On Monday morning at 7:05am I ingested a scoop of pure caffeine powder thinking it was pretty workout. Total accident, carelessness on my part. It was 11,000-12,000mg of caffeine I consumed. Not really sure why I'm not dead. I spent 30 hours in ER/ICU rooms before being discharged. Still tweaking out. Can't focus. My jaw hurts like a motherfucker. Exhausted and sleepy and alert and restless all at the same time right now.
I didn't have the mental capacity to feel fear, all I could comprehend was pain. The first time I could understand my surroundings it was like 4:00-4:30 am on Tuesday.
Pic related, I guess I took it but I don't remember taking it. Monday is just fragments of shaking, slipping in and out of consciousness and knowing only pain not even fear
Was 102 kilo, but now I'm 96.5 kilo
22 years old
18-20% body fat
1.5 plate ohp for reps
I don't bench but I did 2 plate at some point for reps
2.5 plate squat for reps
4 plate deadlift for reps
Although I predict they will go down by the time I go back
Ask questions, shitpost away, I just feel like talking to whoever will listen
Lying in bed atm
There is no antidote to caffeine apparently, and since it was powder form it activated within minutes
I was already driving down the road and it felt like I was hit by a truck that lit my entire brain on fire
Someone behind me was honking and I remember not giving a fuck, using all my focus to turn around and go home and call an ambulance
My heart rate was 200+ after about an hour or two I think, making it so it wasn't fully pumping my blood, causing me to slip in and out of consciousness for an amount of time I couldn't understand
people like you get shit banned. I remember when you could buy ephedrine based ECA stacks right across the counter at any store. Then your kind fucked it up for the rest of us.
I don't wish you ill at the same time I don't feel sorry for you either
on laptop now to make posting easier
my dad also lifts and bought it in bulk to make his own preworkout
i wasn't aware of what it was
not really. it wasn't an accident out of my control or anything, just carelessness, so i'm not all "oh man better live every day to the fullest"
this could change, not sure about lasting effects on my psyche
i put a 20-22gram scoop of whatever it was into some water and drank it
that's what i keep telling myself
i felt it within minutes and it was excruciating
nothing to puke out, the last time i had anything to eat was the previous night at 10:35pm
could be a number of things
going to guess poor flexibility, doing deadlifts before squats on the same day making me tired
i almost became a wealthy instrument
yeah i want to lift again asap
every muscle in my body feels like it has DOMS
i'm told i was in convulsing violent seizures for hours straight
i've enter a heightened state of "i don't give a fuck" mode
i've also been talking to everyone i see without a filter
understandable, i was careless and i know that
i think if i had even a little bit more i'd be gone
it would be extremely painful
i'm actually legitimately scared i could have erectile dysfunction
but it could just be a lack of sex drive, and can't focus on anything long enough to get hard
i'm told just violent seizures, screaming/babbling noises, shaking, passing out constantly
when some doctor was discharging me from the hospital at the end, he had called poison control and asked "i'm about to discharge the patient who consumed 11grams of caffeine. any advice for him?" then silence for a bit and a voice squeaked "he's alive?"
i recognized a male nurse, who gave me an EKG when i first arrived, as i was leaving
imagine that shit
having a shift, seeing something crazy as fuck, and then seeing them just walk away during your next shift
last night at 5:30 i ate half an ice cream sandwich, then had the impulse to throw the other half out the back door into my back yard
felt guilty for wasting it
>two days ago a fag has a stroke while squatting
>yesterday a bitch dies from taking 8 DNP tablets
>today a fag almost died from ingesting too much pure caffeine
what's next, tomorrow Elliot Rodger and Hugh resurrect and go on a creatine-induced killing spree?
i'll keep stim dick in mind/research it, never heard about that
the previous time i had any respectable amount of caffeine was like 3-4 weeks prior and it was like 200mg each morning
Good god man I'm glad your ok. Consider some combination of modern medicine and your fitness was capable of filtering a lethal amount of caffeine without permanently crippling you.
You were probably an invaluable learning tool for the medical field too. Think of all they have learned about this rare occurrence from you.
A cup of coffee is like 100 mg, so you would need 120 cups to get the amount OP consumed. I don't see this happening.
However, you can consume enough coffee in a short enough time to get palpitations. My mother experienced this in college when she was regularly consuming 5 pots of coffee daily. Her heart rate was irregular and sitting around 120 bpm one day, so she went to the hospital to get checked out.
