Old thread >>45652802
Buying Guide: http://ktgee.net/post/49423737148/thinkpad-guide
>now at $1075 USD
>not wanting a Tadpole ALPHABook 1 with GOAT DEC Alpha RISC CPU + superior OpenVMS OS
I'd have to say there's a high likelyhood that IBM made the keyboard for this machine in their Scotland factory as Tadpole was based in Cambridge.
Looks just like other ThinkPad keyboards of the era.
>>45666130 I don't need it! I don't need it!
I don't need it! I NEED IT!
>buyer: 'poor quality slow service.. not worth what i paid'
Holy shit, a -1 seller rating. If I were the seller I would just make a new account. How does he plan to sell old laptops for 15k with that single shit review?
Also why do they cost so much?
>I'll get one.
Maybe if you get into escort service, you can finance your ThinkPad needs
I've seen bongs pay for 1.5 to 2x amount.
X201 = 100-150 sterlings
X220 = ~200 sterlings
I'm deciding between the x201 or the x220. What would you recommend /g/ with your infinite knowledge
Do you own a thinkpad? This is gonna be my first and i'm sort of lost. I've been looking at the battery slice that works with the x220 to get longer hours with it but i'm unsure because of the price difference.
I had a T420 and now have an X220t.
The X220 with the 9-cell battery should get about 10 hours on its own if the battery is in good condition.
I considered getting a slice, but I haven't needed the extra battery life from my 6-cell battery.
X220 can also take 16GB RAM as opposed to 8GB in the X201, and it can take mSATA SSD's plus the 2.5" drive.
What do you mean?
>I hate the multi-touch screen
I assumed that meant it had something to do with the multi-touch functions, if that's not it, then what?
And what about the X61t's screen makes it better?
I've come to the conclusion that the x220 thinkpad is the one for me. has a displayport out, slice battery, mSATA SSD compatible, can use 16GB RAM and in some cases has a IPS screen. Thanks for the help and are you happy with yours?
The multi touch screen is different than just the normal digitizer screen. I didn't expect the screen quality to be worse. Plus there is no lid latch. The fuck where they thinking.
Isn't the X61 TN though and lower PPI and full-matte? While the X220t is IPS, slightly higher PPI and semi-matte?
What do you mean better? You're talking about colors and brightness, right?
Anyone have experience with getting warranty work done on a secondhand Thinkpad? I'm the anon from >>45659984 in the old thread with problems resuming from suspend. My X220 is still in warranty until the 23rd of this month so I figured I might as well put in for warranty service and see what I get. I'm just asking because the info IBM asked for on warranty service seemed really focused on companies and the text fields weren't big enough for some of the info.
That sucks, is there anyway to fix it?
Im not useing one. I'm looking to buy my first thinkpad so im looking at all the problems that occur with the X models. I assume that its windows users due to its popularity with normal users
I just gave you the way to fix it.
Really, you can get used to anything, just don't brush the trackpad and you'll be OK. You might be able to adjust the click sensitivity in settings, I'm not sure because I am not much of a trackpad person.
I got a t420 with 1600x900, i5-2520, 4gb RAM, 500gb HDD, and a new-ish 9cell for $250.
Seems to be a good price, looking at the buyers guide.
Condition is a bit eh, trackpad is worn, but structural damage.
Just got it, m8.
I didn't know it was a sticker, thanks. Is it possible to replace, I quite like the bumpy.
Nah, just some Australian selling his laptop. I grabbed it as soon as I found out that the battery was quite new. 9cell is hard to find.
I keep getting the urge to buy more thinkpads. Anyone else get this? Are there cheap enough thinkpads you can just buy and play with but still have it be useful? Is the t61 still useable for more than office?
I go for X, almost entirely due to size. With a T series you get a bigger screen and possibly dedicated graphics. Depending on which generation they are there can be differences in processors (low voltage vs normal) and how much RAM you can put in.
Relative to the X it is. When I was in college as a freshman they gave us T-series, and it was kind of a pain to carry to classes (more due to its footprint than its weight though). Then Junior year everyone in my major was given X-series tablets which were a lot more convenient
Is $200 a good price for a X200 with a docking station with DVD drive, a charger, Win 7 with disk, and a 500gb HDD?
I'll probably put a Linux distro on it as I'd like to learn how to use it, but I still would need to hold onto Windows for work.
In the real world, we have to carry more than just a computer. Things to carry include a mouse, charger, hard drive, papers, stationery, and other things like a music player. It might be okay if we were only carrying a T thinkpad but real life is different.
