This alone is worth $200 over what a Windoze laptop costs
>ati chips committing suicide
tell me something new
>a UNIX OS that can be actually used as a daily driver desktop instead of a toy
would like them to move over to zfs though
I have a 15" mbp and a dell xps 15 and the touchpad on that thing is just as good. The only thing which the macbook has over it is the smoother scrolling, but that is an osx thing, not hardware.
Even on higher end machines i find window's palm detection wonky as hell. But not bad as the cheap machines where the mouse just freaks out while typing and ends up randomly highlighting and deleting text.
That's because your operating system does not incorporate them properly.
A good example of a comfy gesture on OSX, is the four-finger swipe to the side, which changes workspace.
One that I personally use (which I don't see many other people use) is the three-finger drag, for dragging things, which I find immensely more comfortable than the regular way of doing it.
Hell, this trackpad is so good, that I often find myself using it over my mouse, without even noticing it.
Shame about the new models being garbage. Lenovo isn't worth shit in 2014-2015.
If that's so nice, where are the buttons?
Oh yeah, all Macs are 100% form over function. And that's why they're shit. They don't even look that great, at that. Just nondescript slabs of aluminum with shiny Apple logos.
Thanks for proving my point.
>get with the times, gramps! Minimalist tech with hugely castrated functionality is the future.
>who cares about functionality if it doesn't have muh minimalist design?
It's pretty common for Windows laptops to have a shitload of touchpad gesture options these days.
Can't say I care much about price. I just like powerful, upgradeable laptops; which rules out Macbooks and many other laptops.
It's better because it helps you do computer things faster and more efficiently. Keep trolling though, you're really making me mad. I'm getting really butthurt here.
Guess again, faggot.
I'd rather have an all-glass trackpad (which I do, on my $3000 non-Apple laptop) than six plastic buttons that will look like pic related after a couple of months of use.
I mean I have a keyboard right above the trackpad, I don't need six buttons.
By the way my glass trackpad can be configured to have more than six click types (each corner - 4, middle - 5, two fingers - 6, three fingers - 7) and yet I only use two corners (left and right click) and two fingers (middle click). So unless you really need strong physical feedback and a little "click" isn't enough for you, I see no reason to have a non-glass trackpad.
I've never owned a computer as ugly as the Macbook. Why don't you tell me?
>it's not ugly, I swear!
>it has an Apple logo!
>the logo lights up!
>and, um, it's aluminum unibody!
i have a 2011 macbook and while i think osx is nothing special compared to windows or anything else, the trackpad is nice.
loud as fuck when clicking, but nice.
now the sd card reader on the other hand broke after 5 uses.
I told you to back up your claim, idiot. Don't make claims like 'This mousepad can do things faster and more efficiently' and then move goalposts when I tell you to explain
Just get off this board if you don't know what you're talking about
Your question is retarded. You're asking me to justify owning an ugly laptop like the Zbook when the Zbook isn't ugly. But anyway, since you're too fucking retarded to figure something this obvious out for yourself, here are a few:
>open tab by middle clicking link
>close tab my middle clicking link
>can keep one finger on nipple pad while comfortably clicking with top row of buttons
Reality distortion field aside, >>45840193 is bullshit. I challenge you to find me a picture of a used Elitebook (the Zbook's predecessor) in which the trackpad looks like that.
Still looks functional to me.
>posts picture of trackpad with severe cosmetic damage and a fucked up button
>lel this is the same thing as a trackpad with a light oil
Also, kek: https://www.google.com/search?q=macbook+discoloration&tbm=isch
I never said plastic doesn't get discolored. I said glass doesn't get discolored. Sure is straw man around here.
Dunno what you're >implying, that glass shatters under normal use? Plastic discolors under normal use (everyday touching), glass doesn't shatter under normal use.
>I'm in Indiana and there's only one Apple store in the city. I took the picture from an angle so you can see the little crack on the right. I first noticed a tiny defect (only way I can describe it) at the bottom of the pad. Over the next few days it started to grow into the little crack on the right. I called and was told to take it into the store. Well before I went, I tried to clean it, and it grew into what you see now. At the store they said there is an impact point so they consider it damaged. I know that I didn't damage it. One day I just noticed that it didn't look smooth anymore. That was the beginning of the end.
>The glass track pad cracked on my 6-month old uni-body Macbook during normal use--specifically while clicking the lower part of the glass with one finger tip.
>Based on what I've experienced and seen so far this is a systematic problem. It looks like there is a weak point in the bottom center of the glass where most of these cracks are happening. Supporting this, the only irregular aspect of my track pad usage was that I clicked almost exclusively at that point in the bottom center. The crack started as a finger tip-shaped downward pointing crescent, and has now spidered all the way to the top of the pad.
