Why is it that hipsters/"artists" are never fit and typically have shit-tier bodies?
My school is in the same city as a lot of really liberal artsy schools and I see these fuckers standing on the street smoking cigarettes in their ridiculous clothes all the time and none of them are ever in shape. I didn't notice this until I started taking lifting seriously about a year ago.
Is anyone here /art/hip/ and /fit/?
Because there's literally no point in going to the gym for most of them. Exercising is objectively good for you, but /fit/ needs to realize that weightlifting is just a hobby,and one that's looked down as trashy and low class by many people, which isn't the aesthetic they're going for.
Ian McCall doesn't have a shit tier body and he'll definitely fuck you up before enjoying a craft beer while listening to his phonograph.
Because they often have mental problems related to self-loathing and masquerade those by adopting a persona from said urban tribes.
Instead of using their insatisfaction to improve, they collapse inside and pretend to be something else with the other kids. That's also why they have typically leftist political views, because they are more sympathetic to "losers" than about improving and quitting being one like us based fascists.
A lot of pseudopsychology here.You could just as easily say the majority of /fit/ are just losers who improve their bodies so they can pretend to be manly.
> quitting being one like us based fascists.
Every fascist government was a loser in the end, you do realize this?
Hipsters are by definition left wingers. More testosterone and higher physical strength directly correlates with more right wing political views.
>Every fascist government was a loser in the end, you do realize this?
Kek, good point
'Faggoty' democracies survive decades and centuries and grow wealthy and never go to war against one another, living in peace and prosperity.
Fascist nations always implode and their peoples suffer terribly from war and subsequent poverty. Naturally, they immediately switch to democracy ASAP to get on a sustainable gain train.
In short, if you're a fascist, you're still in high school and have more testosterone than brains.
/fit/zens improve to *become* manly, not to pretend.
And fascist governments just started "losing" recently with rise of democracy. I use "" because the beautiful democracies people like so much are merely better disguised fascist empires.
Art History "student"; I have a real job, with career opurtunity. I just study as a hobby, and well fuck it, my dream is to be a gallerist.
a lot of the guys i study with do work out. Thought most of them do "lifting for girls" type programs, so you'll have a lot of skinny ripped guys and such, not so much power lifting. Ofc, most of the students aren't ripped, but isn't it pretty much that way no matter what you study?
Also the girl to boy ratio here is amazing, probably like 70% girls and most of them are insanely hot and cute hipster chicks, and when you dress hipster - esq yourself and share interests etc (since you're studying the same thing) it's way esier to close them. Almost worth studying art just because of the girls. Also Fashion > Body, dressing well is more important than your body to get girls, most of the time people can't even tell you lift.
used to be hipster here
the bigger i got, the more bizarre the clothing looked on me.
proportions play a big part in aesthetics and most of the hipster clothes/styles are very slim fitting. any sort of size and you look like some meat head trying to show off his muscles.
difficult to look hipster if you have broad shoulders. goes against being a liberal wimpy puss
Why is it that op is a hipster, and probably has a man bun, Oh it's because being a hipster is mainstream now.
Also this isint as bad as this
>/fit/zens improve to *become* manly, not to pretend.
Yet it obviously doesn't work, given all the insecurity here. /fit/ is just /r9k/ with muscles, it's a costume just like hipsters.
>And fascist governments just started "losing" recently with rise of democracy.
What? Democracy came first. It started earlier, survived fascism and emerged even more powerful. Fascism was popular in Spain, Italy, Germany, Chile and presence in some Eastern European countries. And all of those countries had radically different systems, especially Germany. And now it's gone. The flame that burns twice as bright, eh? Interesting how an ideology that glorified masculinity and war got it's shit rekt by the supposedly "feminine" democracies, or faggoty communists. Fascism is an ideology for losers.
>tfw I'm starting to grow out a man bun
I hope the 4 months of painful in-between is worth it
>Some people look good in anything
This isn't really true. There's very few people that actually look good in everything, regardless of body type. Most people who look like they "don't care" actually do put a lot of effort into their appearance.
Thankfully I don't care that much about fashion and what's in. I'm just curious how I'd look with one and if I'd personally like it more
I mean I wear fuckin' cargo shorts everywhere, clearly fashion ain't hugely important to me
Because art is literally a feminine profession. It's all about expressing the rich, intense emotions that are bursting out of your chest and in order to do that you need a minimum level of emotion-boosting estrogen. Manly men with healthy male physiques have dull, simple emotions that are more cut for problem solving and leadership than for empathy and artistic expression.
It's the reason why there's actually been quite a few women in fine arts throughout history, the reason why so ridiculously few male artists have good physiques, and the reason why artists are so leftist (the latter because American democrat politics are feminine whereas republican politics are masculine).
