>>45531612 I'm glad I don't know any hipsters that say this. Also >read a real book >have to constantly shift from one side to the other when turning pages because the book isn't balanced. Books are a hassle, I'm not a sentimental person it's the words on the page I'm interested in not the paper.
Cant wait for the day that we get extremely sturdy/cheap replacements for paper in the form of crumpable/foldable tablets. They might even outlast an average book that could get rot or whatever from moisture.
>>45531612 I want an e-ink device that I can put arbitrary pdf's on, with an SD card, where I can download from whatever archive I want, without DRM, without all that worthless bullshit that makes it "feel like a real book" to the accounting firms who are running these shitty IP leeching companies.
>>45537085 >>45537113 PDFs come in various forms on devices and are made for some devices over others. Manga and graphic novels (comics) are one example of this. Newspapers are another. Some require you to rotate the reader, some don't.
Why do people think that just because they have never experienced something before, it's stupid or useless? Fucking plebs.
>>45537778 I have dedicated laptop for on the go works, and a desktop for heavy duties, also entertainment. iPad is fucking restrictive. Also, my websites are real websites, not some Wordpress shit, so a real computer is needed to manage them.
>>45537860 >What about iPad is restrictive again? Debugging websites on iPad is the worst nightmare, almost on the level of debugging on IE. Touch keyboard is a fucking joke. No real text editor/project browser. Oh, and the shell. Nothing beats a real shell like zsh. I have nothing against Apple, I own an iPhone. But if you tell me to waste my money on an iPad, you will get a slap in the face.
>read a lot as a child >out of HS suddenly just not picking books up any more, feels bad man, too much TV >start reading on cellphone before bed, when I wake up >suddenly mowing through novels like their nothing Using the power of not wanting to get out of bed for good. Also you don't need the perfect device to really enjoy literature
I prefer reading real books. Tactilely they're more enjoyable in a few ways, its easier to flip between pages or skim, they don't depend on a charge, there are never formatting issues or DRM to worry about. They're all minor concerns, but if I have the choice between reading a physical book and the same book on my kobo I'll read the real book. E-readers are so fucking ridiculously convenient though. If I want to read something I can find and download it in 30 seconds for free, then carry it around with dozens of other books that weigh nothing and take no space. Mine is even waterproof, so it takes getting dropped into a hottub or something better than a real book. No more going to public libraries, finding they don't have a book in stock, placing an order for it, waiting a week for it to get in, going back to pick it up, reading it, and going back to drop it off. Unless you work in a library or a bookstore or something and can get basically anything you want, there's no reason not to own one if you like to read.
>>45531710 >>45531752 In all seriousness, this is a PaperWhite. For some reason it lasted well over a month the first charge. On the second charge and beyond it barely lasted a few days, and that's with me not even using it.
>>45541859 >I'm considering the Aura HD Don't forget to consider that there isn't a good ereader the same size as most of the manga you want to read on it, so everything will be scaled down to fit the screen. It's a right pain in the ass when the typesetter crams everything into one box and shrinks the font down to fit it all in.
meh, I rarely read books, but every time I've tried reading an "ebook" I just loose focus and think "I could be surfing the internet right now, playing video games or do some work". Also the backlighting strains my eyes and no, turning it off is not a fucking alternative. Guess I'm a bookfag.
I have a Kindle 2 that is still going strong and it has a text to speech feature the newer ones don't have that I use one car trips, the only problem I have with it is that the battery is starting to fade.
>>45545303 I heard the Paperwhite can't turn off the backlight. That'd be really bothersome and bad for the battery, one of the reasons I like ebooks is the clarity of the screen without actually needing a backlight at all times.
Otherwise, I don't really know which one would be better.
Reading an actual book really is a bit more nice than reading on an eBook reader. But I don't like having a light on. Once I got a Paperlight I started reading so much more. And with the super Prime rent a book each month for free thing I got to read quite a few books I would have never checked out just like that but boy, I enjoyed reading them a lot. And bought the actual, physical book afterwards.
