>making increasingly thinner phones that need to be recharged constantly because thinner and thinner batteries
Can this trend please stop? I'm not some fucking 6-year-old who can't carry anything more than a centimetre-thick phone. Phones could easily fit in your pocket ten years ago, despite being thick as the dragon dildos these thinfags use every night.
If you're going to make thinner phones at the cost of battery life, kindly fuck off. Thank you.
Yeah, thank god you posted that on /g/, that'll show them.
>inb4 some teenager posts a giant mobile phone from the early 90s
Then get a regular cell phone (not a smarthone) from the late 00's you fucking retard
Battery thickness has nothing to do with it, because if you weren't retarded you would notice that capacity is actually increasing.
The real problem is power hungry hardware and inefficient. heavy software.
>complaining about how thin phones are
>not complaining about the recent trend of fuckhuge screens
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Take the Nexus 5 as an example. The camera lens sticks out from the casing, rather than staying flush.
Surely making the entire phone 1mm thicker so that the lens didn't stick out, just asking to be scratched, would have allowed a battery that can actually last it a full day with decent amount of useage.
Thinner was cool when we had bricks, but come on, lets be a bit more practical!
it seems to be already stopping
phones are becoming slightly thicker now that hi-res screens are becoming the new selling point rather than the DESIIIIGN
This still won't stop the phablets. Stop watching movies on your phones and get a tablet/laptop people!
The Galaxy S and Galaxy Note series have inexpensive third party batteries that double the thickness of the phone and triple the battery life.
Pic related, this gets me 4 or 5 days of use with 16 hours of screentime between charges.
A bigger screen yields benefits.
A thinner phone really fucking doesn't.
Fits slimmer in your fag tight jeans or something?
Feels worse in your hand?
Really just say one that isnt about vanity.
We could handle phones 15 times the thickness of todays phones without even batting an eye, it really makes no sense to not even give consumers the option to take an extra 0.5 or even 1cm thickness in return for 5+ days of battery life.
For now, why isn't your solution to just carry a battery pack?
Or buy one of the phone models that are actually intended for India and other 3rd world places that have frequent power interruptions - those DO have large batteries.
You even get the benefits from the smartphone SoCs having become more power efficient due to dem flat small battery phones.
We're basically finally back at the point where specific smartphones can do a 24 hour phone call...
I want to make another point.
give me a proper phone with qwerty keyboard! fucking hell, I've been using Nokia C6 since it came out, now bought One X from a friend and I am still using Nokia for sms and things like that, typing on a touchscreen sucks epic dick. All I want is hardware from S4, 4.3 inch screen, 2500MAh battery and I will buy that in a heartbeat
nobody wants to be 'that guy' carrying around a battery pack, otg cable, flash drive, etc. etc.
But really, a phone with a 4.9" screen, something around 350ppi, brightness good enough to use in sunlight, modest hardware, a swappable 3500-4000mAh battery, and an SD slot would be just about perfect for a fuckload of people. Too bad nobody is making that phone.
The Sony Xperia Z2 has a 3200 mAh battery and it's a sleek slim phone, mine lasts 2 days with moderate to heavy usage. The Z3 coming out soon will last 40% longer. Plus it has by far the best camera on the market (20.7 megapixels), which you can use underwater. I have no idea why anyone would buy any other Android phone.
>Having a Galaxy S3 LTE rooted and cm installed
>Bought extra battery for 10 bucks on amazon
>After half a day of extensive use exchange battery within 30 secs
>charge both overnight
>when lifespan declines buy new one
>works perfectly fine
>"many times more inconvenient"
>Phones could easily fit in your pocket ten years ago,
More like 25 years ago.
>someone complains about manufacturers disregarding battery life, a much more important aspect of a phone, just to make them slimmer
>Captainmacfag appears to state that he gets 16 days of battery life out of his motion charging powerbank attached to his dick and can still power the vibrator lodged in his ass
Thanks man, your solution, after all, only forces specific phones on me, has me charge 2 fucking batteries at night instead of the one I already have to, and has me changing battery packs.
Compared to a phone that would be 1cm fatter than the usual phone, which would simply let me use it for 5 days and charge it then.
