Do you guys eat meat
Let's get some discusion going, we can all learn from it.
I guess i can start
I personally don't eat meat or eggs for environmental and ethical reasons. I take a vitamin B pill with 7 different B-vitamins to compensate for the vitamins i would have gotten from the meat.I feel a lot better with almost no saturated fats in my system :)
Went vegetarian a few months ago, and i reccomend it greatly
For dem macros.
Also I only eat freerange homegrown meat and veggies cuz i live in a rural area and its easier to get and allround better than packaged
I eat meat because I enjoy meat, and I enjoy cooking with meat.
Not really. I can make homemade teryaki chicken for probably less then $2 (including rice) Its super cheap and satisfying.
Honestly, I really don't approve of the conditions livestock is kept in. I try my best to pay more for product that is proven to treat their animals with a bit more care. When I can afford too that is.
But for sure, I am grateful to every animal that has, beyond its own will, made me who I am today physically. I am strong, I am fast, I have energy to spare. However, I wouldn't be half the man I am today without every chicken, cow, pig, deer, kangaroo once, and so on. I won't say I regret their deaths, I respect the fact they died, and through that death donated unto me a little more strength.
So I will continue to live strong, without drugs or alcohol. With effort and exercise, in order to preserve the body that was built on the deaths of these creatures.
"I don't eat meat" is just code for "good bye gains".
I'm trying really hard to respect that but you sound like a huge pussy when you say that stuff. I just don't get it, I was raised by a father who hunts a lot so I guess that's just not my thing
>I don't approve of the conditions livestock is kept in
>unless I don't want to spend too much, then fuck the animals
>I am very spiritual, I say a prayer before every bite of chicken
>I feign respect for my victims so I can continue being an asshole without feeling like one
yes, chicken, ground beef and salmon mostly
I know it's awful for the environment and not very ethical or healthy but I just don't care about those issues enough to stop eating it
I'd only really go vegetarian for moral or ethical reasons not necessarily for any hullabaloo about the environment or other nonsense.
That said, my tastebuds and conscience have agreed that meat is delicious and as long as the death is quick I can eat guilt free.
I ate it because we're omnivorous no matter what anyone says. I also love, really love, the taste of meat.
It's simple as that. I ate eggs when I want to eat eggs, I eat meat when I want to eat meat, i eat veggies when I want to eat veggies. I really have no allergies nor weird diseases and can enjoy everything I want to eat.
And before you say "murder" I don't give a fuck, if I were on a mountain and had to kill you in order to survive I'd fucking do it without hesitation.
Why even eat more than a tiny amount of meat when
20g of protein in a 50p can of baked beans.
I don't make a lot of money, so sometimes I don't have a choice.
I don't pray for anything, and am not the least bit spiritual. I respect the food I eat, because I'm grateful to have it.
That's fine. I stand by what I said. If people think I am a huge pussy because of it, then its cool. I can only be who I am
I'm cutting down on meat, not because it's bad or anything, but because I enjoy it too much, I'm actively avoiding the foods I enjoy too much since I gorge myself on them when I get going, once I start bulking it's gonna be good mang.
Maybe once every 2 months.
Might as well say no.
- Smells disgusting
- Looks disgusting
- Tastes disgusting (the only one that tasted good was lean/boneless chicken breasts)
- Meat and dairy give me acne (skin is always clear without them; something always goes wrong after consuming either of them)
- I get my protein from egg (whites) and whey
- I can supplement essentials
How is this /fit/ related again?
How are vegan threads accepted every single fucking day while we cannot for the life of us have a high test thread?
I mean, if fucking veganism is related to fitness (despite it all being a meme) then how can't fucking women be related to fitness?
Having sex is literally exercise, mods are fucking cucks.
We have fucking vegan threads every single fucking day and at least 3 of them, while they have literally nothing to do with fitness what so ever.
Every vegan thread can be summed up as: ''HURRR HURRRRRRRRRRRRRR ANIMALS R SUFFERING PLS STOP EATING MEAT''
It has absolutely nothing to do with being healthy or fit, it is just stupid fucking ideologies being forced upon people who don't give a shit.
I swear, you /fit/ mods are the fucking worst.
>be borderline vegan
>still deadlift more than the vast majority of /fit/
>being a flip flopper who doesn't commit one way or the other
>lying on the internet
Dont eat meat, haven't eaten for a year and so far it's been great. Energy levels have gone up, gotten leaner while gaining some mass. Generally feeling awesome. Also learned that I love cooking.
nahhhhh. It was more like there wasn't enough of anything per day to fill my macros and caloric intake.
Korean food is delicious, most of their dishes are purely just vegetables. But smelling the korean bbq made me hungry.
Cook beans correctly.
Soak in water for 24-48hrs, replace water. Then boil for 10 minutes. Then medium heat until they're very soft.
Eat with sweet potatoes because you want soluble fiber with insoluble fiber. Add 1 forkful raw sauerkraut with each meal.
Chickpeas and lentils are even better for digestion.And lentils are literally the cheapest source for protein. It's a few bucks for 200g protein where I buy them.
