>Day 5 of nofap
>Energy, virility, drive through the fucking roof
>Feel like I can do any task, all the drive and energy in the world
>But there is nothing more I want than to bust this fat fucking nut, either in someone or just a fap
Other noticed effects have been a more dominant and aggressive mindset (aggressive in a practical and useful way, not retarded anger). I think about having power over women and controlling them, whereas a week ago I'd think about feet and mutual love and cumming quickly.
If you can handle the pressure you reach godmode.
>I think about having power over women and controlling them
Tell us that feelin' anon.
Just visualisations and such. It's like when you're horny and start thinking of hot images automatically. The images I call up are ones of women wanting me, women being lead and directed by me, me pumping away like a nigger.
My lifestyle habit before was fapping literally every morning, maybe even twice, before I'd even get out of bed. I didn't even notice how much that drains you, your focus and energy are fucking shot all day. I was like that for years.
Now I feel almost like I've won the lottery. Then at other times I feel like there's nitrous pumping through my veins and I'm going to burst.
Will nofap and no porn help me? I watch porn several times a day now and fap more than ever. Regularly porn does fucking nothing for me, and I started watching weird /gif/ shit.
I had a tranny phase for like 3 months a while ago and soon that got old now I'm fapping to close up of guys shooting their load aka men masturbating by themselves. If I can see their faces I get turned off, and likewise gay porn is still disgusting, but wtf is happening to me. Am I fucking gay or something now because a year ago I would never have fapped to this kind of shit and was content with regular straight porn.
Pls help, Could this be due to porn addiction, since I have to find different, weird shit to fap to every few months?
>day 3 of nofap
>wake up in the morning with a hardon
>loosely remember dreaming licking my flatmates anus clean
>he's a guy
yeah no more nofap for me that shit is /fit/s ploy to turn us all gay i feel like
I fap every night before sleep and in the morning when I wake up. It's such a force of habit.
I want to try no fap for a week or so, but every time I try I get nightmares for some reason.
It's overstimulation, yeah.
You're not gay which is why you don't like to see faces, heck I used to fap exclusively to gay porn for a while even while being straight and hating myself after every nut. Just looking at the sex was hot though.
You need to calm your body, mentally and physically. Do nofap for as long as you can, but definitely do noporn from now on. Don't touch yourself for a week minimum, then keep the fapping to every three days max. Try and get it to once a week.
Well, if this thread talks about September No Fap, it's been 3 days already and not 5. But if it helps you to get more confident, good for you mate. Keep it up.
> 3 days with no fap
> don't feel anything particular
> just plain relaxed, chilled
I spent hours reading ex Mormon forums about what they got up to when they were abroad staying in flats and preaching as they aren't allowed to fap at all
Felt disgusting after
I can stop fapping whenever I want to.I didn't fap for a month at February.Currently haven't fapped for a week.
Not much changes in me,to be honest.I feel more focused in what I do though.
I would stop fapping for good because I can control myself,but I hate wet dreams.It's the worst fucking feeling.I don't get them that frequently,but when you stop fapping for a long while it's usually inevitable.Basically,I fap to not jizz myself while sleeping.
Yes, you can have such a sexual deviance that you begin to masturbate to the opposite of your sexual preference. Almost everyone is always going to have at least a slight attraction to the opposite sex. Keep watching porn, keep getting bored with what you're actually attracted to, and keep deviating, and eventually you end up watching that shit (i.e. extremely specific porn--just guys masturbating, no face).
Go on nofap. Stay on it for a while. Switch to no porn all your life, eventually. Fap every once in a while.
Has no fap made any of you guys smarter? I dunno, maybe it's just me but now that I've stopped fapping I've had an easier time focusing, probably going to keep no fap going until I do the LSAT.
i did no fap and suddenly while i was fapping i thought of this pic of a young blonde guy with a totally shaved bubble butt on all fours,
then i imagined him begging to suck my straight penis dry and me eventually mouth fucking him
what have i become...
Being gay isn't a "route" or something.You were always gay if you are attracted to that stuff.Porn just made you explore it faster.
I watch a lot of porn,and I deviated as well,but not to the point of homosexual porn.
If you aren't just saying "no" to that,you have been gay all along.Porn can't progressively make your sexual orientation change like magic.
