With topics like these its very difficult to extract any meaningful information from them because no-one is actually curious about "why" so much as how the results relate to identity politics, including the people gathering statistics. So I heavily doubt anyone on this planet really knows the answer.
>>45690740 women want all the perks of CS but never want to put the effort into it. that's why feminists demand we have shitty concepts like affirmative action to fill a vagina quota. they hate meritocracies because it ensures they won't get hired for (lack of) skills instead of getting hired just for having a vagina.
Womens brains tend to work a little differently. They're more emotional, spiritual, and artistic. They are better at planning and events. Social and fun. My gf loves her job as a party planning agency even if the wage is shit.
Men tend to be more calculated and rigid. Logical and finite. Men are the ones who believe In UFO and women belive more in ghosts and spirits. It's just makes sense.
>>45690951 >>45690965 >>45690967 Seriously? Well, I know girls that study CS. There aren't as many as guys, but they're still there. Even two of my professors are women. Most of mathematics students are girls at my Uni too. If girls can study math, I don't see the reason why they wouldn't study comp sci as well.
All of this is conjecture. No-one knows why, as I said here >>45690944. The statistics are adorned with corruption and confirmation bias, there's no physical models of the female that "proves" anything about them not being logical or having some kind of genetic avoidance of CS, there's nothing, no real research on this topic has been done aside from SJW's and the bunch of corrupt communist we call University professors saying that less women take CS therefore society is sexist.
Because for most parents computers (and technology in general) is not girly and if a girl seems to be interested in technology more than, say, becoming a nurse or artist, then there is clearly something wrong with her. When a boy says "I want to learn <insert tech skill here>", parents are all cheerful, yay, our boy will grow up to be an engineer. Girl wants to learn tech skill? Just another one of her random wantings, she'll dabble a bit and get bored, there's no way a girl could really get the hang of it.
Math is required for a lot of fields and women do love teaching and pharmacy.
Women find computer enthusiasts creepy or lame so they don't want to associate. There's also this "empowered woman" thing that drives females towards law and medicine: The careers we're taught as children make someone important.
If they don't learn it at a really young age they're screwed. Puberty starts making them more adapt at artsy things and when they receive positive feedback on that it makes learning computational skills seem pretty pointless and later makes it more difficult to learn.
Maybe. Who fucking knows. No-one will know until some good old scientific research is done, which it hasn't. Almost all research on why a certain type of person does or doesn't do x is conducted by psuedo-scientific sociologists with something to prove.
"Brain patterns" can mean anything. There's no working, physical, biological model that outline the differences in female and male brains, when, where, how and why these differences occur and how they relate to human behaviour other than trivial shit like "women have x% more grey matter" which means nothing when an elephant has twice the amount of grey matter we have and yet they're more retarded than even the most spazziest of humans.
>>45691004 Well, considering the inverse of your statement is true - countries with less social pressure towards certain degrees witness woman steering towards social and medical sectors, as opposed to less developed countries, where woman are pressured into more technical areas - I'd say there is a biological gender difference.
They are witch doctors. They're not by default, but almost all the "theories" they susbcribe to are retarded as fuck and have no basis in relaity. Shit like the phonological loop, the working memory model and depression have no real basis in biology. I don't never said there's an absolute model for human behaviour, but there is an absolute model for human biology. Behaviour is an emergant phenomona so of course you can't predict it 100% accurately.
There's a huge hormonal influence on the brain I don't deny that, but how that relates to learning is unknown. There's no biological model I know that explains if and why women learn slower. In fact, the evidence (that I don't trust tbh) points towards women learning much faster than men, at least before adolance.
>>45691400 It's because from the day we are born, we are fed this bullshit about equality and "balance" which really doesn't exist at all. Same thing with niggers and intelligence. You just can't say some things anymore.
Hormones stimulate neuron transmission and helps create neural pathways because of that. Similar to how learning a foreign language stimulates the brain and helps your ability to process information.
It's less that genders are disadvantaged and more that genders are given an advantage. It overall depends on the stimulation the brain receives, but women will take longer to see improvement with math based studies while men will see quicker and more encouraging results that promotes further stimulation. Women are more likely to become frustrated and look for shortcuts (copying answers from friends). Meanwhile men are generally less communication based and less social.
