Pros >Beautiful display. HiDPI will spoil you and the colors look great. >Best trackpad ever. This is not hyperbole. Apple laptops have the best trackpads you can get period. >Unix and all that entails (if you care) >All day battery life >Light and thin enough that you can easily forget it's in your bag.
Cons >Lags in some applications under HiDPI (scrolling through applications on dock, PDFs) >Using any web browser but Safari will fuck your battery life >13" is too small to get much "real" work done unless you want to be constantly switching workspaces, or have an external monitor >Designed to run at extremely high temperatures under load (~80-90C) and the heat WILL kill your storage and iGPU after a long enough time. A cooling pad is strongly recommended >No ethernet port, no optical
I like it enough that I haven't sold mine yet but if I could do it all over again, I'd probably buy something else. Also, OS X is overrated. It's a good OS but has flaws just like any other system.
>>45593449 A 15" business-class laptop with a dedicated GPU. I had to carry a backup T400 while my MBPr was at the Apple store being serviced and I didn't miss it as much as l through it would. The Thinkpad wasn't too bad to carry around and I enjoyed having optical, VGA, and ethernet ports.
>>45593450 I honestly don't know. All I know is my battery life is significantly lower under Firefox and Chrome just kills it when it's open.
>>45593252 Bought one a month ago and not sure if I regret it. The display is amazing and having handwritten (STEM) notes on screen are super delicious and unrustling. However, 128 gb storage, Intel Iris no gaymin, is harsh and unforgiving. Also 13' is 2 inch too short imo, but I'm not shelling out 500$ more just for that.
Mistake, but not because you're a shill or blah blah blah /g/ meme. CES is right around the corner. A new model is likely to come out like it does every year. This is the worst possible time to buy any Mac.
>>45594226 doesn't apple have a thing where if you buy one of their products and a new version comes out within a couple months of that, you can return it? I swear they had something like that at one point.
>>45593252 An awesome mistake as long as you do not want to play any gaymens or do 3D modeling it's one of the best laptops I've ever tried. If you like the hardware but not the software? Run Gentoo/Windows/Any other Linux based OS on it!
my battery doesn't get fucked at all when i don't use safari, maybe if i'm watching a live stream flash player will destroy it, but definitely not light browsing. and i also never experienced any lag in any application.
also if you are getting it for programming, 13" is perfectly fine OP, for photo editing etc maybe 15" would be better. switching workspaces/desktops is really easy with customisable hotkeys. and if you were somehow opposed to it workspaces, 2" extra screen real estate probably isnt going to solve it.
if you are a programmer, i would suggest you get one. running a unix-like os natively on a machine without gimping yourself (like linux on most laptops) is godlike
but yeah it can run very hot while running games, probably video rendering etc.
>*A Unix-like (sometimes shortened to nix to circumvent trademark issues) operating system is one that behaves in a manner similar to a Unix system, while not necessarily conforming to or being certified to any version of the Single UNIX Specification.
>There is no standard for defining the term, and some difference of opinion is possible as to whether or not a certain OS is "Unix-like".
OS X is Unix based, and Unix certified like you said. Does that not make it Unix-like? Should I say Unix-based instead?
Is it worth it to buy a secondhand MBP? I'm eying a few models from 2011 and while they're in decent condition I wasn't sure how long Apple usually supports hardware. Think machines from that year will last a few more OS updates?
Mac's are good machines and OSX has a good CLI. No company has made a touchpad as well as Apple. The only reason why it is controversial is because it is perceived to be expensive (find a similar spec laptop and it won't be too much more for the Mac) Apple isn't transparent with their software or part of the opensource and/or free community. If you don't care about those two things then a Mac is great.
>>45594866 Linux is by far the best environment ive programmed in. Great collection of up to date software and everything works nicely together. OSX requires you to jump through hoops just to get a non ancient version of GCC and its Windows Manager and Desktop Environment is pure shit and annoying. Windows is by far the worst.
got here late but clearly mac owners are a minority in /g/ so here goes
Check those specs mate, I honestly hate intel Gpus so i went for a refurb and got a 512 SSD for under 2k
rMBP june 2012 have a 650 facto OCd to 900 MHz effectively making it a 660. OS uses 2gb at most rest is up t ur shit ivi bridge still holds up pretty well, just be sure to put some gc extreme on those heatsinks and youll be good to go.
>>45593450 One of Apple's major selling points is laptop battery life, and they know it. They pump tons of money into engineering all their shit for that exact purpose. In the past few years they've introduced a ton of fine-grained power management features and made changes to stuff like kernel scheduling patterns just to get everything they can out of their hardware.
Chrome isn't designed with that kind of mentality. It's a desktop browser first, and it was always built around using the available CPU power to go as fast as possible. If Apple can sacrifice 1% speed to use 25% less battery life, they'll fucking take that deal. You know it.
Firefox has a lot of problems: Too little manpower to engineer things the way they want, and too crufty a codebase to make major changes. That's why they made Rust and Servo, to offload some of the work to the language/compiler.
>>45595733 >Doesn't Safari have horrible security issues the same as IE usually? Safari's security used to be pretty weak, but lately it works on the same basic principle as Chrome: Run dangerous code in sandboxed processes so there's a whole VM's worth of extra security layers to break out of before you can do any damage. However, the way it implements this is via OS X's native sandbox capabilities, meaning it's faster but less portable.
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