>old man pretends to be hot guy online
>women agree to have tied up, blindfolded, bdsm style sex with him
>discover after that it is an old guy
>She added: "He was a balding man of about 65, who was quite wrinkly and wore glasses - I was absolutely disgusted."
"Creep" is the most sexually oppressive word of our generation.
Men who aren't outwardly attractive cannot be slightly flirtatious because they are labelled creeps.
Whereas a hot guy can border on sex crimes and just be "playful and nice"
Wait what? How does it work?
Are you just like
> i let a complete stranger fuck me
> i have never seen him before
> before i can get a glimps he blindfolds me
> still get wet because of unrealistic expectations
Do you hear supermong, there is still hope
I'm not so sure dude, just be polite and go and talk to them.
>man knowingly pretends to be a male model to lure women into sex
>/fit/ says "THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULDN'T TREAT WOMEN LIKE HUMANS!!"
and yeah the girls are stupid for falling for it, but don't act like the guy isn't a creepy fuck as well
it was bondage sex l
she was probably restrained and couldn't touch him
I think it's rape. The women consented to fuck the guy in the picture, not the old man. Rape is being forced or coerced into having sex with someone you don't want to. If those women knew who he really was, they'd have said no, so I say trickery counts too.
I'm surprised none of the women asled for more pics or to meet first.
>Dude pretends to be disease free
>Woman agrees to have tied up, bdsm sex with him
>He doesn't use protection, she can't do anything about it, he fucks her, then has a lol about having a disease and not telling her
There is a reasonable amount of room for stuff that doesn't need to be disclosed, but being deceived on such a level - a level that would entirely determine whether people would have believe it to be safe to have sex with you or not - is not ok.
Imagine a life where you have never been great at anything, never felt the urge to be great at anything, never felt that magnetic admiration to someone who was great at something, wanted to imitate and ultimately defeat him. Just nothing. Literally all you do in life is exist. Occupy space. pass the time. You're a chick.
You're bored,tweeting about your fucking hair and not even feeling any kind of happiness from it, just soothing your constant need to be bitter and cunty and petty toward other women. Every single thing you've done in the past year was mundane, shallow, and boring. You spent the last six hours reading kinda-interesting Reddit stories about people who made interesting Halloween hats for their kids or some stupid bullshit that you think is interesting and you may say is interesting but you're not really sure if it's really interesting. You're just fucking sitting there, gestating, fermenting, with a moist hole between your legs that guarantees you'll at least never have to get up and move around and work to support yourself.
And then you see men, over in some corner, having fun. You've never seen this before. What are they even doing? Instead of their consciousnesses merely sitting in their thick skull and revolving around itself, they are imbuing their conscious energy and intentionality into external objects, crafts, goals, projects. All the bitterness and cuntiness you feel nonstop seems to be absent, as they congratulate each other for being victorious, and happily learn from someone who defeated them. These creatures are truly content to be alive. They have found purpose in a purposeless universe.
And your gaze turns back on itself, on your self, and you realise you've never had that. You can never have it. You're just a stupid cunt.
So you get up, you walk over there, and you fucking ruin everything. Just ruin the whole fucking thing. Because you're a woman.
Nice, so that basicly means that if i have sex with a tranny and she didnt told me (she dont has a dick anymore but had one before) i will just go to sue her for rape.
Props to the grandpa, what a playa.
Don't be dumb. If I was autistic enough to fuck a girl while blindfolded and later found out that she was like a trap or something id beat the fuck out of the fag. Women cant really do that, so they get them charged for rape. Both are fine outcomes in this scenario.
> beta cuck
Not everyone goes on /pol/
One of the best pastas /fit/ has produced in a long time.
Pretending to be a highly attractive male on some dating website or tinder is the FASTEST way to redpill yourself. The amount of shit you can come up with with the grill still liking you is unbelievable. The "game" required to slay as a very attractive fellow is laughable.
yeah, it's a great emotion-laden pasta and everything. But there are so many useless males out there, who sit in bars several days a week, play vidya past the age of 25-30, don't do any sports.
The majority of people are boring and lazy
Legally, this is really interesting.
Is the image (in this case, the model) the representation of the guy, or the things he said / typed (the old guy's words).
If I claimed to drive an expensive car, own an expensive yacth, etc., and that turned out to be untrue could a woman claim 'rape'?
I don't think it's fair to say that a false image online fully constitutes an identity. I'd argue that the words, the interaction are at least equal or (if I was arguing in the guy's defence) even greater than the image.
Lesson learned though, if you're gonna do this, get some professional headshots taken, with make up, and lots of photoshop - harder for her to argue you misrepresented yourself, especially since she'll probably have done the same.
Doesn't this mean that non-disclosing transsexuals are also committing rape
Also what in the ever loving fuck is that new captcha? I don't think that could be any worse. We have to paste our own code? What am I writing your fucking scripts next?
>And then you see men, over in some corner, having fun.
More likely they are clinging to her and abiding her every whim.
Girls are entitled because mouthbreathing assholes think giving chicks everytning they want and being "nice" = sex
If you're 4'2, tie up women who expect you to be 7'0 and fuck them, then yes, it's rape.
Threads like these really drive home how delusional and psychotic /fit/ is. You're no better than SJWs.
What a stupid fucking example. Its still the woman's fault she believed him to have unprotected sex. Would you go to Thailand and bareback a back alley whore if she said she was disease free or would you use some fucking common sense?
Yeah but that's not the same as the OP case, which is just based on deceit for attraction.
This just goes to show how stupid women are and that if you know how to play them, you can fuck them. I wish I had the balls or know-how to do that though.
By that logic every man who had sex with a woman with makeup on or implants or while he was drunk was raped. Where are the rape charges when women puncture condoms or lie about birth control?
Where is the line with photoshop?
At what point would it go from just altering your picture to misrepresenting yourself?
If that old dude was good with photoshop he could have turned his own picture into a sexy hunk. How is that any different than using photoshop to remove a blemish?
How and where could the law make the distinction?
This also brings up another cool idea.
If a fat chick just posts a picture of her face or an old body picture and I agree to meet up with her blindfolded and let her suck my dick only to find out she's fat afterwards is that rape?