Do you think it's even marginally difficult to avoid nitrites and nitrate additives?
Do any worthwhile institutes tell you red meat and cancer are directly linked? Most tell you it is okay to eat sparingly, especially if you remove processed meat, charred food, or meat with excessive additives from your choices. And if you bump up your consumption from factory farmed meat to wild game (or other healthily raised animals), then even better. Meat itself isn't going to give you cancer. "Red meat" is not the devil here if you do it properly. The 'red meat is cancer' crowd is as bad as the 'vaccines make you sick' crowd.
went vegan for a year
lost all gains
looked like shit
did more research, realized it's literally retarded and there are people surviving off of nothing but meat in the arctic
realized gelatin and organs are most important part of animal
feel great, got gains back, dgaf about morality
50g of protein for what equates to a £2.50 meal.
I know it's related to nutrition which is important in lifting, but these threads go beyond it with so many people spewing their vegan propaganda trying to guilt trip people and everyone else circlejerking "lol fuckin vegans".
>- Tastes disgusting (the only one that tasted good was lean/boneless chicken breasts)
What the fuck anon
broscience please leave
>Eating foods that contain saturated fats raises the level of cholesterol in your blood. High levels of LDL cholesterol in your blood increase your risk of heart disease and stroke.
Saturated fats also raise HDL. Also the ldl that is raised by saturated fat is the large fluffy type that is harmless. Finally overall cholesterol levels are near irrelevant in determining heart disease factors, what's important are triglycerides hdl:ldl ratios and the ratios of large fluffy ldl: to small dense ldl. But if you had a brain and did the research instead of pirating guidelines that have actively increased the amount of chronic diseases instead of lowering them since they were implemented you would know that. You do realize that Cocoa Puffs and other sugary cereals are approved by the American Heart Association right? Come back to me when you have studied the clinical trials/randomized controlled trials from the 21st century. Thank you
>Saturated fats also raise HDL
Barely. It raises LDL disproportionately higher.
>Also the ldl that is raised by saturated fat is the large fluffy type that is harmless
Large LDL isn't harmless. People promoting unhealthy diets that raise LDL made this up to excuse the fact that their shitty diets raise LDL.
>Finally overall cholesterol levels are near irrelevant in determining heart disease factors, what's important are triglycerides hdl:ldl ratios and the ratios of large fluffy ldl: to small dense ldl.
The main risk factor is elevated LDL cholesterol. There's no getting around that.
>But if you had a brain and did the research
If your idea of research is reading conspiracies and crackpot theories on low carb blogs, leave the research to the experts
> pirating guidelines that have actively increased the amount of chronic diseases instead of lowering them since they were implemented
I can shut down the "everything went wrong because people started following diet guidelines" conspiracy simply by pointing out that the guidelines told people to reduce their sugar intake. The majority didn't follow the guidelines, they just eat what's tasty, cheap, and convenient. The people who do follow the guidelines live longer, healthier lives
>You do realize that Cocoa Puffs and other sugary cereals are approved by the American Heart Association right?
Substantiate that accusation
Here's a page from the AHA on sugar and sugar cereals
They say added sugars, including from "ready-to-eat cereals" raise your risk of heart disease, though sugars in fresh fruits don't. Where are they telling us to eat cocoa puffs?
Don't care about killing animals so yes I love eating meat. Might is right and we're at the top of the food chain.
If I told myself it's unethical to eat meat I'd have to go telling all those carnivores in the animal kingdom to stop being so inhumane and eating other animals alive
Morals don't matter when it comes to hunting other animals it's the will to survive and thrive that matters
Stay weak vegan fags
I can confirm this, my food bill went way down from omni to vegetarian, then down from vegetarian to vegan. There's a reason that poorer parts of the world eat rice and beans and not Philly Cheesesteaks
It's not immoral for the strong to conquer the weak. I think colonilization, and war to gain more land and resources is perfectly fine too. Darwinism and survival of the fittest
I think what's bad and should be punished with death and not reproducing is being purposefully weak because of some "moral dilemma" you have, which is what's happening to a lot of white countries and certainly to these vegans, or at least if they do reproduce they produce weak offspring which have even less chances of reproducing
Sad to see people offing themselves but they'll either learn or they won't
Nature knows not of mercy, to pray is to accept defeat
I can picture you walking around stepping on caterpillars just to prove to yourself you're a big tough guy. I have more respect for a strong guy who uses his strength to protect those weaker than him over some bully with masculinity issues.
Most veggies are shit without seasoning, and virtually every legume and grain is. If your point is that meat is bad because it's not delicious without doctoring them veganism is even worse you dumb fuck. You have no point, just stop.
mostly vegetarian for like 3-4 years
mostly vegan for 2-3 months
Feel way better, PR consistently.
Every diet is easy to fuck up if you're a dipshit. People posting about X or X is impossible vegetarian are no better than rhinos talking not being able to lose weight when they "only eat salad"
I studied anthropology in my undergrad, and I can attest that there is thorough evidence that humans are evolutionary predisposed to eat high meat diets. Look up the Expensive Tissue Hypothesis; it's actually a pretty interesting read. Basically, we traded the length of our guts for our brains, and so on.
