Linux Mint 17 KDE was released. Anyone else using it?
If not, what flavour of Linux do you use?
works out of box. isn't ubuntu(although it is)
But if you do not like the ubuntu community or the amazon shit. there ya go.
I don't use mint. But I used to. it's actually a good ditro. i'd use it over ubuntu.
but i have fallen to #!
Mint is just Ubuntu with ubuntu-restricted-extras already installed. I don't see why they bother with releases other than Cinnamon and Mate. I guess because a bigger userbase makes them look more important.
Oh hey, that was me last year
Now I hopped on to the Debian bandwagon
Using gnash instead of flash player though, and it's a pain in the ass since a lot of /f/ games are buggy as shit or just simply won't play
Flash videos work fine though
Sorting through youtube videos sucks ass though
My recent experience:
Gnome is laggy
KDE looks like shit
Overall good and stable OS, besides the DEs listed
Unity is somewhat laggy and buggy, although fairly usable- better than stock Gnome 3
The overall OS is also pretty good
For some reason, I had a syslog grow to about 400GB, which I don't appreciate
The only DE I tried was their KDE, which simply masked how disgusting KDE was
Their package manager broke after updating and won't read updates (searched online and no solutions worked)
Relatively stable if you forget that it wouldn't update it's package manager
Loaded Cinnamon on Mint 17 and promptly shut down my computer out of disgust
I've tried Arch but there was a bug that shipped with my iso which prevented systemd from replacing the old display manager with a new one. I tried gdm & kdm with no luck.
I'm still on ubuntu right now but I'm rather discouraged by the whole DE/OS ecosystem for Linux in general.
I'm tempted to give the new eOS a shot but I'm pretty dubious from their last release being based on a .10 ubuntu.
Arch with GNOME 3. I tried KDE which somehow had problems with Firefox and other GTK-based programs (Firefox lagged horribly), then tried XFCE which didn't really feel like a DE and was full of bugs. I'm content with GNOME 3 for now, I'll probably try some minimal Openbox setup in the future though. Can you recommend me a panel application other than tint2?
Do you mean it's skinned to look like Windows or it just feels that way? I use XFCE because my netbook handles it well and I find it (with a few icon/color scheme tweaks) more efficient on a small screen.
Depends on what you want. If you want an user interface the average Windows user should get along with well, Mint Cinnamon will suit you best.
It can also be helpful to read a few articles and watch a few youtube distro reviews.
I see, do you have links to these articles?
Well, I browse the Chin mostly, read mango, watch chinese cartoons.
I want to switch so I can use some scripts as well as some terminal commands.
I have HP laptop, AMD processor , 4 gigs of ram.
Running vista. I know.
And it started giving me random bsod .
I checked the error and it was 0x124 which is a hardware problem.
So I took it to the "local tech repair shop" in order to fix it, he wiped the whole drive clean and told me it was a virus issue.
Needless to say the problem remained, so I though to take thing into my own hand starting by fixing it using a live CD of Linux to see which part is giving me the bsod, and with a little help with ifixit I may get things running.
Then double booting a Linux into my system.
Thanks, though YouTube is blocked in my country.
>Unless you have a recent computer, KDE is too resource intensive.
I mean, what kind of computer would that be? A Pentium 4 with 512 MB of RAM and onboard video? Why would anyone here use such a thing?
I mean, I get you'd use XFCE to reuse some old shit you have around, that's fine. I was mostly asking about having anything other than KDE as your main desktop manager.
I though I'm in fucked up country ( Serbia ), but Iraq is whole new level. I was born during the rule of a dictator ( Milosevic ), but now it's even worse and it's not more free at all.
Sorry for involving politics in this, but was it better during Saddam or during pro-US government ?
I tried to send you some more written reviews but 4chan server software don't let me post them because it thinks it is spam. Just use google or whatever search for "Linux review" and browse through the results, also read wiki articles about xfce, KDE, gnome, cinnamon.
I'd personally stay away from Gnome and KDE in any case.
Thanks, but it's kinda hard with the ISIS and armed militia around.
It doesn't, it just tells you what hardware is falling, try hardinfo I think it comes with most distro.
This is why I always fix my electronics myself. Holy fuck I hope you didn't pay for it.
I'm on Mint 17 Cinnamon after my SSD died with my Debian install. I'm actually quite happy with it, it's been 6 years since I last tried mint. I put Numix cinnamon theme on it along with Numix for gtk, got rid of window decorations through metacity configs, changed plymouth theme to numix and it's quite good now. Cool thing about mint is my thinkpad x61 volume control buttons work out of box, defaults on debian didn't work for instance, using mute button muted every single channel while pressing it again unmuted only one channel which led to situation where I had to unmute stuff directly in alsa mixer. No problems with mint here. The only thing that I dislike is update manager crashes from time to time, they should work on it.
Honestly, Saddam was far better, true he stole, blocked the whole internet, no cellphones, killed a few hundred people, but if you don't goes near him he won't bother with you.