It can't turn it off completely, yes. I only read in the dark so I don't mind but my first Paperwhite got a scratch in the display which wasn't noticeable at all when the light was off (in the standby mode), but as soon as the light/the device was on, there were huge streaks of light across the screen. So, yeah, that sucked.
Anyway, with an unscratched display I don't care about the backlight being constantly on
I can't tell you how well it compares since I only got the H2O, but its a great step up from my paperwhite.
Supposedly the H2O feels better to hold for left-handed people compared to the HD, since the HD had a non-symmetrical back.
Protip: Don't hold your H2O under a running faucet. It's waterproof if you submerge it in the bathtub, but a jet of water will still get into the cracks around the power button. Mine randomly turned on and off for a few days after.
>>45531612 That seems like a perfectly valid reason to not use an ereader to me, that's as retarded as complaining about something like >I just prefer the sound of vinyl >I just prefer the feel of a mechanical keyboard >I just prefer the feel of a manual transmission
Hi guys. I am not really around here much, so I apologised if I make any mistakes in this post.
I just wanna ask: will there realistically be a colour e-ink ebook from the big companies (Amazon, Sony? etc) anytime soon? I really want a good quality device that can read colour pages but tablets are hurting my eyes.
I heard somewhere that they are not doing it because it is not profitable, I just wanna know if they will figure out a way to use that incredible technology which is colour e-ink.
I do like the feeling of a real book. Paper between your hands just feels better and no resolution will ever be equal to actual printing. Being able to put your finger between pages is something an ereader can't provide.
And I still have an ereader for both books and mango. It's a different feel, not a worse feel. It depends a lot on where you are and what you read imo.
>>45536734 I removed the drm from the only book I ever bought. I injected an empty account into the sql database of my kobo so that I can use it without an account. I update it manually. I can get any book DRM free that I want from a russian website. Literally any book. You have the library of congress at your finger tips, why would you want to avoid that?
>>45544984 Give her a year or two and you'll see her using it better than you, making programs for it, learning stuff you didn't know existed and posting nudes of herself online without your knowledge.
>>45547644 I'm not that guy but it's obvious what he was trying to say. You're just interpreting it wrong and acting like the other guy is the one wrong when you're the one who doesn't appear to understand nomenclatures.
>>45548202 >I never used an ereader before You did well to get it. The PRS-505 remains one of the best ereaders around in terms of construction and utility. It's a real shame sony moved to touchscreens, and then killed the consumer e-reader line.
>>45548309 That was a pretty lucky find, generally they're more like 20 or 25 on ebay. I started looking for a deal after seeing someone talk about theirs on /g/ a while ago. The battery lasts forever, you can put custom firmware on it (prs plus) for more features, and it uses regular SD cards along with the onboard storage. It doesn't have a touch screen, backlight, internet connectivity, or anything fancy really. The interface isn't super fast, it takes a second or so to change pages or select menu items. There are no speakers, but it has a headphone jack if you want to listen to music through it, but I don't know who would really want that. You'll have to use calibre or something to convert non-book things to LRF if you want to read them, since it doesn't handle PDF or CBZ well.
>>45548407 It was a pretty good buy. I'd definitely recommend it to someone who doesn't know if they would like using an ereader. It's definitely better than spending $100+ on something with a ton of extra features that most people don't need.
>>45548421 >as long as they dont do micro text you wouldnt even be able to read on a normal pc monitor it works flawlessly. "flawlessly" is an overstatement. Small text is readable, but not comfortably so. They can throw more pixels at the problem, but that's not going to help much at this point. I'm lucky enough to have elbows, so I can move my kobo closer to my face to compoensate for the smaller page area - but that doesn't mean that the reduced size is ideal. An 8 to 10 inch Kobo HD would be preferable.