Yeah, I went through about a month of dick addiction after I broke up with mine. Took a while to pull myself out. Now I'm just trying to keep myself busy so I don't fap. It's working and I feel better than I did.
Probably not, no, that sounds like a balanced amount. The biggest benefiters of nofap are obviously the chronic fappers.
Ejaculation sedates you. Not ejaculating for a while reduces the sedative in your body. Which means you become more energised, so you think quicker and clearer. Frequent fapping makes you sub-human.
>i did no fap and suddenly while i was fapping
I think you're doing no fap wrong.
>i did no fap and suddenly while i was fapping
What? It just snuck up on you from behind?
Sometimes I fuck my gymbros in the ass and get them to suck me off. Last week I had two guys sucking me off in the gym changing rooms when someone walked in then did a 180 and left.
I'm not gay though it's a power and strength thing. Who is the strongest? I'll show you with my dick.
>tried no fap (no porn really..) several times.
>always felt super energetic, motivated to do stuff (wether its placebo or not is really did do wonders)
>after half a year of being together we still have sex several times a day
>stop watching porn to increase sex life
>after just 1 week of no porn i get rock hard erections, my dick is 1 cm longer (from 15 to 16) and its hard as fuck
>sex is much better
>gf really enojys my new rock hard penis
>gf becomes stressed from school and her home situation
>shes also losing weight
>her libido drops significantly
>we have shitloads of days where we dont have sex
>the times we do have sex she really doenst seem to enjoy it as much as she did before.
>my qt little perv gf with whom i used to do all kinds of freaky stuff has become an old hag that just lies there and let me do my thing on top of her..
>i go to college with 95% girls
>i have good facial aesthetics and i lift
>try to contain urges
>i really need to get relief
>decide to go back to fapping to porn again
>gf finds out
>she feels incredibly bad about herself for not being abled to satisfy my needs
>probably constantly afraid i will cheat on her
Should i do it for her, /fit/? should i go back to no porn? I afraid that i get honry 24/7 when im at college. If you dont have a gf its all awesome but i dont know what to do now..
S-should i do it for her?
>gf is stressed about school and home situation
>HURR I'M HANDSOME AND SURROUNDED BY GIRLS WHY DOESN'T SHE PLEASE ME DURRRRR
Go on nofap for her or leave her. You sound like you don't deserve her anyway, just man the fuck up.
Meh just move on. If you're as attractive as you say you'll find someone better. I dated a girl who would hardly give me a bj, I had to dump her after a while. You have urges than need to be satisfied man.
Im not trying to brag. Sex is just super important in a relationship. Not getting your needs satisfied while being constantly surrounded and flirted to by tons of hot girls 5 days a week is a pretty serious situation to be in imo..
Yeah sex is a big thing in a relationship. If he was like super christian and they never fucked It'd be different. But they used to fuck and now he's not being satisfied, something needs to change he can't just go on like this.
Then as I said, leave her.
Young males aren't capable of seeing the emotional damage they cause by jumping from one poon to the next. Let her down as soon as possible to not be a dick, if you even care IN THE SLIGHTEST.
Your attention is most definitely not with her. It's with you, and you're more focused on getting your dick wet than helping her with whatever is going on. Leave her asap, for both your sakes.
i noticed its not nofap that is making me feel better, its having a proper sleep cycle. i rarely woke up early and always slept way too long. so when i woke up i felt like shit and i was way past my morning test spike. i also woke up without morning wood and if i really rubbed one out anyway it made me felt miserable the whole day. now that i go to bed earlier and wake up in the morning i have massive morning wood, erotic dreams, can rub one out and still feel energetic and confident. its exactly what i expected nofap would do for me, but its actually the proper sleep that helped me.
Well im not super attractive but ive got above average facial aesthetics so on a 95% girls college that ought to give you some attention..
Also i really dont want anyone "better". My gf and me really get along well and our sex life used to be great, she was up for pretty much anything. I feel like it would be a dick move to leave her especially when its all because of the fact that she feels bad. I just dont know wether i should keep watching porn or not. Im afraid that if i do no porn that the temptation will become even greater
>started noporn for life a week ago because of gf
>relapse huge yesterday
Shit fucking sucks. I don't even know how it happened, but I just lost all will to try and started surfing. It's like all the reasoning behind it just blew out from the window and it's really hard to start abstaining again.
Because you're derailing my thread when you can easily make a new thread. They're two completely separate topics, yours is off-topic, and you've received multiple responses anyway.
