Is moot just appeasing the Jewish overlords with an empty promise? I'm sure by the time they've gone through the bureaucracy of the process required to issue a notice about a specific thread it would of 404'd anyway.
You realize that a DMCA takedown is basically just a template right? Shit I could write you a script that generates a valid one given nothing more than an input section for "what was 'stolen'" and "what URL is it at".
I didn't realize that no, however they're still going to have to employ someone to monitor the site 24/7 and be fairly quick to the punch with the request to get a thread or it's picture purged. I hope moot employs some kind of notice to the users when the DMCA rule is enforced so people can repost the fuck out of the offending material.
>by the time they've gone through the bureaucracy of the process required to issue a notice about a specific thread it would of 404'd anyway.
That's the idea. Der Juden get their fancy doom button, all moot has to do is sit on his ass for a few hours and let the thread die on its own.
how many boards are there? how many threads per board? The shit that seems to upset people normally comes from /b/, has a thread even 24 hours in the last 5+ years on /b/?
I just don't see how this is going to work.
I just found the place I read that. It's just on blog.4chan.org
>We’re trialling delayed thread pruning on specific boards. While not a true archive, threads on /a/ and /v/ will continue to be accessible for a period of 48 hours after being pushed off of the board index. We may roll this out to additional worksafe (blue) boards in the future, as well as increase or reduce the retention period.
Why wouldn't he? More income from the traffic and advertisers that are attracted. As if you wouldn't shit the bed when you're staring down the barrell of a Hollywood jew lawyer who might threaten legal action because he has no safe harbor.
I doubt much of /t/ isn't going to be removed. Moot only added a dmca because he was afraid of being sued due to recent drama. If /t/ had caused him trouble in the past, he'd have added the DMCA notice earlier.
Either way, it's complicated.
>Although this might have some impact on regular users of the site who maintain an account,
heh! 4chan accounts? or maybe I misunderstand and they mean some other meaning of the word "account"
Every time I read a news story about 4chan from a main stream media outlet I can't help but feel like they haven't bothered to try to understand the site. Muh 4chan account will be banned for DMCA ;_;
>As well as taking down illegally-shared content in response to genuine requests, 4Chan said it would also notify the person who posted infringing material that the content had been removed and was subject to a DMCA request.
"Your thread hast been removed for DMCA"
>repost + screenshot of removal notice.
>picture becomes may may because fuck the police
>OY VEY, MY CLIENTS ARE GETTING BAD PR FROM DIS
To be fair Mr Skekelstein, in most of these cases they were being dumb and or immoral. So most of them had it coming.
You can never be too careful when it comes to your own safety and privacy.
Would he really though? Say what you want about moot but he's always seemed to be pretty chill about protecting people's rights to express themselves without having to worry about consequences.
Oh hey guys, do you like this logo? I just made it in Photoshop and it belongs to me.
>Some website owners complain that deep links "steal" traffic to their homepages or disrupt the intended flow of their websites. In particular, Ticketmaster has argued that other sites should not be permitted to send browsers directly to Ticketmaster event listings.
I know they got denied but wow.
Shhh, /g/. Everything's going to be alright. Just let it happen.
Why don't they just set up a redirect to homepage if the traffic doesn't come from a specified location?
Would take like 10 minutes of setting up and you don't have to go to court and make your entire company look like stupid assholes.
That was rude.
A lot of the photos were not sexting. Or are we just talking about JLaw's? I don't feel bad for her, sorry to say.
Little questionable some of them, but the line of what is moral is constantly being redrawn. Its achingly slow but you can notice moral decay over a lifetime.
I don't know, people were always sexual. However, they get what's coming to them, I'm sorry to say.
Stay anally-angry, kike. <3
gif unrelated, just really like it... :7
You can just download all boards at once and run something like even VisiPics to match images. What makes anybody think they are not going to automate the fuck out of this process and send a DMCA request right as the image shows up in their lurk tool?
Google has fixed this by complying to DMCA requests by big companies by just making the YT video unavailable instantly and the rightful owner can often GTFO even though their shit doesn't even contain any DMCAable material.
4chan is over guys.
Whatever happened to fair use?
It's bullshit that some kike can own you all because you posted an image he claims to "own".
Fuck all of this stupid shit.
We're always told that society's better off than it was hundreds of years ago. Huge cults no longer exist, people are no longer what amounts to kings, etc.
It's all lies.
You're fucking retarded. Every several months retards whine about something moot did, or occasionally the 'hurr newfigs fucking up mah secret club' and call it the death of 4chan.
No, it's not. Moot is under no fucking obligation to automate responses. No one cares to automate DMCA requests on copyrighted images. If they were, google images would be a fucking goldmine.
Fuck off, retard. The safe harbor from legal action was the only thing moot had in mind. You would do the same if you were looking down the barrel of some jewish hollywood lawyer. Don't even fucking PRETEND you wouldn't.
Yeah it was, I thought it wasn't new either, for like years. But everyone is saying it is so I guess I was mistaken. And I can't even check it with the internet archive because robots.txt, is everyone just fucking with me?