Our progress in science and medicine just cockblocked the natural selection. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony.
As someone who has a kilo of pure caffeine powder sitting on their desk and who uses it regularly
This has to be a lie
How absolutely foul tasting the pure powder is can't be described. You would have realized you were drinking poison the second the drink you mixed touched your lips, especially if you used a fucking 20g scoop of it
An 8oz filter or a single shot of espresso has between 40-50mg of caffeine. You can't od on brewed coffee, you'll drown or piss it out before absorbing enough caffeine into your blood.
i thought it was my old pre-workout i used to take
never saw that/heard the story
probably black out the first time after 2-3 hours and entered intense seizures
in the first 15 minutes i went back home, called and got into an ambulance, arrived at the hospital by the end of the first hour of ingestion
that's what i've been comparing this too
except it's like 5 times as bad
and not as funny
yeah. i think this is the same as drinking 150 red bulls at the same time
dad i'm not sure, haven't talked to him much since i got back. he's just back to work and kind of just accepts it happened, it's over, outlook seems fine. we hugged though, for the third time in my entire memory
mom keeps smiling and cracking jokes and just being cheerful
friends can barely comprehend the situation i was in, but are supportive
lifting buddy basically said "well shit happens, don't do it again you fool"
doctors and nurses were just dumbfounded and shocked as hell
as for feeling like a superhuman, maybe a little, but i feel more like "wow that was pretty dumb"
also i can't look into a mirror without laughing hysterically
Apparently the lethal dose for caffeine is around 150 mg per kilogram. You were on the precipice of that by ingested 107 to 117mg per kilo within minutes.
I'm also guessing 150mg per kg might be a high estimate since other sources say can take as little as 1 gram to kill a person.
You are one lucky nigger, you better offer some sacrifice to the gainz gods for sparing your life.
>mfw I would have died because whenever I feel sick the first thing I do is just lay down and wait till it passes
>mfw I would have never called the ambulance before blacking out
yeah i'm actually interested to see if any doctors want to approach me and use my case in any studies or something
thinking of going back to the hospital and asking if any students/doctors are interested in talking to me
again i just want to talk to anyone that wants to listen
laughed really hard at "vadge badge"
it did taste bad, but i've been consuming unflavoured whey protein for 6+ months prior to this that, mixed only with water, so i assumed this was also just something that was supposed to taste like complete shit as well
again, it was some weird caffeine/supplement mix my dad made and i was careless and didn't read it
does that mean i would just be straight up dead if i consumed 954mg more?
>he gets sick
Fuck, I haven't been sick since I was a kid. Whilst pretty good to never have your liftan interrupted it sucks when you are literally the only one at your workplace not being home on sickleave.
17-20g LD50. Theres people who have taken more than 30g and are alive.
While true almost always, this particular situation sucks.
Everyone has the flu. Except me. I'm doing the work of 4 people alone, working 16 hours/day for the last week. This day one of my coworkers came back so got it down to 13, so I got a short workout+/fit/ shitposting back into my schedule.
But yes, feels good.
OP - medfag here. can you tell me how they treated you? i'm assuming some beta-blocker, or diazepines? please tell what meds you were given. you're lucky to be alive, but not sure how you could be so stupid as to consume a powder which you hadn't identified.
Dunno bout that story, but the general consensus is, shit like squatting or bearing down, as in shittin, or lifting, increase the immediate risk of death- for people already on their way out. As in, if you were about to have a heart attack in the next month or two anyway, thanks to your shit life habits and/or genetics, squatting 400 punds ATG might just send you on your way a bit sooner.
So fear not death during getting swole. If you do die, it just means it was meant to be anyway, and quite soon. But getting swole will make your body more resilient to disease in the first place, so less likely to kark out. Its a win-win.
>The LD50 of caffeine in humans is dependent on individual sensitivity, but is estimated to be 150 to 200 milligrams per kilogram of body mass (75-100 cups of coffee for a 70 kilogram adult).
>OP's LD50 is between 15300 and 20400
I hope you realize just how fucking lucky you are mate.
>11g pure caffeine
>110 cups of coffee
>16,5 fucking liters of god damn coffee
How on earth are you still alive OP
Did the same thing once with pure caffeine powder. It was me being a complete fucking idiot though. Used micro scale and just wasn't paying attention to decimal points and ended up taking about 4000mg. Not quite as high as op but didn't go to the hospital, just drank a fuck ton of water, walked and walked and walked to sweat out and threw up a lot
You have never made a mistake? Dont be a tool. Statistically these things will happen, which is why no company will stand behind it, which is why you go through black market and simplu take full responsibility for your own liklihood of making a simple but dangerous mistake.