MANY TIMES MORE CONVENIENT.
But you have to be if you want this.
The only alternative is to be a sheep and carry the current MuhCelebrityCoolPhone or at least something "respectable" (according to advertisements and what is supposed to be the current fashion or state of the art).
>Phones could easily fit in your pocket ten years ago,
Phone size is a strange beast.
No one seems to give a shit about it anymore.
I remember when Nokia N8 came out.
People went completely apeshit over it's "fuckhuge" size.
>No one is going to use phone that big! It's huge! Horrible thing!
>Doesn't even fit into a pocket!
Now look at this tiny fucker.
I went to a store and compared it with the phones there, even the smallest ones were a lot larger than this thing.
I want a 4inch touchscreen, slide out physical keyboard with a trackball or dpad, dual sdcard slots, 1 week battery, wifi, gps, bluetooth, nfc, infrared, magnometer, proximity, barometer, accelerometer, fm, am, lw and ham radio, light sensor and gyroscope. I want an led flashlight but not a flash cos phones shouldn't have fucking cameras. I want line in and out 3.5mm jacks with no speaker just a beeper for alarms and calls etc. A tough as shit case and an unlocked bootloader so I can multiboot any ARM supporting OS I please. I'm wet after typing this...
>We made the mainboard smaller and more efficient
>GREAT, NOW MAKE THE WHOLE PHONE THINNER
>well, what about adding more battery?
>PEOPLE WANT THINNER
>ALSO THE BATTERY SHOULDN'T BE REPLACEABLE WE WANT DISPOSABLE PHONES SO PEOPLE BUY BUY BUY
>sir, you dropped your silly jewish hat
>REMOVABLY BATTERIES MEAN THIRD PARTY BATTERIES MEAN THICKER PHONES AND EXPLODING PHONES AND MUH BRAND IMAGE HURRRR
>oh god he's devolving
>get the fucking flamethrower
>damnit torvalds, torch it!
I am using this as my second phone since i tend to travel a lot for work, this thing lasts 10 days at minimum. as a basic phone for calling/texting this is a GODLIKE device, highly recommend it
Best form-factor or best form-factor?
I want a modernized Droid or N900.
I have to carry around
>2 Auvi-qs (epinephrine injectors for allergy faggots)
Any reduction in phone thickness for my front pocket is welcome, I do agree that reductions can get ridiculous but cases add bulk too.
I would agree that we seem to be experiencing diminishing returns past 4/10ths of an inch.
>Battery that lasts 4-6 days
>Does nothing good more than a phone should be doing
>Won't distract with you with bullshit when you're out
Do yourself a favour and find one of these in a pawn shop or something.
Got this Nokia 6230i for $2.99 from the Thrift store. Absolute pristine condition.
I had that swiss army knife of a phone. Fm transmitter, camera, stereo recording and battery life really stood out. I have the z2 now which takes as good as pictures as that did in 2010.
anyone who still has a flip-phone is a dinosaur.
Communication is one of the lesser reason to have a smartphone. Alarms, notes etc. are far more useful.
Also, texting. God I hated receiving texts on my flip phone. And texts are a better way to communicate too.
I used to think these were cheaper...
As soon as I figured out I could buy a lumia 520 for like 50 bucks and put it on a dumb-phone plan for 3 bucks a month- it was in the trash
Also, a battery pack case is like 30 bucks for these things
More important should be thinks like monotone screens, lighter operating systems with less fancy graphics, keeping the phones at 480P or less... but mostly we just wont ever be happy. For example, I'd love a phone like that, but with a six inch screen... no one will ever make that, Until project ARA we will never be able to choose where our money goes- if ara ever gets going anywhere
I'd love a 4.3 inch bar phone with a 720p screen, NFC, and a stripped-down, non-android-based OS with a consistent, good user experience. Like, no apps, fuck that shit, here's a phone that does the usual handful of smartphone things and nothing else because fuck you. Just do the stuff you need and do it well.
At best I'd say give the messaging system a protocol plugin setup. Same for an activity stream app - get RSS articles, Twitter, Facebook, longer emails all on one feed, get SMS/MMS, XMPP, Twitter DMs, short emails and IRC all in one chat system. Shit like that.