I've been into art and music since I was a kid and got into weightlifting and bodybuilding when I was in my early 20's.
I'd say the main reason hipsters, artists and musicians and such don't work out or do sports is because you have to hang out with lazy pretentious people all the time smoking cigarettes, drinking, doing drugs and shit.
Also art and music or whatever are very, very time consuming hobbies and when you get the inspiration, you'll be buried in your work all day, even days, barely eating and sleeping and just working on your shit. Most artists and such that you see are in a terrible shape because of that.
Then there are the shut ins who just want to work out, paint and shitpost all day like me, while maintaining a relatively healthy lifestyle away from the pretentious fucks that the art world comprises of. The shitty side of that is that you'll never hear about upcoming shows and events and shit so your work will seldom be seen by anybody.
>Because art is literally a feminine profession.
99.7% of the greatest and most celebrated artists in history are men. Your brain must be the product of a very *very* specific milieu to think that way.
Correlation does not equal causation you stupid fuck.
This is a terrible article. Makes broad claims, doesn't provide the article for reference, written by the daily mail...
Consider self-termination at a later date
I like man buns
>implying the greatest artists in history were not men
>implying great leader didn't have a big interest in art/weren't artists themselves
Yeah good b8 m8
This is what I'd like to know. Apparently, dudes ascend all the way to the very top of art whereas girls stay in the bottom of the barrel. That, or art schools being chock full of girls only happened after feminism.
>the latter because American democrat politics are feminine whereas republican politics are masculine
>buying into the ZOG's democrat vs republican dichotomy
yes, nothing is more masculine than deep throating israeli cock and selling out your constituents to the military-judeo complex with relentless deficit spending.
I'm pretty much the typical hipster archtype: design student, barista, beard, man-bun, niche taste in everything
and i have a thousand pound total.
It's a good life, girls are fucking easy because they want the best of both worlds; they want someone interesting and intelligent but they primally want a strong fit guy.
Women were not allowed to practice it for hundreds of years in many cultures. Only the rich and elite women were and it was only considered a pastime.
Many women went into theater or music and toured around. You don't hear of them because you don't bother to read up on the bullshit you spew.
Since we're on a weeaboo site why don't you go look up Japanese art history and theater. Plenty of women until the government decided ladies were too attractive and they couldn't have classes casually mixing in theaters and the like. Just one cultures example.
There's literally one man out of like a thousand that can successuflly pull off a man bun, but when one with the right facial aesthetics does... holy shitballs.
You have just revealed yourself to be a fantastically ignorant person, both in the fields of art history and of political history, regardless of your age. In fact, it's so stupendously ignorant that I can't even believe that you're sincere. You're a troll. You have to be. As a self-proclaimed fascist, even your own ideology's poster child, Adolf Hitler, was an aspiring artist and avid collector of fine art.
What's it like being this stupid? It's like you have no idea what you're talking about but are still trying to contribute to a conversation by spewing bullshit. Read a fucking book before you waste everyones time with your nonsense, moron.
I am an artist. I mostly got into weight lifting so I could model for myself. It's not just hipster/artist types its the culture we live in.
this. they don't want to do anything that anyone else is doing. lots of people hit the gym so naturally they avoid that.
plus, i think that subculture, with its veganism and emotive music, draws in gentler more sensitive men who correlate lifting with masculinity and aggression, which they disdain or are scared of.
Gym cool is generally seen as uncool and unfashionable. Someone might want to become /fit/ but refuse to step inside a gym because of the douche image. Marathons, triathlons, classes like Zumba and Crossfit, or even more exotic stuff like aerial silks are getting more and more popular. People will do any activity that doesn't require them to go near the compound weight section of the gym. Weightlifting has a serious image problem, unless you're going to a David Barton gym there's no point in most peoples' minds.
There is a strong link between leftist thinkers and physical weakness/laziness. This is why SJWs tend to be either women or effeminate males. There was a recent study that showed strong people are more likely to be on the political right.
It's nothing to do with not wanting to look muscular, they literally don't have the mindset to get a good physique even if they wanted it.
You're being really lazy with definitions.You can't group all lefts and all rightists into two distinct catagories. It's retarded to compare Leninists or Stalinists with modern progressivism. Similarly, conservatism is not the same as monarchism or fascism. It's even more confusing since conservative and liberal are relative terms, and depend on which country you're talking about. To say personality and political ideology are correlated, while just using left or right is just poor methodology.
Two tall gay dudes were travelling in the subway with me today, one of them had a hipster moustache along with a beard.
They were both fit, at least otter mode, and 6'2 or so
I still thought the moustache looked bad, but they were a cute couple anyways
>rts everywhere, clearly fashion ain't hugely important to me
this sounded exactly like something a redditor would say. the way you wrote it and the way you bragged about your cargo short fashion sense lmao
Reddit pls go
People with liberal opinions are also found to be more intelligent, and those with more "controlling" political opinions are less intelligent apparently (on both sides of the spectrum).