Feel better op. Dont fuck up again.
The thought of something like this terrifies me, I have like 10 grams of Yohimbine powder at home. Fortunately it has a very distinct feel and taste so I'd realize what was happening before I massively overdosed.
>I was already driving down the road
You fucking retard.
Why would you even think about driving in that situation.
Feel free to kill yourself anytime you want, but dont risk killing random people because you're a fucking idiot.
I've had 3 ashtma attacks in my life where I just slept them off. Dumbest shit in the world but I just don't want to be that fucking guy that goes to the doctor every time some small shit happens
America does. It's like $800.
That's why it is within your rights to refuse it and take a cab at your own risk. It wouldn't cost so much if everyone paid their share, but hospitals only get paid about 10% of what they're owed because so many people come in and can't pay.
Well, $750 is the base cost and every mile costs something like $8. So yeah about $800. Sometimes a lot more.
It depends on your insurance though, if you have a decent insurance plan they will cover ambulance costs because they realize that it's better than their clients trying to drive themselves and getting in to a huge wreck with even more medical costs.
>teaching some edgy anti-american on the internet how first world is defined is too pro-american
But if you wanted to change the definition, America is still in the top 10.
bro you lost 6 kilos in a day..this is a neat cutting method
>what is moving the goalposts
But to humor your assertion, you're saying we should use a measurement that declares Greece (the aforementioned sick man of Europe [read: shithole]) as one of the most successful countries in the world?
If you reverse the per capita income, America is in the bottom ten. Maybe we should use that backwards measurement to further support your opinion?
America is shitty in many, many respects, but trying to insult America on the basis of wealth accumulation (which was what the original post did) is a pretty retarded way to go. Just do yourself a favor and give up already.
I've seen people freaking out and all types of shit, you name it. By the far the most fucked up substance I've ever seen a dude OD on was caffeine. Guy didn't even take that much, was just super sensitive to it. Got him in the ambulance and he look like Golem trying to jack off with after he snorted some coke and got his hands cut off. Once get him tied down his HR was 320 the whole way to hospital.
Caffeine. Not even once
I had an idiot roommate once (who was also alcoholic) that broke his vape and started dabbing the juice under his tongue.
He got really shifty one week and started accusing people of tampering with his food
How did you ingest that? I've sometimes used 4dosa extra strong snus at a time to get a kick when smaller doses started to not affect but it's not like all of that shit came off into me.
Having a really hard time believing OPs story. Caffeine is EXTREMELY bitter in its raw state.
Buy a small pouch of caffeine powder and attempt to drink it in 8fl oz of water.
>It's going to be absolutely disgusting
yeah my peak heart rate was like 200+ or something
i was hooked up to an IV drip with what i heard had potassium in it at
i was given periodic injections of something that sounded like the word "gravel" for dizziness
towards the final 8 hours i was given half a cup of activated charcoal every hour
i don't recall anything else
i recall the doctor telling my father that there's no antidote for caffeine overdose, and that since it was a powder it was too late for charcoal at that stage
never tried any so i'm not sure
still wrapping my head around it and going over the facts, but yeah i understand i think
zyzz watches over me
i recall sweating profusely now, multiple times when i became hydrated again
latino paramedic in the ambulance was like "sweating a bit there eh buddey?"
thanks friend. carelessness on my part and i don't plan on making mistakes, but everyone says that
i've had yohimbine before, shit was spooky and i didn't even take that much
i was already driving to the gym and it hit instantly after about 3 minutes after ingestion
i used to have asthma when i was obese (i used to weigh 133-135 kilo back in early 2014)
i woke up my younger brother, but he didn't do anything other than pull out a chair for me
also 3 younger sisters in house but i was gone before they woke up
took all my focus to drive home safely, i just did right turns and came back
i'm in canada so none of this will cost me anything personally thankfully (i'm poor as fuck)
laughed at the term "anti-freedom"
back up to 98 kilo now, as of 48 + 12 hours later
i considered if i had a sensitivity to it or not, usually just having 200mg before a workout amped me up some
not sure though
shit man, that's really insane
my dad bought it to create his own pre-workout mixture (he lifts too)
i'm used to consuming nasty shit and flavourless whatever
lost lots of weight in 2014/2015 eating flavourless whey powder, bland as fuck diet, etc
You taste-impaired kent, anhydrous caffeine is unbelievably bitter. How could you mistake that shit for even the worst-tasting preworkout? Are you in the middle of the worst cold of your life?
not much else to say that i already have, i just got use to flavourless, bitter, nasty tasting supplements/food in my journey of weight loss
read this entire thread for great lulz and this is the thing that still gets me.