I have to say, the X200T with multitouch display had a 'loose' screen.
it was reminicent (sp?) of those plastic covers you see on keyboards at supermarkets.
the multitouch was an odd display of the X200T, I liked the regular X200 more.
as far as I knew, 800 series were expensive compared to other units, starting at 6K supposidly and the options can end you at 10K US during the 90's.
Though they did seem to have a shit load of RAM at the time.
>tfw someone wants to buy my T410 before I can finish the video
nah, $150 if you are in the US. I'd pay $200 if it was in excellent/near new condition.
serves you right for being a faggot
Whatever you do get at least Full HD or SXGA.
Had a X60s for a while and the 1024x768 screen made and sort of development environment (Visual Studio, MATLAB, Photoshop) massive chores to use.
>Things to carry include a mouse
It has a trackpoint and a trackpad. Why do some people (you) still carry a mouse? I've had a couple in classes and they always seem autistic.
That's not a lot of extra space. Extra battery then.
T series can hold 3 storage devices. Why do you need your external?
Phone goes in your pocket.
I have bought a x220 recently for £200. It came with SSD and and in great condtion. You might even get it cheaper. Just look for it. X220 is a great laptop you wont be disappointed
Weight and space together is a balancing act. We use an external hard drive because it's not always convenient to setup a network to transfer big files. A mouse is far more precise than the trackpoint and trackpad. Come back to me when you can beat my mouse in a fast twitch fps with your trackpoint.
Yes I can do all those things but it's not worth the price for a lot of us. If we need computing power and a big screen, there is no substituting a real workstation. X Thinkpads are portable terminal machines.
>Come back to me when you can beat my mouse in a fast twitch fps with your trackpoint.
Come back to me when you're not some faggot who still plays video games. Want to sit on my lap while you shoot your friends?
The trackpoint is fast and accurate and doesn't require effort. Just use it and you get used to it and come to appreciate it more than the trackpad or a mouse.
All you need is your finger tip. I could show you how easy it is. Has anyone used your prostate as a trackpoint before?
I don't play video games, boy.
How about if you're not dripping precum within five minutes you win? Then we'll test out the two finger scroll feature.
I found a used Nvidia GTX 760 on craigslist for $120.
Should I buy it and put together an eGPU for my X220?
This. In fact it's kind of silly that a lot of the regular ones with IPS go for more than the tablet versions if they're properly labeled. I got the tablet version just because I knew they all came with IPS and even at 720p, it's pretty nice.
Just got a 128gb msata for $50 too to stick inside for better speed and so on, then keep the regular HDD for storage. Don't think I've seen too many people do that with theirs but it's a nice feature to have.
Also swapped the keyboards on my w510 and x220t because the one on the w510 was in mint shape and it spends most of its time in a dock anyway.
I have an mSATA SSD in mine.
I also swapped the keyboard from my T420 onto it before selling the T420 because it was and still is in perfect condition.
but all it would take is that plus $10 PSU and $85 PE4H PCIe to ExpressCard adapter...
Can someone explain why /g/ likes the older thinkpads so much besides their price?
I'd like a laptop/tablet to browse the internet and watch my manchild chinese cartoons with 10bit 720p while laying in bed. Are these used thinkpads a real option or is it more of a collector thing?
I need a new notebook, my price range is around going to buy me ThinkPad E540 or Lenovo Z50 - should I get the first one? I need shit for occasional gaming (rarely) and for lurking chans, watching movies, working in MS Office. Can you recommend something around this price range? Real opinions please, so far I found only replies like 'inba botnet' when someone asks about chrome
I can't get the used, secondhand t4xx model, it needs to be something new
The collector thing is for the really old ones. The ones that are only a couple years old work great even if they're lenovo branded.
Hell, my pos HP pavillion laptop from 2001 with a pentium 3 can still run basic 480p and do browsing and whatnot without issue.
I just got an x220t recently because the price was excellent and my old hp is literally coming apart from the plastic going brittle and cracking everywhere after so long.
>Why do some people (you) still carry a mouse?
Your autism has gone places.
God how can one be so autistic to prefer a trackpoint over a mouse, are you a total fuckin idiot?
Because my family is biased and they only need a new one 'hurrdurr sonny we wont get a used piece of garbage, we're scared'
so instead of trying to win them over I'm going to get them something like e540 or latitute 3540, I just wonder which one to choose
What's so hard about buying a used one that looks new? How are they going to tell the difference unless they expect to open the box themselves?