>meet girl during a night out
>go back to hers and fuck like rabbits
>next morning realise she was wearing makeup the whole time without telling me
>mfw 200 showers later and the dirt still won't wash away
I'm personally part of the 'it's to late to call rape afterwards' crew, but I still think this guy should be punished, the only reason those women said yes is because they assumed he was someone else.
>guy rapes gitl
>/fit/ says because of this women arent human
Never change /r9k/
all of this except the warm hole bit applies to regular boring people with no real lives.
Damn /fit/ you used to be a lot less misogynistic and rational, when did you get so /r9k/?
Some of the less insane /r9k/ users came here asked for advice without reading the sticky and improved themselves. They went back and spammed /r9k/ with how great /fit/ is and so many of them came here and started their shit a bit of their board culture soaked into the place.
>All you had to do was ignore the people who didn't read the sticky
Consent obtained by fraudulent deception is not the same as informed consent.
Let the butthurt flow freely, but any other verbal contract obtained by fraud, is fraudulent.
If women annoy you just go gay and shut your whining pieholes. If you are not successful with women, YOU failed to learn and adapt to reality so YOU suck.
If you prefer men psychologically to women, just have sex with men instead. Physical culture etc idealizes men. At least gayfags are honest, and no woman can make you cum more intensely than a man. Guys give the best head by far.
>Woman pretends to be pretty by wearing makeup, pushup bra, tight clothes, taking pictures at high angles
>Asks to have sex with the lights off
>In the morning find out she's dog ugly
>Sue for rape
Imagine if you got blindfolded and fucked by a 60 year old hag. Bet you wouldnt feel so good either.
And yes, women discriminate against men when it comes to flirting. You ARE creepy when you are trying to hit on someone out of your league, just like YOU would find it disgusting to have a landwhale hitting on you.
You need to lose the sluthate wizardry /fit/, turn of your computer and go outside.
also which one of you permavirgins wrote this?
nah, if you accept that as a principle then you would be forced to accept that whenever a person lied about their job and slept with a woman the woman could then prosecute them for rape, or any time a person portrayed themselves favourably in order to win a girl's affections.
Such a principle is untenable.
These girls weren't drugged or coerced, they freely decided that they wanted to have blindfolded sex with someone they had never met before. Caveat emptor.
p.s. this guy probably is not going to get convicted. enjoy your butthurt.
patriarchy society hurts men and women man! Men can never get justice for it cause we think we should enjoy it (most do) However, I hope society changes shit like men having to be forced to pay child support even if they didn't agree to keeping the child
>If you are not successful with women, YOU failed to learn and adapt to reality so YOU suck.
The harsh truth. I remember my sexless teens where I blamed women for being shallow, thought men were better and simply refused to accept rejection. I was basically a walking le edgy redpill maymay. Fuck, the cringe.
but how did they not see him before being blindfolded? Something is fishy here..
That's what the French call a
> ruse de guerre
Flying false flags in naval battles as long as you raise your true colors before firing shots is considered acceptable.
> though I guess he shot his load before turning on the lights.
You people are gender swapped version of tumblrina's, get over yourself and your crippling anxiety.
You're literally the women in this story and not the men. Stop caring about what other people do, go live your life and conquer your everest's, along the way you might meet a nice girl and end up with them if not who fucking cares.
Having a gf wont solve all your problems, having a gf when you have fucked out problems makes everything much worse. You're wasting your damn lives on the internet building all this rage inside about this fictional strawwomen who is just an asshole who happens to be a female.
This. This fucking website is the pinnacle of sour grapes, crab mentality, tall poppy syndrome and other toxic attitutdes. Women aren't evil creatures AT ALL. Both genders have flaws and people in general are assholes.
Oh yeah, the people who laugh in the face of any person who says men are also discriminated against will definitely be looking out for your rights. Don't you worry 'bout a thing.
Anyway this case is definitely fraud, if not rape. I know there are some places that tipified "rape by fraud" as a different offense which despite the title isn't actually rape but an aggravated form of fraud (because the injury wasn't wrong or harm upon property but against another's body and rights) which seems to be adequate in this case. In any event, if proven true, he's not getting away with it scot-free, that's for sure.
I'm no cock pocket, I just can't stand failures. Complaining like this is the emotional equivalent of fat people saying it's too hard to go to the gym, just fucking get over it do it you useless sack of meat.
If your biggest problem is "waahhh girls dont like me" then you really need to just fucking end it. You're in a golden age of mankind where you can travel the world freely and access endless torrents of information and you biggest issue is you can't curl up next to someone to talk about your feelings.
The rest of the sperm in your dads balls must be fucking pissed off that you're the cunt that won.
But this is dead-on accurate.
> my wife's friends are always bitching about how they can't find a "good guy" like me
> will, Sally in the Alley, maybe it's because my wife didn't get a reputation of jumping from cock to cock
if this is rape, then advertisment is theft.
have you ever bought a burger that looked like those in the advert pictures? at best, they were both 'burgers', like the model and the old man are both 'males'.
It's funny because that's a real, as in defined and practiced, thing in war. And the guy in question was french. And the joke involved splooge.
Did she say no?
Did she resist?
Did she not enjoy the entirety of the act?
> she regretted it once she found out who he really was
So has every single one of the chicks I've humped and dumped.
(Same story for any drunk guy that fucked a fatty)
It's just so easy. Especially once they are nearing 30 and all they've learned to do to attract guys is to drink and party.
> but by then they are the old girl, and are getting less and less attention
Then you scoop 'em up, fuck them, and roll on.
That said, I love women, but not everything with a vagina deserves the title.
Just like any guy with functional sex organs can be a father, but they aren't necessarily a dad.
That said, I am an American.
I'll bet $5 that your wife is growing to hate her old friends, and that the friends all bad mouth the shit out of you to your wife.
Nigger you have no idea.
She went to a liberal hive-mind school. All her friends are special snowflakes except for her friends who were military (like she was.)
I got yelled at for holding the door open for one of her "trigger happy" friends.
> thank Christ she doesn't hang around these nut cases any more.
The only ones she sees are relatively normal, but that can still be depressing.
