>>45433969 I fucking hate this. Why do people on board keep bashing on gaming. Sure, discussing gaming topics is a no no, but you can't deny people need technology for gaming, and this is the place to go.
Have you seen the pc building thread a while ago on /v/? They started discussing whether you need an I7 or an I5 and 16 or 32 Ram for simply gaming.
>>45435162 I'm saying that gamers would aim for higher fps first, looks second. That being said, if you have no budget limit, go for a 30k gaming PC, I don't care, but as long as you're on a budget, you're gonna have to stick to TN, unless you want to spend $400 on a 144hz screen.
Korea is too expensive but still not that good. They're just a more expensive China. If you want a quality monitor get one made in a real country, like Japan. Korean made is no better than Taiwan, but way more expensive.
>>45435489 I'd rather prefer a brand that I know can give me a replacement screen if it gets broke. I don't trust koreans to actually make good stuff, plus it's probably a bitch to get a warranty there. I might be just biased, but that's my opinion. I can only afford the Asus VG248QE, so that's what I'm going to get.
I know VA is good, but IPS is just better, and you are wrong. I DO want color accuracy in Games, I've calibratet everything with Spyder and use different profiles for every Programm/Game via Color Sustainer.
Besides that I 60hz for me is not Smooth enough, plus Blur and Tearing kills me. Even on Slow Games like WoW.
I also watch movies interpolated to 120fps.
>>45435902 Than don't buy it, wheres the difference between Amazon or Ebay? Educate yourself.
>>45435967 Where did I say it was not good quality? It wasnt meant sarcastic.
>>45436017 >color accuracy >in games You dont even seen to understand why people want color accuracy on a panel. Spoiler alert: its not so they can have accurate colors for developer created beings.
Trading a contrast ratio that is 6-7 times higher and a proper black value for color accuracy of digitally created content is utterly retarded. There's no value in the model matching the exact same blue it was created in.
Its something you want if you do a lot of photo and video editing. It might be an OK trade for games if you run them at 60Hz, but since youre implying that you run every game at 120 (which is complete bullshit) it sure as hell isnt. And if all of them run at 120fps they probably look like shit anyway, ergo color accuracy is even more pointless.
How much of your time before your PC do you spend gaming? If its 70%+ then If in that 70%+ you spend most of it in fast moving competitive FPS games (no Dota will never count here) you have succesfully justified the 24", 1080p 120hz TN display.
If you also watch movies, series, anime, browse the net and basically consume most virtual content on this monitor - and you are definitely not a hard core competitive FPS gamer (and competitive doesnt mean pubstomping) - then you should get an IPS monitor.
You don't have to go for a korean one, and if you do you don't have to bother with overclocking (even though for nvidia thats literally just making a custom resolution)
I'm sure you can buy at the worst, a good quality 1080p IPS.
I did get the qnix2710, in the EU, for $320, pixel perfect - 10 months ago, I can only believe it is dirt cheap now. Thats the same price I paid for my dell U2412m before, and thats such a piece of shit compared to the korean its scary.
So if you feel up for it, I'd delve into that Qnix overclockers topic, learn about your risks (take some salt with you, since everyone who ever had a problem has posted in that topic, but barely any of those who are completely satisfied, like me) and find a good vendor in the topic.
What you can count on is a 96hz OC, many fails to reach 120hz - mine can reach it with the righ timings, but it doesnt look good with the amount of ghosting it itroduces, 96hz is perfect though.
>>45435937 For freesync the monitor and the graphics card will hafta both support it. Hopefully the first of these monitors will launch early to mid 2015
>>45433608 If you really want a overclockable korean monitor, look at the new tempest overlord. Most of the offbrand korean monitors suffer from bad quality control a bit though. If I had to get a 27" monitor now, I'd probably go for the samsung s27a950D (or s27a750D depending on taste) (though it's only 1080p), if you can find one
>>45436139 Why do you think you need 120fps for 120hz? Why do you think VA excels in Games? Your logic is flawed, probably you own a Eizo and try to defend your Panel. Spoiler Alert: you aren calibrate your colors just for the sake of color accuarcy.