>Hormones stimulate neuron transmission and helps create neural pathways because of that
I agree. But there's more homrones than just testorone and estrogen and these vary wildly between individuals of the same sex, let alone between sexes. However, I can't find anything that backs up what effects these hormones have on men and women. What hormone(s) is it exactly that promotes neural pathways to grow in these particular areas? In which part of the brain is this taking place? I don't believe for a second "men are generally less communication based and less social", it makes no sense at all from a biologic perspective or a social one.
This doesn't even work as conjecture. Men are increadibly social animals. See: the army, the fact most corperations are ran by men, the fact most politicians are men and a whole other list of social activities men take part in.
I'm in the army. We all hate eachother unless we can benefit from eachother. If you seem like a waste of oxygen then you will be outcast. We're always stabbing eachother in the back and blocking the success of others to succeed ourselves (troop schools especially).
You only see teamwork when teamwork is necessary to perform a task or if you're in an office full of females. Most men are on their phones playing games or looking at girls on Instagram.
>>45692426 >implying chess skill measures intelligence Garry Kasparov tested at 135 IQ. There are probably people on this board with higher. Magnus Carlsen has claimed that excessively high IQ might hurt your chess skill.
>Discoveries using Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI), which creates a three-dimensional image of the living brain, have shown a strong positive correlation (.44) between brain size and IQ (see Rushton & Ankney, 1996, for a review). And there is more. The National Collaborative Perinatal Project on 53,000 children by Sarah Broman and her colleagues, showed that head perimeter at birth significantly predicts head perimeter at 7 years — and head perimeter at seven years predicts IQ. It also shows that Asian children average a larger head perimeter at birth than do White children who average a larger head perimeter than do Black children.
>Racial differences in brain size have been established using a variety of modern methods. Using endocranial volume, for example, Beals et al. (1984, p. 307, Table 5) analyzed about 20,000 skulls from around the world. East Asians averaged 1,415 cm3 , Europeans averaged 1,362 cm3, and Africans averaged 1,268 cm3 . Using external head measures to calculate cranial capacities, Rushton (1992) analyzed a stratified random sample of 6,325 U.S. Army personnel measured in 1988 for fitting helmets and found that Asian Americans averaged 1,416 cm3, European Americans 1,380 cm3, and African Americans 1,359 cm3. Finally, a recent MRI study found that people of African and Caribbean background averaged a smaller brain volume than did those of European background (again see Rushton & Ankney, 1996, for review).
>>45692637 To libshits, "equal opportunity" means "equal outcomes'. If females or niggers underperform in something, it's because oppression or someone looked at them funny and it made them fail a calculus test.
Liberals suffer from a faith based delusion that everyone is LITERALLY equal. Their entire ideology stems from the central tenet that we all have the same potential.
That is how they justify things like affirmative action. Racial or gender discrimination is okay in their minds when done against higher performing groups. They think that the only reason groups could perform better at certain tasks is discrimination in their favour, so it's okay to discriminate against them to "level the playing field".
This is also why liberals make cartoons like that one where a Negro in track and field has all sorts of obstacles. In reality Negroes have huge advantages over other races. But all liberals see is that Negroes are failures. Since they believe everyone has equal potential, Negro failure can only mean there are some phantom obstacles holding them back.
No matter what, liberals will not reconsider their faith based belief that everyone has equal potential.
>>45692717 Fucking hell that's is fucking terrifying. I mean seriously, now this means that you don't have to be qualified to be a doctor. Please for the love of god tell me that the exams and that are the same after being accepted.
So? Even without looking at the paper, the fact that a conclusion from that paper to the effect of "this disparity makes women stupider" makes me doubt your .jepg (which should be a .png) already. Now, looking at the paper's abstract (getting the full paper requires signing up to shit which I'm not doing) we see the sample size of the brains they examined was 93. That's not enough to draw conclusions from in any case. Secondly, men's brains are 10% larger than womens, which means they may need 16% more neurons because they have a larger distance to transmit across.
>in addition to the lower numbers of neurons...