> like the awkward beta getting married to the ex party sloot
It reads like a bad stereotype from a blog.
Has no one in this thread heard of "rape by fraud/deception"?
It's rape. That guy violated them because those women were lied to about who he really was. If they had known they would not have let him fuck them.
I'm not sure what the legal view on this is but speaking strictly from personal morality I don't think consent obtained for sex through a fraudulent representation of oneself should be punishable. We should look down on it and on those who do it but I don't see why they shouldn't be able to. The women in this instance should have demanded to be able to see the man in person and then exercise their right to retract consent. By agreeing to be be blindfolded and never seeing who they were having sex with they willingly put themselves in a situation where this could happen. If they found out about who he really was and withdrew consent but he continued then I would call it rape.
Except women don't wear makeup, heels, etc. every day to try and land a guy. They're just trying to look presentable while they're going to work or whatever else.
Fucking idiotic comparison.
This just hammers home how stupid these sluts were.
They not only got catfished, they got cat-fucked. And probably got off to it.
Also, for your reading pleasure:
Basically it's open season for fucking and rolling out once you're in your late 20s. Sluts don't disappear, they just get slutier.
> Dat near-wizard getting his brutal revenge.
Old dude here, you'll find that this is all true, and obvious, in retrospect.
It just works out for the best if you get a lead in your age and career and marry a younger woman before she turns into a party girl or used goods.
My fiancee of 3 years (going to be getting married in a few months) is 24, I'm 30. She was too busy getting a MS in Chem to slut it up.
Heaven, boys. Good women are soft, kind, loving heaven.
Another pic related.
> this describes most of my work friends
> 30, engineering degrees, brutal with female emotions
I should feel bad, and I guess I sort of do, but it isn't like women can't think for themselves.
>Post online pretending to be a hot, fit girl
>Everybody agrees to have sex with me and let me do weird shit to them
>Turns out I wasn't a hot girl but a disgusting Tumblrette landwhale
>No one wants to fuck me anymore.
> American journalist Kate Bolick wrote recently in The Atlantic about breaking off her three-year relationship with a man she described as ''intelligent, good-looking, loyal and kind''. She acknowledged ''there was no good reason to end things'', yet, at the time, she was convinced something was missing in the relationship. That was 11 years ago. She's is now 39 and facing grim choices.
But the best part is they still think that they are entitled to have high expectations:
> ''We arrived at the top of the staircase,'' Bolick wrote, ''finally ready to start our lives, only to discover a cavernous room at the tail end of a party, most of the men gone already, some having never shown up - and those who remain are leering by the cheese table, or are, you know, the ones you don't want to go out with.''
> the ones you don't want to go out with
It's like when fat chicks don't want to date fat guys.
is that so? is that why they get dolled up even more to go to the bar or club?
I agree to go home with a girl, shes tall, pretty, nice long hair, youthful, and fit. we get to get place and she turns off the lights and we proceed to make babbies.
I wake up the next day to see her haggard pimply face was hidden with coverup and shes actually aged more than i thought.
shes actually only 4'7.
shes actually got some nasty cellulite and saddlebags which were hidden with tights
shes actually got an SJW haircut
shes actually got no tits
shes actually browsing tumbler on her ipad as I roll over, then explains to me that I raped her and i need to leave.
Nigger. I was fat and now I'm not. I've been exposes to cunts lies and to societies treatment. Nothing can make me change my mind. I've seen guys dumber than me and with a bad sence of humour get laid only because of their looks. It is you who should stop caring about what others do.
If you are too stupid to understand the concept that most women wear makeup and heels when they head out, then you deserve any disappointment you were too much of an idiot to see coming
>suddenly SJW haircut
you're really desperate to prove a point, huh? I have literally NEVER heard of a situation like that, ever.
>waaah waaah, women like feeling good about themselves and wear stuff to improve their appearance
Jesus christ, get over yourself.
Claiming to be somebody else, especially for the purposes of sex, is typically a crime.
Stop. the. presses.
Just because the women were into a bit of BDSM does not give anybody the right not to fulfil the fantasy they thought they were getting into.
Sure, they were daft to go along with this, but then that's why we have laws to stop people assuming false identities, because if we're not prepared to protect these silly women, we shouldn't be prepared to protect all the stupid people on this planet.
every woman think she deserves only the top 10% of men, that's common knowledge and probably due to evolutionary reasons. With that said, this degenerate behaviour fucks the average and below average looking women over at the end, which is quite ironic too
I just gotta ask, though.
How in the blue fuck is -anyone-, man or woman makes no difference, anyone fucking dumb enough to...
>Be blindfolded in a room
>Allowing a stranger to come fucking near you
>Have sex with said stranger
Before even having laid eyes on them. Think about that. All that shit happened before they saw the man face to face, or none of it would've happened. How do you let yourself get to that point?
> this nigger gets it
Women think they are top-tier, regardless of what they are.
In the end this works out for the actual top tier, while the rest languish in the system they built.
I would say it's sad, but as a guy who was pure beta in high school, I'm grinning on the inside.
I'd like to think they party sluts who cried rape too many times, because they showed me the light.
(As fucked up as it is, once you've made a few rape cries that were fake, no one listens to any in the future, even if they are real)
I'm 26 and it's way easier to bang college chicks than when I was in college.
> "ooh, he's so mature"
> "ooh, I like your car"
> "omg, we can go out wherever is like?"
> "wow, no one in my dorm has muscles like you."
Also I work a lot less in the real world than I did in college.
Gotta love the idiots here. If he was a sick kunt acting like an old man and that's what she was looking for, you'd shit on her instead.
Let's hyperbole the situation to see how ridiculous this all is.
>Walk around in beach asking what are some good spots to jump off cliff into the water
>Random guy passing by tells me of a spot, saying it's safe
>I go there, jump, hit my head on the rocks just below the water and die
>"O-oh no, I've been m-murdered!"
Even in this ridiculous situation, the one who lied is not a criminal. Sure, a fucking douchebag, but not a criminal. Why should the law cater to adults who act just like children without a sense of responsibility for their actions? She feels bad for having sex with an old man? Next time don't be such an idiot.