Stop being an asshole everywhere you go you self-entitled kiddy.
becasue nofap while you have gf, your'e still getting your rocks off now and then. in nofap while single you literally never get to cum
therefore, it is a completely different, much more difficult situation.
My situation is that i had an amazing sex life, and that i stopped watching porn for my amazing sex life. But now because of my gfs issues, my sex life really isnt that amazing anymore and i really dont know what im doing it for and my increasing sexual urges make me just want to watch porn again. (which i did)
So now im facing the dilemma, should i give in to my urges and watch porn and fap, at the cost of making my gf feel even more miserable and bad about herself
Or should i not fap for an increased libido that i will not be abled to express?
(im sort of thinking "why do no porn/fap if ive lost my reason i did it for..?)
That's what I've found to be an issue.
I do nofap for about a week, reach breaking point and relapse like a motherfucker. I'll end up fapping four times in one day and undo ALL the work I did in the week.
dunno mate, you could suggest something like open relationship or time out.
Thing is, pornography makes you addicted, and if you were addicted to it before i definitly wouldnt do it again
Not really. 90% of the effect of no "fap" comes from not watching porn. It is the over stimulation of sexual imput (images and videos) that caused the "problem".
Also when your on no fap it is only a matter of time (for me it usually was ~2 weeks) before you start getting wet dreams several times a week. So wether you have a girlfiend or not, youll still ejaculate and the thing that really matter is wether you are watching porn or not
>So now im facing the dilemma, should i give in to my urges and watch porn and fap, at the cost of making my gf feel even more miserable and bad about herself
why in the fuck would you feel the need to tell your girlfriend every time you fap
anyway its her fault you have to anyway so if she feels bad she deserves it and maybe she will change
>few days in, instead of regular porn like fucking women it's shit like gay sissy hardcore BDSM slavery
>buy nailpolish and panties and shit
>stop working out
And that's why I don't do it
>90% of the effect of no "fap" comes from not watching porn. It is the over stimulation of sexual imput (images and videos) that caused the "problem".
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> it is only a matter of time (for me it usually was ~2 weeks) before you start getting wet dreams several times a week.
Why do you presume this isn't healthier than fapping?
Just fap in secret from your gf, but you really don't need porn. Also, talk to your gf, tell HER the things you tell anonymously on an anime imageboard. This is how relationships work friend.
NoPorn seems easier, you can fap using your imagination just after a few days of nofap+noporn. What I've found is that you probably shouldn't fap before night, even with noporn. You can get the sensations to fap again the same day, and it usually ends up being accompanied by porn.
wtf i have a similar experience. I was on a holiday for 1 week (in which i didnt fap or watched porn) and when i came back, i stumbled on a sissy hypno video. Since that very moment wanting to be a girl and suck cock has been my main fucking fettish for atleast 2 months. I am 27 years old and ive never had any gay cravings whatsoever. (i did occasionally fap to traps but dont we all..) And ever since that 1 fucking week of no fap i suddenly want to get swallow cum out of big cocks
>tell HER the things you tell anonymously on an anime imageboard. This is how relationships work friend.
I do that actually. Fapping without porn my be the solution to my issue though, thx for that tip
I notice I do have more energy when I don't faop. It's a lot easier to get up in the morning as well but I always tend to hold more a lot more water when the sperm bank is built up for some reason. Anybody know why this is?
That is almost exactly what your body says post-ejaculation.
>Mission Success, let's chill the fuck out for the rest of the day
If you fap regularly the message becomes something like
>No purpose to do anything anymore, biological imperatives are met, let's power down and do fucking nothing
This, when my bitch was on the pill I would come in her everyday and after that did not want to do anything but laze around. That's why she left me I figured, I just came in her day and night and didn't want to go out, just sit around eat and laze.
>mfw when I did the same thing a year ago
Took pictures and everything, even uploaded some. But god damn my legs looked good. Protip though, just stop watching porn completely. You'll return to normal level of disgust for that stuff in less than a month.
I'm not very good either
Shopped for obvious reasons
I did stop watching porn, that's the thing.
There are people here right now that think aggression and assertiveness in any quantity are bad.
Have fun getting women to respect and admire you by being a soft-edged pushover.
Some people here think nofap/porn has no benefits, and they're probably right as long as the person in question doesn't masturbate self destructively.