These quotes are taken from the same paper you got that from. >It is well known that men and women display different capacities in certain cognitive functions that are unrelated to differences in the general level of intelligence. >Therefore, the functional consequences of the differences in synaptic circuitry observed here are particularly difficult, if not impossible, to correlate with specific functions related to men or women. >Finally we would advise the reader to exercise caution in extrapolating the present data to the whole brain. Indeed, it was reported that the anterior commissure, which connects several regions of the frontal and temporal lobes, is 12% larger in women than in men, suggesting that women would have more commissural associative connections
In your last point, the synaptic density disparity of 40% does not correlate with any intellegence measurements. Under none of them have women even come close to being 40% less intelligent than men. I don't think that means anything, but using your conjecture logic, that's a nail in the coffin for your reductionist, pseudo-scientific .jpeg.
You may need to re-evaluate your "jpegs for /r9k/" folder there buddy.
Parents and society in general do not encourage girls to follow such interests. You see gendered interests being foisted on humans right from birth - blue items for newborn boys, and pink ones for girls.
Quotas are of course bullshit and focus on people at too late an age to have a positive impact - to them, "computers and stuff" is the domain of obsessive males.
Daily reminder that the commercial all feminists basically says that women can't take their own decisions so you need to inspire to take the right decision.
I look at this commercial and I think that how many times I haven't been asked to stop doing that shit, or stop touching that dirty thing. Didn't stop me from being interested Didn't stop me from getting into technology.
>be me, freshman majoring in CS last year >first day of my first lower division CS course >everyone gathers up outside of the classroom early because it's the first day >"Oh, no girls. I guess I should expect that though," I think >Notice this weird as fuck autistic kid with bracers spitting all over this neckbeard while laughing about something I'm sure is retarded >Oh god, gross. >Weird autistic kid looks around and notices me >Please don't talk to me >"No girls here?" he asks. >"Uhhh yeah, I guess s--" >"WHAT A BUNCH OF PUSSIES!!!!!!" >Wtf please please please go away >Neckbeard that was getting spit on walks up to us >Autistic kid turns toward him, "yeah so, my mom says you can sleep over if you want." >Everyone is staring at us now >Wtf, no, make it stop
Pic related, sort of looked like this guy w/out the beard.
>>45692889 Oh god this ad is shit. At no point was gender mentioned. Plenty of boys are told to not get dirty, plenty of boys are told to stop annoying animals. Yes Samantha, you're project is fucking out of control when you have covered everything in glitter and devalued our house by about 20% by covering everything in shitty planets. And finally, yes, it does make sense for a weak 11 year old girl to pass a powertool to her 18 year old brother.
>>45692979 Why? she had a phd is mathematics from yale and a degree in physics. What makes me an idiot? For christ sake use some source instead of just insults as well http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/tap/Files/hopper-story.html
There is a reason why babies with ambiguous genitalia aren't decided to be male or female on a whim. You can't just raise a boy to be a girl, which I think was sufficiently proven with cases like this.
I'm not watching a vieo to prove anything for the simple fact that the thread will probably be gone by the time I've watched it. It took me 40 minutes to write this >>45692825. Make whatever point your going to make and proivide a biological basis for your argument. If can't do that, then I can't agree with you because psychologists/sociologists are notorious liars and often make up their theories based on shit they observe rather than saying how the mechanism actually happens which isn't science.
Why care? You don't have a responsibility towards any woman on this planet except your mother, girlfriend, sisters if you have them and the closest friends. Anyone who says otherwise is a cunt trying force their own responsibilities and agenda onto you, or trying to thought police you into becoming their benefit cow.
>>45693028 Wasn't there some claims by Mr. Reimer that the scientist that had the theory forced them to do sexual rollplay and shit? I think the whole "rape thing" could have something to do with his outcome.
Hopper has received a good deal more credit than she deserves. People are so desperate for gender equality they are willing to stretch the truth a bit when it comes to portraying women in a positive light.
>neonates....were tested to see if there was a difference in looking time at a face (social object) and a mobile object (physical mechanical object)
*sigh*. This what happens when you listen Sociologists who would be more useful to society in a chesse grating factory. A neonatal baby has no knowledge or comprehension of what a mobile is for a start. Second, the face IS a "physical mechanical object", and a more complex one than a mobile. You'd be more intelligent if you concluded from this that women like machines more because they're obviously looking at the more complex one.