The old man should get obviously banned off the website for lying and she should just fucking deal with it.
>Can I fuck 18-22 year old club sluts when i'm 30 though?
Like shooting fish in a barrel if you're fit and have your shit together, m8. Even well into your mid-40s if you take extra good care of yourself and age well.
>Cute pic of myself from downward angle to show off my eyes
>Meet up with some hot guys
>They don't recognise me
>Tell me "they didn't realise my profile was being literal when i said i was larger than life"
>they all leave
fucking rapists saying they want to date me and then changing their minds
When you were here before
Couldn't look you in the eye
You're just like an angel
Your skin makes me cry
You float like a feather
In a beautiful world
I wish I was special
You're so fucking special
But I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here
I don't care if it hurts
I wanna have control
I want a perfect body
I want a perfect soul
I want you to notice
When I'm not around
You're so fucking special
I wish I was special
But I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here
She's running out the door
She's running out
She run run run run...
Whatever makes you happy
Whatever you want
You're so fucking special
I wish I was special
But I'm a creep
I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here
I don't belong here
If you get your dick sucked by a tranny and you didnt know it was a dude is that rape? Feminists would argue no but for this case they would say this is rape. And the colateral damage that comes from getting blown by a dude is pretty bad happened to this one snake in my frat lel.
Someone isn't going to make gainz with all that running.
baby head shit freaks me out. My most hated thing is where they have those time lapse videos of babies turning old people.
Yup. Since the tranny is in their worldview an actual woman then they're not required to tell you they're a tranny at all. They're not false pretenses because you have to accept that the tranny is an actual woman. No other worldview allowed. In fact, suggesting they have to tell you is very bigoted of you.
Recently Obsidian, a video games developer, was strong-armed into taking out a joke gravestone submitted kickstarter backer that contained a joke about the guy having killed himself for fucking a dude he thought was a woman. That's just how it goes on the right side of history, my friend. Enjoy the ride.
Very few do anyway. There's many reasons why the suicide rates for trannies is so high. They might even look presentable while young but unless they started hormone therapy quite early they'll look mannish as they grow old. Few guys want to wake up one day and find themselves married to an old dude even if they like trannies.
I also have to tell you that I most likely don't share your views. I don't see transexual people as enemies and I'd definitely be kind and befriend them. They're very disturbed individuals who deserve our understanding. I dislike however feminists, trannies or not, who use these people's pain as battering rams and try to force a single worldview on everyone without any respect for differing ideas. Encouraging trannies to not disclose their identity is not only dangerous as hell for themselves but can be an extremely hurtful betrayal for the person they're with depending on their values and culture.
that's the ultimate irony. people say they are depressed because society, but i think it's the fact that someone convinced them that their mental issues were related to their physical form. now, instead of getting psychological help, they make an extreme physical change that only makes their mental issues worse. it's like getting a tattoo on your face, you can never say 'Well, that was a bad idea". you have to lie to yourself for the rest of your life. same with trannies i feel like
women don't fake their identites for the sake of getting laid. they wear makeup because generally it
1: makes them feel good
2: goes with their tastes
3: is literally expected of them
and to boot, you have people telling you you either wear too much or not enough. quit your bitching about womens everyday lifestyles like it's such a fucking surprise.
My take on deception & consent is that if you deliberately lie about something important or do not disclose something that someone would reasonably want to know in order to consent to have sex with you, you would be violating their consent.
This includes non-disclosing transsexuals, people with STDs (who are aware of it), and people lying about their identity (like the man in the OP).
Anything less important than the thing's I've listed does not constitute a violation of consent because they would not be deemed as being reasonably important in deciding consent.
>makes them feel good
then why are they always bitching and moaning about their appearance? If I had a dollar for every time a girl looks at another girl and complains that she's prettier than her...
>goes with their tastes
their "taste" changes with every new fad that comes out. The new thing right now is high waist pants/shorts with that overly caked on make up Kim kardashian look. Tomorrow it'll be different.
>is literally expected of them
No, it's not LITERALLY expected of them. Men prefer women without makeup on. Other women force women to wear makeup. Don't confuse the two.
>people bitching about how you look
you mean other women? I've never in my life heard a conversation with guys going like: "oh my god I can't believe she wore that outfit today," or "I seriously can't believe she chose to wear that lipstick with that foundation."
because they're insecure and constantly comparing themselves to people they believe are more attractive than they are
so fucking what? styles progress, old appearances become boring and women like keeping up with what is considered aesthetically pleasing.
>men prefer women withou makeup on
yeah, too bad men will complain when they see her dark circles when she does decide to remove it. women look pretty similar to men when they take it off and guys don't like that shit a lot of the time.
yes, people, even men, bitch about how women look or what they wear. i am not saying ALL of them do it but they do do it.
"hurr durr women who wear too much makeup give me trust issues"
>because they're insecure and constantly comparing themselves to people they believe are more attractive than they are
but that's all you do -- complain without ever taking on the necessary steps to becoming more attractive. You simply cake on more makeup and buy expensive clothes rather than getting in shape and taking care of yourself.
>yeah, too bad men will complain when they see her dark circles when she does decide to remove it
So you think it's acceptable to hide your 'true' face and create an illusion?
>yes, people, even men, bitch about how women look or what they wear
I don't believe this. Maybe in some weird instance that a girl wears a giant shirt with shit stains and the font "i eat dick," but other than that men don't gossip in the workplace or at the store about women's clothing choices. Stop deluding yourself. Those negative comments and remarks come from your fellow woman (I'm assuming you're a female from your defensive posts)
>"hurr durr women who wear too much makeup give me trust issues"
Because makeup isn't 'enhancing' the natural features that a woman possesses anymore. Makeup in today's day and age turns women into a completely different person. There was even a rich man somewhere in Asia that divorced his wife because she wore so much make, and had plastic surgery, that she morphed her face into one that was attractive - hiding the fact that she was an ugly bitch.
If you want men to "love and appreciate you for who you are," stop pretending to be something you're not. You guys put on a mask everyday then complain about men only wanting you for your looks. Men are not your problem, your self-delusion is your problem.
This video, for example, perfectly describes what I'm talking about.
