Ok /fa/, it is time to prove your worth.
This thread is for discussing of the arts. Paintings, sculptures, film, haute couture, discuss it all here. I shall commence by posting this guide of films.
I don't get why inception would be posted here at all. It's like a way overhyped movie that mostly teen ninegaggers are drooling over. Inglorious Basterds is cool but it doesn't belong here as well.
i like inception, but damn it is defs not /fa/
How do you even begin a discussion on art? I feel like pretty much all art is /fa/. There's not like a group of artists you can suggest that are fashionable. If they're any good, they're probably /fa/ regardless of the subject matter.
Chungking Express, Tree of Life, Under the Skin, Trainspotting, Shame
Beyond the Black Rainbow was an interesting experience. If you don't feel like watching it, this Lorn music video pretty much summarizes the entire movie.
anyone watched god help the girl? it's silly and hipster but some of the outfits and (especially) sets are quite amazing.
was just gonna say Plein soleil, dat body aesthetic
would recommend Grande Bellezza aswell. great decors and nice clothes
Stalker, Videodrome, Wild at Heart, The Master...
I just can't get over the aesthetics of it. So surreal.
>>The Picture of Dorian Gray
>>The Bell Jar
just finish intro to literature 101 at your local community college?
anyways, if you're looking for /fa/ literature just kill yourself already. look for good literature. here are a small handful of recommendations
>flaubert's madame bovary
>mann's magic mountain
>wolfe's look homeward angel
>dostoevsky's brothers karamazov
>turgenev's fathers and sons
>lawrence's sons and lovers
>zola's la debacle
that should give you a good start
My Own Private Idaho
The Doom Generation
books? Read whatever interests you, try and follow a "path" and you'll only ruin reading for yourself.
I'd say read Haruki Murakami. He's very popular with hipster girls, is easy to begin with and does start producing some good reads in his career. Read a few of those, then try a better Japanese (for example)author, maybe Mashima. Once you a feel for reading, just go to stores and find new authors. Enjoy the experience of gathering self knowledge - that is /fa/.
germinal is one of my favorite books (the sex scene at the very end is legendary), therese raquin is good too. I suggested la debacle because it gives an historical sweep and a story of a great friendship like few other novels do. I like benjamin constant to, both his political writings as well as his literary ones. I appreciate baudelaire, but he was more of a poet, no? Sartre I can't get into. I never saw a whole lot of merit in any of the existentialist literature I've read. I've read a lot of Sartre's philosophy too, the way he tries to synthesize hegel and heidegger is a total failure imo. I can appreciate the man, but I wouldn't recommend him to others. And I've never heard of boris vian.
i just started a thread on /lit/ on zola actually
but because it's not about DFW or Pynchon i doubt anyone will actually contribute to it
>I'd say read Haruki Murakami. He's very popular with hipster girls, is easy to begin with and does start producing some good reads in his career.
I've read almost all of Murakami's works. He is popular with hipster girls, I have to admit, and I often use it as an opener when chatting with them on okcupid or whatever.
But in general, murakami has the problem of writing the same damn story with the damn damn protagonist every single book. Sure, they're enjoyable and intriguing reads, but after a while you begin to realize that there's nothing profound about them. His last two novels 1Q84 and Colorless Tskuru were pretty weak in my opinion.
Best Murakami novels are Kafka on the Shore, Dance Dance Dance, and Wind-up Bird Chronicle. His short story collection "After the Quake" is pretty good too, as are the interviews he conducts with the witnesses to the Tokyo subway poison gas attacks.
I think he's a very thoughtful person but has trouble breaking out of his comfort zone.
Sartre ruined existentialism when he tried to synthesize it with Marxism. He was pretty critical of Heidegger, but his criticism is unconvincing; moreover, Heidegger adequately and irrevocably criticized Sartre's entire system, that it's not particularly important to read his philosophy. He's a slightly better playwright than prose writer.
He broke his comfort zone when he wrote after dark, but then regressed back into it thereafter. I wish I hadn't read after dark as my first murakami book because everything else was a disappointment.
Well in that time you basically had to be "in" with the establishment French marxism (Stalinism) in order to get a job in academia. Sartre was never a good Marxist anyways, but neither were any of the French for that matter. Sure he was critical of Heidegger (at least Sartre talks about freedom!), but I feel like he is still very much influenced by the problems Heidegger poses. But I absolutely despire Heidegger and the influence that he's had. I remember reading the entirety of Being and Time for a course taught by a jewish professor sympathetic to Heidegger. It was then that I learned even jews could be sympathetic to nazi ideas. And despite the teenaged edgelords on this site, there's nothing remotely /fa/ about nazism.
Nowadays I try not to read any philosophy written after Hegel (I take seriously his claim that he's the end of philosophy)
yes, I suppose I forgot about that one. He experiments with a lot of different kinds of characters in that one, right? It's more disjointed than his more well-known works, right?
He still has quite a few years left of productive activity, so hopefully he can write something new. I've read some of his recent short stories he's been getting published in the New Yorker, but they aren't nearly as good as some of his earlier stories in something like the Elephant Vanishes
i really hope he can break out of his slump. he's honestly the only living novelist I bother keeping up with
Everything with Ryan Gosling
He's the epitome of /fa/
What about that children's book, The Strange Library? I got it for my little sister and it was rather different but beautiful all the same.