Now when you go outside your house you're not sure you'll be back.
My cousin went to get some groceries and he just didn't come back, we never found him.
You never know who's after you, and you can be killed for any reason.
Also no water, no electricity - we get it about 4 hours a day- , so I got that going for me.
Ok, thanks anon.
I use it to play RA2
I did pay for it.
Baghdad, I don't think it will endanger me, not many people from Iraq browse 4 Chan.
>My cousin went to get some groceries and he just didn't come back, we never found him.
You're shitting me.
Thank you based America for bringing all that freedums to the oppressed people of the world ;_;
Nice numix dude, the transparent stuff is also really modern!
How did you clean the task bar from all the garbage?
When did that happen? Is it still that dangerous in Baghdad or was it years ago during occupation/civil war? Also my condolences. sorry for your loss.
After almost 3 years without using Linux, this were my impressions so far in these last two monts that I am using again:
- Many issues I had were fixed, most of the things just work.
- While it works, Unity still feels like a shit version of Windows 7 bar/OSX dock.
- Nautilus/Files a shit, it looks nice. But it is sure fucking slow for a file manager.
Mint 17 Cinnamon:
- Oh this looks nice.
- Everything work fine.
- Two hours later, Cinnamon crashed two times and one of those times, it froze the whole X server.
- Tons of notifications on the tray, jesus crist, after I disabled everything was okay
- Rock solid, blazing fast, tons of features
- Fucking ugly and I can't rice it for shit.
After all that I went back to Ubuntu, using PCManFM instead of Nautilus and dealing with Unity so far.
KDE5 however looks so damn nice, so I might switch to that once it goes stable (hopefully at the end of the year).
Thanks, I know I derailed the thread and I apologize for that.
But can we go back to my question and the thread?
So about my BSOD laptop which distro will help me figure the issue?
I've tested the ram with windows memory diagnostic tool and it found no issue.
Crystal disk info gave cautious message but I've had the HDD nearly full.
So that leaves the CPU and the fan, I also noticed if I put it in power saving mode I get less BSOD per day.
>hating other people's distro choices
Just use what works and what will do the job. The reason Linux is superior to Windows is because we have choice. Winbros cannot pick and choose the benefits of XP, Win7, Win8, and Win2000, and put them into one OS. They're stuck with what MS gives them.
There are special live distros for system diagnostics and data recovery and such stuff that can be booted from CD or USB stick, you might want to look into one of them?
They are also much smaller, mostly. So it's less to download.
This thread is relevant to my interests
I want something that "just werks" out of the box, but is still customizable
So far I've tried
Was kinda fun, learned a lot, but I need to be productive. I can't even estimate how long it'd take me to get everything up and running and making it look nice
Meh. One of those distros that just work on my machine, but I don't like Unity and that Amazon stuff makes this a no-go for me
Probably my favorite, works fine, Desktop seems usable
But I'm worried about all the non-free stuff it comes with
Didn't work. At all. Installer failed on me (pic related), then the nvidia driver failed on me, network didn't work properly
Should I just go with Arch? How long does it take to set everything up after installation / network config? Maybe Debian?
Ubuntu just works out of the box. And you can install other desktops.
I use ubuntu with gnome shell. For a while I used to use openbox when I gave a shit about system resource consumption.
Ubuntu always comes with the same amount.
Nothing in Ubuntu with Unity is really proprietary. The optional drivers are not installed by default as far as I remember. You don't have to check the box to install the restricted extras like MP3 playback. But I have never configured a system like that and if I have it was because I hate myself.
You never have to install anything proprietary if you don't want to.
I'm just going to add to my own statement by saying that all of unity's source code gets posted online. It's under GPLV3.
It also has canonical's weird license attached to it, but it's not proprietary software.
A virtual machine under virtualbox or vmware would give you the same options.
Install it to hd and set up a dual boot system is probably the best in the technical sense, like full hartdware access for the OS. But for testing purposes a VM or that www.linuxliveusb.com thing will do it, too.
I'd say start of with Ubuntu most people start off with that distro and then try mint, fedora and any other distro from there on and chooses one you like
its like choosing a sexuality
Any notable differences between Kubuntu and Mint KDE?
I did that, using vacuum cleaner.
I stopped the fan from spinning in order not to damage the bearings, and a lot of dirt came out, but it didn't solve it.
I'm reading the list as I waiting for the download to finish hopefully by tomorrow afternoon, and there are a lot of useful things in there.
The original ubuntu is the only one with Amazon shit
Yeah, kinda. It's essentially shaven down Ubuntu with their own material mixed in with it. They also have a Debian based linux mint now.
can you not just do apt-get dist upgrade on mint?
I'm new to Linux can you help me with wget command?
I'm trying to download an "index of" page how I do that?
Also is there a way to generate thumbnails from the links to see what I'm downloading before I do that?
It's the norm here, I get about 30-60 KB/s for about 50$ per month, I can get 100kb/s for 80$.
There's no data caps which is nice, although I suspect that my ISP throttles me sometimes.