If you control the whole system you can also have a consistent theming system, unlike shit like Cyanogenmod's theme engine that won't really work because people are swapping apps out left and right with shit that doesn't use system elements - meaning you can rice easily.
>mfw I'm basically describing Windows Phone except they're desperately trying to not be like this
>gotta have mah retina displays!
Its a 5 inch screen faggot. Your money and battery life is better spent elsewhere on a budget device
I want my phone to be functional, responsive, cheap. not pretty. FUCK PRETTY. I want a dumb smartphone.
Take your pretty and shove it into your verizon cock sucking contracts lovehole with your 600 dollar disposable trash-tech that will maybe last two years.
The g3 and note 4 have issues with overheating and frequently throttles themselves. Theyre cutting edge trash bound for bricking. High end is just as disposable as low end. Which is fucking stupid. And locked down software. GROSS.
If manufacturers just jumped on graphene instead of sticking to old ass technology maybe we could actually have slim phones with batteries that last more than 12 hours
But no, we gotta remain stuck in the fucking dinosaur age and keep pumping out overpriced shit that you can't ever use unless you have a charger with you at all times
Why couldn't have phones like this been more popular?
N8 Camera is god tier, they really nailed the design in that model.
Just like they did with N82.
Both great phones and I actually prefer that old brick of a N82. Still have it.
Probably the best of the Symbians imo.
MP3 player still had a fucking search function and the design is very nice.
Fits hand nicely and can take ungodly amount of punishment.
Speaking of durability, one of the main reasons I haven't bought a new phone after N8 is the durability.
I don't need 1440p bullshit that the newer phones are packing, I just need 720p minimum so that text is actually fucking clear. 480p is full retard when batteries are getting better, it's only that companies are being even more retarded by packing the screen with more placebo pixels to offset the better battery.
Sony ericsson K series, specially K750, K800 and K810 (didnt like the round buttons, but whatevs). Those were the best phones i have ever had, good photo, calls, some web, some games. sturdy and reliable. Battery lasting a week.
guys what if they made a phone where the shell was the battery that also had a qi coil in it
I know they make extra large batteries with larger shells, but then it looks silly around the camera hole.
>look, our new chip is 50% more efficient!
>phone designers use it for quadruple core, >2ghz, 2GB, 2560x1440 phones at 4"
>could more than double battery life if they used 720p and dual-core or low quad
>instead make battery even fucking thinner
It's because (smart)phones are social, fashion pieces for retards. They're afraid they'll get asked if they have a boner or a lumpy ass if anything bigger than this shows up in their pants.
This is also why girls store their phones in their bags more frequently than their pants, FYI
Why do you care about the battery life of someone else's phone? I'm assuming you don't buy thin phones but instead THL 5000s or Samsung + zerolemon. We buy our phones with shitty batteries because we live in 1st world countries with electricity coming out of our walls
You have to take out like 2 fucking screws, and pop a ribbon cable off. Takes a good five minutes or so to change. It's not ideal, but the batteries last a long time, and don't often need to be replaced anyway.
Speaking of battery tech, has any real improvement even happened?
Seems like it stagnated after 2009 and our batteries have been relatively shit after that.
Guess it's not even going to improve in the near future.
Hope that they manage to crank down the power consumption to such low levels that battery life starts skyrocketing.
if you had any brains you would realize the nexus 5 is made to be fit with one of googles cases
which then aligns the camera with the flush case.
> Implying I give a shit about the opinions of morons
I mean these are the people who worship an electronics company like literal religion, and allows marketing companies to peek into every single moment and aspect of their lives, and don't care because "Muh social networking".
Why on earth should I care about their opinion?
Didn't apple place the ribbon cable in one of their iphones in such a way that if an amateur was to try and disassemble it to replace battery/screen they could easily damage the deviously hidden cable?
Yeah, that guy with school loans, a 50 hour a week job and the worries that come with adult life totally cares about how cool your phone looks. Thanks for your amazing insight anon.