Not that anon but not every girl is born with the cute and perfect face, makeup is a way to help make themselves feel better, regardless if fat or not. They can be skinny and still feel ugly as shit, and only plastic surgery could help. Make up is the next best thing they got. They're constantly comparing themselves to other prettier girls and all the ads on tv with beautiful women and wishing they had that. I've seen so many girls wear makeup and usually ask when I've befriended them why they wear it so much and the majority of the answers are "I'm not pretty enough without it" and the majority of the time, it's kinda true.
getting in shape doesn't guarantee youblooking good. it won't give you thick eyelashes or pouty lips. not saying you shouldn't get in shape but having a good body =/= looking good and women are pretty aware of this.
women WANT to be accepted for who they are, but they're too fucking scared to show it, and end up criticizing themselves to the point that they feel like makeup is the only option.
>honey, maybe you should consider wearing a little makeup? You look kinda tired.
>WOW! You look stunning in makeup!
you don't believe this? you are doing it RIGHT NOW. women like wearing makeup for stylistic choices, to hide flaws, or both. they are not exclusively doing it to make themselves attracted to you and most of them don't give a rats ass about whether or not you are looking at an illusion, they are doing it for themselves.
women put on makeup and keep up with styles because it makes them fucking feel good. you are the one having a huge fucking fit over what women like doing with themselves.
>complain about men wanting you for your looks
>if you want men to "love and appreciate you for who you are" etc etc
hahaha holy fuck. are you really not getting it? do you not even realize how preoccupied you yourself are with a womans appearance?
>reply to an online classified for anonymous bdsm sex
>expect safety and honesty
What the heck
So what you're saying is there are boundaries for lies? What if I lie about being 6 inches taller, they see me and still have sex. Is it rape then? What's the acceptable amount of lying about height before it becomes rape? Am I rapist if I lie about 1 inch? 2 inches? Is it 5 inches?
>not believing in the literal definition of rape
>forcible sexual penetration against a non-consenting indiviudal
Consent cannot be rescinded after the fact.
If some hamplanet did this to me I'd fucking call it rape. Although, I can see tumbler fatties doing this and calling it "justice". Fuck that old dude.
>getting in shape doesn't guarantee youblooking good. it won't give you thick eyelashes or pouty lips
obviously. But the point I'm trying to make is that if you're an ugly girl, then cake on makeup to make yourself look completely different, don't get mad when people think you're ugly. But the problem comes with entitlement issues. Ugly girls feel they're entitled to be models and cake on enough makeup until they 'somewhat' reach their desired outcome. What they should be doing is developing other parts of their life to compensate that they may be average. Men understand this, for the most part, and choose to get good at particular skills or advance their career.
>women WANT to be accepted for who they are and wear makeup for themselves
then why completely change your face into that of someone else? Why follow the latest fashion trends made popular by female celebrities? That's contradicting itself a little bit
>You don't believe this you're doing it RIGHT NOW
Yes, because this is the topic of conversation. 99% of the time, in my personal life, I don't even talk about this subject.
>women put on makeup and keep up with styles and I'm having a huge fit
You can do whatever you want and wear anything you want. All I'm saying is that once it all comes off, most men will find you unattractive because you've created such an illusion. If you don't care about how men perceive you, then by all means carry on with what you're doing.
>hahaha holy fuck. are you really not getting it? do you not even realize how preoccupied you yourself are with a womans appearance?
You just stated earlier that you want people to accept you for who you are. I'm making the point that how can people accept you for who you are when your entire face is covered in a mask? Hahaha holy fuck. are you really not getting it?
Ugly girls even with makeup, most of them. Don't feel entitled to shit, if anything they're the ones most willing to do anything to get a guy because they're in competition with the prettier girls.
The entitled ones are the good looking ones
Source? Having a good looking sister.
to make this paaaaainfully simple for you
some women put on makeup to better accept themselves since their normal appearance was deemed unacceptable by others. they hate their normal appearance so much that even they don't accept it.
you do not seem to understand the concept that women want to be accepted for who they are, whether that involves makeup or not. for some, putting on makeup that drastically alters their appearance for the sake of attaining a certain look is a part of who they are, for some it's not. For some women it is literally a form of self expression. accepting women who like drastically altering their appearance is in fact accepting them for who they are because it is what they enjoy.
>All I'm saying is that once it all comes off, most men will find you unattractive because you've created such an illusion
aaand then they go back to putting more on because this just reinforces the idea that they're ugly as they are and won't be satisfied with themselves. nice progress m8.
>how can people accept you for who you are when your entire face is covered in a mask?
Because you're more than your face
If having someone to love your personality requires you to change your face first then you'll change your face if that's what it takes for someone to love you
It's still you under it tho
>want people to accept me for who I am
>better put on more makeup so they'll think I'm pretty
Does this make sense to you in any capacity what so ever?
>some women like drastically altering their appearance. Accepting the women who do this means you're accepting them for who they are.
You keep talking about accepting but you haven't defined it. Do you mean accepting like "oh she likes wearing a lot of makeup" or something? Because yes, there are women who wear tons of makeup and don't even look normal. I accept that these women exist
Or are you trying to say that we should accept the fact that she's wearing a mask and that we shouldn't make comments when she takes the makeup off?
>aaand then they go back to putting more on because this just reinforces the idea that they're ugly as they are and won't be satisfied with themselves. nice progress m8.
but you just said that you wanted people to accept you for who you are? If you truly wanted that then you would wear no makeup, or very little, and say "accept me or move on." But instead you become weak and distort your self worth based on other people's opinions.
Listen, if you're an ugly girl then get good at something useful - it's as simple as that. If you're some girl who likes makeup and wears so much that it completely changes your appearance, don't be surprised when people are shocked once it all comes off.
If I were to put a mask on and convince a girl to have sex with me, am I supposed to be surprised that she finds me unattractive when I take it off? The message shouldn't be to wear more masks, but to stop deluding yourself and get good at something rather than being a lazy bitch who values nothing but vanity.
