>>31946352 What about your extended social circle?
I know some grills which at every party will try to strike a conversation with me and ask me for some advice or something and will later try to continue this conversation on FB. Maybe you've got the same? It is easy to confuse with friendship though but you can always try - rejection is better than regret.
>>31946276 Seriously, you guys, go read some fucking pickup artist shit. They codify how to work with women so even your autist ass can bag someone. If being a virgin bothers you so much, take real steps to fix it instead of crying about it like a helpless bitch.
>>31946619 >reading pua shit >makes sense in my mind >ok have it figured it out and then it all goes to shit when I try and say the right shit and they dont react the exact way I had planned. I'm burned out on trying man.
>>31946540 if you're depressed how do you find the motivation to work out?
I'm having major problems getting back into lifting after being so fucking depressed all the time. It really sucks. In fact, i've stopped browsing /fit/ entirely because I feel guilty about not working out and being a fat piece of shit. This is the first time I've looked at this board in months
>>31946790 It's funny because im depressed as fuck and lifting is the only thing that gives me joy at the moment. I'm an ex ham planet and seeing visual progression while hitting the weights motivates me to be the best version of myself i can be despite anything else going on
PUA is bullshit that doesn't work made for people who are desperate to get laid. They are trying to prey on you.
There is no good advice to give other than not putting girls on a pedestal, only hitting on girls who seem interested in you (otherwise you come off as a creep) and having something to talk about that you can engage people in. I talk about video games, but I do it In an engaging way.
>>31946503 Oh my god man, 20 years is nothing. I lost my virginity at 18, my friend done it at 21. Don't bother, just relax and try to TALK to more people. Don't think about sex, just TALK. Once you are comfortable with being talky and friendly you will be able to flirt.
>>31946790 >─────█▪ Honestly, I am depressed right now as well. But the only thing I can do is go to the gym, that is the one that depression has made me do honestly. I force myself to never skip in the past 3 months that I have been depressed. Everything else is shitty though. I wake up, go to work, go to gym, sleep. Repeat. I feel like if I stop the gym I would lose myself completely. On days I don't work I sleep in majority of the day, eat, gym, then sleeping pills to go right back to sleep.
>>31946790 I'm depressed and I go to the gym 6 times a week because it's the only time I don't want to kill myself. If I didn't lift I probably wouldn't be alive, I'm just too attached to my gains now to ever kill myself
>since being chubby my one goal was to lose weight and be attractive so I'm no longer >tfw no gf >finally getting closer to goal weight loss (still need muscle) >notice I'm not a disgusting blob anymore >now have to deal with getting glances from the opposite sex >haven't had them in almost two years, feels foreign and weird
Not even sure what the use is if I drop my spaghetti anyway.
I'm 10 months away from my first Level 0 spells. Could have lost it 9 months ago, was 5 minutes from exchanging cards with a cutie who honestly loved me, but I had a depressive episode and breakdown and broke up instead.
My issue is...well, I'm conflicted. See I'm actually pretty charming and ever since I started getting /fit/ about 6 months ago, lost 50 pounds, bf% went from mid-30's to mid-20's and I discovered the pure magic that is deadlifting. I have met a dozen women I know for 99% sure would have had sex with me and dozens more I had a strong inclination, but I always back off and don't pursue. I'll get performance anxiety, sure, it happens and it won't be great at first, but I can get sex from a non-hooker pretty easy with solid 6+'s. I'm 6'4", getting /fit/, 7x6 dick and have that 'big strong guy' look going on (I keep well trimmed facial hair).
I just feel like being celibate gives me time to figure my own shit out, get over this crippling anxiety and depression and start making a life and if the perfect woman comes along, great. But at the same time just liberating that part of my body and mind might inspire me to do more, but I'm fixated on once I do it it's done, I'll never be able to un-do that first vagina and will remember it til I die. I'm not religious, but I can't shake that 'first time should be special' anime trope bullshit.
But why not? I ask myself.
