Can you improve your jawline?
how did zyzz do it? his face went from a 5/10 to a 10/10
uh yeah I mean it's pretty obvious this is what happened.
where did this idea you can 'grow' your jawline with a gum chewing routine or some shit come from. how is continuously perpetuated. I don't even understand.
probably because there are muscles around your jaw.
yeah .. no .. that's not how it works.
you don't significantly hypertrophy facial muscle, if you do then you have a diagnosable disorder that requirements management.
consider how many muscles are in your body, then consider how many of them are used regularly but never hypertrophy.
furthermore, the parts of the face that mediate attractiveness are bone and cartilage, including the jaw which is bone.
uhh yeah, again, if you CAN hypertrophy your masseter than you have a legitimate disorder which requires treatment.
do you actually think it's as simple as if it's a muscle then you can grow it? really?
i don't need to belittle you to make you look stupid, suggesting you can hypertrophy your masseter by chewing gum/clenching your jaw does more than I ever could hope to belittle you.
hey I'm 19 and growing up I wasn't doing what a normal male should be doing so my hormones probably weren't ideal.
Too many video games too many shit environmental factors that probably contributed to my now weak almost girlish face, despite the fact that I'm 19.
Of course part of this is genetics but a lot of it is environment.
Would juicing or maybe growth hormone peptides fix this?
I really hate my life because of this problem. To give you an idea, I'm 6'2.5.. with a pretty small fucking face. I am 160lb.. Auschwitz mode right? Well when I take pics shirtless I look heavier than that due to my small skull in comparison and my skinny wrists.. so it's an optical illusion. Now sure this might be cool but I fucking hate this because if I ever reach zyzz mode, I'm afraid I will look fucking RETARDED with my small face in comparison.
any tips/advice would be highly appreciated. I hate this shit so much. My overall facial bones are small. So I'm fucking screwed because I could never reach my dream body because il end up looking retarded.
im being srs
chew really tough gum you guys, for a few-several hours a day and you'll get jaw gains. even though the jaw muscles actually do grow, the point is to strengthen them so they morph the actual bones in the mandible and maxilla.
"The masseter muscle can become enlarged in patients who habitually clench or grind (with bruxism) their teeth and even in those who constantly chew gum. This masseteric hypertrophy is asymptomatic and soft; it is usually bilateral but can be unilateral"
you just have to constantly chew gum i guess.
>/fit/'s face when they learn they could have improved shit like height, jawline, voice.
>but that window was closed before they thought to look for it.
remember that when you choose your parents' nursing homes.
not sure what you are saying.. I never said that I WOULDNT benefit from that. unless you are just passively stating that. Because of course, I could benefit from a fucking bigger jaw/head/neck. I would fucking love it.
hmm really? Fuck I hope i can make my head grow somehow. God I would be so fucking happy. Il try packing on 30 pounds in the next year or two and see what happens. I will probably ride a bike or two as well
>remember that when you choose your parents' nursing homes.'
I'll also remember that I'm circumcised
My jaw has gotten A LOT wider since ive been chewing gum non stop for like two years, however i've also gone from auschwitz to aroumd 11% bf + puberty & possibley swolen from a lot of acne. 19 rn, figure when im 20-21 going into university ill drop to 8% bf and reveal super jaw
chewing gum gives me gas any way to combat this?
This is quite possibly the most retarded thing Ive read. imagining you going to town on that bottle cap like an angry beaver is making me kek
i think height is purely genetic, i ate like shit and played wow through my teen years and im 6'2. my dad is 5'9 mom 5'6
>imagining you going to town on that bottle cap like an angry beaver is making me kek
Oh god, I never thought about it like that, but now I'm laughing my ass off.
Whenever I finish chewing on them the sides of my jaw seem swollen up or something for a couple of hours, so I kind of do look like a beaver after the fact.
believe it or not this can be due to the fact that you had lack of androgens during puberty. This can make guys taller although its usually the lanky ectomorph type of tallness.
lack of androgens = take longer for plates to fuse resulting in longer skinnier bones
Yep. The dude in OP's pic has a huge long seminar about it but it basically boils to Jaw closed, tongue up. You keep your jaw forward so you dont have a mad underbite, and if you do that for a few months or years your jawline slowly gets better.
you have to get strong enough tongue, jaw and lip muscles to keep everything tight and sealed, or you could ducktape your mouth shut and wear a strap around your head to keep your jaws together
around 5.5 inches, which feels pretty damn small when your 6'2.
nah, just go for this look.