However, I think it's a fair to make this comparison: Imagine a normal person who drinks alcohol socially once or twice a week wondering why should he quit drinking. He enjoys drinking and it's not interfering with his other pursuits and goals in life. Well, he shouldn't quit, he's not addicted, he enjoys it, good for him. Not everyone gets addicted to alcohol, but some people do, and quitting drinking is probably the best thing an alcoholic can do for himself.
I've been on nofap/porn for 21 days now. My wake up call was when I realized I could not get hard without sitting in my computer chair looking at porn. Pretty much all the benefits have already been mentioned in the thread so I won't list them. I simply feel a lot better in general and I have a lot more time on my hands.
It's like this, pretty simply:
1-3 faps per week: no effect from nofap
4-7 faps per week: will notice some positive effects from nofap
7+ faps per week: IN DEFINITE NEED OF NOFAP, WILL TRANSFORM LIFE
But of course, the people who don't fap regularly are already doing well and won't receive benefits. They're the people who say NoFap doesn't work and will troll everyone into not doing it. Obviously they don't want thousands of losers suddenly becoming competition so they dissuade you of it's help.
Don't be fooled /fit/. You must make it.
exactly the same as me bro. it got to the point where i was just compulsively beating it 3-4 times per day even though i wasnt particularly horny, to the point where im sure its deadened the nerves and conditioned me to only get an erection under the most extreme physical stimulation. starting nofap/noporn and hoping my libido and erections come back
>I've been on nofap/porn for 21 days now. My wake up call was when I realized I could not get hard without sitting in my computer chair looking at porn. Pretty much all the benefits have already been mentioned in the thread so I won't list them. I simply feel a lot better in general and I have a lot more time on my hands.
But can you get hard without sitting on your computer chair?
>tfw i'm in the 7+ range
i'm on day two. my wake up call was going completely soft when i was about to initiate sex with a girl. and then realizing that when i masterbated, i was never truly HARD, just mostly.
>don't fap for 5 days
>get home, start to fuck wife
>lasted longer than I expected
>I pull my dick out to cum
>It felt like my soul left my body
>so much cum
>literally felt like I was pissing on her
>she has to use half a box of tissues to get it off her stomach
Now I'm back to fapping everyday. If feels good to have that first bust, but it's like an oreo. You won't be able to stop once you start.
>Tfw sex addict
If I go a few days without fucking my girlfriend or masturbating, I get thrown into this downward spiral of apathy and depression. I hate my friends, my family, and my classes/job. I'm on day 4 of nosex/fap this week and I already hate myself.
>Day 5 of nofap
>It's gotten to the point where my lust has pretty much changed to bloodlust
>I see people walking on my campus and all I can think about is how to kill them, both male and female.
>Imagine having sex with a woman but everytime I do, I have more of an urge to bite into her neck as hard as I can and rub my face in her blood while laughing.
>Day 6 of nofap
>Just woke up an hour ago
>Think about having sex with girls for an hour straight.
>Get on/fit/ and see this thread
I'm hoping today will be ok.
>Be on NoFap + NoPorn for a few weeks
>Begin having crazy sexual dreams, awesome shit like getting sucked off by two girls or fucking supermodels
>One night have an overtly gay dream
>Wake up and feel sick to my stomach
>Don't touch my dick or think anything sexual for a few days
>Bust a nut to lesbian porn
>day 6 of nofap
>not actually doing nofap, I'm just going to amsterdam so I need to preserve my essence
>going fucking nuts
>looking at porn and edging like crazy
>will inevitably fuck a hooker in the red light district
>If feels good to have that first bust, but it's like an oreo. You won't be able to stop once you start.
this. if I stop fapping for a week or so, once I start again I'm relentless for a few days
Oh, I didn't plan to go a whole month without fapping. Just want to do the whole "testostrone rise in a week" thing although I have cut porn out completely with the exception of erotic stories.
If you reach a month you literally reach Super Saiyain Ancient Ascetic Enlightened Fearless Mode. Go for the month bro!
Sorry, I don't want to turn into pic related
Low test DYEL beta detected.
Bitches be trippin', some girls feel uncomfortable with someone who is aggressive/assertive. People have fucking issues for a variety of reasons.
Only airheads and sluts are looking for a turbomachismo gym rat goofball.