Just tell them you went ahead and got all the software set up or something.
I haven't thought about it that way actually. One thing I'm going to worry in this scenario - they ones popular in my country don't have typical querty keyboards, they are sweden/german ones that have stickers on them, i.e. the left shift is smaller
I got a T420 second hand from eBay for £200 a couple weeks ago.
With the upgraded screen and all mind you. The only cosmetic defect was a small crack in the plastic covering the exhaust at the back.
How did I do?
The battery life to me seems a bit shocking (an hour and a half or so when it's being used). Could that be the battery itself being worn down or are they known for having pretty weak battery life anyway?
X201 has better aspect ratio and fucking amazing resolution screen. I wish we could have higher than shitty 1366*768 on the rest of them.
However, X220 has much more recent hardware, better battery life, a nicer-looking screen if you get IPS, and is better built, and SATA III.
It depends on what you are going to use it for. I'm currently using an X200 and it suits me just fine for web browsing, and programming, watching movies.
However, if you do anything CPU-intensive or graphically-intensive like Photoshop then I would step up to the X220. You might want a nicer looking screen for your movies too (IPS vs TN). Make sure you get an SSD whichever one you go for.
Oh and as an aside to that.
I can't seem to get what I assume to be the middle mouse button to work for shit. I've tried various things I've found online to try and get it to work but it just isn't having any of it.
I just got mine today, and i've been using it for a few hours.
t420 with the 9 cell it came with and at 50%, think i started using it at around 70% so mine's pretty good.
maybe you should consider geting a 9 cell battery, make sure you get a lenovo one
You won't die if you try it.
I would do so, but I don't play games. Last thing I played was Fallout 1, which I finished, and a bit of Skyrim, which I didn't finish. That was before I dropped my desktop, last year, for my current T60.
Maybe a mouse is better for games. I thought the TrackPoint was a bit inconvenient at the start. Then I thought, "I'm doing this wrong" and I forced myself to use only it for a week.
After over a year of this daily routine, now I'm kinda lost when I use a standard keyboard and mouse. The TrackPoint is way superior, and it takes no space at my desk. I always was fond of low profile keycaps, this T60 is a marvel of technology.
Too bad they aren't being made anymore; gotta hoard even more spare parts (I have a lot of keyboards here, for example).
I'm going to need some extra panels too, they are the next weak link. Even if I don't find planars anymore, I can use the shell as a terminal for a desktop (I use the T60 as a stationary computer, and my phone, which I hate, on the go).
Can get a good deal on a working X220T with a slightly cracked screen. I have a spare LED panel however it's for an X220. From what i can tell they aren't actually any different (although different FRU's but can see them advertised on ebay with multiple FRU's). Anyone ever replaced a tablet model screen with a non touch screen? Or have enough experience with different models to confirm my suspicions that x220 screens will fit in an x220T
4:3 screens, black, boring and bulky, as a computer should be.
ThinkLight. I use my computer with the lights off and the ThinkLight on at night, just because.
TrackPoint. No mouse is needed (if you want one for games; just use one; I vouch for Microsoft mice, they are inexpensive and they have excellent quality).
On a more personal side, this thirdworlder grew up on a diet of science fiction and mirin IBM servers on local banks. Now I have a woooo muh own IBM branded T60.
Now, they are not for everyone. The classic ThinkPad keyboard is possibly the best compromise that keeps layout as close as possible to a desktop keyboard - except for the non standard Esc position and, of course, Fn.
The newer models no longer have two Ultrabays, nor support the Ultrabay Numpad.
I'm working on those quirks. Just yesterday I got a Numpad on the mail. I will try next to buy an R60 to make it fit there (getting it to work is trivial; the Ultrabay Plus connector is USB with a proprietary connection).
And I will mod the keyboard to reposition some keys.
The IPS screens are the best reason to get the tablet. The IPS ones used in the regular x220 are still taken from the non-multitouch versions for the x220t iirc. So should still probably work with digitizer input.
But if you have a non-IPS one, you're kinda tossing the main reason to have the machine.
That is the proper thing to do for structural, internal parts; I have an extra, working T60p here.
Some parts are extremely difficult to find. A 15" 4:3 T60 palmrest with fingerprint reader is often more expensive than a whole unit.
I intend in the future to use R60 shells for Frankenpads. Even if some mods I'm working on (see >>45673475) are impossible, the thicker case will allow better cooling, and they are way less expensive than a T60.