I haven't read it yet. I didn't even know it came out until my friend told me about it after I suggested she read Murakami. She was supposed to send it to me but then she lost it (?) apparently. I want to read it, maybe I'll just go to barnes and noble and read it in one sitting.
But I've been re-reading Kafka on the Shore recently and have been thinking that it's actually a YA novel. If I were a high school english teacher I would assign it
Idk if I would call him YA. Because we would first have to settle the issue of what classifies as Ya, then ultimately discuss pure and mass literature. I think we should just examine and analyze murakami's texts. I'm quite interested in his understanding of selfhood in a cosmopolitan meta-fiction: Sputnik sweetheart and Kafka on the shore, and somewhat in after dark
i was referring to kafka on the shore specifically. the protagonist is a 15 y/o boy after all, in a process of self-discovery and to a lesser extent, sexual exploration. I don't really care for the label of "YA" either, I was just thinking how if I were a HS english teacher I would think about assigning it
Well Proust's protagonist in the Search is roughly around 13 in the book. I agree I think that assigning Kafka on the shore to high school student would be great because I think they could relate more to the hyper accelerated modernity in murakami's works.
>because I think they could relate more to the hyper accelerated modernity in murakami's works.
where are you getting that from? it's not in kafka on the shore, the kid spends most of his time either in an old library or in a cabin in the woods, completely isolated from the rest of the world. I think you're projecting theoretical themes onto a book when they simply aren't there
>at least Sartre talks about freedom!
>Philosophy is not about investigating problems by smithing concepts
>It is about being axiologicaly nice
>Sein und Zeit
>Hegel was not as deeply ironic as Plato when he said that he was the end of philosophy
Damn son, never go full retard like this
I expected a lot more from The Skin I Live In. Some parts were beautiful but mostly it was not as weird as it made itself out to be in trailers and movie promos.
I prefer my peasant when they know where they come from.
You know, a farm maid wisthling a popular song is, in a way, much more deep than any kind of literature.
But everytime she tries to talk about cultural objects, the results are just ridiculous.
Learn to know your place.
Let's post some haute couture.
Pic related is by Iris van Herpen, probably one of my favourite designers at the moment, her ready-to-wear collection are very good as well.
The dialectical process of irony in philosophy since Plato is quite hard to grasp.
You either choose to point out serious problems by being ironic, as Plato or Nietzsche, or to hide your irony by pointing out serious problems, as Kant or Descartes.
Sartre tried to hide serious problems under simulated irony to obtain social success which he seemed to disdain as if it was a serious problem resulting in his eyes not being able to focus on one thing at the same time
if you can read french definitely check out vian's "L'écume des jours" or "Froth on the Daydream" in english. It sucks that Vian never really got the recognition he deserves for his masterpiece. "Automne à Pékin" is also a good read. (Autumn in Peking is the english version). I read both of these in french so idk how well they translate to english but they were both incredible.
Louis Ferdinand Céline, Voyage au bout de la nuit, Mort à crédit
Léon Bloy, La Femme pauvre, Le Désespéré and his incredible Exegèse des lieux communs of course
Alexandre Vialatte, Les Fruits du Congo, Battling le ténébreux, Le Fluide rouge, Le Fidèle Berger
André Gide, Les Caves du Vatican, Les Faux-monnayeurs, Si le Grain ne meurt
lol no i dont really though
>If you do not read Kafka as he wrote it, i.e. bursting in laughter, you're doing it wrong.
kafka is very funny, I have to admit. i guess he has dark themes, but in general it's very humorous
picture of the original godzilla set are pretty effay imo
tbh im surprised no one has mentioned fear and loathing in las vegas yet. love the soundtrack for that film.
by the way, im think of opening a thread like this more often, any ideas how to name it? i was thinking finer arts or something among the likes of that. not certain yet. so far this thread has been pretty good, i have a big list of books i want to read and films to watch now.
the first godzilla was really morbid. the movie literally starts with like 1000 people dying from radiation cancer and burns.
If anyone is interested in reading about the effects of severe exposure to radiation:
>Ouchi's intestines began to melt, so doctors put a camera in his rectum to monitor their condition. His muscular tissue broke down to the point where it began to slide off of his bones. He died 82 days after exposure of multiple organ failure in a condition that can be described as "skeletonized".
one flew over the cuckoos nest
the good the bad and the ugly
the lives of others
les trois coleurs (kieslowski is polish but these are in french)
les regles du jeu
À bout de souffle
la dolce vita
ghost in the shell
>Sartre tried to hide serious problems under simulated irony to obtain social success which he seemed to disdain as if it was a serious problem resulting in his eyes not being able to focus on one thing at the same time
lmao, most underrated post in this whole fucking thread
Fear and Loathing is my favorite movie and I've only recently seen it. I'm by no means any type of movie enthusiast and I've only seen a handful that would probably be worth mentioning in this thread but I love that movie so much. I really need to get around to finding the book to read.
>Lol @ no one but OP mentioning ______
I imagine everyone that says this is a pleb that hasn't watched much movies and thinks his one movie is receiving not enough attention compared to the thousands of good movies that could be mentioned in the thread
I imagine I am always right
>A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night
>Fallen Angels (1995)
>Eyes Wide Shut
>The 39 Steps
>Dillinger is Dead