> I wasn't aware of what it was
Like... jesus christ OP. This is some grade school shit where they tell you not to eat whats under the sink.
oh alright. yeah guess it was just habit, my routine is just wake up, take pre-shake, go straight to gym, 5-6 times a week
he was using the container that my old pre-workout was in
Glade you're ok OP. I drank a 36 pack of ghetto red bull once and that was horrible. Me and my friend stayed up for 2 days and drank Jagerbombs. We were shitting and throwing up like every 2 hours. We looked like meth heads. I then crashed and slept at this girls house for a whole day. She thinks i'm a junkie now. I didn't even get laid either.
damn that's actually really crazy as fuck
first/best ideas that come to mind
after 3 minutes: truck hit me, lit my brain of fire. POV entered quake mode
after what i think was an hour or two: shaking and slamming my limbs into the side of the bed handles. each slam felt like what i'd imagine being shot by a gun feels like
fragments of memories in the following 20 hours or whatever: excruciating, unfathomable pain i wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. as if every nerve in my body was being stabbed and set on fire. blocked out everything else - no emotions/thoughts, only pain. happily not conscious for most of this, and if i was i don't remember more than maybe 2-3 hours total
final 8 hours: rolling headaches, shaking, twitching, general feelings of pain/agony/illness
after getting home: left shin/ankle really sore (probably from smashing against shit), jaw sore as FUCK, vocal cords sore, heart tickles. rolling headaches. joints are all stiff and achey
as of right now: jaw still hurts like a bitch, and it feels like i have DOMS on every muscle in my body
Shit OP, here's your girlfriend. I seriously hope you'd feel better starting tomorrow morning.
they were actually really close to putting me on kidney dialysis around the 24 hour mark. something about the seizures finally stopping
but the blood work came back, they did a huddle, and said i wouldnt need it
walked out 6 hours later with the guy discharging me saying that supplements just straight up don't work and i should just give him my money instead of buying them
some retarded reasoning like "if supplements worked, nobody would be fat"
didnt feel at all like arguing or being angry at the stupidity of it
but holy fuck that had to have been close to the dumbest shit i ever heard
Bro, are you saying 12 grams is enough to kill 3.5 billion people? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU OP?
Well, he may be an idiot for saying supplements don't work, but before you get angry for someones stupidity in the near future, you should take a look at yourself OP.
>YOU ONLY TOOK ONE SCOOP??
>never saw that/heard the story
Dunno if that guy died, I haven't seen him make another thread...
>Has a stroke while squatting by bursting the blood vessel behind his eye
>Drives home with intense head-pain
>Decides to shit-post on 4chan while vision is blurring, left side of his body is numbing
>Asks /fit/ if he should go to the doctor
>Everyone realizes this dude has a stroke immediately
>20 minutes after OP's saying his left side is even more numb
>People freaking out, convincing him to call 911
>OP leaves/dies/finishes his troll job
I think I just finished going through withdrawal a few hours ago actually
You're right, it was almost as bad as being in the hospital itself, if that's what it was
Was twitchy as fuck, babbling to myself, speaking to anyone I saw with no filter, walked around the neighborhood until my legs went numb, giggling randomly at nothing, and just a heavy overall feeling of anxiety
I didn't like it
Also something else weird happened during my withdrawal. I had this strange urge to suck my best friend off. I resisted it but it was weird - I'm pretty sure I'm not gay.
I always was under the impression that withdrawals came from the deficit the brain is in without the drugs as a result of the body's long term adaptation to substance abuse (lower neurotransmitter production, fewer receptors, that kind of stuff).
Would a one time megadose of a drug have that kind of effect? Obviously he's going to be pretty fucked up for a while, but chemical dependence wasn't really what came to mind.
any hallucinations or delusions? Elaborate on this experience. I probably can't help but I'm curious about your potential brain damage.
