Books that changed your life or books you think every man should read. I have the fit approved book list, need to try and find it and Ill upload it. But also looking for many more other recommendations.
American Psycho. Not only is the batshit insanity entertaining as fuck, but I think is also a reminder to not take oneself too seriously as vanity in all forms is shown in a negative light
there are serious (perhaps insurmountable) structural issues with leninism and stalinism, but communism - the absolute absence of a state, and a classless society - has literally never existed, and you won't find a single "communist" state that ever claimed to have achieved communism. So no, history has not proven that communism doesn't work.
History has shown us several deeply flawed attempts to reach communism - flawed attempts which we can learn from in an effort to built a better, less exploitative and callous world.
That's the only idea I'm married to.
This book is really insightful. It really teaches you a lot about the workings of the human mind and yourself. I almost always have positive encounters with people after reading this book.
If you want a serious recommendation of the sort of texts I read which describe my intellectual journey from not giving a fuck to full communism now:
People of the Abyss
The Enigma of Capital
Das Kapital (there's a good series of read-along lectures on youtube by David Harvey, they're a big help when approaching Kapital for the first time)
Capital in the 21st Century
State & Revolution
The War of the End of the World by Mario Vargas Llosa. Based on a true story about a wandering preacher named the Counselor who established an anarchic community based on free love and religion in a remote area of Brazil just before the turn of the 19th century. The Brazilian government had to sent 4 military expeditions against basically peasants before the settlement was crushed. One of my favorite books of all time
How to win friends and influence people.
It's like a shortcut to social cues and business tactics that everyone should know but overlook.
Decided I wanted some mind gains as well.end up making me start questioning my existence. Have a new found love for philosophy.
Tfw going thru a existental crisis.
Also: Lenin's "A Letter to American Working Men" is a short and easy read:
Gates of Fire - Steven Pressfield
The Lord of the Rings - J.R.R. Tolkien
Stranger In A Strange Land - Robert Heinlein
Flowers For Algernon - Daniel Keyes
The Way of the Peaceful Warrior - Dan Millman
Mack Bolan series - Don Pendleton
The Art of Peace - Morihei Ueshiba
The Destroyer series - Warren Murphy
Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson
>not a viable social structure
No ones done it yet. Every culture that has tried it hasn't followed the rules. So in the sense that humans are greedy little shits by nature...it's not viable. So based on human nature it's not viable...not because history showed a bunch of people who followed the shorthand version.
If /fit/ is into fiction, read the Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss. It's top tier fiction writing.
I thought of this when I read your post, think you might like it. It's a bit out there as far as feasibility all things considered, but nonetheless interesting.
so anything which hasn't happened yet, or which has failed in an experiment, is evidence that it will never work and should be given up on?
Boy i'm glad you aren't in charge of... well, anything.
Some serious academics have taken long hard looks at previous experiments and torn them to pieces - I'd recommend Janos Kornai's "The Socialist System" if you want an actually intelligent teardown of command-economy socialism, for example.
But a genuine, intellectually honest socialist or communist will be prepared to look that criticism in the face, take it on board, and ask "how can we do better?"
"it didn't work so just give up" is incredibly fucking lazy thinking. Especially when "it didn't work so give up" actually means "just let capitalism keep brutalising people forever"
Yes, that is my exact point, that humans are inherently self interested, and that prevents perfect communism from ever existing, which is a realization most people make in their late teens and it's also why communism has been the sole province of edgelords who argue with middle aged soccer mom's on Facebook and think they're leo strauss
Different person. During my existential crisis:
The Stranger - Albert Camus
>The Seventh Seal
I would have posted this one as well. Great book for dealing with a lot of negative people in today's world.
I enjoyed reading "Ride the Tiger" and got me into works by Nietzsche and René Guénon (Crisis of the Modern World is a very interesting read as well)
>actually taking communist propaganda seriously
not gonna make it
>The Paris Commune
"the First Regiment of naval infantry stormed into the cemetery. Savage fighting followed around the tombs until nightfall, when the last 150 guardsmen, many of them wounded, were surrounded; and surrendered. The captured guardsmen were taken to the wall of the cemetery, known today as the Communards' Wall, and shot."
these cowards being executed are proof that a classless society can never work
Communists are low test beta males
>muh equality of outcome
You'd steal gains if you could to improve your own flabby body, commie goblin
>not posting based Women
I've only read Women and Post Office. Both were 9/10. What's Factotum about? Is it any good?
