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Was just about to post in old thread. I joined the HD800 master race today. Time to pick out an amp and DAC. Have an intermediary amp already but definitely need a DAC.
Reposting cause I didn't get a response in the old thread.
I'm looking to get an amp/dac soon, but I'm stuck between a few options and I wanted another opinion.
I'm choosing between:
The amp/dac will be paired with HD 558s, I have no idea which of these to pick.
Looking for advice on new pair of headphones around 50 dollar range. Will be using with laptop for general use but music will be the most frequent. The only headphones I've had before this point are HTF600's which have broken after a year and a half. I would have just bought another pair but they seem to have doubled in price when I wasn't looking. Looking for something that I can wear for 8 to 12 hours comfortably.
If I have to pay 60 for the same ones I had before, I will, but I would rather not.
Audioengine D1 if you wish to run speakers off the RCA out in the back. You can sometimes snag them on Massdrop for a good deal. I've got one and like it.
The Mav is good, but doesn't compare to the Schiit stack. Any tube amps with DACs are going to be shit in your price range, and the Aune T1 has a tube pre-amp, not a tube amp.
Your HD558s should be good with a D1. You don't need much else. Though a Schiit stack would be the next option--the O2+DAC the next.
From what I've read, the D1+ only uses the tubes for the speaker out, and is there something wrong with it using tubes? I've heard many people say good things about the tube out.
Just got some Shure SRH840s today. I like them, they're pretty good.
Been looking for some closed headphones under a $100 and I ended up with the HD 280's or the 7506's. I want them to listen to jrock, jpop, rock and alike.
I also found the HD 380 on amazon at $115, but I don't know how they compare to the 7506's which are $80 atm on amazon.
The t1 is NOT a tube amp. It is a tube DAC. There is nothing wrong with tubes it's just they are known to produce a more warmer sound along with a slightly larger soundstage.
Compared to the m&m stack, there have been reviews where the t1 sounds and potentially has the capability to sound better than the stack with a proper tube.
Heading out shopping tomorrow, think I'm going to grab one of the bottom tier STAX.
looking at the Audio-Technica ATH-A900X closed back style that was discontinued.
Lots of good reviews and they look neat imo, thoughts on them?
need a recommendation, I'm a total noob
looking to spend up to 150$ preferably less.
Sound quality should obviously be good but I'm far from a snob.
Need to be compatible with Pc, ps3, ps4, vita and mobile/android. WIIU would be nice, as much as possible really.
Tonal balance doesn't matter to me
would like at least some isolation
need the things to be reliable, I'm here because i'm sick of 30$ headphones breaking every couple months.
Needs to be shaped like the apple ones or generic sony buds as nothing else fits in my ears, open to headsets if any are decent, a mic would be nice but this is more for music than gaming.
my music taste is fairly varied but I do like some heavy stuff, industrial, alternative, baroquecore, but also stuff like cash and classical.
I'm in ontario Canada
thanks in advance.
Sense of spaciousness. It provides positional awareness, for example, if someone is walking behind of you on your left side, etc.
Headphones with a "small", "narrow", etc, soundstage will sound more as if the sound is coming from within your head. Headphones that have a "big", "wide" soundstage will sound as if sounds are coming from the room.
Yea, Just have to hope the store has it in stock, last time I went they had the entire line from STAX on display for testing and purchase.
Akiba, and Yodabashi in Yokohama.
Just like how I picked my Dali Lektor 1s up in store.
Go on the international STAX website and look for their distributors worldwide. Many countries have shops that sell STAX headphones. If you live nearby, well, you can go and pick them up.
nothing wrong with using tubes. it's a matter of personal preference.
nothing against tubes. the t1 is just a piece of shit. it doesn't give you true tube sound. they fuckin use leds to light up the tube
Hey, looking for some help
Some Creative X-Fi Card (don't hate me I like the X-fi effect)
>Requirements for Isolation
>Preferred Type of Headphone
>Preferred tonal balance
Mid to high
The older, discontinued models sound better and they lack the infamous STAX etch in the upper mids/low treble regions.