I'm trapped in that cycle of not wanting to make a meaningful decision so I don't feel like I'm doing anything wrong. But I'm 29, my hair is starting to fade and my face won't get any better looking.
Start picking up 19 year olds and just play around then find a good one?
Get a safe, reliable, understanding fuck buddy?
Legit try to get a qt gf? Try to mend things with perfect girl I broke up with? Hopefully she hasn't sucked her first through tenth cock in the meanwhile (all joking aside, I really did break her heart).
and? life as a man begins when you hit 30. theres a reason men get better as they get older, while women hit the wall (their looks fade). we age like wine. there will be no better time for dating/hooking up than your 30's.
im telling you straight up, there is no better time to pick up or fuck girls than your 30's. you can still date young girls, plus the 25+ ones all are desperate cause they want to settle down/get married.
it's never too late for anyone. some people are successful early, others are late bloomers. hell, im highschool I was out of shape and now im a different man. while I cant turn back the clock, that doesnt mean I cant do well today. and the best part about being a man? you dont have to date your age, you can always go younger. there is nothing stopping a 30 year old man from dating a 21 year old girl.
you cant "see" that someone is a virgin anyways. it all comes down to confidence and how you represent yourself. girls are superficial like we are, if they like what they see they will want to sleep with you: it's that simple. it doesnt matter if you've slept with 0 or 10000 people.
Its how you carry yourself. Be confident if you aren't work on it. And be honest with your intentions. A good personality out shines a good body any day. well having a decent body cant hurt but not necessary
>>31946503 >I don't have any social circle to speak of really.
This is the problem with guys on 4chan. You're sitting there going: >tfw no gf But you should be really going: >tfw no mates
Normalfags aren't getting laid because they go to clubs by themselves and do PUA tricks innately. They have friends, they go to places with their friends and have fun and they meet people and sometimes they get to fuck those people. Sometimes their friends have sisters and they fuck them. Sometimes their friends have gfs that have friends and they fuck them.
If you put the normalfag in a new city with no friends most of the time he would not get pussy until he had achieved a new circle of friends.
i don't think it would improve my outlook. being a virgin isn't really something that bothers me at all, like i said i've accepted it. honestly at this point i wouldn't feel comfortable having sex or being in any kind of relationship. i'm not even unhappy, that's why i said you should accept it.
i don't lack confidence, and i don't hate myself at all, i'm just objectively aware that i'm a loser.
i spend all my free time on my pc, except working out. i don't talk to anyone in my daily life that i don't have to as part of my routine. i don't have any friends or acquaintances online or off. i don't think you can really paint it differently, disregarding any contact i've had with the opposite sex (which is zero).
>>31947746 >tfw you try to make internet friends with people from 4chan from contact threads. >somehow, even though you like all kinds of nerd shit, you don't have any common interests. >also they have terrible conversation skills.
i wish the anti-tripfag attitude wasn't a thing. i'm not saying everyone should trip but i think if good people weren't discouraged from tripping they'd see each other around and maybe people would get some friends out of this place.
well hey, you sound a lot like me. see, before I used to be lazy and then I started working out: and now im starting to get the confidence I was lacking, when I was a flabby mess. improving myself in the gym has helped my confidence significantly, and now I have a drive: to be the best I can be, and to improve myself as much as possible.
most of my friends are pussy whipped, so I dont talk to them much. most of my interaction is either online, or with people at the gym. but that's okay, cause im a much better person today than I was one year ago when I was depressed and didnt want to do shit.
so what makes you a loser? is it the lack of a "social life"? does it matter if you talk to people online or at a club? who cares. ultimately at the end of the day if you are happy with yourself that is all that matters. and the more you improve, the more people will notice. girls never used to pay attention to me and now they do. and the only thing that changed was my appearance, and confidence.
do the things you enjoy, be confident in yourself, and you will never be a loser.
I was in a shit place when I left the army and moved to Edinburgh by myself.