>>45548462 Interesting, and here I thought ebook readers had no tweaks and added side functionality Going to look for a cheap Sony >>45548547 >It doesn't have a touch screen, backlight, internet connectivity, or anything fancy really. Just what I wanted. 15 vs 20-25 is no difference. >doesn't handle PDF well how much effort would it be to convert to LRF? Are there any downsides? What model are you talking about again? Sorry, new to the ebook market but interested
>>45548664 >I'm a sucker for small and portable. I like it to be no larger than the average book >>45548547 so is the PRS-505 really a solid choice? I really want one to consume pdfs and the barebone features and pricepoint is really appealing to me.
>>45548735 I just use it for ebooks and manga. I don't think it would be good for PDFs, since it's slow and has a small screen. If the pdf is just text you could convert it into a faster format, but if it's image and formatting heavy it's not going to look good even if it's size is optimized, because the screen is small and low res. Most pdfs are pretty big too, which wont work well. Basically they're slow and unreadable, I wouldn't recommend it. The thing is from 2007.
>>45542146 our brains didn't evolve for fucking books you absolute retard. they evolved for hunting and gathering. we have the capacity to learn to read books but it's a learned behaviour you stupid cunt
I'm looking into getting the Onyx Boox M96. The T68 has some issues, but from the reviews I've seen of the M96 in seems solid.
> 9.6" for reading my manga (Inb4 weeb) I find a larger screen were comfortable to read on > Android 4.0 is decently modern and has good app support > stylus input (no fingerprints!) > Bluetooth so I can use a real keyboard and do writing on this > 3+ week battery life I've literally been waiting for something like this to come out. Just need it to be actually in stock somewhere or suck up the premium and buy one off fleeceBay.
I have a rooted Nook Simple Touch. Works well, but Android 2.2 is archaic. Also screen is way to small for manga.
Spoken like a true pleb that can't read at a decent speed. On my last 3 week trip I read through both Hyperion and Endymion books, and three other books. Just because you're too limited to understand the value it has to other people doesn't mean it's useless.
>>45549046 >>45548808 I see. Thank you for your input. I will need to look at something with possibly a bigger screen that can into PDFs although I doubt I'm talking less than 100USD with that feature list Hell, might just get the 505 for less demanding content (mango and books like you said)
>>45549264 >literally rushing through the Hyperion series And you call me a pleb. God forbid you ever read Gene Wolfe, you will unironically think it's shit because the value is in carefully re-reading and evaluating subtle hints in each scene
You just keep making yourself look even more limited intellectually. Some people might just be able to read faster than you and still understand what they're reading. You can read the first Hyperion volume on a 5 hour train ride. But please, keep believing everyone is just like you.
I like the smell of books but I absolutely hate the texture of your average paperbacks pages. It's like nails on a chalkboard. If my hands are the slightest bit dry every page turn becomes a chore.
I find that when I try and read a paperback I get 20 pages in and stop because I get so irritated that I can't be bothered. If it's a book with higher quality paper, like in a lot of hardbacks, I can read for hours without even thinking about it.
>>45549348 >5 hours No really, no matter how intelligent you believe you are, you rushed that book. People that literally read novels as fucking data books where they have to get to the next plot revelation are pure fucking cancer
>>45549306 Look at the Onyx Boox M96, reviews are very positive about it's PDF capabilities. It's expensive for an ereader, but way cheaper than the Sony Digital Paper. If you need to read PDFs that much you're likely using it for work or academics, so maybe a tax write off.
>>45549503 >rates his intelligence on pages read speed lol, continue believing you are actually enjoying these books, fucking pleb If you're reading 100 pages an hour you are not fucking immersed, not even slightly. You are just taking in words. Did you even stop to imagine parts like the simulations of battles like Agincourt? Or were they just pages to be skipped through for you because finding out muh mystery was more important? I put the book down at tons of points to simply imagine scenes playing out
>>45549622 >I was so immersed >harry potter ran down the corridor im totally imagining this its like castle walls or something who cares about the background lol >when characters interact i literally imagine just them two with a black background becuz then i can focus on them talking im so in teh scene >lel no i couldnt tell u any of the descriptions of stuff, who cares about that XD
How could you get immersed in a fast paced scene if you read it slowly? I think it depends on the plot situation, some warrant faster reading than others.