The new stuff is also quite overpriced I feel; the SRS-2170 system costs around $700 for example and just for a bit more, you can get the HiFiMan HE-560 which blow them out of the water.
If he were really in Japan then I would still hunt for second-hand units at Fujiya Avic. If you're lucky you can probably get a Lambda Pro and SRM-1/MK2 combo for around the same price.
post your audio set ups
still loving the HD650
Yeah I'm really debating whether I want to get that involved higher-end headphones. I can't really tell if it's bullshit or not and I don't know anyone who has a setup I can try for myself. But my current headphones, although sounding well enough, are hurting my head. Feels bad man, probably just going to buy some $100 IEMs.
Didn't know where else to post this, but i figured this was a good enough place, because there are probably enough audiophiles lurking this thread.
Does anyone else here experience ASMR? I just found out about this today listening to the radio but ive been experiencing this since I was a kid when ever I heard certain beautiful songs. It isn't triggers by weird noises like some people, but with really complex engaging songs, and listening to beautiful music through some nice headphones really triggers it as well.
Just curious if anyone else has experienced this phenomena.
I'm starting to hate living in Canada.
I wasn't able to grab the K7XX since they weren't being shipped to Canada and now the HD600 promo code is invalid because Canada.
Only song that works for me, specifically at 3:09 when the strings kick in, and then it builds up more with the piano then the vocal samples. It works best if you listen to the whole thing from the beginning.
Eh, too lazy to go into technical details. The company behind it isn't known for making good products. Their monitors are overpriced garbage.
If it's at the top of your list though, just buy it. You might be satisfied with it.
Holy shit. The HD650 is $313 on amazon right now, fucking jump on that if you want some of the best open headphones for cheap as hell. I got mine for $450 a couple months ago.
Ive never used the 595, but I own the 558, and use to have the 598. The 650 is in a completely different league, imo. Way more refined in every way possible. It does need an amp to get the most out of the though.
Was just curious if there was something super awful with it. Seems like the differences between most DACs are minimal anyway, so it seemed surprising to see it singled out as a problem child.
I've only locked my eyes on this one because it's one of the few systems under $400 that supports both usb and optical inputs, still has rca outputs, and isn't running off usb power. Seems understandable that this could be a "too good to be true" package.
>I'm about to buy Sennheiser HD 598s because they look like the most comfortable headphones. Am I wasting my money?
You don't need to pay that much for a comfortable set of headphones. They are very comfortable, though.
i love how no one even tries to argue with that
>Would 558s be just as comfortable?
More or less. The single difference is the material of the headband cushion, which is a fabric on 558 and a fake leather on 598. The fake leather is probably easier to clean off the oils your head leaks, but you won't feel a difference unless you're bald.
Welcome to the club.
First off register the headphones and request the certificate for freq response ( if you want to EQ for perfect neutrality ). Second HD800 is not very hard to drive. Try a schiit stack if you are from america as i think its pretty inexpensive. I wanted to originally go with a schiit amp & dac but import cost was too much.
I think the schiit stacks match HD800 very well.
Also if you are not going to use EQ i would recommend tubes over solid state for HD800.
this is exactly the one i mean
awesome price you have there, got mine for 77€
you can't get a more neutral headphone for <200€
bould quality is great and it's really comfy
there's no reason getting the M50s if you can get these beauties
Are you retarded? There are plenty of AKG vendors in Canada. Headphonebar in Vancouver and Axe Music in Edmonton are two with large net presences. Fuck even NCIX has gotten into the premium headphone sales business.
I'm buying some Skullcandy SK Pros next week. /g/ likes Audio Techno but I don't know anybody on grindr that likes that shit. Skullcandy is top shelf professional. They are the best period.