No social circle, no friends, no money
I got myself on Plenty of Fish (tinder is prolly better but I've never used it) and shagged sluts. All you have to do is talk to them normally and don't out right ask for sex and they think you're gods gift, most even fucked on the first "date"
i wouldn't be able to make friends here anyway. i don't like most of the shit 4chan is into despite having used this website since 2006. i don't play videogames/watch anime/read manga/watch tv or most movies
which is why i also have no friends irl and don't really try to, i don't really have anything in common with anyone it feels like. my problem is i don't really enjoy much in life, it feels like a pointless experience and i often consider killing myself rather than working a shit job just to exist.
do what you enjoy, whether that is playing games, watching tv, or whatever. when I was depressed, I didn't want to do anything. but going to the gym changed that entirely, cause I felt much better after improving myself.
keep training and I guarantee you that you wont just look better, but you'll feel way better.
I feel shitty fit. This girl has been spending a lot of time at my place. It originally started out as just doing all nighters together. Then we started to watch gravity falls and she's been at my place almost every night and we'd just lied in my bed until 3 am just talking. I want to have sex with her, but she also has a boyfriend she's on a break with. I told her I liked her, but she apologizes for leading me on. I don't know what to believe. She says she's not really interested, but she also stays over at ungodly hours. Should I just cut off this relationship with her. I don't really want to cheat with her because "if she cheats with you, she'll cheat on you"
I hate these feels, especially since I'm a kissless virgin.
cheer up, i've felt the same if not worse: use the gym as a way to improve yourself physically, and mentally. as you get in better shape, your confidence in yourself will grow exponentially. stop beating yourself up, and just get out there and do your thing.
not everyone needs a higher purpose to aspire to. for me, im happy with focusing on improving myself. it's giving me the confidence I used to lack, and i'm happy changing myself for the better.
I dont have any real "reason" to live, it isnt like I have kids or something. but i'm just trying to enjoy every day no matter what. you dont have to do anything significant to justify living, if you do the things you enjoy and are happy, that's the only justification you need.
well my point was that i don't really enjoy doing much, and i don't feel like anything really outweighs the pointless grind of having to work 9-5 just to exist. i can't really justify my existence at all.
well you arent alone, that's how life is for everyone. we work just to survive, but it's what you do outside of a job that makes it all worthwhile. if you do the things you enjoy, when you get older you can say "you know what? I have no regrets".
>>31947881 holy fucking shit, Im in the same situation 22 yrs old, texting with a girl I met in a club. heres what happened
> out with her > talking shit > she ask me why Im so nervous with 19yr old girl > tell her Im not > things come sexual > she ask if Iam virgin > I tell her ''nope, Im over that bullshit already'' > she was like ''oh'' > tell her I didnt have sex for a year > start talking about cars
Did I fucked up bros? Does she know? I felt really awkward when she told me why Iam so nervous, especially when she pointed out Iam 3 yrs older...
>>31948205 Not that guy but it is a fucking big deal. Sex is sex, she wont know the fucking difference. Who cares. If you want to excite the bitch and fuck her good just read a sex book you fucking nerds.
>>31948205 I was thinking about it, but the problem is she is my friends classmate so I was worried about her telling him and shit going wrong, since Im 7/10 by /soc/ and 6/10 by /fit/ looking, 191 cm (6.3) tall, not balding 9/10 beard alpha looking male even I cant behave as good as I look, basicall I can hold a conversation, make her smile until things go sexual.
>>31948185 Well, one day, Anon, you'll lose your virginity. Sometime after that, you'll also realize that it's not something you lose overnight, but let's not get into that now. A few years after that, hopefully, you will have had quite a lot of sexual experiences, preferably with a qt3.14 gf of yours whom you'll stay with later on because you love eachother, and then, one day, you'll think back on that sentence, and you'll realize how horrible your mindset was. Pic related, it will be >yfw
In any case, just chill the fuck out and don't worry about fucking/getting sloots, if you do, you'll just become one of them. Try to find a qt3.14 sweetheart to love and hold and cherish and the world will become a more beautiful place for you.
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