So I tried audio in Venom today, seems cool and all, but I must ask, will there be less of an audio delay in future updates? Is that part of the core constantly being updated, or is this what it will be like?
I didn't think to try that until I had already posted.
> all of those lack the one-click simplicity that Skype offers
You have to register for Skype too. There's no difference between creating an account for Skype or creating an XMPP (jabber) account through software like Jitsi.
How is it easier?
>send friend your ID
vs with skype/xmpp
>(optional) set up encryption
Why did you leave out the "install client" for Tox? You could have also left it out for Jitsi, because it installs automatically through the package manager on Linux.
The only extra step between those two is the "register account" step.
>(optional) set up encryption
It encrypts it automatically by default, without any user interaction, at least it does so with XMPP with Jitsi.
uTox doesn't require an install on Linux or Windows. Just run the executable or binary and you're good to go.
Don't even pretend that Jitsi isn't a clusterfuck of noise with its Java dependency. You can't seriously argue that Jitsi/XMPP is more user friendly/idiot proof than most Tox clients.
Most people that just use their machines for Facebook/Skype with their relatives don't have Java installed.
Try walking a friend through the entire process of installing Java, Jitsi, making an XMPP account and then configuring it properly. XMPP doesn't even support video so you'd need to set up some other account for that too.
For uTox you run it, send your ID, and can use video and audio right away. And it's all encrypted.
I tried my best, a while ago. I posted a well written report of why I did not like a feature that was in the mockup on /gd/. I was met with criticism, and no resolution. Maybe I was wrong about it, although I fear that the designers are making a product for themselves, and not creating it for the general public. With this said, I believe the UI is the most important thing - if it doesn't look as good as Skype, there will be no adoption. That is why I do not like Tox.
Alright guys, I wanted to try out those Tox clients and went with uTox for wangblows and Venom for gnu/lunix.
However, I'm facing a strange issue. I'm looping back my audio to the input device while being in an audio call with a linux peer.
Linux peer receives the audio, but I could say it's played two times at once. There's a quiet audio stream (almost unhearable) and after 1/3sec proper audio stream comes in.
Is this happening for anyone else?
Probably a dumb question but why does Antox use so much data? I had one conversation with one person today and I am already at this for data usage. Glad I was on Wifi for it.
Any way around this or is it just the way it will work? Probably going to be a hard sell to use Tox on mobile if it uses 15GB+ per month in data. That's not even including audio/video.
so i tried tox today grabed the binary for fedora fro mthe site, it installed venom with no problems.
now where are the configuration options? i mean i understand that this is made with casusls in mind but i some images i choose where to save some are displayed inline and saved god knows where.
also i have no sound even though it's said to work, i actually think this is an issue with mostly fault to my system but since i don't have a way to configure the audio i don't know
also i never understood how tox is stopping other users from impersonating me. anyone can explain?
I know everyone handles ETAs differently but I'd just like to know roughly how often the client gets updated. I got it from the f-droid repository if that makes any difference.
I was planning on using this as an SMS replacement for the one or two people I talk with. I can't until the data usage drops though.
Your cryptographic key has two parts, one (secret) is known only to you, and another (public) is used to identify you in net network. When a pair of users talk they combine their own secret key with other persons public one, resulting in a shared key that's only know to them both, but nobody else. Thus unless your secret key is somehow learned by a supposed impersonator, they can not communicate on your behalf. More indepth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffie%E2%80%93Hellman_key_exchange
So I think I'm going to do a sticker campaign.
Would you guys rather a die-cut sticker or a square? A die cut would be something like pic related, where it's contoured to the logo, it's a smaller footprint, and I think gives a better look to it, but majority wins here.
I'll probably get 250 or so, and once they arrive, I'll let everyone know. On that note, what's the best way of people telling me their address? I know it's /g/ and I'm technically a stranger to most people, but would people emailing me an address to ship stickers to sound like a sane idea? I'm buying the stickers to send to people but I'm not sure what the best course of action is.
Because it's shit and Antony 'Astonex' is a fucking antony fucking evolution whiny shit. ( see >>43149213 for a photo of the fgt)
Use uTox for Android instead. It will at least get somewhere. Antox has basically been dead for months.
