription meds like sweets.
You might try to cast it like your depression stems from being frustrated and anxious about being unable to do things that everyone around you can do, like sit through meetings or focus on things or take road trips without going crazy.
On the other hand some antidepressants interact badly with Adderall and can trigger seratonin syndrome (Celexa is an example). So do your homework.
>>9618229 I told my psychiatrist I tried one of my sisters aderralls and that it made me want to talk to people and act normally. He wasnt happy told me not to do it again but when i went back for my monthly visit yesterday he told me he talked to one of his colleagues about the use of stimulants for depression and now hes starting me on dextroamphetamine.
Adderall is effay insofar as it'll severely cut your appetite.
You'll also earn yourself a nicotine addiction.
The holy trinity: caffeine, nicotine, amphetamine.
Prepare to maybe turn to depressants at the end of the day to fall asleep (a very vicious cycle)
Adderall is not effay insomuch as it will turn you into a lunatic. Well, at least if you were a little eccentric to begin with. Another anon mentioned earlier that many famous authors have used amphetamine to do inhuman amounts of work. That's why I take it, but everything has it's price.
If you are a bit of a maniac to begin with, adderall will exacerbate your enthusiasm. If you have noticed latent schizo-type things in your life (auditory&visual hallucination, paranoia, catatonia, etc.) then you need to tread lightly.
And for god's sake, don't self-medicate. Go to a doctor and get an ECG. Make sure everything is OK for you physically before experimenting with speed.
Finally, abusing adderall is not effay. Taking the stuff and masturbating for 8 hours is fuccboi. You take it to get shit done. If you're the kind of person who takes it to feel like a social god, then you were a social retard to begin with.
>>9618336 4fmp is meer xtc achtig dan ritalin achtig. Ik heb geen ervaring met het gebruiken als studie middel maar misschien werkt dat ook wel goed.
Het is een beetje xtc achtig maar wat minder waus. Je kan het bij een smartshop halen als je vraagt naar "4fmp", officieel mag je het niet verkopen als middel om te consumeren maar het staat niet in de opiumwet dus het wordt wel gedaan.
Voor leuke tijd haal er ook truffels (legale paddos) bij in de smartshop en neem 4fmp met truffels.
50 - 80 mg is een lichte dosis 80 - 140 mg is de gebruikelijke dosis 130 - 180 mg is een zeer sterke dosis (en wordt onervaren gebruikers ook afgeraden)
>>9617121 does anyone find that adderall gives them acne? literally the only times ive ever had major blemishes is when i was taking adderall. shit helped me alot in terms of workflow but i just cant take it because of that.
>>9619000 smartshops are shops where they sell legal drugs, smoke gear, cannabis seeds and other shit. Most popular product is probably "truffels", they are legal shrooms which contain psilocybin. You can buy mescaline cactus in smartshops too. Some smartshops also sell research chemicals like 4-FMP, 2C-E, DMT etc. pic related is a smart shop.
>>9619004 Kans dat je gepakt word met drugs van evolutionmarket is heel erg klein. Met ritalin kan je sowieso doen want methylfenidaat valt niet binnen de opiumwet dus word het ook niet vervolgd. Wat je ook kan doen is het laten versturen naar een ups pickup point of naar een postnl punt en dan ophalen via echte/valse ID kaart.
>>9617920 Had to stop taking this shit man, side effects started hitting me hard. I'd go days without being able to eat and even after I'd stop taking it my sleep patterns were horribly fucked up and I was always tired. I'd be sort of on edge and quiet and depressed after the comedown too which made me inadvertently mean to people after the pills wore off. Also caused tongue swelling for me which meant there was no comfortable way to rest my tongue in my mouth without biting the sides up. I'm just sticking to cocaine and snorting Focalin from now on.
>>9619000 when i was like 16/17 i bought alot of 4-fmp because it was reaally cheap. 500mg for 15$ was the price at the time and i would get really high for 6 hours from 100mg.
Its so cheap because its semi-legal and untaxed. Its officially legal to have and use but its not permitted to sell for consumption. The smartshops sell it as "survival kits" and put a sticker on it that says it's not for human consumption so it's legal.
You should definitely see a smartshop when your visiting the netherlands
>>9618993 Yeah, but I think that was just from forgetting to keep up my normal skincare routine and being awake much longer than normal and forgetting to stay as hydrated as I needed to. Same experience with all stimulants aside from coke.
No, not really. If taken sparingly with a healthy attitude...well, it is what it is. Neither good nor bad.
If abused or taken recreationally, you stand a pretty good chance to wind up in your own personal hell.
I took 1200mg of Vyvanse in the span of three days a few years back because I was a fucking idiot. It unmade me. It's taken a couple of years to regain any semblance of normality in my life since then.
Suffice it to say, I'm better now. Still have a ways to go, though.
Keep the right attitude. Establish healthy attitudes and habits. Don't abuse anything. Cut that shit out and leave it out.
>>9617853 other forms of amphetamines aren't a by-product or impurity commonly (or at all) found in street speed (amphetamine).
speed paste contains a racetame, which is 50% d-amphetamine of the total amount of amphetamine it contains.
>>9617912 in the states speed is usually methamphetamine, in the rest of the world, especially the places where amphetamine isn't a commonly available ADHD medication (like most of Europe), speed is amphetamine and "meth" or "crystal" is the common name for methamphetamine.
ADHD medication usually contain the (active) dextro isomer. methamphetamine is not neurotoxic at all doses.
>>9617934 snorting doesn't produce any negative side effects that oral consumption wouldn't, most drugs can be insufflated. the recommended dose changes due to bioavailability, though.
>>9618008 There are no nootropics with speed-like effects and "none of the side effects". Most nootropics are worthless, anyway. Depending on your definition of nootropic, speed is a nootropic and modafinil is too (and, too, has particular side effects, for me even stronger ones)
>>9618216 this is only right for the US, see above.
>>9619073 not that guy, but for me, modafinil was like enhanced caffeine. Just wakeness, nothing more, but for about 8 hours. used it a lot during my studies. got severe headaches as a side effects after some time. sorry, I almost get a stroke when I read people sharing half-truths about drugs on the internet. source; pharma grad, used to cook amphetamines in my lab to get through college couple years ago.
me and my friends pop this shit all the time and have the greatest conversations and write songs and shit. We went through 30 pills in five days on a crazy amphetamine bender. Acid might be a deeper more rewarding experience or whatever, but I think I've had the most fun on amphetamines.
another thread? hard enough to get this shit as it is..now there are going to be 15y/os in the news w/ heart attacks making adderall/vyvanse/any adhd med illegal take it if you need to study not to 'have fun' this isnt a 'fun' drug..itll ruin your life if you take it for the wrong reasons trust me
>>9619736 HMMMMM I bet hospital workers/parents/any rational adult wouldnt catch on that idiots are abusing prescription stimulants to the point of near death and decide to make them a) illegal or b) impossible to get God some pepole are so dumb the adderall high is mediocre at best. only worth taking for school/work if you want to fuck up your heart/actually have fun do the ocassional line of coke w/ friends like a normal person instead of swallowing 15pills..how stupid can you get
>being a fucking pussy who needs medication to focus on your work >being a fucking pussy who needs medication to lose weight >being a fucking pussy who does mental gymnastics to convince themselves they have a psychological problem when in reality they didn't have a father that told them to harden the fuck up and get their shit done
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