I'm not militantly opposed to people going veg for ethical reasons, but the health arguments are fucked. Also, even the ethical arguments seem like a borderline clinically psychotic system of priorities, given the great deal of human suffering out there in this chaotic universe of ours.
You dumb Fuck trying to seem intelligent. We have an extremely long and pocketed digestive system indicative of plant eaters. Pure carnivores, like cats, have extremely short and smooth digestive tracts. Perfect for digestion of meat only with no nooks for plaque to accumulate. So you're actually the opposite of right on that one. With regard to health is common knowledge that for heart disease plus many more diseases it goes vegan>veg>meat. Meat Eaters have way more heart attacks and blood pressure issues. Also, with regard to ethics you're equally as inane. Why not minimize suffering if possible? Animals are living, feeling entities just like you are me. Why kill and eat them after making them live a short life in horrid conditions if you have other options that are healthier. You are stupid as fuck. I'm a meat eater btw.
> I can attest that there is thorough evidence that humans are evolutionary predisposed to eat high meat diets
The problem with using anthropology to make statements on diet and health is that it's contradicted by the actual study of diet and health, which as all major health institutions agree, points to a diet centered around plant foods and low in meat being a healthier way to eat.
Here's a pretty simple argument to disprove that we're designed by evolution to eat meat. Every animal that we would call a natural meat eater, if fed saturated fat and cholesterol, sees no rise in their blood levels of cholesterol. Humans on the other hand, like rabbits and monkeys, do see a rise. This rise can eventually lead to atherosclerosis. This doesn't happen to truly carnivorous animals, so while anthropology clearly shows that humans have historically eaten meat, and in some cases a lot of meat, actually looking at what it does to our health shows us that we didn't evolve in a way that would have allowed meat to be a healthy long-term food source. When degenerative diseases typically occur past 40 years of age and the typical reproductive age is closer to 20, selection pressures may not be strong enough to influence the evolution of the species in that way. What's most important is basic survival, and simply finding enough calories, regardless of the source (unless it's immediately toxic), is good enough to allow survival.
a) The evolutionary trajectory from apes to humans tells a compelling story that meat eating is literally as old as humans, and that' we're predisposed toward it. Gorillas sit around eating leafs for hours each day; we don't have to do that.
b) Concerning health, the problems you're talking about stem from abundance and overconsumption, and not meat itself. Meat eaters in (various) indigenous societies are healthy as fuck, by just about every metric, and they would laugh at the idea of dropping meat from their diets.
c) Ethically, I'm likewise opposed to industrial farming, but IMO life is too short to get all butthurt over eating animals, when there's much more pressing human suffering out there. You do whatever the fuck you want on a personal level, but the various veg movements out there strike me as a remarkable waste of efforts and activist/political capital.
You seem on edge, bruh. Is everything okay?
I eat pretty much only chicken and turkey. On the odd occasion I will eat red meat. Any ways, meat has good macros and not to mention it tastes great.
>Gorillas sit around eating leafs for hours each day; we don't have to do that.
For a number of reasons. What you attribute to meat could be attributed more broadly to cooked food. Humans also evolved to have extra copies of a gene (AMY1) that helps us produce more starch digesting enzymes, which were another major food source for humans, and later became the backbone of all civilization.
>Concerning health, the problems you're talking about stem from abundance and overconsumption, and not meat itself.
What do you mean by that? It's a vague argument to say "it's not bad for you, just eating too much is bad." What's the level at which it shows no harmful effects?
>Meat eaters in (various) indigenous societies are healthy as fuck, by just about every metric, and they would laugh at the idea of dropping meat from their diets.
What people in particular are you talking about and what's their life expectancy like?
I would not eat meat if I could, however i have tried several times and I can tell you at least I can't do it.
The first symptoms are non-stop thoughts about meat, then weakness and aching, and eventually hallucinations and nightmares of aztec gods laughing at my diminishing gains.
(record so far has been three and a half weeks with no meat, not doing that again though)
>97% bioavailability (unlike shitty vegan food)
BV is like less than 75%. You'd be better off eating and drinking soy.
Yes, of course. I follow a moderate- to low-carb diet, and meat is my primary source of protein. I'm including fish and other seafood as well, since people categorize it separately from meat.
Why? Because it tastes good and is a great source of protein. And some types of seafood are both sustainable and king-of-the-gods-tier if you want to increase your omega-3 intake. Sustainability and ethics are issues for some types of meat, but it depends highly on the environment they're raised in. As for health concerns, they're mostly exaggerated. Maybe in Texas people eat two pounds of steak every day, but for the rest of us who don't eat red meat too often, it's not a big deal. Same with meats cured with nitrites, such as salami. It's not good for you, but in moderation you'll be fine.
However, I also eat tofu, eggs, cheese, and sometimes supplement with protein powder. I actually bought some high-protein, high-fibre flatbreads which have a significant amount of protein, too, and they taste like regular flatbreads.
Most hunters respect their game and support conservation of their habitat so that the cycle of life can continue. If your dad is just "hurr time to kill durr." then I couldn't give less of a shit what he thinks.