Only girls with daddy issues are looking to be "put in their place" outside of the bedroom.
Enjoy ur nogainz, needing a stool to get a cup from the top of a cabinet, and having a donger that is put to shame by an american hotdog
tl;dr: you don't know shit about shit, bud
From personal experience, and what ive heard of other people. 100% of girls likes to be dominated at least somewhat. Even the ones that say they dont start moaning a little bit loader when you hold their amrs above their head, grab her hips abit firmer etc.
There is also neurological research (where they measure brain activity) that showed that pretty much 100% of women get aroused by the thought of being raped.
ps. that research also showed the ~80% of men were aroused by pics of nude little children in a sexual context (i found this an interesting side fact)
I'd just like to know, where did anybody say assertiveness up to being a turbomachismo faggot is necessary? When did anybody say overdo it? Because I don't think anybody fucking did.
The issue is that beta's are against aggression or assertiveness AT ALL. And that is a ridiculously redundant, weak, inane and OMEGA mindset.
There are many fruits of life that you won't be able to reach unless you're assertive. I'm not saying become a fucking militant hyperactive dictator, but you need to be able to identify with your aggressive side. Most of you faggots think that's wrong in any quantity. It's probably the NEETs of you who think that way, because anybody living in the real world would know better.
I am in a long distance relationship with a girl 4000 miles away. I've had two sex offers the last month, I turned them down even though I effectively get no sex. The chances of us getting together is only possible on a visiting scale at the moment, both in uni/college, and it's expensive, so a couple of times a year tops.
What do I do? There was a girl who wanted it, and I said no and went home to an empty bed. It confuses my sexuality.
Lol at the faggots screaming placebo. Dont knock it til you try it.
Also, it's No Stroke September
It's all placebo as long as you aren't wanking every single day without fail, or more.
Increased confidence and such is likely due to repressed guilt because we're taught to feel bad about looking at porn; same goes for decreased confidence.
It's okay to have a wank every so often, and you should if you aren't getting any as it helps maintain fertility.
Size of testes is a go-to measure of how well your body is maintaining endogenous testosterone. So if your gonads are tiny, stop wanking so much. Unless you're on roids, then it doesn't even fucking matter since you're a fraud either way.
>because we're taught to feel bad about looking at porn; same goes for decreased confidence.
lol, in what primitive religious shit country do you live where people think its a bad thing to watch porn (no fap fedoras aside obviously)
Idiots and morons that are criticizing about no fap.
Let me lay this down for you.
The purpose of no fap is to use that pent up sexually frustrated energy to go get laid.
If you are doing it for any other reason you are doing it wrong.
>If you are doing it for any other reason you are doing it wrong.
I wouldnt say that too quickly. i have a gf and i do normalyl watch porn. I then decided to stop watching porn (and fap to porn) and after a week my dick was 16cm instead of 15 and it was rock fucking hard. Sex felt better for both me and my gf and our sex life literally got alot better.
No Fap has never done anything for me other than making me ridiculously horny. I'm ok for 5-7 days, but anything more than that and my mind goes insane.
>mfw the morning after I hooked up with a chubby girl this past weekend
I'd rather fap 2-3 times a week and have no regrets.
I just went 12 days without fapping. I did 90 days so it's actually relatively easy. Haven't watched porn since around February. My sex drive is still pretty low though.
>any natty ways to increase sex drive?
dude, im >>28494289
i literally flatline every time i start nofap. I didn't get super horny until about day 55, which is the day that nofap caused me to lose my virginity.
Id rather be horny right out of the gate, to be completely honest
Of me or the girl?
I didn't take any pics of her, but for reference, she was about as fat as this chick.
It's a mixed bag. Being horny most of the time when I'm not fapping almost forces me to go find a girl when I'm out at a bar or club, which could be a good or bad thing.
As someone who doesn't watch porn, anyone care to describe the way they developed a porn problem? Like, how many years of 'regular' porn does it take before you eventually escalate to the weird shit in order to get off?