Way of Men and A Sky Without Eagles are also some decent reads - just common sense stuff that men inherently should know.
it is about being poor and drinking and working crappy jobs. go read it now. every idealistic young person should read it in order to undrstand how cruel the world is. If I posted women not many people would understand ( you know where you are right?).
the novel he wrote about showbiz was okay. pulp was nice and easy. most of his short stories are gems.
There's one really simple trick to see if something is communist: does it have a state? Bureaucracy? Civil Service? Standing Armed forces? Police? If it do, it aint a communism. This was all laid out long before any of these states existed, so it's not exactly commies trying to shift the blame and cover their tracks.
The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham
The Millionaire Next Door by Thomas Stanley/William Danko
A Random Walk Down Wall Street by Burton Malkiel
Your Money or Your Life – Joe Dominguez
The Rational Optimist by Matt Ridley
Guide to the Good Life: The Ancient Art of Stoic Joy: by William Braxton Irvine
The Magic of Thinking Big: by David J Schwartz
Starting Strength – By Mark Rippetoe
Arnold’s Bodybuilding for Men – by Arnold
I never knew he wrote shorts. I'll check them out
> being poor and drinking and working crappy jobs
So pretty much like Women and Post Office? That description probably sounds boring to people who haven't read his books, but it excites me. Bukowski is awesome. Depressive realism coupled with humor and lucidity.
A government that works towards that is, by literal definition, a state and not communist by the definition of communism as put forward by the founders of the idea. It can be socialist, but a communist state is a contradiction in terms.
the way he writes about it is beautiful. it got turned into a movie that sucks, but the last scene is okay.
his poems are good but his short stories are where he is able to truly write about life.
if you search for factotum pdf you can read it online for free
one of my favorite poem of his
iam drunk just like bukowksi hehe
No, we're really not, because words have meanings and those meanings matter. A "communist government" or "communist state" cannot exist by definition, because the definition of communism is a stateless society - the state must (to use lenin's term) "wither away" as the need for it is eroded.
What you have before that is (to again use a commie term) the Dictatorship of the Proletariat, which is a state designed to violently crush dissent and the resistance of the bourgeoisie. This is a class state like any other, but the difference being that it's a state of the majority oppressing the minority of bourgeoisie (as opposed to the usual state, which operates the opposite way round).
Even a true proletarian dictatorship is a rare sight (the paris commune probably counted).
Cleanse your minds from the degeneracy of post-modernism, brahs.
>mfw recently bought Heart of Darkness on a book sale
Gonna read that amongst Gullivers Travels, Treasure Island and Sherlock Holmes
>a smile spread across the lower half of Rachel Jeantel's chins
>masculinity is problematic and should be ridiculed
It gave him more development as a character. Its pretty lame for a character to never have anything emotionally affect them. Its much deeper than CONAN MAD! CONAN HORNY! CONAN SMASH!
Anybody citing The Communist Manifesto is guaranteed to be 14.
Capital is another story, however. Marx truly was a one of a kind genius. Even if one does not walk away from the text a Marxist, his analysis (the surplus theory of value, and beyond) will forever change the way you see the world we live in, and what makes people tick.
Are you asking me for a cliffnotes version of Kapital? I'm fucking confused. Just go read it. You can sort of skim the parts where he goes through calculations with cotton and all that, if you just trace the general idea of what's happening. Even better, watch David Harvey's podcasts and read the book section by section. Harvey makes it easy and enjoyable.
Essential ancient literature:
>All the writings of Catullus, Martial and Callimachus
>Cataplus and Nekyomanteia
Vegetius is somewhat useful if you're interested in the physical conditioning of the Roman army; Batrachomyomachia is a good Iliad pisstake.
Actually reading Asimovs entire works starting from Caves of Steel through to Foundation and Earth is an all round (i cringe to use this term) epic experience.