I was assuming that OP has been taking caffeine in decent doses for a significant amount of time, and now the fact that he can't have anymore will be doubly unpleasant because of the recent shock to the system
I thought they'd make you stay indoors with supervision or something
not me, but i thought that was funny
genuinely scared i might have brain damage
i don't think i can tell just by focusing and thinking about it, but i'm aware it's a high possibility
my caffeine tolerance was already pretty low in the first place
as for hallucinations, i've never had any of those types of drugs or anything so i'm not sure if what i saw in the last 8 hours were hallucinations or if i was just still fading in and out
this is true, on average i've had 100-400mg around 4-5 times a week for about 8 months straight prior to this
not regular in any regard, but enough to be significant i'd imagine
as for staying indoors, i just acted on impulse for awhile and one of those was to walk outside and get fresh air
How bad is caffeine for shit like your liver or kidneys?
Like twice a week I get a big coffee from 7/11 and put like 2 stok shots.
those the 2 shots are like 80mg... so I would need a whole lot of them for something similar to happen huh?
Kind of a hard question about hallucinations I guess. They're not always obvious, unless you remember or experience stuff that your brain tells you can't possibly be/have been real.
I have a buddy who got diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic. He didn't realize he was having visual hallucinations because none of them were out of place or noteworthy. He just saw some extra shit that wasn't there. Perception is some weird stuff.
You seem pretty coherent so most likely if you did any noteworthy damage it will be something you can live with and/or control with the help of medical professionals. If this experience was going to make you braindead or retarded you'd already be braindead or retarded. Just focus on taking care of yourself, the usual stuff like eat enough, drink water, sleep lots. As more time passes things should normalize and get better as your brain re-adapts to it not hyper caffeine state.
>If this experience was going to make you braindead or retarded you'd already be braindead or retarded
that makes sense, makes me feel better thanks
and yeah trying to eat more and keep it down despite no appetite
ate a 650 calorie chicken sandwich earlier and didn't lose it. pretty proud of myself
come on man, you said it was caffeine but we all know that it was another drug with the C. It's a shame that you found out your father is a user this way, but don't worry. This is a safe zone and we don't judge here. You have to forgive him, the struggle for those persons is real and they would give up if they could.
so, which brand it was? ON micronized?
Also, get tested for lyme disease if you have been out in the wilderness in the last ten years.
A retarded dyel housemate of mine once took a teaspoon of my caffeine powder thinking it was cut down, 4/5 proplus (50mg each) and a strong cup of coffee because he was playing cod or some shooter and wanted to be faster. Think it worked out as about 8000mg
Was obviously in a bad way, to be honest i was hoping his reaction would have been worse to teach him firstly not to steal my caffeine and secondly to read the fucking label if he's going to be that retarded
Googled it myself.. About 100mg in one cup. So he just "drank" 100 cups of coffee. jesus
you build resistance to caffeine like insane, you can ramp up your daily dose to a couple grams in a month easy (speaking from experience)
powdercity.com, $11 a lb
it's dirt fucking cheap
other powder sites sell it too
I once had a friend who thought he took 200mg of MDMA powder but it was 2C-B powder. Near-Death Experiences are reported from ~60mg in PiHKaL. There was no way he could die from it since the LD50 is really high, yet he died several times in the duration of 12 hours in his mind. He has PTSD now. He's been in therapy for years now.
Cheer up, you see.
blech, RCs are fucking gross
really rustles my jimmies when creepy assholes sell them to kids and tell them it's molly.
I know people who eat them like candy and are fine but I took some and ended up having bizarre lasting side effects that have only recently started subsiding.
Oh shit 2c-b is some real nasty shit when you take too much of it. I've done maybe 20mg of it and that was intense and scary and not cool.. cant imagine what it would be like to take 200
On 20 it felt like somebody took my brain and put it in a blender
Its a cheap shitty substitute for LSD. The world would be better off without 2C shit
I've never tried any of these chems, but having read PIHKAL, I'm inclined to think this dude's right, and the other is wrong. Shulgin makes clear they have very different effects, and he is basically the Godfather of Psychedelics.
I've tried both, so I wouldn't say i have no idea. The effects were similar, but not the same. They both made me trip balls, but i've heard 2c feels like a mix between acid and amphetamine.
On acid i just hugged the grass and was one with the earth and felt fantastic.
On 2c-b i pissed in the bathtub and missed, thought i was a troll and later thought i was a mountain. I was also freaked out as fuck
No i took off all my clothes and stomped around the house, while my sober brother told me to get dressed. I took on a shirt and walked around with the ol' dockaroo swinging.