I've always wished I had a sister that I could have sex with.
you wish something would ever touch your nutsack you massive faggot! Even the ugliest gay guy wouldn't suck your dick or let alone fuck you in the ass and give you a reacharound with an abomination like this!
if you work 50 hours a week you're both a failure and a disappointment! 50 hours slaving away a week is no way to live.
I suck maybe 8 dicks a week, and have a 6k yearly salary! You should try servicing the business industry, instead of making money for someone else who then pays me to suck their dick for them, you know?
It also supplements my nutritional needs, you know?
didn't they make a new transparent solar panel that can probably be used as a phone screen in the near future. if done right phones will just need a battery for standby and they can charge while you use it.
Nah, rather they glued the ribbon cable to the screen, and then glued the battery on the ribbon cable and the screen.
The whole thing is glued the fuck together, as if 10 gay men in an orgy all spewed their toxic jizz in this device, then assembled it and let it harden, coat it with more semen, let it harden again and then package the whole deal up.
>letting your phone sit in the sun
I did that with two different phones a few years back and it killed the batteries to the point that they had to stay plugged in just to stay powered on.
>Lumia 920 comes out
>ergonomic as a motherfucker
>great battery life due to the fat juicy battery.
>IT'S TOOO BIIIG
>UGH, WHAT A BRICK
>IT'S TOO HEAVY
>Nokia never makes a comfortable phone since.
Thanks for ruining great things bitch arms.
>Even the ugliest gay guy wouldn't suck your dick or let alone fuck you in the ass and give you a reacharound with an abomination like this!
Average twink here and that won't turn me off :3
>Having a device like something from star-trek in the 70's
>Fits in your pocket and can instantly fetch data from billions of computers around the world and space
>HURRR FUCKING DURRRRRR WE'RE LIVING IN THE DINOSAUR AGE
2edgy4me you faggot! Do you see any dinosaurs? I want what you're smoking man!
Tech currently in most smartphones was around ~20 years ago, only recently has it been repurposed and refined for use in these devices. This is the result of market demand and although advances have occurred, we're still, for all intents and purposes, stuck in the fucking dark ages, reusing ancient shit. It's sad that the same sort of ARM CPU that existed in 2001 was still being used in flagship phones as late as 2012, and even the newest flagship phones use what is ultimately a closely-related derivative of these processors
i LOVE buying old cellphones like that from thrift shops. The only god damn problem i have are their moneydick sucking assball proprietary connectors and chargers. Do you even have a charger for your phone?
Because a battery pack is horseshit!
Every time i plug something into my microUSB port, i wear out the conection just a little bit more. I am so glad my nexus can be charged without pluging anything physically into the phone.
My microUSB port on my nexus is basically virgin. I sealed it up with a little bit of black silicone RTV which can be easily peeled out if need be, keeps the dust out of the port.
I think all new smartphones should have wireless charging build in, to negate the fact that the battery only lasts half a day.
I have a wireless charger at work, in the car and on my desk at home. It's wonderful to just plop down your phone and not having to worry about plugging and unplugging several times a day.
Does anybody remember the thick yellow nextels?
it doesn't affect the battery life you fucking autistic. lipos are getting better every day and hardware is getting more efficient.
battery tech has gotten like 10 times better in just the last 5 years
Wasn't that thing pushing a 12MP camera in 2010?
>we'll make a crappy battery
>so people can buy extended ones for $100
>we also won't add expandable storage
>so people can buy extended batteries with storage for even more
>we will remove the floppy drive from the new iMac
>and we will sell them separately
Great form factor, but crap battery and no support for AT&T 3G.
>mfw N-series devices are still insanely expensive on eBay
There is no reason for a 2007 phone to go for $80.
>mfw watching the IT Crowd
>Roy talking about his new phone
>144p screen, wifi enabled
>mfw he's holding a sexy ass Moto SLVR L7
>$50 on Ebay for one
The new iPhone is supposed to have a protruding lens too. It's so retarded, seriously nobody can tell the difference if it's one mm thinner, and I've already heard a lot of complaints about the protruding lens. They could have packed a bit more battery, but they just had to give in to the stupidest fucking vanity dimension there is.
WHERE U AT
The 220 and 515 are sleek as fuck though. Sure they're expensive, but they can take 32gb MicroSDs and generally are a cross between dumbphones and smartphones while being able to take advantage of not being made in 2007.