I just noticed that Sennheiser HD 518 is yet again the exact same fucking thing except the Frequency response, Total harmonic distortion, and Sound pressure level are different than HD 558 by one number. Buying these for $79.
i play quakelive at the highest level of competitive duel and i am using speakers.
i was wondering if anyone could recommend some good headphones within the $50-100 range that you might recommend a "pro (kek) gamer" that should be able to register/differentiate between minute sound cues. not the earbud kind
>read the sticky and was thinking of going with Sennheiser HD 518
help very much appreciated
just grabbed these DT 250 bad boys a few days back
Are the best headphones for under $50/£30 still Sennheiser HD 202?
Looking for the best in that budget.
fujitsu amilo laptop, soon to be new one
>Requirements for Isolation
>Preferred Type of Headphone
>Preferred tonal balance
samsung earphones, meh.
I considered sennheiser hd202 II, they are in my pricerange. Are they good=
I finally got my KZ ed3 a couple of days ago.
Bought it for 7$ from aliexpress.
I am quite impressed with the build quality of the housing.
It's metal and it feels very solid, without being too heavy.
But the cable feels a bit flimsy and thin.
I'm not an audiophile but i guess it's a little bass heavy.
And the drums sounds thin? compared to my dt880.
Overall , 8/10 would buy again. It's fucking cheap and looks nice.
God bless China.
We just call that frission.
>request the certificate for freq response
>if you want to EQ for perfect neutrality
Nonsense. Might as well make adjustments with a sledgehammer.
Yeah I've been through the 1k to 2k DACs, they are nice, but they don't make as much of an impact as the source and speakers/headphones upgrades.
Thanks, I've always been a non EQ guy. And I noticed my TEAC desktop amp drives the headphones pretty easily, I just don't have a clean signal going to the amp. I'm using a shit 3.5mm trs splitter to RCA. I was also considering maybe just a WA7 Firefly.
I'm really tempted to get these, but the M50x can fold and have a pouch for transportation and detachable cable. Still, probably not worth the 70€ more at the moment.
How likely are the M50x to go on sale/have a price drop in the near future?
Why go through the trouble of getting a balanced amplifier and placebo cables if they aren't balanced as well?
No one. This is shitposting supreme. Try stuff out for yourself. Amazon has a return policy, so you can try out all the top picks in your price range.
Fuck you. That's not ASMR. That's called frisson you fucking misinformation spreading jackass. ASMR isn't frisson. There's a difference.
Pic related is not available in my country yet.
The 518 is open, I'm looking for a closed one.
Any one in here with the HD 380's? Differences between this and the 7506's?
never heard them but judging from every other sennheiser headphone, it won't have the harsh and sibilant highs of the sony, but it will also be worse in every other aspect. bass, detail, build quality, comfort, all worse.
IMO it's not worth buying sennheiser until you get up to the 558, many other companies do cheap stuff better.
I already have the 555, and they are pretty much the same.
Then, you prefer the 7506's after the Sennheiser's?
hey guys, probably a dumb question but I could use the help. I plan on picking up the beyerdynamic DT 880 Premium 250 ohm headphones and I'm just trying to decide which dac and amp to get.
Up until a few days ago I was going to get a magni/modi schiit stack, but now there are "uber" versions of both.
My question to you all is: is it worth it to get the uber versions of either the dac or amp (Or both)? Or am I fine with the basic versions? I plan on doing most of my listening through my laptop. Thanks so much for your help.
Chances are that the laptop already outputs transparent audio quality. Most modern realtek cards are sufficient enough to be used as inputs into amps. They just suck at powering headphones directly.
What's the next logical upgrade after Focal Spirit Pros?
A well made splitter shouldn't deteriorate the quality of the signal significantly enough for you to notice.
I've heard good things about the WA7, but take that with a grain of salt. At that price point, most of the buyers will be self-proclaimed "audiophile" retards.
>this irrational hatred towards Schiit
I don't understand this at all. They're probably the only company based in the USA which provides reasonably priced gears across the various price points; instead of castigating them more companies should follow suit.