>female superioty in sociability has been documented in humans. Thus, girls and women show greater eye conta....
That's a pretty fucking grand statement, yet there's no citation.
I can't continue, I'm laughing too hard. The best I can give this paper is 3/10, and that's pushing it.
>>45693068 She was leading the team. Not just a part of it. I don't give much fuck about history in general and even less about equality, but she did make the first compiler, by leading a team, and it is important and still very relevant
>>45693410 >the face IS a "physical mechanical object" Humans have hard wired face detection. It's why we see easily faces in noise (clouds etc.). A face is not just another mechanical object to a baby.
I acknowlege that fact. But its a fact that invalidates this study. A better conlusion would have been "baby girls look at faces more than anything else", even with the none scientific lexicon. Who's to say the baby boys aren't looking at the fingers of the human or what they're doing instead of the faces? We'll never know because these scoiologists can't into logic.
>they're afraid they wouldn't fit in >fit in >caring about fitting in when selecting a major
It's because women aren't interested, OP. Same reason more men don't go into drama. Sure, there's probably some minimal friction that makes a few hesitant to take it up, but to pretend that MILLIONS of men and women aren't entering a field because of that is absurd.
Sweden tries to enforce a 50/50 representation in every field and they can't get women interested in STEM.
>>45690740 Computer Science is generally not considered a high social status profession compared to Medical and Legal practice. You're basically going to be a technician... even though the machines are digital and built via encoded logical and arithmetic operations.
Lawyers and Doctors have power over people, you have power over machines. Women want power over people, they don't care about power over machines, because they know that they can instead have power over the people that have power over those machines.
Saying that hormones do effect your life and abilities is pro-"lgbt". That's litrally what transexualism is based on. Brain structure for humans shoudn't be that much different otherwise it leads to mental retardation. Finally, every human has the genetic code for females in them, it depends on which parts of that code get activated.
>>45693111 >centuries of environmental pressures have made people unequal Yes, environmental pressures change a population's gene pool. Now some are genetically at a disadvantage when it comes to intelligence or athletic ability. It's not hard to grasp.
You want to blame everything around them without admitting that natural selection exists. People are not blank slates.
>>45694015 No, you're a fucking retard if you think the level of estrogen or testosterone in you has no effect. There's a fucking reason testosterone use is now banned in the UFC. The brain structure of men and women are significantly different too.
>>45694036 I'm not a nice person. I'm an honest person.
You are caught up in a Puritan hellhole where you can't have sex with a real woman because that will make her "unpure" as if your penis was some magical tool rather than a rod of flesh.
Your Puritanical delusions are so ingrained that you hijack any thread about women and start turning it into a discussion about sluts. You are irrevocably damaged, will never breed, should never raise children, and should lock yourself in a small room until you starve to death because you shouldn't spread your poisonous ideas to other people.
>>45691223 That was actually a pretty bad conclusion for you to reach. There are many differences between developed and developing nations that can account for why one subset of the population is more likely to do something than the other.
>>45694118 >the measure by which we should examine people's ability to contribute to a technologically advanced society where we have weapons that can level cities is who can beat the other into submission with fists
>>45694092 I was only talking about 2D girls, though.
3D girls having sex doesn't necessarily make them sluts. If they practice casual sex, then that makes them a slut, but I don't think being a slut is wrong, it's just my way of categorizing people. Not that I would date a slut. I wouldn't be able to trust one.
>>45694160 Someone who is so sexually repressed that they actually would think, and then write, on a public forum read by millions, that all people who have sex are sluts, is broken, probably from decades of emotional abuse.
>>45690990 Yes, and every child is taught that studying is important and good for its life, and yet a shitload decide to fucking hate it while a shitload is neutral about it and a shitload loves studying. Individualism from birth, as in how unique your brain pathways will form in a big domino effect as electrical pathways connect and disconnect randomly in your brain and affect each other in billions of chaotic random ways, not including hormonal levels and shit, demands that every child isn't the same. Two siblings grow up in the same environment and have the same fucking experiences, yet they grow up with different personalities and ideologies in one or multiple categories. Fucking individualism.
That feminist idea of internalization assumes humanity is a fucking robotic mindhive of copy pasta from birth.