>>45436161 Well, that's one of my main issues, I've been stuck on outdated hardware for a while now, and I have a TN monitor currently (1280x1024 @ 75hz), and I don't feel it's bad or anything. I looked up some prices, and the asus is really pushing my budget already, that's why I picked it. Plus, it's pretty much guaranteed that I won't have any issues with it.
With the qnix, I read that there could be quite a few problems. Not to mention, I would have to get it from ebay, and pay quite a bit on shipping.
>>45436191 >you aren calibrate your colors just for the sake of color accuarcy Now youre changing topics, beautiful. No one ever argued about calibration but the value of color accuracy in games which goes towards 0. The difference between VA and IPS isnt big enough to claim that its valuable.
>>45436238 What is it with you clowns and calibration? You should also calibrate a fucking TN panel, that has literally nothing to do with the topic.
The strength of an IPS panel is that is can provide the most accurate colors, nothing else. The contrast is mediocre, the black values are mediocre. And since color accuracy is worthless in video games and its hardly possible to see a disctinct color depth difference between a non shit VA and a good IPS panel you trade worthless color accuracy for less contrast and blacks.
Unless you use the panel for multimedia purposes, watching movies, doing photoshop or almost exclusively play 60fps locked console games etc, theres literally no reason to get an IPS panel for games.
Then my personal opinion and advice is to buy a normal, cheap 60hz IPS 1080p screen, and simply hold out for something better.
1440p is coming and probably going, 4k is coming and is here to stay. freesync, g-sync is on its way and here too, theres been news of real 120hz IPS displays too (the korean ones are still not 'true' since pixel shift time is too low for that)
And god fuck me but hopefully OLED will come too.
You can get used to any type of a monitor - only after you've used something considerably better will you notice its faults, but 2014 seems like a horrible year to buy monitors - unless its a korean one becuse that is really a good deal for what you get (as you say, if you have no issues).
Sucks to hear that, pretty gay, though its still just as cheap I guess but I was maybe hoping to pick up another one.
And yeah, the stand sucks shit and the whole thing looks like a cheap TV - which is probably why I didnt have to pay VAT on it when they brought it into the country, prolly thought its a shitty cheap chink TV not worth checking out.
This depends on vendors, which is why looking through that megathread is important. I bought from kcci_us or who the dick, after I've seen like 10 reports of people receiving flawless displays from him. Mine came, its absolutely flawless blb and pixels wise. Each vendor sets their own return policy, make sure BLB is absolutely not permitted.
>>45436419 >Dude, you are annoying as fuck And youre purposely missing the point. You dont have any standards. Youre a marketing victim, nothing else who tries his hardest to put words in other peoples mouths.
No one even claimed that calibrating a monitor is bad. It never was up for discussion.
>>45436435 I'm not planning on upgrading anytime soon. I buy a new PC every 6 years or so, and it's done me fine so far. That's why I try to get as good hardware as I can with my budget, and if I get a subpar screen right now, I might regret it and will have to stick with it for a while.
120hz on the qnix isnt "real" man, the refresh rate is - but IPS panel pixel color changing times are too slow to keep up. You can check on testufo that the higher you put the refresh rate, the more ghosting it introduces, at 120hz with constant movement (like an FPS) on the screen, the crystals never even get to display the supposed color at all, they have to start changing again before finishing one cycle.
I found it even visually annoying in many games, its not as severe at 96hz so I stuck to that.
>>45436578 >dodging the topic again Youre not even trying anymore, are you? You make false accusations, claim that people dont value proper calibration and then start to backpedal as soon as someone calls you out for your bullshit.
>>45436675 you are SO wrong, so fucking wrong, there many qnix versions, one which skip frames, the other dont, I have REAL 120hz, the UFO test was the first thing I did.
>>45436696 I Backpaddle? I just dont give a fuck about idiots like you, I allready explained that just because YOU don't value color calibrations in games, it doenst mean no one does. You are just stupid and got rekt previous by the other guy. stop beeing a madcunt
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