>battery tech has gotten like 10 times better in just the last 5 years
My old phones all had batterries lasted at least 1 week. Some specially designed can even last a month.
Now? The best phone will last 2 days on idle and half a day with intensive network use.
I'm so sorry you're poor.
Please stop trying to justify it to me, though.
If I'm in the car streaming music, can use my smart watch to respond to texts, and also get spoken out loud directions, I'm better off than you with your fucking dumb phone. Quit acting like you're clever; you're not.
Sure, but you can't compare the old phones to smartphones. And you can still get plain cellphones - which last weeks on standby.
I went through various of the first brick phones from the 90s, and their battery life was atrocious when you actually used them for making calls.
Modern batteries, specifically that lipo stuff, are crazy effective compared to the older ones. Smartphone users don't notice that because at the same time the devices become more and more power-hungry. But go look at other applications, like RC cars. Go compare battery packs from 10-20 years ago to the modern ones, the improvements are enormous.
People often go around throwing made-up statements such as "LOL MY NOKIA USED TO LAST FOR WEEK BRAH" ignoring how little they used to use such old phones.
Using a feature phone for browsing (wap-style) kills it's battery in about 3 hours.
the next iteration (K850i) sucked on the software side though.
Still have one up and running, too bad the camera doesn't focus anymore and the plastic body is trashed to say the least.
I had several different nokia phones way back when, and I would text my friends non stop all day and night, playing snake over IR in between, and call my girlfriend and talk for hours after school. And the fucking battery DID last a week or more. There is nothing made up there, it's just user experience.
Girls keep their phones in their bras and don't often worry about size.
PEOPLE want something thin, functional in relation to their needs, and that's fairly transparent to use. A flip phone is a pain for things like internet, photos, and general communication that isn't voice. Smartphones are the most common phone in the world for a reason, and it isn't cause people are "sheep" or because people "are being brainwashed into thinking they need something they don't". It's cause people fucking use their devices for the functions they have on a daily basis, just because you can't get into it doesn't mean everyone else is wrong and you're right, aspie.
>Snake over irDA
I really miss infrared.
>mfw 2007-9 in school and some kids have phones with infrared
>transferring files all day erry day
>teacher is trying to get the TV to work in class
>mfw 5 kids using TV remote apps at once
Why Nokia, why? Couldve had some balls and develop Meego into something glorious.
But Windows Phone is going to fix everything!
>WP7 is going to fix everything!
>WP8 is going to fix everything!
>WP8.1 is going to fix everything!
>Can this trend please stop? I'm not some fucking 6-year-old who can't carry anything more than a centimetre-thick phone
You can stop it right away. Just ignore any part of the phone market that you don't like.
True, this will reduce your opportunities for adolescent rage, but you can't have everything (where would you put it?).
I hate carrying a phone with me all times. You're never alone carrying a phone around, people always expect instant replies to their stupid bullshit that you don't care about.
I just want to be left alone.
For me, the lumia 800/n9 has the best dimensions and design. I still use it to this day.
The 800 was a truly beautiful phone.
>tfw it's getting too old, and the vital apps aren't getting updated anymore, also ie is getting old too
Pls kill me. ;_;
Just buy a Samsung Galaxy S or Note phone, stick a bigger battery in it and call it a day. This is why Samsung is better than HTC and the others, they give insane amounts of options. Apple, too, since there are so many battery cases for iPhone. Stop buying shit phones. Buy high end Galaxy or iPhone
At least Nokia doesn't planify their devices' obsolescence.
>Someone at somewhere
Yeah yeah, sure.
And you know what? My dad is working on a battery that last 1 year.
As for me, I am working on the manuscript left by Nikola Tesla, which can provide free energy to the entire world.
Still got mine in it's cardboard resting place.
I don't think i can't part with it after how good it's service was.
Exactly. My iPhone has like a week of stand by that actually lasts, but as soon as I ask it to do things, that's when it starts churning.
Granted I don't care cause I don't live in 3rd world land where there's no fucking power.