>>45549630 >rates his intelligence on pages read speed I never even said that, I just said you're too stupid to understand that people have differing reading speeds. But I guess you're also too stupid for basic reading comprehension. You not only read slow but fail to understand what you read too? >continue believing you are actually enjoying these books So what I'm considering "enjoyment" is actually not enjoyment? Are you the enjoyment police? >Did you even stop to imagine parts Do you also have to stop and remember to breathe? Imagination happens automatically while you read. You don't have to stop and force imagination. >Kill yourself babby mad
>>45549671 Yeah I imagine up to a point whilst reading. If I'm powering through the book those images aren't going to be around long, replaced by the next. I really doubt you are actually getting a full grasp of each scene doing this
Actually stopping and imagining the scene at the pace it occurs is how to actually read a book
>babby mad So basically you're just a dumb speed reading faggot. Good to know, as if I didn't already
>>45549492 At those pricepoints I'll just read PDFs on my Chinkpad. Damn, why hasn't eink gotten cheaper. I mean, what's so special about it? The only advantage I see is reduced eye strain + dedicated reading device. Eh, anyway, I think I will get a 505 for my general purpose reading and read PDFs somewhere else. The only pluses for me is that it is a portable reader with a good battery life and the more eye friendly eink
>acting like pace is a universal measure of time Pace is subjective. What some people consider slow paced is normal pace for others. >you're just a dumb speed reading faggot babby really mad. Don't worry, when you grow up you can learn to read fast as well.
Btw, speed reading is about 1500 wpm, while my reading speed is maybe 550 wpm. Your 50 wpm reading speed is not normal.
I'm really in doubt what to get. I was eagerly waiting for the new big nexus product, but after reading a couple of reviews, it seems like a hunk of plastic compared to the ipad air 2 and pretty much as the same price point.
I don't really consume that much media, maybe i'd like to browse the web or play your casual game on the can once in a while but that'd be about it.
I need a device I can read on, and I can store some books. I don't travel a lot, and I think I will prefer a bigger size device (8-10"), most of my books are PDF textbooks, some with some rich pictures in them.
I can see the pros and cons of both ways, I'm just really not sure. Is the black and white screen bad for textbooks and shit?
>>45550126 I haven't had any problems but I don't read on it too often. It has a really nice IPS panel and 1920x1080p resolution so that's good. I really like how narrow it is too; it's super easy to palm and read one handed.
>>45550015 fwiw, plastic is a superior material for handheld computers. It's more flexible than metals, lighter, and non-conductive. It can also be naturally non-slip easier than a shiny metal surface.
>>45531845 This about sums it up. For a while I tried to not carry my kindle where I went and bought hard copies. It wasn't too cumbersome, until I travelled for 3 weeks one summer. The amount of books I normally read while traveling filled up half my carry on (I was visiting family, space wasn't too big a concern). Once I got back I bought the new version (paperwhite?) and only buy hard copies for any standard edition of a book a professor is using in discussions.
>>45541258 Have you ever lived in a city? Assuming you make less than $150k a year, your apartment is probably of decent size. If you're an avid reader, your books would take up the space of multiple shelves. Nigga I ain't got that kind of space. I have to keep a lot of my old books at my father's house just so I can have a place to store them.
>>45550828 What do you plan on using it for? If you mostly plan on using it for books, I'd recommend the Nexus. You don't need an iPad's crazy resolution for books. I also like being able to plug flash drives into Android devices.
As for build quality, Nexus devices are better IMO. I prefer soft touch plastic to slippery aluminum. Also, Nexus devices have Android which is a huge plus.
My best advice is to figure out your preferences and decide from there.
>>45542845 fuck, I thought this shit was expensive in 2007 when it was new the ebook market hasn't changed at all fucking Sony Paper is 1000USD what type of a retard buys a 1000USD locked down pdf editing tablet
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