Guess fucking what, some babies get shat out crying and some don't cry.
>>45694211 >current political policy is based on sociology No, it isn't. Otherwise schools would be enforcing gender neutral pronouns in every western nation. Current political policy is based on political theory, you deranged landwhale.
>>45694151 >is who can beat the other into submission with fists Using your fists, knowing when to counter and how, knowing when and how to block, having a stance, knowing which combos to use and when to randomize, assessing your opponent's stance and adapting yours as well as controlling your footwork and movement while at it all, observing the character of the opponent whether they are defensive or aggressive to attack and a dozen other factors, actually does require brain and coordination. Learning to fight improves the mind. Just don't get your head hit too much.
Astology is thousands of years old. Doesn't make it true. Most nations are retarded. Western nation is based of the false belief that the retarded majority is smarter than the intelligent majority. Anything that isn't a democracy is based off the belief that whoever is the most brutal is smarter than everyone else.
>>45694237 >enforcing gender neutral pronouns in every western nation Wow. You're so twisted up you don't have any idea what you are talking about.
You're some partially educated buffoon. People in your life let it slide because it's not worth the conflict, but nobody takes you seriously. You're a fucking clown. Everybody laughs at you behind your back.
>>45691286 Well, the whole "left brain" vs. "Right brain" thing has been determined to be bullshit by neuroscientists, so it's that pic is always unrelated unless it's posted on /b/, which the person who posted it should return to.
>>45694253 >the retarded majority is smarter than the intelligent majority It has nothing to do with smarts and has everything to do with who ought to have power in a society. You haven't even read the political philosophy from the past 2000 years that the current system is based upon have you?
>>45690740 Because female feminist teachers in the public school system have some sort of backwards demented weird fucking psychodrama about it and don't allow them to and then hate them forever when they drop out of school to walk around the self-righteous cunts and learn everything the hard way (self-teaching from books and internet), stalk them and harass them electronically, troll them to suicide, try to keep them in the psych ward forever when they have a nervous breakdown, and be the most worthless pieces of pure sociopathic trash as therapists once the girls are adults and want to talk about psychological problems induced from females in the public school system ruining their life and sexually harassing them.
Even if a female student proves she is smart enough, the stupid cunt they have to talk to in order to schedule classes will block them from that and other non-medical scientific pursuits for worthless bullshit reasons that start with 'I feel..'.
Then of course, on paper, it looks like less girls are interested, when what happened to me didn't exactly happen in a vacuum, maybe it happened to other girls too.
>and here's why I'm so bitter >this right here >no, it is NOT that I am not smart enough, kill yourself you worthless piece of trash if you want to convince me of it >my IQ is actually 130 (spatial and pattern recognition seem to be my forte, those are at genius level, but my verbal IQ was only 118) in real life, on a fucking bad day (levels of sleep deprivation which studies have been done to find can temporarily and negatively effect performance on IQ tests by up to 30 points)
>>45694345 >the exact kind of rant that goes before screaming with the more pure of hate, 'AAAAAH!!! THERE IS NO END TO HOW MUCH I HATE THE SUBHUMAN PIECES OF SHIT!!!' >but you stop yourself from actually screaming in real life after you get up from where you were laying down fully clothed on your bed and put your hands on your head
You have demonstrated: large amounts of hate for some moronic horde somewhere, and also good self control (you didn't cause yourself problems IRL over it)
>>45694304 UFC fighters push the limits of the human body. I also forgot all the grappling and ground wrestling moves and counter-moves, knowing your joints and muscles and having the speed and knowledge to counter any situation appropriately with correct movement, among hundreds.
All in all, the next thing to doctors that knows everything there is about joints and human musculature, would be UFC fighters, by both books and experience.
Anyway, there are plenty of fighters in the UFC with finished universities in engineering, medicine, technology. You can simply search the UFC site for details on education in the registered fighter biographies. Now keep crying bitch nigga.
>UFC fighters aren't retarded meatheads who beat people up for a living and think that's going to get them respect from anyone but the trash of society.
UFC fighters are the pit fighters. All of the low class scum will love you because it's fun to watch you beat the hell out of each other, but you have no power in society, no status, no UFC fighter is ever going to win a Nobel Prize, or do anything of any value or merit. Their names will be forgotten as they are another in a long string of clowns under the big top.