I didn't read the thread but I'm about 2 years into nofap. Here's the deal--not cumming isn't what's helping you, it's that by not masturbating you inadvertently stop watching porn. Not watching porn is what cures your social anxiety ect. When I first started this I literally wouldn't cum even when fucking my girlfriend. I've had 5 orgasms in the past 4 days (all with my girlfriend, still don't wank it) and still feel all the "superpowers" I felt when I first started this. Porn is your enemy, it's what makes you a socially awkward weirdo.
all the chicks are like that.
at first omg the sex is sooo good fuck me like a rabbit you boss boy
and than just finish already ... its not you its me.. and so on
>it is girls nature to loose interest in frequent partner
especially if you spend a lot of time together everyday and if she feels you wont "cheat"
but if you realy fuck other women she will start worship your dick I promiss you... its just that we - men - think women want a true boy... they dont they want wanted boy they want value for their vaginas... not some junk that no one else wants...
>don't fap for a few days
>start thinking of the many mysteries of the universe
>no longer care about the universe
>3 days into no fap september
>start wondering about the universe's mysteries
I'm never fapping again so I can unlock the mysteries of the universe. Let's do this.
I understood it mostly. It just took some time that's all.
brain desensitization due to overstimulation of dopamine receptors.
>don´t you think its funny how you were able to get off to a pair of tits from a magazine when you were younger but now you need some hardcore deep penetration action/etc to barely get off???
and that is that.
>I had a tranny phase for like 3 months a while ago
This post made me realize I've had an ongoing tranny phase for 3 or 4 years now. Which makes it a full-on fetish now practically.
Can nofap save me?
Any citations for that?
Last I read was Your Brain On Porn.com, which is written entirely by 1 broscientist who postulates on evidence from a Chinese test group from years back. Not exactly compelling.
All right /fit/
I haven't fapped since around the 25th of July, I've been training every day without skipping and I feel good all round and am liking my progress in getting fit so far.
How much fapping is okay though? I can probably keep it up for months since I've improved my strength of will, but I still feel the urge every now and then and I wonder how much is okay and harmless.
Is it better to be completely no-fap or is once a week harmless?
What's weird shit?
I can't stand women getting truly hurt or anything but somewhat regular BDSM is cool and that's about as kinky as I get and I've had this habit 3 years now after watching "regular" porn actively for about 3 years before that.
But you only get what you're describing if you're got a really high sex drive; so you fap a lot but of course at some point you're so saturated by a certain topic you want a new one.
That's also why sluts are for example such bad relationship material; they're so saturated with sex they get bored quickly of "regular" sex.
If you fap one time a day or less you won't really develop a need for strange stuff; unless you want it.
Secretly some of the fags on 4chan want it even though they claim they don't and they also know that saturation causes the problem what I've described before but they willingly don't stop oversaturating themselves.
Wrong. Nofap's purpose is to channel that pent up sexual energy into nobler pursuits. This can include getting laid, but that's only a small part of it.
If you're changing your life just to stick it in a grill, that's fine too, but you don't win at life just by getting a gf or having a few one night stands.
All right so, I am doing nofap now for 5+ weeks successfully.
Getting laid is not on my current priorities, I am working on getting in shape and I've been wondering if there are physical advantages of nofap.
I think I started it because a friend that comes here often said that a man who frequently faps will exhaust his energy and vigour much faster and feel old at the age of 40
Nofap is all broscience right now but there's plenty of anecdotal evidence to show that when you arn't tricking your brain into releasing dopamine by thinking you have a limitless harem you get more shit done and feel better about being away from your computer.
I can give you this:
>TL;DR: desensitization explained.
just a quick search.
So is there really any reason why I shouldn't continue with nofap? I have read on dopamine addiction and the whole mess porn does with your brain so I know to stay away from that
[spoiler]but what about fapping to text and not video?[/spoiler]
Is nofap better than once a week?
Ah, it sounded judgemental but 'weird shit' is how some people have phrased what they're watching in earlier comments. You're right though, it's subjective I suppose.
That's why I was wondering. How much is it people responding with shame/guilt over a fetish vs people who are wanking addicts who have to keep digging more and more for new wank material until they're watching something outside their 'normal' sexuality. How many people need to maybe talk to their partner about their fetish rather than thinking they can suppress it by abstinence.
just to clarify, porn/fapping does NOT damage your brain. just makes it harder to get of to what´s really in your reach.
I´m trying to say that like anything in life, if you abuse it, (alcohol, drugs, videogames...etc) its bad.
meaning: you can have a normal healthy life watching porn and masturbating if you don´t go overboard with it:
>Porn doesn´t damage brain
however this doesn´t mean it won´t fuck you up the same way MMORPG addiction would. by consumming time of your life you could spend on better things to do.
remember this studies take a medical empirical testing point of view. and if the subject has "normal" brain functions, then it means "it does not produce brain damage". (medicine =/= psychology)
First study makes no mention of masturbation, but does make a reasonable argument against dopamine supplementation, and not taking Class A drugs (cocaine, amphetamines).