Still within average range.
If I recall correctly some dick comparison thing said that 6.3 puts about 75% of dicks below yours. I didn't do as well with girth, that was like... 55% smaller than mine, or somesuch.
A site like that should of course be taken with a grain of salt.
I have a theory to change the face... but it's technically pseudoscience.
If you look at before, during, and after pictures of men who went to war... there's a significant difference in their facial tone over the course of their experience. I think emotions have a lot to do with how our face looks. When we're stressed the areas around and above our eyes are usually tense and sometimes forms what appears to be mounds of excess skin crunched together.
Now if what I say is even remotely true.... then perhaps lifting itself can sculpt our face. Not so much of bone structure.... but perhaps a theme so to speak.
>you don't significantly hypertrophy facial muscle
Really? Because apparently you've never tried steroids.
Hey dude, it's crazy how similar our situations are. When I was 19/20 i had a really skinny face, looked really young for my age and was underweight (59kg at 6'2.5). I'm 22 now, and about 83kg and after eating right and consistently lifting my jawline and face developed significantly. It was like I went through puberty in my early 20s, I'm not saying good diet + lifting will definitely solve your problem, but I think it will help like it did for me. People regularly tell me how much better I look and it's pretty great. Good luck
>estimated to become 5'8 but became 6' because of good diet and always being active
>bilingual since childhood
>good food with lots of meat for dem jaw gains
>based genetics generally
I will remember that indeed
The change can still be made, it's slowed down alot due to less bone metabolism. Just chew more and get the right vitamins to maximize bone metabolism
im kinda the asme
i used to be fat until 14 and i think it messed up my hormones
im 20 now and look like this, i have no jawline at all and everyone mistakes me for a 12 year old
>tfw mad underbite
I'm considering surgery in the future
this is what it looks like when i deliberatly put my jaw to the front (gonna try doing that all the time, see if it helps)
Lips together, teeth together, tongue on the roof of your mouth
Also you need to do a perfect swallow like Johnny Depp in the gif. You can see his cheeks are barely moving at all.
The teeth don't have to touch. For many people there is a few mms of space between them at rest. That's where the jaw is supposed to be, not clenched together.
Tongue on roof of mouth is the way to go though. Swallowing properly too.
>Mike Mew says that your tongue should be placed on the roof of your mouth (the palate) because this allows for healthy maxilla development. People with retruded maxillas are aesthetically unappealing, and keeping your tongue at the palate can prevent your maxilla from retruding, and may even correct a retruded maxilla over time.
As much of the tongue should be on the palate as possible. Both the front and back of the tongue should touch the palate. People with small palates have difficulty doing this because palate isn't large enough for the whole tongue to rest.
To determine the correct tongue posture, Mike Mew advocates a "corny smile" (having a large smile and raising the eyebrows). If you do this, you would feel the back of the tongue raising up. This is the posture you need.
Close your teeth together as it makes it easier for the tongue to rest against the palate. Do not clench.
i was doing like pic related, so it's wrong. all the tongue on the palate looks awful tho.
How do I remove baby face? I've lost a ton of weight and I've started making gains, and my face has changed a little bit but not nearly as much as the rest of my body has.
Holy shit this may have changed my life. I've been doing the tongue thing but only with the front. Thank you anon.
Also, do people with great jaw lines always just do this naturally? This feels weird.
Worry less about what people think of your face anons.
I know I'm never gonna be the prettiest but I'm happy with myself. Be good to other anons, be a good husband. Help out in your community and try to just be a good guy.
Here, hopefully this makes you feel better about your jaws n' faces.
You're gonna make it anons. We're all gonna make it.
How do you put all the tongue on the palate? I don't have movement control on the back of my tongue, I can force the tip to touch the roof of my mouth but not the whole thing. Pls show me a diagram.
People have done it naturally through history. People used to eat a lot of though low calorie food so they would have naturally strong jaws. Nowadays our food is soft and calorie rich so we have weak jaws. Also because of the increase in allergies people are mouth breathing more and more so the problem is getting worse.