Read his short story "The Last Question"
So fukken good ayyy
The Dark tower series make me want to be a Barajas like Rolland, but there's a book called son of the mob it's a pretty good book it's for teenagers honestly but it helped me understand relationships and how perception over impression is more important
Has anyone ever read "The code of the warrior"?
I was thinking about getting it, but im not sure if its worth it or not.
>Not including the presocratics and fragments of the poets
>Not including Plato and Aristotle
>No Cicero or Seneca
Pretty solid list otherwise. Loving the Cyropaedia inclusion. I would include Hesiod also.
>That moment in Thucydides' Peloponnesian War when Cleon actually puts his money where his mouth is and Thucydides isn't sure what to say.
haven't laughed that hard in a long time.
History demonstrates that modern communism does not follow the original teachings from Marx but instead follow Leninism and Stalinism. Lenin didnt follow Marx and Stalin didn't follow Lenin.
Read the picture of dorian grey
summary: aesthetics are shit
Stranger in a strange land
Philip K Dick (went through a PKD/heavy psychedelic phase with my kindle, all his works have kind of blended into one psuedo-reality in my mind, so can't pinpoint a specific work but now I feel like I'm living in a virtual reality constructed by my own mind existing in a realm outside of the simulation)
The Life of Pi* (read it when I was teen, opened up my mind to a lot of concepts that I disregarded entirely involving religion and possibilities of God, pretty good for an adolescent mind but probably not relevant to a developed thinker)
Discworld was a huge influence on me in my teenage years, and Small Gods pretty much encapsulates my views on religion.
Needless to say this was a subpar week for me.
You from the Eastern block bitch? You hail from the Iron Curtain? Because I do, and you have no fucking idea what you are talking about you armchair revolutionary
i'm going to sum up the entire book for you:
>people are self-centered
>ask people questions about themselves
>think about their motives and not just yours
if you were born with half a prefrontal cortex you already know everything in this book
48 laws of power
Art of seduction
Welcome to the modern world
Part of the post-modernism and character development. All that shit is meant to emphasize the vain encyclopedic knowledge Bateman has to help emphasize how vacuous the culture is. The fact that you couldn't stand it helps show how little tolerance real people have with such bullshit
I'm sad now...
Anyway, Yeah I'd suggest the Discworld series. I'm a wide reader and it's the only book series that has made me laugh out loud.
..Just stay away from the horrific first two books.
Is it worth reading. I have the book, got it as a gift, read like 100 pages in, and stopped, felt like reading something else and Atlas didn't really intrigue me. Should I go back and just finish it? I hear lots of mixed reviews.
I read that Rands writing and her philosophy was terrible, but her philosophy was mostly built on Aristoteles works and I thought her writing was excellent. I slept 4 hours one night because I stayed up reading it. It could do without the 60 pages monologue. Its also important to understand the writing tradition Rand comes from, in Russia you couldnt really write any system criticism in plain words, so they put it in novels instead. Thats why her heroes are so amazing and good at everything, it's not meant to be read as depicting actual, believable people. Still though, great book, and some truly actionable, life-changing observations about friendship and relationships.
>Enjoying self instert fiction written by someone who can't even follow their own ideals and doesn't understand the end result of their worldview.
If anything, the best use of atlas shrugged is as a warning regarding the hubris of valuing oneself so highly that you reduce everyone around yourself to caricatures rather than real people.
Lmao ayn rand died poor, cashing in welfare checks.
And Marx was a leech upon his family who got his maid pregnant before firing her. The woman used speed on a daily basis for ten years, it fried her brain a little. Doesn't make her arguments any worse by itself. But yeah, she had some debilitating mental problems at the end.
The Journeyer by Gary Jennings. Too lazy to find a cover pic.
Is redudant, has a lot of 90's basketball which i don't really care about, and a few passages where he reminds on how he fucked Madonna, but it inspired me to making it and getting social gains.
Lone survivor. Its crazy how strong your the human body really is. Also communism is based on false sociology, if the workers control the means of production they will just become the new ruling elite and the cycle will start over again.
