>>34415120 Because the squat is the single most difficult exercise to get right and I tell you nearly everyone has fucking shit form on it, doing a solid correct high bar squat is nearly impossible for the average gym goer because it requires way more stretching, time and overall commitment than any other exercise. There are way better exercises if you want your legs to look good or be strong.
>>34415120 I have super long legs. I'm only 6'3 but my thighs are unporportionally long. Whenever is squat it's too hard to punch my butt back and keep my knees from going forward. I'm thinking about switching to Olympic high bar or front squats. Both are said to be better fore people like me.
>>34415120 For me there was one single point where I went from hating squats to loving Them. One day like 4 months into SS there was this one rep that made me feel really good and ever since then I've just been hooked.
My arms aren't flexible enough to get the bar into lowbar position (I basically support some of the weight with my wrists and elbows, hurts like hell) and high bar feels very uncomfortable on my traps.
because having a large amount of weight sitting on your spine is literally retarded. anyone with any idea of how the spine functions and how over time youre causing yourself to shrink further than gravity is already shrinking you would stop inmediately, but then again the internet says otherwise.
>>34415856 >tfw buttwink when slightly above parallel My back is hurting right now from my babyweight squats a couple days ago (27.5 lb per side; only been squatting for q month) and I already need to temporarily stop to work on my flexibility. Guess I won't be hitting lmao1pl8 for 5x5 in two weeks after all.
>>34415506 So true about the stretching. I think people go in, do quarter squats, get tight knees from lifting way to heavy and 0 mobility. I know this because I use to be this person. The day I discovered doing mobility religiously was the day my quality of life improved 10 fold.
Is replacing squats with Romanian deadlifts or leg presses a legitimate solution? I just ordered a home gym and I'm not confident in my form. Also, OHP is very initimidating to me, is it as hard as it seems or should I do it? Is there a easier replacement to it?
I'm seriously considering toning down the amount of squats I do/the weight I do because of the size of my arse. Lifting ~9 months now and my upper body is starting to catch up my lower body, but my bum just wont stop growing.
>>34417840 Nothing too terrible. Hiatal Hernia and I am pretty inflexible but no significant scoliosis or atrophy. I really don't care if I'm a pussy or not. I just have had back problems in the past and I don't want them again. Bad form will give me back problems.
My gym's pretty good for form on squats. It's noticeable when someone comes in and has bad form. Most people get at least very close to parallel.
On a related note I've never seen a vid or explanation for lowbar which says any cue to use to feel that you are below parallel.
I've been trying to get lower recently, and find that below a certain point you start to get the feeling like you're trying to sit down but you've missed the chair (requires ham and glutes to rise from here). Does this sound about right?
>>34417630 There is a couple of people at my gym besides me who squat. Most are around one plate with quarter rom. The only one who does 3 plate like me is basically doing a good morning, and he is a manlet. I try to go atg, but it starts to break down around 3 plate, and i am scared of dying, so i only go to parallel. My point is, i would rather see someone do one plate correctly than 3 plates with shit form.
>>34415895 Dont use a wider stance. Just stand how you feel neutral. You should be squatting like you want to comfortably take a shit. Lowbar doesnt allow this but with highbar and a neautral stance you will be good.
>>34416815 Nice troll mate. Leg press is terrible for strength, calf raises are a waste of fucking time and your calves are mostly going to be made up by your genetics, and romanian deadlifts are good, but not better than a squat.
>>34418272 Just keep working on it. I saw a guy in the gym benching 2pl8 for reps but struggling to quarter squat 1pl8. Most people in the gym have very weak legs and will actually be impressed. Dont let estaters on /fit/ fool you.
>>34418272 Do you have a photo of your ideal body? You might not have to do squats at all if you're going for ottermode or some shit. If you do need legs just do the fucking squats, nobody pays attention to how much weight you're lifting.
>>34415120 I watched this fucking goofy DYEL in a Bodybuilding.com shirt do 2 1/2 pl8, like 1/8th squats today. I don't even know why he was holding his breath and breathing out when he came "up." Not like he fucking went remotely low enough for his core to come into play. He also had a brace and each knee.