That's because a lot of chics are dumb and don't have the capacity to escape the whole "Image-is-everything" that's pounded into them from the day they get training bras except for the few that have enough brain cells and smart parents to help them with a different and healthier mentality.
you can't even understand what i mean by "accept", so i won't bother to argue about this anymore even though it should be unbelievably easy to understand.
later anon, hope you read a book some time.
don't associate every /fit/ person with the typical RRREEEE/ r9k mentality. A true healthy mentality stems from the belief that you should become resourceful and valuable in the marketplace. Not just sexually by being ripped or ottermode, but by the ability to set goals, chase after them, and achieve them. Becoming good at a particular hobby (instruments, sports, etc.) is a good start for creating a healthy mindset. Makeup is like drugs in the sense that it's a short-term fix for long-term problems. That's why plastic surgery and makeup are such large industries because most people are lazy as shit - the same with the supplement industry. People want to buy the next hot-product to get in shape rather than committing to the hard work.
Some people are ugly and some are not. If you're an ugly girl obsessed with vanity and self image then you're fucked. Because your only two options are plastic surgery and makeup
you risk looking like a mutated person
you're still ugly when you take it off
Tough titties. Ugly dudes have to accept the fact that they're ugly and focus their endeavors elsewhere. If you don't, you run the risk of being a weird fucking Elliott Roger type person who hates everyone.
modern plastic surgery is actually totally good and safe. the only people you see looking like shit are old women who get so many operations the doctors have nothing to work with or are just not even fixing real things because the client is mentally ill and demanding pointless face changes.
Plastic surgery can easily take a 5/6 and make them an 8/9 and people would literally never know you had it done.
>you risk looking like a mutated person
plastic surgery is pretty damn safe nowadays. we have reality shows where people get massive cosmetic procedures done.
most uggo's just don't want to shell out the money for it.
Ugliness in men is forgivable as long as you have something to compensate for it (being funny, being talented at something, being wealthy, etc.) If you're just an ugly guy that sucks at everything, good luck in life. This applies to women also. If you're ugly, get good at something and divert your energy elsewhere or you're going to be miserable.
This could be true but I don't keep up with modern plastic surgery to even comment. I heard Steve Carrel from The Office had plastic surgery from the first season into the others. His surgery job looks pretty good.
>This applies to women also
No it fucking doesn't
>Damn son that bitch is ugly as fuck but look how good she is at playing the fiddle unf would wife
That doesn't happen
Men want someone pretty
>thinks fucking someone at random without even seeing them is a good idea
>oops le random anonymous wasn't truthful
>it's men's fault tho
I bet the dumb cunt fell for the "waterproof iphone update" as well
You can get shit results if you don't understand your face and don't know what to fix too
But yeah no one is gonna turn out into some 50 procedures abomination most people don't even have money for that
Did anyone save those pix of that one guy from /r9k/ who basically shapeshifted from being an unfuckable goblin into a human being via surgery? It was one of the best examples of the art being used for the betterment of society.
this is all dependent on someone being stupid enough to allow themselves to be blindfolded and restrained in the home of a total stranger that they've never met before and agreeing to sexual intercourse
>tfw no rich jew dad to foot the bill to fix my face
Knowing that image isn't everything that you can get someone and be worth without having to rely on looks, having self-confidence in yourself, doing things to better yourself like anon said>>32274500 Knowing that while you are not the prettiest you have things of value, such as maturity, kindness, good ethics and morals/values etc and generally just being with who you are. It took me a while to get there but I'm finally there and while I'm not the prettiest I'm surrounded by good kind people, a loving husband, and just generally a good amount of healthy love for myself. Nothing egocentric but just just being at peace with who I am and having confidence in it. That kinda shit surrounds you with the people of same mindset. It's great.
So basically it's ok to lack in one area if you have enough in another? I don't understand this. To me feeling like I'm lacking is just unbearable
There's millions of people out there who aren't so why would anyone choose me instead type of thing
those eyes are fucking unnatural as fuck though.
All he had to do was lose the glasses and get a haircut to hide that receding hairline and he'd look decent enough.
Jesus asians are fucking stupid.
This is like those "social experiments" where a date is set up with a man through Tinder and the girls show up in a fat suit or not looking like how she did in the profile and the men are upset by it
Except in those situations, the man is labeled a sexist shallow pig scum who only cares about looks.
It's not exactly about lacking, it's about looking at the whole. It's not being "okay" to everyone, it's about being okay to yourself and to the people who care enough and aren't superficial in the sense that they realize and don't care that perhaps you aren't the cutest or most handsome.
I don't know you so I can't say with certainty but it's probable you feel this way because you have a low as fuck self esteem and perhaps because you haven't realized who you are as a person. I can be wrong, but I can assume/guess that is the cause.
But his after is still a monolid
His before photo one he is squinting the other he's laughing so they're not the best for comparison but I think with surgery the only things he changes was nose and jaw
The rest is hair and gym and makeup
I don't know you on a personal level but I'm going to assume that you suffer with at least one of these problems:
>spend too much time looking at people more attractive than you
>spend too much time on social media and message boards
>aren't passionate committed to anything larger than yourself (a career, a cause, or an area of self development)
>your unit of self worth is placed in the hands of how other perceive you sexuall, i.e. "oh that person is hot I'd fuck them"
It sounds cliche but being attractive without a sense of personality of character behind it is pretty fucking bland. Why do you think the mass majoirty of men and women get in long term relationships/marriage with people who are average? It's because once you get to a certain point, aesthetics don't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Once a person gets past a certain age their looks will fade. Character, hard work, good morals, being caring, being funny and overall an "alpha" (that word is so fucking autistic) personality last a life time. That is far more attractive in the grand scheme of things. /Fit/ will try to tell you otherwise because most of the people on here are young and naively think if they get to 8% bodyfat at 200lbs that suddenly their world will change. The reality is they'll bang some tinder sluts and get burnt out.
That's the guy. Thank you.
>tfw no rich jew dad to foot the bill to fix my face
I think people who want to be parents have a responsibility to set aside money to fix the damage their genes do to their children. You have to plan for it early, just like a college fund.
How is this not as bad as what Frenchie did?
I think that guy is chinese tho
Honestly look for surgery in your area
Korean surgery is overhyped imo they end up very cookie cutter and the results aren't any more natural than other countries
You're confused. You see, these women never wanted to have sex with the 65 year old man. They wanted to have sex with the model. Are you pretending to be retarded?