So that means if you're an authoritarian SJW you're most likely a retard just like most stormfags are.
Testosterone is also linked to more conservative values.
I'm "trying to sound smart" because I called you ignorant and noted that even fascist leaders collect art? I don't get it. Was that conceptually tough for you? Should I have broken those two clauses into separate sentences for you? At this point, I'm not even sure if you're in high school yet. How can you even read newspapers and magazines if you can't handle this post?
Anyway, like I said, if you're a fascist, you're probably still in high school and haven't lived a day in your life. It's like being a skater kid or a club kid. Don't worry, it'll pass soon enough.
Hipsters tend to be leftist, and men who are leftist are usually incredibly effeminate due to the high rates of estrogen in their girly bodies.
Most liberals are opposed to lifting because it requires effort and self discipline which they not only lack but find triggering as a concept.
They would rather vote for Obama and collect cuck porn than actually work on improving themselves because fitness is associated with triggering masculinity.
I said nothing about good or evil, I just find it ironic that when an ideology that openly states it's about masculinity and militarism tries to start shit with the rest of the world, they eventually get destroyed by the supposedly "feminine" ideologies of democracy and communism. Can corporatism work? Yeah, the nation's respective economies were jump started for a little. The militarism part was where they fucked up. If you piss off the whole world, don't be surprised when the whole world declares war against you.
>conflating fascism with any dictatorship/monarchy in history
I'd consider the corporatism part to be integral to fascism, while you could argue historical monarchies were corporatism in nature, as the crown/parliament/whatever had massive influence over the economy and companies themselves, fascist economics were certainly novel for the context they took place in. Also the super nationalistic policies aren't necessarily precedented in history
>Also the super nationalistic policies aren't necessarily precedented in history
Are you kidding me? From the 16th century onward it was all about the rise of national identity and the nation-state
Well yes, I know that all authoritarianism isn't fascism, but it was unclear if you meant fascism in the colloquial sense or the actual historical context. I t seems that you are one of the few who does understand the historical context.
But, earlier you said fasicism was popular in Chile. What Pinochet implemented was authoritarian capitalism. Aside from an authoritarian right wing economy his system didn't really function as fascism
As a musician, playing at a high level takes a lot of practice
So when I was first starting to get good I barely had time for anything else
Now I know what I'm doing a bit better and can focus on other things as well
As someone pointed out earlier:
>no sources cited
Also their methodology was garbage. Right wing was defined as being "self-interested," meaning less redistribution. Left wing was defined as support for a welfare state and more distribution.
1. Doesn't take into account any ideology other than generic conservatism or liberalism. Doesn't make any statement on how totalitarian/libertarian you want the government to be.
2. Ignores the fact that self-interest doesn't necessarily play a role in what kind of welfare system you want. Would a poor person who votes socialist be self-interested? They may want redistribution because it would benefit them. Or a huge corporation who votes for regulatory schemes in order screw over it's competitors.
not who you replied to, but thats only if you have a home gym. once you factor in travelling however far, having to eat beforehand if youve finished work or studies or whatever, it all adds up.
Many want to reject traditional notions of masculinity and so base their "courage" and rebelliousness on that, kinda like Frida Kahlo.
I'm just pulling shit out of my ass but maybe I nail it.
No that's their excuse.
At the end of the day, leftist dogs are weak and lazy and so they base their ideology on that.
You're putting the cart before the horse.
Well congratulations on sacrificing your health for your "craft"
I feel as though hipsters and bodybuilders come from the same place. A lot of people work out as a way of dealing with their problems, improving their social standing, and just being generally happier. Skinny and fat people who don't want to be lost in the background. People who don't like exercise do this by different means, like style. The hipster lifestyle is just one of many paths one of these people can take, and it's a particularly easy one too.
i went to the artsy school in my city and studied an artsy thing, and plan on continue doing that for my masters.
i was pretty much the only dude who seriously lifted. if birth control didn't exist i would have destroyed that gene pool.
Dude are you me, I'm in a liberal arts school too and I just can't believe I'm pretty much the only one who is kinda fit of my major. Me and one bro.
Tired AF of this stereotype so I set myself the goal to be the fittest liberal arts student
former hipster turned 'meathead' here
I think it just has to do with the avenues people use to gain social status. Hipsters spend their resources time/money attempting to make themselves more extrinsically valuable via taste and fashion. It is just a subculture that prioritizes style and obscure knowledge/talent. Their subculture does not include weightlifting at all because its not socially acceptable to bring what makes them socially valuable in to the gym with them. Its also pretty prevalent in this subculture to be a pretentious stuck up cunt that thinks they are better than everyone around them and it is very hard to go in to a gym at the bottom of the totem pole with that kind of attitude.
tl;dr hipsters lose their social standing in a gym/can't stand to feel that fellow gym goers may be better than them at something
Also if you find yourself being a faggot hipster at times pls try taking a massive dose of lsd after binge reading nietzsche. it worked for me fam
I tend to associate with these people, and I myself fall under their fashion/aesthetic umbrella... but I completely agree that 90% of these people worship artifice, and stand for absolutely nothing at all.