Why is the squat rack the fucking lighthouse of stupid guiding fuckwits safely through the gym into it's retarded harbor? Why are people so concerned with putting far more weight than they can do then doing at most a fourth of the motion? Why do they look at the rack and think it's a place to curl, shrug, and do bad rows on? What the fuck is the point of half assing the exercise? I fucking hate my gym.
>>34418302 Those people are stupit. Lifting heavy will eventually lead to mass. Strength equals muscle. Those people will never be as big as a powerlifter, and they will not be as big as a body builder without roids.
>>34416061 The human spine can support far more than your faggot ass can lift. If you were squating 800 or more pounds you would be correct, but 3 or 4 hundred with decent form wont hurt you. Jusy remember, you can slip a disc lifting 5 pounds with shit form, or you can have a healthy back as an old man while squating 5 plate with impeccable form.
It's because the muscles in our legs are much bigger. Working them is more exerting. You can feel the burn way more than many other exercises.
But you can't get a nice butt without squating. I'm surprised at how little the squat rack gets used at my new gym. The university one had line ups and now I'll be lucky if I see one other person squating every 2 weeks.
>today was leg day >so keen to pump out a great session, make serious gains, get PBs >jump onto squats after stretching >sets of bar>40>60>70>80 for warmup >go to 100, do 4 reps (new rep PB at 100) >decide to go further and break my 1RM >go to 110, no problems, 2 reps at previous 1rm >feels great man >go to 120, feeling bold >do an almost rep (2 inches above parallel) >do it again >jump back down to 100, decide to do 5 more sets at 100 and then go further down in weight
now heres where bullshit begins
>first rep at 100, left knee clicks and gives near the bottom of my squat, i drop bar backwards instantly to avoid damage >luckily there are safeties so i dont humiliate myself with loud noise >pissed as fuck, what the fuck is this shit >lower weight to 60, raise bar back up >put back to 100, do two reps >knee feels like when i crack open the drumstick's bone using teeth
>cant do squats
MOVE ONTO HAMSTRINGS THEN FUCK
>go to seated hamstring curl >warmup, no problems
>go onto higher weight >going pretty good at 10 plates (cable plates not weight plates) down per leg >11 is alright >start doing 12 with left leg, no problems, manage to get 7 reps >then move onto right leg >at 2nd rep tendon fucks and clicks on the inner side of knee >tight as fuck, can barely move leg up and feels like theres a dull plastic rod in my knee now
OK THEN LETS GO DO DEADLIFTS THEN FUCK
>try raising 20 bar, nope hips are burning as fuck from squats, feels like sandpaper between joints grinding my nerves
>go to standing calf raise >only leg excersise i can do without injury >leave after 6 sets cause PISSED OFF
FUCK MAN WHAT THE FUCK
TODAY WAS MEANT TO BE A GLORIOUS SESSION OF REPPING 100 INSTEAD I HAVE PRODUCED A FUCKING PHYSIO APPOINTMENT
>>34422375 This. Back off sets are tricky for exactly the reason you found... You're weaker than you anticipate and form breaks down. Also, some muscles, once failed, don't seem to come back right away. > setting new PR on dl. On rep 3 bar strips out of hand, grip failed. Backed off 20 lb, try again, can't even get a single. Grip is completely effed.
>>34415120 personal reasons for disliking squatting >horrible hip/leg flexibility leads to poor form and getting injured >weak as shit so my squat is terrible (no for real it's bad) >I don't really want my legs to get huge since I like wearing skinny jeans >uses a lot of energy making the rest of the workout medicore
>>34417180 Poor hip flexibility causes you to round your back when you get into a full squat. Its generally overstated as a problem. If you feel pain, not in the muscles of the lower back but in the spine, you definitely need to stop squatting so low and work on flexibility, which you should be doing anyways.
Why the fuck does my college gym, with a population of 30,000, have only three fucking power racks? We have zero squat racks.Meanwhile we have like 100 different kinds of cardio machines and three THREE cable rack useless shits (I have no idea what they are called but you basically have a bar on a fixed path up and down).
>>34427060 hey buddy im a different anon just wanted to let you know you fell for some bait but dont worry it happens to the best of us You may be thinking...what now? now you just need to try and live your life to the fullest extend possible, know that you will never make a full recovery buttest your limits anon, godspeed
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