>>45694402 No, it says that the more people you keep fucking like an animal that can't control its primal instincts, the more prone to cheating you are [and health hazard from STDs], the more untrustworthy and undependable you are in a relationship and woe be the idiot who marries you.
>>45694555 >his opinions hurt my feelings >must be /pol/ The world was filled with /pol/'s opinions before /pol/ ever existed, and it will be filled after it ceases to exist. Go bitch to Skynet if you don't like how humanity isn't a mindhive.
>>45694547 >leaned social behavior doesn't thrive because it increases their chance of survival, hence the ones who adopt it quickest proliferate their genes faster giving subsequent generations a greater generic disposition to accepting the same behavior
This is how dogs were created. A dog isn't less frightened of humans than wolves because of culture.
>>45694582 Because from that kind of primitive evolutionary perspective, finding a single mate and repeating the mating process takes less energy than going through courtship multiple times. Which is important in arctic penguins because the energy available in their environment is limited. Humans were equatorial creatures living in an environment where energy availability was not a concern.
It's 2014CE now, not 50,000BCE and humans have never been monogamous except in your retarded Judeo-Christian fantasy land. There are bastards everywhere, throughout all of history.
Oh yes because being polygamous in this day and age is just so practical, having babies with 5 different mommas. Enjoy paying all that child support cause "This is how nature wants us to be like" motherfucker.
>>45694674 >implying that our legal society wasn't build by Puritan moralists to reward behavior that conforms to their societal norms and punishes behavior that doesn't, and that's all there is to it and all that there will ever be.
>>45694700 Well, at least you were able to calm down after a few minutes.
>also, Petz was quite a character >like the other 3 in that villain group (her sisters), she kind of gets redeemed, and lives a normal life in 90s tokyo instead of returning to the extra planet in the future from whence she came >and she gets pretty nasty in the last episode where she's a villain, even attacking her sisters who had stopped being villains
>>45694739 Because when we overthrow your insane torture cult that took over the world a couple millennia ago, we'll start over at 0 again, or fundamentally alter the way things are done and always discuss things in relative dates from an ever changing now. Until then, we'll use your numbers.
>>45694870 He never said who you are, he just said to reddit to fuck off. You filled in the blanks with self-identifying details and projected yourself as the target of the statement thus contradicting your own post there by attributing those traits to reddit. I'm sorry to say this anon, but you are officially the stupidest poster in this thread.
>>45694941 He probably knows what my response is going to be to his response and doesn't want to entertain me. Because he probably IS one of the dumb delusional pieces of trash from /pol/'s 'waaah I hates women!!1!one!' threads who needs to make the world a better place and slit his wrists already.
>>45695013 Kind of like Ali and En, Esmeraude and Dimando are a villain couple that belong together but screws itself up because one or both of them goes after Usagi and Mamoru. At least we're in a pretty stable relationship..
>>45691166 I hope nobody thinks that image is actually accurate. Literally men have a higher right-brain power ratio than women, and it's literally THE most reliable piece of neurology we have that women's brains are more left-connected which leads them to superior rote skills, while the average higher right-brain activity in men leads them to superiority in non-verbal visuospatial tasks.
>>45695160 notgonnawatch/10 I'm happy with what I'm listening to right now (and don't want to stop because.. I already know that I am not going to enjoy that video, and I'm enjoying this music I'm listening to..)
>>45695005 Mongol hordes lasted a few centuries in Asia. Monogamous societies have spanned four continents and multiple millennia. Which has had more success?
The Mongolians also only took one wife, but mass rape is the most efficient form on genetic proliferation, not the best form of sexual reproduction because the quality of life for the offspring is typically terrible.
>>45695377 >>45695377 No. We already closed that door. None of them are actually monogamous societies. Some segments of those societies profess monogamous ideals, but the societies are not actually monogamous. The Vatican fucking allowed prostitution in Rome during the Renaissance. That's not a monogamous society. Popes have fathered fucking kids. That's not celibacy.
The professed ideals of a society are different from the actual behavior of a society, that's widespread social hypocrisy. You are mistaking hypocritical actors, who are saying one thing while doing another, with legitimate sources of moral authority.
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