That said, all cliques--and people generally-- are incredibly stupid and shallow. Who gives a fuck about this stuff? Go befriend good humans, and fuck the whole lot of the rest of em. I know real genuine hipsters, and real genuine meat heads. I also know plenty of people that manifest identity in mere surface layers, whether in the form of Jean-Luc Godard or the US armed forces. It's equally hollow on both sides.
In short, this whole conversation is dumb.
You don't understand the definition of fascism. Most people who use the term don't. Singapore is definitely not technically fascist. It's not even sort of fascist. The most you can say is that it is an authoritarian government, but one that is extremely responsive to the needs of the public.
What's there to be jealous of? My high school years were my hipster phase and it just got old acting that jaded and obsessing over the newest obscure music/art all the time. The whole thing is fake and serves no purpose. And I never mentioned manbuns, I honestly think they're too mainstream at this point for "real" hipsters to wear them.
give me a fuckin break man.
this is what i meant.
Leave /fit/ you fucking disgusting PEDOPHILE.
Go back to your permaban.
>'Faggoty' democracies survive decades and centuries and grow wealthy and never go to war against one another, living in peace and prosperity.
That's incorrect, democracies war with one another all the time. It's far from a perfect system (in fact it's enormously flawed). Too many opinions leads to too much bureaucracy and stuff takes longer to get done (or doesn't get done at all).
I'd still rather a democracy than most forms of govt, but we need to stop looking at it through rose colored glasses. It's far from the most sustainable or best govt system.
>people call me a hipster for the way I dress
>tfw I'm just a nerd and poor
I wanna be a girl so badly
Not everyone who lifts isnt trying to become a powerlifter.
Clothes look infinitely good if you're fit.
There are tons of /fa/ people who are /fit/ on my campus. They just dont stand out because they dont look like try hard faggots because they actually look good.
If youre an arts major and not going into actual research or developing any real skills in conjuction with your major, you should kill yourself and burn your joke degree.
>One of them, within our species, is the 2nd to 4th digit length (2D:4D), which is a marker for prenatal testosterone levels. This study combines the Millerian theories on sexual dimorphism in cultural displays with the digit ratio, using it as an indicator of androgen exposure in utero. If androgenic levels are positively correlated with artistic exhibition, both female and male artists should show low 2D:4D ratios. In this experiment we tested the association between 2D:4D and artistic ability by comparing the digit ratios of 50 artists (25 men and 25 women) to the digit ratios of 50 non-artists (25 men and 25 women). Both male and female artists had significantly lower 2D:4D ratios (indicating high testosterone) than male and female controls. These results support the hypothesis that art may represent a sexually selected, typically masculine behavior that advertises the carrier's good genes within a courtship context.
It's the opposite. That doesn't mean your hypothesis is entirely incorrect though. Prenatal testoterone also has an immunizing effects on some parts of the brain, meaning higher testosterone level during pregnancy cuse them to masculinenize less than they otherwise would. It's one of the reasons homosexual men tend to act feminine, despite being disposed to higher amounts of prenatal testosterone than heterosexual men.
It is also true that men of the right side of politics have higher levels of testosterone than those on the left. There is a reason why faggots of all kinds are drawn to communism.
>I am an artist. I mostly got into weight lifting so I could model for myself.
me too brah
for reference photos?
>It is also true that men of the right side of politics have higher levels of testosterone than those on the left. There is a reason why faggots of all kinds are drawn to communism.
of course they do. it's basic instinct.
>right wing ideology
>let the strong survive and the weak perish
>left wing ideology
>weaken the strong in order to protect the weak
of course the weak flock to the left.
Women didn't necessarily stop creating art just because it was considered inappropriate, history just doesn't remember as many of them.
Also, most men would stop creating art if ordered to do so. That vast majority of humans are uninspired and vapid even without external pressures to conform to society.
don't expect leftists to make sense anon
anarchy = strong men kill off all the weak men and then take whatever women they can find to use as fuckdolls. it's pretty much the worst kind of environment a woman could imagine.
then again, the person in your pic is a tranny, so his mind is a twisted mess anyway. freaks like that would be the very first of the weak men to be killed off.
I have an answer forr this question: http://www.esquire.co.uk/culture/features/7588/the-rise-and-rise-of-the-spornosexual/
It's essentially because lifting is inherently unironic and thus not pretentious enough for hipsters.