It least the shitposting has lessened somewhat, but >>45613403
>There is nothing wrong with tubes it's just they are known to produce a more warmer sound along with a slightly larger soundstage.
No one should ever believe something so stupid.
Maybe you don't NEED a DAC, no one needs minutely better audio quality. But you can't say that a DAC won't help. Even if it makes a small difference, it's still a difference, and isn't that what being an audiophile is all about?
I've got an O2, a Yamaha RX-V775 receiver, a Yamaha M40 power amplifier and a STAX SRM-313. You decide.
The issue for me is when people quite literally waste money on $1000 DACs and cables that do not improve the sound quality at all and then pretend it does because they are experiencing placebo.
The continuous stream of placebophile bullshit makes actual knowledge harder to obtain for everyone.
The DAC is less than absolutely necessary.
Schiit can lower overhead by being direct to market with no middlemen. The downside is that it is harder demo a Schiit product.
I think they need a bit more thorough beta process, not as badly as Hifiman does.
Falls into the common trap of being audio jewelry that is more form over function.
I'll acknowledge that there are diminishing returns when it comes to DAC/Amps, but within the >$300 range, I think that you'll get the most of your money when it comes to improving the audio vs the onboard audio.
Blame npr, not me, i just heard about asmr on the radio and finally had a word to put of this feeling ive been experiencing forever. Ill call it frisson if it makes you feel better.
honestly can't we agree the 600 and 650 are more similar than they are different? Imo, the 600 is too flat sounding not enough bass, the warmth and bass boost of the 650 just sounds more natural and better to my ears, sounds more realistic and has more life imo.
But really they are all amazing headphones. The 800's are so damn bright though the piercing treble gets to me after awhile. And i refuse to EQ that just gutts all sound quality imo.
I'm looking into getting a pair of the LCD-X. They will be for studio use, but I will of course want to listen to music through them. I'm going to have them going through an Onyx Blackjack into my DAW. My question is, will everything still sound flawless if I'm listening to FLAC through a media player on my desktop with the interface? The Onyx Blackjack is basically a clean, flat DAC and amp in itself, right?
Also, for those who have listened extensively to the LCD-X: I was hoping to get the microsuede cups instead of the leather. Someone mentioned that this reduces the sound stage, though, which I do not want. Can anyone compare the LCD-X's leather cups against the microsuede cups?
HD800 is the ultimate headphone.
Dat build quality
Dat low distortion
The only problem is a 4-5 db peak at 6000 hz which is very easy to EQ down.
The correct answer is they both suck.
They probably could with some substantial redesign to the enclosure, it's commonplace with insert earphones. Easier to do flat bass with a sealed flat diaphragm.
LCD-X is a deceptively difficult load. Should be okay anyway.
Okay /g/, I could use some help looking for some new cans.
Preferably under $350
Most likely from a Schiit Audio combination of Schiit Bifrost Uber and Asgard 2
>Requirements for Isolation
None really required. I'll be using them at home, mostly in a room by myself.
>Preferred Type of Headphone
>Preferred tonal balance
I definitely like bass most. Followed by treble. A U or V shape would be nice for me, with more emphasis on bass.
The only "decent" headset I've owned in the past is V-Moda Crossfade LP's
Mostly electronica. Various sorts of dubstep, drum and bass, combination of the two. Artists like Pendulum and Nero.
Some modern-day metal, like Avenged Sevenfold, Trivium, Bullet for my Valentine
And a bit of classical.
The rest is a combination of anything and everything, that is not often listened to.
I've had my eyes on the Philips Fidelio X1/X2 (Love them, except non-replaceable, or leather, ear cushions.) The AKG K551 (Love it, except for the non-replaceable cable.) Preferably, I'd like something black with silver aluminum accents.
>Pic related, a headphone I LOVE the design of. But is basically double my budget and I can't seem to find any information about. Fostex TH-500-RP
Ive owned the magni/modi 1 and now the bifrost uber/asgard 2, and I can say it is worth the money for the upgrade.