It's not a matter of "I wanted you but now I regret it", it's "I never wanted you and you did it anyway".
What's the problem with makeup? It's not like you'll fuck her then in the middle of it she'll wash her face and reveal her blemish ladden skin
You'll be fucking the person you think you're fucking from beginning to end
Not start thinking you're fucking a beauty and end up looking at a mummy or anything
Some women are so careful with their makeup that maybe you won't ever even see her blemish face at all
So who cares
Its not everything, but it is necessary. Its like like looking for a job:
To even be able to apply you need credentials(looks), but to get the job you also need a good personality.
Similar for guys, especially when it comes to height.
These women were dumb enough to think a model like that was seriously hitting on them ONLINE, like come on, how could you even think that for a moment? They never even questioned it for a second.
They'd fall for literally anything dude, how is this different from a guy buying a bitch some drinks and making up stories about how he's a millionaire celebrity?
Because he's still himself. They aren't wanting to fuck him because of his job. They want to fuck him because he's good looking enough to have that job. Saying "I'm rich, let's fuck" is different to one of your friends chatting up a girl and then tagging you in when she's not looking.
>i'm half asian i think i rather have an asian surgeon
There are asians surgeons in every country anon
Globalization happened and all
But first look in the mirror, find what you want to change, then look up each procedure
Then go to surgeons websites amd look at their galleries for said procedure
Or maybe look at realself.com
You don't have to be asian to understand an asian face
So then how do you excuse the complete lack of awareness?
>I'm a super handsome model
>but let's have sex in a totally dark room while you wear a blindfold
And you wouldn't question that? That sounds unbelievably suspicious.
These women should be arrested for being criminally stupid.
i have no fucking clue about what i should change about my face because depending on the mirror I look or the picture i take i either look fucking good or a fucking retard
i'd rather let some surgeon wizard do his magic tricks and turn me into a korean super model and shit
>And you wouldn't question that? That sounds unbelievably suspicious.
It's the internet
It's full of degenerates searching for people to have degenerate kinky sex with
Some of them are ugly, some of them are handsome
Because that's the appeal. They're there for blindfold fucking.
>Do you want to fuck with a blindfold?
>Here's the blindfold
>WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BLINDFOLD FOR?
You're as criminally stupid as those that you're lambasting.
If you're questioning why someone handsome wants to get kinky, then you haven't been on the internet very long. The internet is filled to the brim with some of the best looking people you'll ever see, doing utterly depraved and revolting things with repulsive human beings. Fetishes are fetishes. You should know this.
>But try to analyze your face in a mirror not on pics then
depending on the angle and lighting i either look good or like shit.
nobody needs plastic surgery but almost everyone can look better. i need to look as good as i can possibly be to make up my shitty social skills.
And they couldn't take 30s to look at the dude and see if it's the same person?
They should bear at least some of the responsibility for it.
This is like seeing a giant hole in the ground and just jumping into it because someone on the internet told you there was a candy kingdom down there. But you are just too lazy to look first.
Are you stupid? That isn't the part I was addressing. I was showing how when a woman tricks a man and the man doesn't go for it, he is scum and she is held as a great beacon of justice revealing the shallowness of the patriarchy.
When a man tricks a woman using the same methods as the previous experiment, he is scum and she is an innocent victim who had no way of knowing that people tell lies on the internet
That literarly what a retarded cunt would say. That fucking argument gave me cancer
Smart people take advantage of stupid people constantly, it's how the world fucking works.
If women weren't such drama queens, they'd just count this as a regrettable stupid thing they did, forget it and be more careful next time.
>agreeing to blindfold sex
it's not like there weren't any MAJOR RED FLAGS
Jesus Christ, read your analogy again. You're a spastic. Again, not seeing the dude was the whole fucking point.
Did the woman in the fat suit tie up and fuck the men who were expecting a thin girl? No? Then it's not comparable.
I guess it's fine to rape mentally disabled people then. You know, cuz you're smarter than them. It's their fault for not being as smart as you. Why is /r9k/ so retarded?
but yeah just because the other person is retarded it doesnt mean it's not a scam. people that call you telling you you won the lottery but you have to pay 300$ first are committing a crime too. if you fall for it you ARE retard but that does not make what the scammer did legal.
ikr. I don't even know why is it called "common sense" since apparantly it is rare as fuck. Almost as rare as this pepe
But you were talking to one and the same man all along. He just gave them a picture that isn't him.
At any point before and during the sex, and even before giving consent, the women could have made sure it wasn't a 70 year old man. Nothing stopped them. He never forced them to do anything, he never disagreed to do something.
I'm going to assume you're pretending to be retarded because that's what robots do when they stray from their home board.
>Removing all doubt that you're a dumb frogposting robot that hates women
Ya blew it.
You have no solid argument and can't take the truth AND you want me to take you seriously?! top kek
this reminds me of a similar story. i can't remember the details of where it happened but it was like 7? years ago at least.
>some grown man convinces some tweens to try his new make up product
>shows these two girls pictures of women with his "product" splattered all over their face
>promises it'll help moisturize and their face and all that shit
>tells them he hasn't patented it yet, and application process is secret, he needs to blind fold them
>proceeds to blond fold them and jacks off onto their faces
>never touched them
>they never saw him do it
i'm sure they charged him for something, but for what?
Nothing that was said was logical. They thought they were giving consent to a model, when they received sex from someone that wasn't that model, then it becomes rape.
I'm not defending the women. I'm calling out retards for being retards. I don't like retards.
nah, i'm not saying the guy did something right, i'm saying this same thing happens in our daily lives in hidden ways aswell.
if the old dude posted a picture of himself when he was 20 and good looking it would STILL be false advertisiment but it still would be him, completly destroying the foundation of your argument.
>I'm not defending the women. I'm calling out retards for being retards. I don't like retards.
Except for that retarded woman. She is an exception. Because she is a woman I'd guess
>Nothing that was said was logical. They thought they were giving consent to a model, when they received sex from someone that wasn't that model, then it becomes rape.