Also the music sounded pretty weird. Someone put on songs i knew well and had heard plenty of times, but i could not recognize them at all.
You can, that's right.
I've had this discussion over and over again, it's like comparing speed to meth, there are similarities, sure, but they are not the same at all.
2C-x takes you on a trip, it's relatively consumer friendly, hits almost instantly, peaks and plateaus for not that long (3-4 hours usually) and you come down pretty quickly. You don't have an afterglow to fight. Your experiences differ a lot, depending on where you take it and what you do
>go to a club
have fun with your epilepsy
>stay at home
become a part of your couch, wait for the hallucinations to pass and have the best sex of your life
You can attend parties on 2Cs as much as you could on shrooms, you'll still be the obvious guy on drugs but you work
LSD doesn't take you on a trip, it takes you on a journey. Take the next day off, kiss reality goodbye and spend the next 14 hours in wonderland. How is that comparable?
Everything you see shifts before your eyes, if you close them, the CEVs will take over, there are no breaks on the LSD train, no way to take a breath. You'll be gone no matter where you are and what you do, a pitiful shadow of yourself, accepting the new reality as your own. When you survived it, you can spent the next 10 hours troubled and shaken, you still hear voices, most things scare you a little, you just want to get under the covers of your bed and hope that you can sleep
2C-x are no shitty substitutes for LSD, they are the less exhausting, more fun version of them. The "I'd like to leave reality for a little bit" take without going all in. I love LSD, but it's too stressful and demanding to take more than twice a year, LSD is not suitable for a regular use, whilst 2C (preferably 2C-B) can offer you the same fun time MDMA can, without any negative consequences. It has a perfect runtime and no bad comedown or afterglow, making it one of the best drugs.
>not realizing you're having stroke
this is far too common. Many of patients I dealt with in rehabilitation could have been treated if they'd have gone to doctors straight away
>wake up in middle of night to intense headache
>can't move left side of the body
>crawl into bathroom using just one half of the body
>crawl back to bed, wake up partner and ask if they should go to hospital
>don't call ambulance, just drive there
>and don't bother going to a actual hospital with facilities to handle such situations
>drive to a private practioners home to wake him up
the window which in the clot can be dissolved without leaving permanent damage is small. If in doubt and either side of the body is not functioning properly -> go to hospital.
We all make stupid mistakes sometimes OP
Glad you're not dead Bruv. I drink alot of black coffee and probably 2 - 3 cups within 3 hours before a workout if I've been at work all day and I'm tired.
This concerns me.
Wait, so if you have a stroke, it's better to go to a private practitioner instead of going to a hospital? Just confused since you say not to call an ambulance, instead to just drive straight to the hospital, and right after you say not to...
I don't get coffin dependance like this, caffeine may push you a little in the beginning, but fucks your adenosine levels, therefore making you more tired and less productive in the end
Quit the coffee m8
It fucking means that half the population wouldnt be able to handle 12g of caffeine.
So if every fucking dumb cunt on the planet takes 12g of caffeine, half of those dumb fucks would die.
25i-nbome I think, never had it though
I only heard bad things about it, you are right, it seems to be the cheap, shitty lsd
From what I've heard, the effects are the same, but more on the bad side. I hope I never accentually buy it, some people sell them as LSD
In all these years I never had a bad experience with drugs unfortunately, the worst thing was spending 6 hours in front of my bathroom mirror.
I tried to move muscles in my face faster than that dude in the mirror, but somehow he always knew what I was up to, no matter what grimaces I made. One day I will get you, mirror man, one day
>yesterday a bitch dies from taking 8 DNP tablets
Really? I missed out on that because I haven't been lurking the DNP general, because my last cycle was in February. I assume it's archived?