We can find a great example of this in skeletons and statues from the Romans. The plebs had very good jaws and surprisingly good teeth and the patricians had bad teeth and receding chins. This is because the patricians had access to higher calorie dense food and therefore had weaker jaws.
oh ok. You gave me a shred of hope. I am hoping to go through a dramatic change like that. I'm 19 though, so doubt theres much hope. I'm stuck with a weak facial structure. It's thin and I have a small skull. Whatever.
Whenever I am in the gym (like I was today) I'm always the one with the thinnest fucking overall facial structure. I hate it.
your chin is like the opposite of mine, i have an outie you have an innie
I have skinny bones, am 5'11, still growing - 18. My testosterone isn't low, my free testosterone is high, so is serum DHT, above reference ranges.
I've been lifting for 3 years and always had quite a bit of muscle and body hair, could grow a beard at 14, so fuck off.
Estrogen would cause thickening of the bones, but this is just more likely to happen if you have high amrotase activity during puberty, not high androgen output. Testosterone is responsible, well DHT anyway - in the bone, for lengthening it. Androgens infact help you grow taller, it's the estrogen converted from the testosterone that makes your bones thicker and prevents cartlieganeous growth by ossifying the cartliadge.
pls excus spelling, I have dyslexia. But I'm a medfag anyway.
My face still changed a bit from 19 to now. I was around that age in this pic. I noticed gaining muscle is enough to change your face a bit.
dude i have similar jaw/face size as you. i fucking hate it. Im thinking of doing roids or peptides.
dont get me wrong you dont look HORRIBLE but its a small-ish jaw nontheless.. just like mine
Not so much Hellbro in this pic but just making a doofy-ass face. This is back from uh, 2010-2011 when I found /fit/ and decided to get into shape before I got injured and broken and now I have to rebuild but ehhhh such is life.
Pardon the dumbass picture. Small bathroom, only mirror.
I have no excuse for the face, rip.
>tfw mouth breather for most of my life because parents kept cats in the house even though I'm allergic
should I sue my parents for child abuse
I feel like I'd just be a better person in general if I didn't grow up with debilitating allergies and asthma from fucking pets
Mouth breathing between 7 and 12 is the worst!
Mike Mew already treats children who are 6 years old.
You guys need to learn to love yourselves. I don't mean in some SJW acceptance bullshit but I mean, you're your own worst critic you know? 9/10 nobody is thinking all the negative shit about you that you are.
Focus on being healthy, happy and being a pretty good person. Spot for people, give new folks advice, be comfortable with who you are and all that jazz.
Faces change over the years and depending on what you're doing. Sometimes you'll look like you got a face only me mudder could love and sometimes you'll look like a little boy.
Dunno where I'm going with this but just relax and try to enjoy life.
Post a pic, do you have long flowing hair? Pouty red lips? Long luxurious eyelashes and delicate features?
No, you don't anon. Don't be like that. You are a man. Whatever you have been your legs be it big, small, average, crooked or whatever is your manhood.. and your boys.
A man is more than the sum total of his appearance. A man is someone who will better himself with knowledge and experience so he can help his fellow man. A man is someone who can love a woman and put up with some of her bullshit. A man is someone who wakes up and provides for either himself or his family. Even if that family is just your current gf and a cat.
You are a man anon. You look like a man and let nobody tell you otherwise.. least alone yourself.
I did this once the whole day and I looked like a bloated frog. Like under my chin bloated up by putting my tongue on the roof of my mouth. Never again.
Clenching my teeth gives me dat der jawline. but i dont do it becuase its bad for your teeth.
Fuck, how did it not upload the picture?
I went from hungry skelly to a fatty, shit.
Body pic is me now, still skinny fat.
shaved off my beard today after dropping some serious body fat. went from manly mountain man, to fucking fatty no chin guy. my mom gave me shit genetics all my weight goes to my neck fucking sucks.
correct swallowing technique which dosn't use the buccinator muscles, Mew explains this as well
im a health freak in the sense that I don't want to eat any chemical shit whatsoever. So what can I chew on thats also not bad for you? all gum has aspartame and other chemicals so fuck that. Bottle caps have plastic/bpa so fuck that.