Guys, I think it's time we cut Proplex loose.
All he's doing is whining and complaining about stickers. He has contributed NOTHING to the Tox project and should be officially kicked out now before he tries to claim he invented it or some shit.
shit is going down in tox irc:NikolaiToryzin> Irunignorance, obviously not. If you ignore the part where Antox looks really good, at least it works.
<sonOfRa> great, then why are you even doing this?
<mahometbot> im still pretty srunk, what do you think we're paying alnf $5500?
<NikolaiToryzin> notsecure, you'll be following Googles material design guidelines, right?
<notsecure> I'm not following any guidelines
<sonOfRa> so it will be a bad UX
<Proplex> That was most possibly the most ignorant thing you could possibly say, notsecure.
<NikolaiToryzin> astonex, I don't think I've ever had the chance to thank you for what you've done for the project.
<NikolaiToryzin> You've done much more than notsecure has
<notsecure> sonOfRa, uTox needed a GL ES renderer, the only GL ES device I had was an android tablet, so why not?
<sonOfRa> Because it's going to look like complete shit, the guidelines are there for a reason
<Proplex> holy repetitiveness, batman.
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<sonOfRa> seriously, all of you with your "str8 c" bullshit are making me doubt the prospects of this project
<NikolaiToryzin> astonex, Antox is a really well designed application from a UI perspective, and its really helped this project out.
<sonOfRa> you're not looking at what users will actually like, you're putting your "no bloat" shit over everything
<Proplex> Everything that looks good has bloat.
<NikolaiToryzin> astonex, we do fight a bit, and I know I have an ego, but what you've done is really impressive.
<NikolaiToryzin> Meanwhile irunstupidity and notsecure are wasting time with an ugly, broken client.
Here's why we need to kick Proplex out: he's just fucked up the Tox Chat Servers:<ChauffeR> guys is tox down again
<Proplex> ChauffeR: tox.im?
<Proplex> It's up for me
<mahometbot> there's some information
<NikolaiToryzin> Proplex: He just asks that randomly.
<mahometbot> i'll make it more reasonable
<NikolaiToryzin> Like, once a day.
<ChauffeR> no the chatting servers Proplex
<sonOfRa> yeah the chatting servers are down
<sonOfRa> proplex fucked up a restart
<Proplex> tox is kil
anon lying is bad.
Okay, stickers were ordered.
Email me with your address if you want Tox stickers sent to your place. Here's my PGP key if you want to encrypt said email:
Oh sorry, forgot the image.
Also, if you want to sign the key and re-upload it to the MIT keystore, that would be a really great thing to do.
>Backdoored Microsoft garbage maintained by curry shits in the basement at Redmond
Every day until I can pusheen the gf over Tox and create esoteric joke stickersets for my autistic friends
"utox UI" is a shitty rendition of the mockup designed so obviously by a single assburger that it hurts to look at it. You change your online/away/etc by clicking the orb and CYCLING THROUGH the options. What the unholy hell? And everything else is just malformed and glitchy looking. NIDF go home.
Last call for stickers. Email me if you want one, otherwise these are all going to the normals who requested them on FB already.
uTox for Android certainly deprecates Antox
My ID is spam apparently
Groupchats are under a major (and lazy) rewrite. The way we see it, you have a random temporary id generated for each groupchat. There is a possibility of anonymous PMs between groupchat users (i.e. they know who they are in groupchat, but they communicate without learning their "real" ids). Another feature we are planning is the ability for two peers to expose their real ids to each other under mutual consent (i.e. you want to make contact with a person you know through groupchat), after that they can just communicate as two regular clients.
t. official GC team
Okay, I've allocated all the stickers away. I'll be getting more as time goes on so if you wanted one and didn't get it, you'll have a lot more chances.
I can always tell who's from /g/ and who was from FB, and I love you all for that. Reading "Can I have stickers please?" 30 times is boring, but getting a few of your emails really made it worthwhile.
Sorry for the late response, I was on the phone with Stqism~
I'd love to be your Mugi.