Wow man. Glad you're still alive. I've had similar experiences, though mine are somewhat more deliberate. Overdosed on demerol when I was 17 or so. Took way more than the suggested recreational dose because I didn't feel anything after about an hour or two of ingesting the initial dose. Ended up falling out in an Abercrombie & Fitch while shopping with my mom. Woke up in a hospital. Scary shit. Second time was maybe even more stupid. Ordered ~500mg 2c-t-7 from a vendor. It is an extremely potent hallucinogen/stimulant/entactogen. I read on various websites that you should snort it, and that people have even died from taking it that way. But for whatever reason I felt like I was safe with the dosage I had eyeballed out. The first thing that happens is an intense burning sensation in your nose. Like someone took a blowtorch to it. And from there I was more or less in psychosis. I was talking to people on the phone while I was using the toilet, except my phone battery had died and I wasn't really talking to anyone. Before that I sent my therapist a text that was basically word salad. It made absolutely no sense. I regained lucidity a couple of hours later, though I was not entirely clear-headed because I was convinced that I was dying. And I also convinced myself that reality is a simulation and that everything and everyone was a fabrication of my consciousness. I think there is a medical term for that. Derealization I believe it is. For a couple of weeks I did not believe reality was real. Then eventually I began to come to terms that even if this were true I'm still here and I'm not dead so what's the point in freaking out about it. Fast forward 7 years and now I'm finally starting to get my shit together. But that experience left leaves lasting impressions on my psyche that will likely be with my until I die. And I have HPPD, meaning I still see colors and shifting patterns everywhere. It's not a major distraction, as you might think it would be.
Let me tell you my routine for the last 3 days
>Wake up at 4.45am for work
>Work 6am - 6pm
>Get home for 6.30pm
>Go boxing 7pm - 8.30pm
>Go home, shower, go to bed for 10pm
>Wake up at 4.45am for work
>Work 6am - 6pm
>Get home for 6.30pm
>Go to the gym for 7pm
>It's busy so it takes a while but I work chest and shoulders
>Get home for about 8.30
>Shower, bed for about 10pm
>Wake up at 4.45am for work
>Work 6am - 6pm
>Get home for 6.30pm
>Go to the gym for 7pm
>It's busy so it takes a while but I work Back and bicep
>Get home for about 8.30
>Shower, bed for about 10pm
>Work all day again and then go to the cinema to see avengers 2
>Work all day and then legs
I don't get a chance to grab much sleep at night, if I don't drink coffee before working out I'm fucking dead and weak. When I'm not working I don't drink it at all.
its a greentext story in which all the wrong things happened
only confusing part is that I said
>gone to doctors straight away
when I should have said
>gone to hospital straight away
if there's any reason to believe you or someone is having stroke its straight to hospital. Ambulance in most cases is preferable but if you can reach hospital faster by your own vehicle or meet the ambulance half way then that can help.
>i put a 20-22gram scoop of whatever it was into some water and drank it
caffeine is bitter as hell, you would have struggled to get it down. A 200 mg pill busted apart in my mouth one time and the tiny bit of powder that hit my tongue made me gag and cringe
one scoop of hyde is about 400mgs.
you took 30 scoops worth.
holy fuck ahaha damn you dodged a bullet.
i've taken 2 scoops before and i wore the enamel off my teeth from clenching it and my muscles started cramping because i couldn't stop flexing unconsciously, specifically my quads hands and traps.
funny shit. keep me posted.
I dissolve the caffeine powder in my mouth before washing it down nowadays
it doesn't even taste bitter anymore, it has a completely different taste than coffee for example
maybe I'm a freak or I just got conditioned to the taste
I think 'gravel' is what canadians call diphenhydramine. Sedating antihistamine; maybe in addition to benzo and beta blocker. You'd only be treating the symptoms and keeping him stable until the shit can flush through. You'd have massive adenosine receptor activation. He'd have a splitting headache later
Caffeine acts on adenos
In an age where learning a new term is as easy as selecting the fucking text, right clicking and clicking "Search Google for 'LD50", you'd think we'd be past the point where ignorant mongoloids like yourself have to take the time to post that they're ignorant mongoloids.
passed out, just woke up
this is accurate
made me laugh, thanks
my next plan is to lick my cat's butt until i get an intestinal tapeworm
was there any lasting damage? how much did he weigh?