High-DPI laptop screens and e-ink phone screens. I really don't give a shit about watching video or playing games on my handheld. E-ink screens are great but the software in most e-readers is nerfed as fuck.
Um... A fucking camera?
No, that's not normal, you are a fucking weirdo. You can't deny that even with big hands, it would be much easier to access at the bottom of the screen, and all you want to do is argue, and try to prove someone wrong otherwise you won't feel good about yourself.
I don't own a camera.
And I'm not being contrary, I just don't find it any trouble to access the top of the screen by shifting the phone in my hand. Maybe it's because I'm used to it, but I just don't.
I really had no idea that other people didn't do the same thing.
I'm fucking sick of these touch screen devices man,
I love pushing buttons,
I want a flip phone, one with a good screen and a lovely design,
I will actually sell my Note 3 now, Tell me what is great about having a huge screen in your face all day; walking around not paying attention to anything?
I miss the feel of texting with buttons, I miss having to toggle through the keys in order to spell out words
What the fuck is the point of touching flat, lifeless glass all day
Everything's touch now,
Someone please find me a really nice flip phone please, you guys made me feel too hard
>I miss the days when typing on a phone was objectively slower and less efficient
>What the fuck is the point of touching flat, lifeless glass all day
The same fucking point as clicking buttons all day, to convey information.
Your phone is a machine, a tool, not a pet you play with. Being "lifeless" doesn't mean anything.
>enjoy the silence of your finger tapping on cold glass
>no "click" sound
>shit attempt of "haptic feedback" to compensate for the lack of response to your finger
>no more sliding/flipping your phone around dauntlessly
>worrying about scratches on such a large phone surface
You just don't get it man
>no "click" sound
You can have the phone make click sounds.
>shit attempt of "haptic feedback" to compensate for the lack of response to your finger
Most people like the haptic feedback, myself included.
>no more sliding/flipping your phone around dauntlessly
>worrying about scratches on such a large phone surface
Phone cases negate those risks.
How much attention do you get? serious question. I would honestly find it entertaining to see the look on people's faces, and be excited to give them my reason for having one (in a humorous fashion)
I don't even think there is a network that they will work on. I just have them in a box in a closet in my home office. I don't actually use them for anything other than impress my nerd friends while drinking.
Have these been tested over extended periods (i.e. years)?
I've always had problems with extended batteries lasting about 6 months then fucking up. The fact that this company doesn't offer more than a 6 month warranty doesn't inspire much confidence.
That's actually good to hear then. I already got a spare battery for this Note 2 but I'm probably just gonna get one of those once both of these die as they tend to do eventually.
I think we should have something like the HD2 with lots of front buttons and as little wasted front space as possible. Relatively thick though with SD card and battery removal so you can use extended batteries.
>people ITT saying "wow dat WAS such agud phone"
>fucking phone is still 100% usable and just as good as it ever was
what's wrong with you fucks?
this isn't fucking ancient hardware this was out like last year
Why not just buy popular phone with a removable battery and get a bigger battery + case? Did that with my Galaxy S3 and went from 8 hours max to 3-4 days with all the extra shit on.
>you're a sheep because you buy the working option!
wow you are truly deep and enlightened :) we have a lot in common. , have you taken prof. shekelstein's philosophy 101 class yet?
I miss slightly curved glass and non flat back as my nexus S, still holding to it after so many years because of that. Those square flat phones don't feel comfortable to hold for any significant amount of time.
This. I hate this. I'm hoping that my transition to dumbphone will mean that I'll just tell people to call me or text and wait for a damn reply and not hurr why you not message, FB message and snap back instantly all 3 at the same time.
I actually feel weird about getting a dumbphone, it literally feels like I'm a junkie who is going to have his spoon taken away.
>mfw having to go to a laptop or to my PC to go online to check things from now on
>is it 2004 again please let it be
>doesn't remember this shitstorm
Kid detected. GTFO.
I miss all the number games in my head while texting with T9. It felt like I was Aphex Twin being synthesetic (IIRC that's how it's spelled) while making music or something.
2 2 times makes B
8 1 time makes T
3 3 times makes F
6 3 times makes O
>asked for durable
>posts phone with a case that is 90% glass that is about as durable as two sheets of glass back to back