Thucydides- History of the Peleponesian War
Aristotle- Nicomachean Ethics
Council of Nicea- The Bible (easy mode: Genesis, Exodus, Ecclesiastes, Job, Gospels, Acts, Romans, Epistle of James)
Erasmus- The Praise of Folly
Camus- The Stranger
Dumas- The Count of Monte Cristo
Melville- Moby Dick
White- The Once and Future King
McCarthy- Blood Meridian
Pratchett- Small Gods, Night Watch, Thief of Time
Skinner- Beyond Freedom and Dignity
Some Guy on the Internet- Book of Pook
Dubin- Rapid Interpretation of EKGs
Kuhn- Basic Physics
Pauling- General Chemistry
Mims- Getting Started in Electronics
I couldn't really think of a good introductory text to biology.
Couple of extra things to note: I assume you know linear algebra, that English is your native language, and that you understand that reading all of this takes years.
My list should also include Dostoevsky- Brothers Karamazov (Pevear + Volokhosky transl)
Vonnegut- Hocus Pocus
The Way of the Peaceful Warrior is a true story, and the old dude/mentor is an amazing coach who still coaches this day whose name is Masumoto Watanabe.
he is the current Olympic Vault coach, currently coaches high level team in a California Gym
the more you know....
by the way he will not admit that the book is about him
but the author has admitted it is.
Okonkwo was a bitch who thought that being violent and mean-spirited was the same as being "alpha", then couldn't handle the change when it came to him, and blamed others instead of owning up to the fact that he couldn't just suck it up and adapt like everyone else.
Also, Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle
He was a man of cast iron self discipline and principle. There was nothing mean-spirited about him. The only man ever despised - his father - is exactly the kind of man that everyone despises. He was idle and silly and poor and irresponsible to his family and kids and made no apologies for it. Okonkwo demonstrated contempt, but not mean-spiritedness or pettiness. Such emotions would have been beneath of his unimpeachable integrity.
Yes, because Marxism cannot be accomplished. Human nature is the reason it always turns into Leninism, Stalinism, Maonism, Kim Jung Ilism. Whatever communist dictator exists, add an ism to it. And that's real life communism, the theoretical is impossible
I don't know, reading these books haven't helped me at all. It felt like I was just rote memorizing proper social interactions rather than knowing the qualities that make for engaging social conversations. And each one changes for each situations.
>Rand comes from, in Russia
This is the biggest thing people don't understand about Rand. She has this big vision, but the history of Russian literature dictates that she can't just explain it, it needs to have a long drawn out explanation that slowly builds evidence leading up to a conclusion.
In practical terms, Rands writing is a "fictional research paper" written as a novel.
Because Rand's prose is so immensely long and thick, I might go so far as to tell people to just listen to all the audiologs from Bioshock, because that gets the point across pretty well.
I thought there was a study a while back that showed in small groups of similar race/history/creed it worked really well.
Kind of like nationalism. but when you apply it to a larger group it fall to bits because they there is no point helping someone that's not part of your culture?
If im wrong call me a faggot and tell me why plz (no pol plz)
Any how. Steppenwolfe by Herman Hesse, Thus Spoke Zarathustra, The War Against the Chtorr by David Gerrold and some book about zen philosophy. Marginally I could also say 1984 and Brave New World.
>..Just stay away from the horrific first two books.
Are they really that bad compared to the rest? I picked up The Colour of Magic a few weeks ago and enjoyed it enough to plan on getting the rest at some point.
Uhhh, that's kinda what you do. Is get help from your family when you need it.
Also, I wouldn't call marx a leech, per say, he struggled to find work in war torn economies and essentially bankrupted himself by publishing his on works/research.
Just finished the Bartimaeus Sequence, really fucking good books. Has a chaotic neutral character who's one of the best and funniest characters I've ever read.
Also Seneca: Dialogues and Letters. Even though his stuff is thousands of years old, his letters are so personal it feels like I'm going through someone's mail. Inspiring as fuck
The autobiography of Benjamin Franklin
Carnage and Culture by Victor Davis Hanson. This book is where you learn about history's badasses. My view of Cortes was forever changed. It basically shows how Western culture spread because we are sadistic assholes.