You guys realize 4chan's threads die in a few hours right? By the time someone takes the time to actually fill out and mail a DMCA takedown notice the original file will already be long since dead and no one will care about it anymore. moot was probably just covering his ass because reddit and tumblr directed a bunch of assmad faggots to here
And those little changes stay. They have influence. 4chan hasnt been a quick paced website any more since reCaptchas. It's even monetized, which I don't oppose, but still find hypocrite after moot saying it was a temporary fix. They banned all circlejerking on all boards and there isn't a board culture as much. It's all media friendly and newfag friendly these days.
4chan is over. It's an empty hull now.
You surely disagree. Content hasn't ever changed. Just the entire 4chan culture is being killed off.
And everyone stays because they are addicted to the cheap thrills of shitposting
If the average tard here went to a smaller board, they would either
>Become instantly hated
>Get bored upon realizing that they have nothing to contribute and feel too ashamed and isolated to post
Overtime for the mods for the first few weeks, and even drastic measures like temporary membership systems.
1chan is safe though. You have to actually care to get in, and the entire culture is disgusting to the typical shitposter so they don't even bother.
It's like 4chan before that dumb weeb shii corrupted moot.
People who can't put up with newfags leave 4chan, since most content here is repetitive anyway. /g/ was shit in 2010 and surely hasn't improved when I was back in 2012 and see where this shithole is now.
The average yard wasn't welcome before. Now all boards are flooded with people with shallow interest in a subject.
I really didn't.
I rarely watch hollywood movies or listen to big business jew music.
I really don't know who most of these people are.
The last films I've watched are "Who's afraid of Virgina Woolf", "They Live", and "Her" over the course of a year or so.
They sure as hell didn't work. Accelerator was patched to include captchas instantly. The only thing that semi-stopped spam was the massive banning of proxies end 2012. Most public proxies have been banned and that's all. VPNs still work, most nonpublic proxies still work and guess what, Accelerator still works great.
Is a simple math based captcha intensive enough to warrant outsourcing it to google?
How so? Do you really think companies are going to waste their resources filing DMCA requests, only to have to file another DMCA request a few minutes later when the same file is re-uploaded? They'll give up when they realize they can't win.
>cover his butt from JLaw's lawyers. This'll pass later when everyone cools down.
If 'law' trumps free speech, and if 'law' knows no end which it will legislate, then censorship doesn't end here; this is only the beginning.
If Moot was under some sort of pressure, then I wish he'd turned to the community for support. A front page explanation and plea would have gone far. Yet there wasn't even a blog post about this? Does Moot really even believe in copyright? I don't know. If this is just a face-saving measure rather than practical (automated) implemenation of takedowns then I'd be happy.
The idea of 'illegally shared material' is atrocious. 4chan has always emphasized sharing, images in particular, but video and audio abound aswell. A restriction on sharing is a large change in culture, a change limited only by the imagination of the US copyright system.
>Just like with the pirate bay
Last I checked, the pirate bay is still up. Also, they can't hold Moot liable for his posters. As long as he deletes posts whenever they send a valid DMCA request, he is acting within the requirements of the law.
>Do you really think companies are going to waste their resources filing DMCA requests
They already do.
There are companies like Remove Your Media and Web Sheriff whose exclusive job is to send DMCA requests to people.
What do you think it will stop them from sending removal requests for here?
But they will not accomplish actual censorship. A file, once removed, will be replaced quickly, and they will rapidly find that if they want to get rid of a file, they will have to expend a great deal more resources to make it stay that way. Furthermore, if they are spending a great deal of resources to remove a file, they will only exacerbate the problem, because people will begin posting that same file onto other websites, forcing them to hire even more people to keep an eye on even more websites, just to keep one or two images off the net. It will eventually grow to a point where the cost of censorship will be to great for them to keep it up, and they will give up.
The Streisand Effect has worked time and time again because the precedent is, and always will be, that those who attempt to censor the free flow of information are not in the right, but in the wrong.
The point isn't that they can send a DMCA request. The point is that they have to repeatedly send DMCA requests. The point is that the cost of keeping a file from being disseminated grows exponentially over time. The point is that even if they can remove something once or twice, they cannot keep it up. They will lose a war of attrition every time.
>Linus talks about this
>acts like this should have happened ages ago because "all of the child porn"
>thinks child porn was tolerated here before this incident
>people try to correct him "oh come on guys. No child porn, on 4chan? It's 4chan! It's the type of place I just wouldn't feel right going to even if I deleted my history.
If that's not torvalds I don't know who you're talking about. A lot of normalfags seem to believe /b/ is the entirety of 4chan and never bother to venture beyond there. It's probably for the best really if they did we'd probably be stuck with them.
Completely removing things from the internet is not their objective.
They know is impossible to accomplish that.
But they will waste resources to remove their content from popular places (e.g, 4chan) to make it less accessible to regular people.
Your link shows that the links were removed from Google, but the files were not able to be removed from the sites listed. Further, Google still links to those sites for other purposes.