It's really grasping at straws to say beating off to porn online is degrading your dopamine sensitivity in the same way as a few sessions of coke.
The second source makes a good case explaining the functions of dopamine sensitivity in regards to visual stimuli and chronic masturbation, but has no citations to support claims, and is written by a self-confessed sex-addict. This brings me to question the author's credibility, and the quality of evidence presented in his article.
It's one thing to question the evidence but an entirely different thing to supplant it. This is all frontier science but it stands to reason that chronic desensitization can be caused by jacking off to porn.
Only compelling evidence I can find on short notice, and while I similarly question the credibility of the site's author, this article supports what Bro-El says here:
The problem isn't porn, it's the addiction that people create, and over-reliance. I see a lot of people doing noFap because they had some short-comings (lol puns) in physical relations with grills, so they think it must be the porn they look at.
I see people do NoPron because they lie awake at 1am and can't have a good hearty wank to get them to sleep because they have no porn to look at - which is closer to the problem.
I know correlation does not imply causation. but consider the social bias that comes along with taking this type of studies on a time were porn dominates the internet.
maybe it doesn´t affect older people that made their teen years without one-click away porn of ALL kinds, but there are several reports about younger people having ED.
what else has changed from 1970´s until now?
what are the odds for that factor not being internet porn related?
>The problem isn't porn, it's the addiction that people create, and o...
and that is EXACTLY my point!
you can have a videogame addiction and no medical study will ever prove that it will damage your brain... but it´s a matter of common sense to see why it will fuck up with your life.
Eh. If I suppress desire to fap a few days, my libido actually disappears. Then I start worrying about it, have a good rock hard fap and next thing I know I want to fap regularly again.
I'd rather fap and know it works, than worry about going impotent without noticing it.
i think you have a limited reserve of energy related to youth, vigor. Every time you fap you lose very small part so you cant feel its effects immediatly, but chronic fappers allready have used up their reserves so stopping gives instant relief .
I've heard a similar thing about this
How long do you think a chronic fapper needs to be nofap in order to recover and be back to normal?
>7+ faps per week
shit nigga i do this many per day.
back when i was working in a real job i fapped once ever 2 days or something because i was too tired after work or didn't want to waste time, but now i just get bored and look for porn.
i started replaying heroes 3 campaigns lately and now i fap noticeably less
you have taken the first steps on the path to true knowledge, my friend
soon enough you won't be bound to this mortal plane
This is what I've heard too.
Personal experience - I feel much better after 30 days and the urge is greatly reduced after 10 days, and again after 30. After about 60 days I rarely think about it, mind is clear and focused and all the other mombroscience.
I've never noticed an affect on exercise performance or even sleep (except initially as I go through withdrawals).
Thanks for the info, one last question before I go to sleep:
How will I know I'm healthy, recovered and at my 100% after enough time nofapping? I had been fapping 7 times a week on average until I went on this spiritual journey so I'd like to know what to look for in particular.
>If you aren't just saying "no" to that,you have been gay all along.
Yeah I've noticed that I can fap to trannies all day long but actual gay porn does nothing for me. That gives me some piece of mind, but not much.
I think it's mostly just seeing boobs, dicks, and holes all together that set my brain on fire. I can still get really turned on by straight porn but for some reason most any kind of tranny porn gets me going much faster than lesbian porn or solo girls for instance.
Plot Twist: Seeing dicks turns everybody on. We just got culturally indoctrined to be ashamed of that. That's proven fact. That's also why people love trannies. It takes the shame away.
Heck dolphins fuck everything in sight.. male, female, goldfish, whatever. Ancient greeks fucked males only. Although while saying this i myself am not able to fap to gay porn, bc it makes me feel bad.
yeah it is. It's called positive conditioning. You slowly condition your brain to be happy when seeing dicks. There are even dominatrix who condition their sissies to full gay, while they were straight when they took this route.