They didn't check who it was at any point. They gave consent to a mystery person. If it was a model with long red hair (still not the person in the image), they would not have complained.
The reason they're screaming rape is because they're displeased with the mystery person they got sex with. They damn well knew it wouldn't be the model, otherwise they would've looked at the person at all before sex.
>close my eyes
>walk into a random store
>ask for sex
>woman says "yes, have sex with me! I am a young model"
>don't open eyes
>fuck her in the ass
>open eyes after fucking her
>it's an old fat woman
Makeup counts as deception. It's literally a mask, in which anything can hide underneath.
I've been raped on numerous occasions, being fooled to believe there was something pretty underneath the mask.
you said it was her consent because he wasn't the person she thought he was. if you think it still wouldn't be ok if he posted a picture of himself when he was 20 you are contradicting yourself. because that would still be him and not someone else.
Thats interesting point, too bad noone here is defending rape.
>They gave consent to a mystery person
No, they gave consent to the 20 year old model. If they knew it wouldn't be the model, then they wouldn't have done it.
>women are ok with being raped if the rapist is good looking
This is why I was able to dismiss you by simply calling you a robot. Robots are more irrational than women. There's a reason /r9k/ is so universally hated.
>Another retarded analogy
>It's an actual case of rape that disproves the point you're trying to make
Yes, your analogy would be rape. You dunce.
English isn't your first language, is it?
Let me guess "Because nobody was raped", right?
What the fuck are you babbling about?
>It's trolling if I don't agree with it
I see, you're a /v/irgin. Easily confused with a robot, my mistake.
No. Same reason you couldn't sell a run down, rust bucket of a car that didn't work by placing an ad featuring the car when it was brand new and just rolled off the lot.
>No. Same reason you couldn't sell a run down, rust bucket of a car that didn't work by placing an ad featuring the car when it was brand new and just rolled off the lot.
But it's legal to do that. People will come and look at the car and see that it's old now, and not buy it.
If someone buys a car without looking at it, is it fraud if it's not what he expected it to be?
So if you buy something and then later find out this is not what you thought it was, you were scammed, right? If you have sex with someone and then find out this person is not who you thought he or she was, was it rape?
Let me guess you are still going on how she was raped. after she searched online for sex and AGREED to get blindfolded
I am not saying he is right, I am saying she is a retarded cunt
>People have kinks
Stop the fucking presses
It's not legal. I don't see why you're adding that the person comes and looks at the car, when that's exactly what would differentiate that from the case in hand. I don't know what it is with 4chan but this place is fucking retarded with analogies.
>If you have sex with someone and then find out this person is not who you thought he or she was, was it rape?
Yes. If you mean that they literally aren't who you thought they were, not "I thought they liked sausages but they were actually vegetarian".
>It's not legal. I don't see why you're adding that the person comes and looks at the car, when that's exactly what would differentiate that from the case in hand. I don't know what it is with 4chan but this place is fucking retarded with analogies.
If the person comes inspect the car blindfolded to see if it really is the one he ordered, and doesn't take the blindfold off until after he bought it, was it fraud?
You realise that that's a different person than the one who has been replying to multiple posts at the same time, right? You're not that retarded, are you?
What did I just say about these analogies? Re-read what you just wrote and reflect on yourself. Your bitterness towards women is clouding your ability to think. That's worrying.
>Yes. If you mean that they literally aren't who you thought they were, not "I thought they liked sausages but they were actually vegetarian".
by literally you mean the legal person and not the image the victim has of that person right?
If I agree to have sex with a woman who showed me a picture of a model online, and I agree to show up to her house blindfolded and have sex without taking it off, then do so, and afterwards it turns out the woman wasn't actually the model, was it rape?
Indeed it was a different person and I fucking hate you both.
>Your bitterness towards women is clouding your ability to think.
Each expirience with women so far has taught me what useless pieces of shit they are. That is fucking worrying.
Sorry m8, I don't have all the answers to your mental gymnastics. You can find out for yourself, if you'd like.
>Each expirience with women so far has taught me what useless pieces of shit they are.
Wow, I was right about it being a bitter, virgin, robot that hates women. How surprising!
What the fuck are you talking about? I've asked you about a surprise rape case. You've been talking about surprise rape here and seem fairly confident in the topic.
Or is surprise rape somehow not valid because I'm a cis male? Is it somehow funny to you? "Not real"?
As long as noone proves me wrong. yes.
You can do better than this. Your shitposting would work better if I hadn't already stated outright that it would be rape if it happened to you. Dunce.
Why don't you just start posting frogs and be done with it?
I'm trying not to have an anxiety attack because of how fucking insensible you are about this topic. Did it never occur to you that people might've been surprise raped in this thread?
Did, all owned you.
Being a retard and then blaming other for your stupidity doesn't make them guilty.
go be sjw somewhere else
How about you get off my /fit/, you fucking autist with your /v/ /r9k/ and whatever the fuck else you mentioned
I take that as a no.
>Now you have my permission to die
>tell people to re-evaluate their lives
Or they could stop being lesser human beings but nah, shitposting is easyer
shoulda knew that was coming
posted twice. Are you afraid Ichigo? I am sure your rolls are pretty. You know beauty al all sizes
I just came here and read all the above posts.
Actually, I think the 65-y/o man is based and would give him an high-five.
He knew women are dumb whores and played around that fact.
>muh 50 shades of grey fantasy
Calling rape and charging the guy is their psychological self-defense mechanism, so they dont have to admit how fucking stupid, vapid, shallow, worthless piece of shit they are.
I'm 24 and fucked approx 80 women for now, nice try fgt.
I still find women worthless and inferior to men. I think I know them pretty well now by experience.
It's beta virgins that idolizes them, try to be nice, hopefully getting sex in return. These are the daily viewers of Kaceytron or <insert some dumb twitchTV gamer whore>. They even throw money at them to get attention. Pathetic.
Like some guy stated above, women are worthless but they are also entitled and arrogant just because beta virgins give them credits and attention they dont deserve.
One day you'll see the light my friend.
http://www . theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth
yeah, what we're doing isn't working but we should just keep doing it because it's the 'only solution', despite the fact that signs show that it exacerbates the problem rather than resolving it