A person might not be able to find, say, those bleach episodes by googling for bleach episodes, but if they searched for torrent sites, they might find kickass.to, upon which they could find one of those links that Google removed.
Also, anyone who removes their content from 4chan will find it available on more popular sites than they had initially wished to see it on. If they DMCA'd a file, and then DMCA'd it again after it was re-uploaded 5 or so times, they would find it would make its way onto Twitter, Reddit, Tumblr, Facebook, etc... and the Internet would make a stink about how that company has been trying to censor shit. It's a fruitless endeavor.
Your argument was "Do you really think companies are going to waste their resources filing DMCA requests" which the link clearly shows that they do waste their time filing DMCA requests when available.
If they are willing to do that for things that can be found anywhere else like Bleach is isn't hard to imagine they would also come here to complain things.
so something big is really going on (inb4 muh dick) and they needed to have the power to remove posts that will write about it. So once posts that are not about that bitch nudes gets deleted that is the thing
>I didn't read the thread, but here's my opinion, lol
>By the time the request is processed the thread will already be gone anyway
>This changes nothing.
these things can be automated. hopefully, moot will NOT do that... otherwise, good bye 4chan
>A restriction on sharing is a large change in culture, a change limited only by the imagination of the US copyright system.
This is why there's a movement to promote a society where we share FREE culture. Stop supporting the jews who produce restricted culture. Stop paying attention to that sort of culture. Instead, look for culture where you're encouraged to share with everybody.
Yes they do.
You hipster neckbeards just want to seem cool, and you think not knowing who world famous celebrities are will achieve that. Truth is, it won't, you just sound like a shut in that never leaves 4chan.
wut? I thought he did the opposite with thread pruning? Right when a thread 404s now I can't even hover over thumbnails. I remember being able to awhile ago
Can this bitch just be defamed? You faggots remember when scientology tried to get tom cruises shitfest video removed from the internet? This is getting to be pure faggotry, and honestly the overnet is dun fur.
why aren't my images being cached? On a couple of particular occasions I knew a thread was going to 404 soon so I clicked the button "expand all images" after that I manually scrolled through the thread to actually make sure all images were expanded. Then 5 minutes later when the thread was 404ed the expanded images reduced to thumbnails and I couldn't hover
like I said earlier, i remember about 4 days ago right when the leaks were happening someone made a thread saying moot changed something and disabled thread pruning. not sure if it was true or not
Upon a recent query of mine into how much time you have to respond to a request, there wasn't a definitive answer.
This leads me to believe 24 hours is practical for a site of this size/administration.
Given that most threads don't even survive that long, you could in theory ignore any and all dmca requests and just have a script ensure any image links/ posts are terminated around the 18 hour mark just to make sure the request is technically complied with, even with archived threads and such.
If anything the response time is too quick given the inevitable autosaging.
Didn't this shit happen with the tom cruise video??? DMCA notices everywhere!
This is all just a way to get 4chan or /b/ constantly monitored by the police (Which it probably is anyway) or taken down.
The governments of the world are afraid of /b/ because it brought a new enemy that they simply didn't know how to fight. Anonymous.
Now they spend crazy amounts of money making anon-e-moose memes and other shit to tear the users apart. For fuck sake did they not just get ariana grande to sing the national anthem to make her look more innocent just to outrage more people over these leaks??
Somebody needs to make a good infographic explaining why all this is apple's fault and spam it across the web
>Didn't this shit happen with the tom cruise video??? DMCA notices everywhere!
Lawyers gonna lawyer.
>This is all just a way to get 4chan or /b/ constantly monitored by the police (Which it probably is anyway) or taken down.
No-one cares about /b/, and there isn't any plot to pull it down. If there was, why would they bother being subtle?
>The governments of the world are afraid of /b/ because it brought a new enemy that they simply didn't know how to fight. Anonymous.
>Now they spend crazy amounts of money making anon-e-moose memes and other shit to tear the users apart.
Pretty sure 4chan can do that on it's own.
>Somebody needs to make a good infographic explaining why all this is apple's fault and spam it across the web
Did I just get trolled? If so, well done.
>people that are so much brainwashed by our carefully planned and constructed "culture" that they cant even imagine someone not following the trends
just wow humanity
>making anon-e-moose memes
4chan is capable of doing that retarded shit itself.
"ANANAMOUYSE" with the retarded V for Vendetta mask was originally fail guy, a perpetual failure no matter what he did, and the way those fucking retarded faggots claiming to be Anonymous act, I would say it is true to form.
Oh holy guaccamole fuckshit cunt with chockolate-pisstains all over it do none of you kids know how to operate a search engine!?
I had not even heard of 1chan before and after 10 seconds of google and 3 minutes of lurk, I managed to figure out that
>1chan is sign-up and invite-only
>1chan is active, but slower than /f/
>1chan is roughly the same as 4chan, except all boards are red for some reason. dunno if that means nsfw ahoy. also some weird tagging system instead of boards
>the ED article is part of the diversion tactic