Is it worth the extra $100 to get a T420 with a 1600x900 screen vs a 1366x768 screen? I've never seen a 1600x900 resolution on a 14" in real life so I really don't know.
Why is a T420 with a quad core the most based thing ever?
What's the best ThinkPad to get in the T series?
My old A22m recently woke up from coma. Turns out it's a bugged BIOS or some other chip that prevents it from suspending correctly. When it happens it gets quite annoying, I have to pull out its batteries (main one and CMOS) to let the electrons evaporate from the circuits and reset the power management controller. Turn off suspend on lid off in BIOS and profit.
Currently on a full install Puppy Lucid 5.2.8 and loving it (except for the worrying part of, you know, root access by default).
So, which good distro for this PIII 850MHz, 320MB SDRAM and a whopping 18GB noisy hard disk? Also has a MACH64 ATI graphics card.
Can't post picture because no MTP support in this old kernel and too lazy to use my sister's Toshiba I leech internet via ethernet cable from.
I want a tablet model, old keyboard and old touchpad buttons.
The X201 has all of them, but it's honestly older than I care.
The X220 has all of them but the old touchpad buttons.
Can I put a X201/X200 palmrest on the X220?
this is all I get then it just sits here like this, my old HDD I got the same shit but after 1 sec I get the login manager.
Looking for one with excellent battery life and great/good performance and at least 500GB or more in storage to start. Looking to replace a Vaio with a shit battery, only gets a rough hour at a console doing a few things.
I have an x230t and it works pretty good
also how do you guys clean your laptops?
>upholstery brush on keyboard
>hydrogen peroxide clorox wipes
sucks up the crumbs and degreases it gently
I don't have one yet, it'll arrive soon.
I plan to run Crunchbang and Windows 8.1 (need it for work).
I've got no idea how the temps will be, but I've had very good experiences with the C2D processors. They're not furnaces like the i* series. My T61 on full load for more than 16 hours runs at ~50Cº while m.y T420 more often than not idled at ~45Cº
Plus it's got a low voltage processor rated at 17W. I'm getting a model with the L7300 at 1.4GHz
Reporting in from muh T510 running Mavericks. Bought a T42 recently and gave it to my dad for Christmas. I miss the T42 keyboard, /g/ ;-;
Christmas came early this year; the wife got me a nice pair of coffee mugs as an early present. I regret nothing.
Bought an X220 earlier this week, got the 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM I ordered for it today. Installed Win10 on it and have spent the last few hours settings things up. Everything's in pretty good condition by this point, loved how easy the memory & HDD swap process was.
Worst part about the R60 I had came across is that you have to modify the CPU fan or frame as the R60's fan is slightly smaller. I couldn't just drop a T60p board onto it.
Well I was afraid of using the R60's fan because it was an integrated graphics one rather than the dedicated in the T60's, so I just saved it instead.
Also the R60 motherboard is a bit funky, the hard drive is at a different spot, I think you might have to modify the chassis for that as well, I forget.
I just remember it being a pain in the ass.
>got a W700 numberpad
>got the ThinkPad USB keyboard
>took it apart
>got the USB connector out
>connect the W700 numberpad to it
>shit doesn't work when I connect it to the USB
>tfw no jimmy rig numberpad with a CD drive
Is 200 bucks reasonable for the Thinkpad X200 and T400-models? I'd have an opportunity to buy either one of them 2nd hand right now. The X200 is clocked @ 2,4 Ghz, 3 gigs or RAM, Windows 7. It comes with the Ultrabase.
got my first thinkpad last week. a near-mint X200 for 80€. i'll post pics tomorrow maybe, i don't have my DSLR
i'm still don't know what GNU/linux distro and DM/DE i'll chose. maybe debian stable with LXDE
Sup /g/ my wife needs a new laptop and I wanna get her a thinkpad. What model do you suggest? Shed prefer a 14 inch screen. How reliable are used think pads ? I normally buy refurbished but I'd like to get it for under 300 so may need to be used.
>How reliable are used think pads ?
They're business-class computers. You get business-class reliability. Which is as reliable as you can get.
>Shed prefer a 14 inch screen.
Any T4** will do. depending on what she does, you will have to choose between T400, T410 or T420 based on their CPU. If all she does is browse Facebook or Twitter, then a T400 will do fine. If she watches HD video then you might want to get a T410 or T420.
Make sure you look at the specs and that you don't get the shitty 1280x800 or 1366x768 ones.