i was told it was like drinking 140-150 250mL cans of red bull, not sure how accurate that is
all they could really do was make me as comfortable as they could and hope for the best
not much hope to go on though
yeah i'm going to take four scoops so i lose 28 kilo
the math checks out
internet, as other guy mentioned
never seen it in stores, but never looked
>cream and sugar
don't forget your purse friend
man that's really shitty
not sure if i have PTSD, i probably do
will seek therapy when/if i finally come down
i told some friends i didn't want to because i don't want someone who's being paid to listen to me, but i realize the smart move is to go anyways
still jittery and twitchy right now
yeah i just used 100mg pills prior to this
you seriously belong to the case report section of pubmed OP. Close call. You avoided dialysis though, so it was probably not that bad from a toxicology standpoint
Also, if I were you, I would avoid completely any form of exercise for the next week, maybe the week after. don't go full crossfit and lift tomorrow mate. You probably had subclinical rhabdomyolysis from the extremely strong muscle contraction you had, the massive DOMS you're feeling in all your body are proof of that. If you lift tomorrow and contact your muscles again, you really risk rhabdo and renal failure this time
just reading your posts is freaking me out
i guess i missed that part earlier
just laughed really hard
too early to tell if there's any lasting ones
i think i'm going through more withdrawal right now
the thought of not making it home and managing to call the hospital scares the shit out of me
might get a shirt that says "careless mistake"
wait a second
going to read that soon
opened it in another tab, and it didn't load for a bit, and then i heard the voice of the narrator and freaked out because i didn't know where it was coming from and forgot i opened the tab
coffee, not even once
hey thanks for sharing your experience, glad you're better (as far as that means)
kekked at "texted the word salad"
keep it up friend
i had mixed it in water which probably helped, then chugged it
i'm used to bitter/nasty flavours, and try to not let that shit touch my tongue on the way in
my jaw must have been clenched like a motherfucker
it's been days since ingestion and my jaw/teeth/gums still hurt like hell
as for dodging a bullet, i think i'd prefer being shot two times by a revolver than go through this pain again
rub your belly and pat your head
thanks, i was wondering what the hell i was taking and "gravel" made no sense
you've given me a lot to google
which will probably make me reconsider going back on monday
so for all that i thank you
i still have DOMS everywhere and my joints tickle
>go to uni chemlab
>have to isolate caffeine from some shit
>nearly covered a wall in acid but ayy I did it
>was told that I've made enough to kill anyone that took and for the love of god never consume it
Well thanks OP I've always wondered what would happen if I consumed it.
why even buy caffeine powder, when you can just drink black coffee or get it in pill form.
i can't seem to fall asleep, i just pass out
tuesday: i'll say i was awake at 11am ish, that's when i think i stopped passing out frequently
went home and passed out, i think for 5 hours
wednesday: i think i got 2-3 hours of whatever rest it is
thursday/today: another 2-3 hours
it's 11:00am now
well at least that means that youre not in the late stages of sleep deprivation where hallucinations happen cause you at least still remember some things, fortunatly it didnt happen to me but if you stop sleeping long enough you can pretty much forget the entirety of a day/people you met/things you did that day
i wonder if it's safe to take something to help me sleep, but i doubt it
i really wish family/friends were around but it's been the middle of the week all week
mostly just been alone at home
bretty sure that caffeine plus sleeping pills will tax your system alot and wont work(unless you OD on sleeping pills). Bad idea unless you wanna become an hero. maybe get something relaxing like tea and a bath(unless you still black out)
not sure what thread you're referring to, or what happened, but i personally can't wait to start deadlifting again
might be a few months but it's already on my mind
just do a lot of research for form and breathing
and drink a lot of water
If you're not obese, old, or genetically predisposed to strokes then you probably won't get one.
I fucked up my deadlift form all the time when I was starting out and just took a break and started over when I recovered.
Just study your mistakes and learn from them.
God dammit OP. You're the reason why we have all these pearl clutching cunts screaming to ban this shit to protect "muh children".
People bring up a good point about the powder being too bitter to even get down, but it's definitely possible for someone who is used to the taste.
I was a druggy faggot in high school who would take whatever I could get my hands on that wasn't a hallucinagen. It didn't take long before eating pills was completely fine, and the bitter taste didn't bother me at all. The first time I bit into a pill I immediately threw up in the parking lot. Hope you're doing well OP, I used to take about two grams of caffeine a night. Withdrawals will be a bitch and last a long time, maybe a couple weeks. Just be happy you're alive and man through them.
>OP indicated that he lives in Ohio
>OPs dad mixes his own preworkout and thus seems to be a somewhat serious lifter
>OP said that the first lift he'll do when he gets back is the OHP
>OP generally seems like a cool guy judging by his posts
>Jonnie Candito is from Ohio (rite?)
>Jonnie's father lifts, been in a couple of his vids
>Jonnie recently posted a vid about his weak OHP
>Candito is pretty based
C-could it really be? Get well soon, Jonnie!
Back, maybe last check in before thread maxes. Don't feel the need to continue much, shit happens and we move on
Yeah I'm starting to be in the "I'm lucky/invincible" phase I guess
Thanks friend. Yeah I'm definitely dealing with withdrawal right now still. And yeah I was definitely used to bad tasting shit and just toughed it out each time for a year