No experience with the new modi/magni though, can't wait to see the first reviews.
Low impedance mean high current ratio to voltage, a more common problem with speakers. More likely to run into current limits, and most devices don't provide too much current to the headphone jacks. The latest LCD-3 is probably their easiest to drive headphone yet.
The blackjack has a fairly high output impedance, so about half(-3dB) of the power gets wasted before going into the LCD-X load.
The th500 is based on the T50rp headphone, as far as I know. The most attractive thing about the th500 is the enclosure.
Sennheiser HD 25-1 II vs V-Moda Crossfade M-80
Which one do you prefer and do I really need to put this much money into commuting on hear headphones ?
I'm aiming for the higher end ones as sometime mid-late next year I think I want to try something in the $700-$800 range. Hence why I'm interested in those Fostex.
>Such a useful response.
Grow up pls
Pretty good, mids and highs sound great, full bass but controlled (much better than the open-back version). Huge soundstage and detail, when I listen to classical music and I can easily hear the seperate instruments.
Many people complain about the wing support not fitting properly but if you use the shoelace trick it will fit perfectly (pic related). I've had them for about 1.5 years now, using it for +6 hours each day, and I've never had any discomfort.
Only complaint would be the non-detatchable cable but I haven't had any problems with it, it's just a nice thing to have.
A solid pair of cans for any type of listening.
Considering buying the Shure SRH550DJ. Are they decent ?
I would rather not buy into any t50rp derivative.
M80s go on sale often. They were recently below 100 IIRC.
HD 25 1 for replaceable parts and isolation, the m80 is ventilated and lacks the treble emphasis of the hd 25.
Measured sensitivity differs greatly from spec. I guess audeze just didn't update their models to show the results with the fazor and new diaphragm. The Opppos aren't too hard to power either.
Are you saying that my Blackjack should be able to drive the LCD-X, then? It can't really drive my DT 880 Pro to a decent level. I need the LCD-X to be rather loud through my interface.
you can fold them too (pic related)
carrying cases for the k551 are also available
but it's up to you how much you are willing to spend
/g/entleman's I have $120 to spend on some headphones, I want a closed one with good isolation and for long term use.
I already have the HD555, AKG 540 and the ATH WS70.
>Req for isolation
The more, the better
Samsung stock earbuds
I want earbuds - they are supposed to be a Christmas present and the receiver refuses to use anything else. Any suggestions /g/?
I don't have either on hand to tell you that, and I don't have your ears either. Doesn't list current either so I can only make rough guesses.
I made a little error before, it would waste about 6-7db before going into the headphone load. There might still be enough voltage left over, but I wouldn't be sure of that without an ammeter, You could just buy a passable headphone amp with some of that LCD-X money.
I feel a tad suspicious about your claim that the LCD-3 is easier to drive than the LCD-X. From the Audeze website:
"The LCD-X is an extremely efficient headphone that extracts the maximum power out of low-powered amplifiers and portable devices."
"The LCD-3 must be driven by an external headphone amplifier or integrated amp."
I'm going off of measurements of the LCD-X and LCD-3. Measured sensitivity of the latest LCD-2/3 is 97-98dB/mW to the LCD-X 95dB.
It makes the simultaneous trade off being higher impedance so it needs more voltage, but the amp will perform a bit more efficiently into high impedance loads. Confused yet?
If you haven't figured it out, I haven't listened to the 2/3 for almost 2 years. They seemed passable off a phone, though I didn't have any spare headroom with power.
I own pair of the LCD-X. Great headphones but not the best choice for studio use in my opinion. You should check out the Fostex TH-900 (yes, closed back, but try them fist if possible). The Lehmann Audio Black Cube Linear (pro) is a great amp for the studio by the way.
Does it means that it leaks sound ?
If the HD 25 are this nice I may go for them, but if I can get the m80 around halk his price, I might just wait for it (so for the post-christmas sale).