Don't know about you guys, but me it's mostly the no-porn part. When not beeing bombarded by tits all day you get super sensitive to any kind of visual of mental stimulation. On NoPorn my fantasy about stuff i'd like to try comes back.. and the urge to have sex is like huge. I always try to only fap when i feel like it. Not when i'm bored or whatever.
tl;dr: NoPorn is far more important than nofap. Mostly you will want to start with both and continue the route with noporn and fap when your brain is in hyperactive fantasy mode.
Didn't read the thread but I think you guy should see this
That's the reason I think of going no porn
>When not beeing bombarded by tits all day you get super sensitive to any kind of visual of mental stimulation. On NoPorn my fantasy about stuff i'd like to try comes back.
I watch porn all the time and still can get stimulated by seeing ass/tits irl -- and I still have fantasies.
Start nofap Monday. Tuesday start to fap.
>no anon you are stronger than this
Stop and watch boner die. This repeats six more times. Balls start to feel heavy. Then start burning. Curl up in fetal position cause it hurts so much.
>mfw blue balled myself
Still good on nofap though...
I think to successfully complete nofap, I'm going to have to stop coming here. all these high test threads and /b/'s webm porn threads get to me. or I just have to willpower my way through and only read the fitness related threads
If I did nofap 5 years ago I might still be with my first girlfriend. I had no desire to be physically intimate with her because I could never get off with her. Looking back it was deathgrip syndrome + low libido from daily fapping out of habit/boredom. But for years afterward I went around saying sex was overrated and no girl can please you as much as your own hand.
As long as she is dedicated to fixing her feelings towards sex it is okay. You were probably average before you stopped watching porn and she may have dealt with it fine. Just make sure you communicate well and make her realise putting everything down to "libido" is complacent and unfair.
No fap is just about porn and habitual masturbation. For me it is often directly related to procrastination. Abstention is often a large part of doing it but so is choosing when to release. Ideally masturbation should be mentally and physically close to intimacy. Some people are able to incorporate porn into their imagination and not mess their head up when it comes to sex. I think issues occur when you attempt to separate the two in life.
>From personal experience, and what ive heard of other people. 100% of girls likes to be dominated at least somewhat.
I remember verbally abusing this girl on my rowing team (it was even funnier because she was the team captain), and spanking her in public. Weirdest shit was she would always call me daddy in this cutesy voice whenever we banged but it was hot as fuck
>100% of women get aroused by the thought of being raped
Don't even doubt that at all
anyone know of any ancient books on sex/masturbation wisdom or on managing sexual energy?
Surely people wrote about these things back in the old days. Where is the information? Maybe it was hidden away or secret or something, but it's gotta be out there somewhere.
>Fap every 3 days, alternate with pics/imagination and porn master race.
That's retarded, why do people even suggest things like this. It's like "you're 300 pounds at 5'4", so only binge eat every 3 days"
If you don't make a commitment to cutting it out of your life completely then you're not going to last.
like you said: maybe.
the thing is, it can help some people who have a bad case of limp dick to not "use" it if they don´t feel aroused.
most people fap because of boredom rather than arousal these days.
In fact, I would like to know from young people with limp dick problem if they fap with boner on, or do they have to stroke it limp to make it hard for a while?
> When not beeing bombarded by tits all day you get super sensitive to any kind of visual of mental stimulation
I've noticed that almost anything womanly turns me on. Even too much leg has been jumbling my brain lately and I'm only on day 7 of nofap/no porn.
No porn is legit. Definitely a good idea. Im trying it myself now. The biggest thing that helped me was a post on r/pornfree http://www.reddit.com/r/pornfree/comments/1aqlg3/i_dont_look_at_porn_i_made_one_change_took_me/
Basically. You decide who you are...Describe yourself and say include "I dont look at porn".
Porn addiction is bad man. I fap and feel pretty alright after. Only dislike it when I know I didnt need to and just did it out of habit. But I never feel good after porn/
I feel like edging is necessary or having an erection in general... For some reason I feel like I am losing the blood-flow in my penis from the lack of masturbation. Am I just overthinking it? Like I want a big and health dick (Normal) AND be able to cum loads..
btw I'm going strong with a 3 week nofap at college as a freshman... (Just doesn't appeal to me/No free-time).
GUYS okay I know porn fucks up your mindset and expectations...but what about light shit like cam girls stripping or just showing their tits and shit.
No hardcore penetration...just light playful stuff. Does it have the same effect? is it in the same catagory as porn fucking up your mind?