>Hey everyone. I just got my MacBook Pro today and the trackpad had a crack in it within 5 hours! However, unlike the ones seen on the other MacBook Pros, this one is in the top left and happened when I clicked around the upper middle area (normal use just like the other situations). I'd like to get this taken care of by AppleCare (they cover one-day old items right??? ) but don't know if it would be possible. For now it may be a cosmetic issue but I don't want the crack to continue expanding and reach epic proportions like the previous poster's. I plan on using this forum as evidence of the trackpad's problems and I hope that since I live in Canada, the stereotype of Canadians being very nice people holds true for the employees at the Apple store .
>I've been looking around the web to find someone with this problem, so it's nice to see something so recent. I've been having a problem with my trackpad for the last few weeks; it just seems to not react to normal pressing and occasionally lags in response, so I end up with about 5-6 actions after a minute or two delay. More often I've been clicking in the bottom middle portion of the trackpad (right where that screw is), as it's the only place that is consistently responsive.
>Late last week I was just tapping away (not agressively or anything) when I looked down and noticed a pretty nasty crack the size of the tip of my finger, with a single looping out. It wasn't there when I started using it earlier that morning, I hadn't moved the laptop, and there was nothing close to drop on it. The cracked area is still responsive, but I really don't want to keep pressing it on the chance it gets worse.
OS X isn't UNIX like, it is UNIX.
The trackpad is a physical button.
It's not like it's difficult, the other three fingers are already hovering above the trackpad as you use it, you just need to lower them.
Trackpad as a single button is the best way to go. You can reset the trackpad so clicking in different areas/with more or less fingers/etc. does different clicks/things.
>have no problems with any of my Macs
>my first gen free Cr-48's hinges failed after 6 months of use
>I sat on my recliner and looked down at my 6 month old trackpad and it was cracked. After considerable thought, I believe I know how it happened.
>I believe it happened as a result of how I carried it upstairs. I carried it with one hand with my thumb pressed against the trackpad and my other 4 fingers supporting the bottom of the laptop.
Awesome build quality.
Here you go bros.
EliteBook 2540p, from 2011.
I guess it does happen to Elitebooks, and to computers made in the last 7 years.
>Awesome build quality.
I don't have any statistics on whether glass touchpads are any more/less prone to breakage than plastic touchpads, but like I said, I'm not talking about Macs, I'm talking about glass touchpads in general.
If you can show statistics that they're really more faulty/prone to breakage than plastic ones, you win. Otherwise you can sit here all day and find anecdotal evidence showing how much X/Y/Z suck.
My laptop (non-Apple) has a glass touchpad (and glass LCD panel covering). I've dropped it on the corner of a stair (whoops) and banged the top-center of the display on a countertop (double whoops) and they've survived because the aluminum part bent and absorbed the impact.
You CAN engineer things well. And I bet Apple laptops are engineered so that the metal absorbs the impact. You can't generalize from a few broken items.
Anon, he was carrying the laptop open with his thumb on the trackpad. His fingers acted as the fulcrum and all of the laptop's weight was pressed onto a small area of the glass trackpad thanks to the retard's thumb placement. It's entirely his own fault and has no reflection on Apple's build quality.
>Got a brand new netbook for free.
>First thing I did was to affix a 1€ screen protector to the trackpad.
>Cut to fit, more than half of it remaining for other uses, such as replacing it if I manage to tear it down by friction.
I think the reason is they think it looked better when closed. The edge looks nice and straight.
If they put a chamfer on the edge to make it more ergonomic, it would look just a little bit less clean and trim.
Faulty components happen and it's a bitch to prove they were faulty out of the factory when you've been using them for six months and they look like physical damage.
I've had a pixel die on a class-0 monitor and had the warranty denied under "physical damage", talk about bullshit.
Anyway how many glass touchpads are faulty within six months? How many plastic trackpads are faulty within six months? Without statistics, it's just anecdotal evidence.
>Apple's trackpads are glass, better
>clickpad instead of buttons taking up trackpad space
>11 simultaneous touches
>best working drivers in the market
>best trackpad integration with OS
It's not about the hardware or software, but how they work together. Apple has accomplished the best combination consumer technology has to offer atm.
>up to 9 hours
>actually believing that
>6 hours and 18 minutes
>4 hours, 35 minutes (granted, it was a littler heavier than regular workload)
>disappointing battery life
Yes, anon, half.
>requires 2 fingers to right click
No, is set for two finger right click by default and is changeable.
No, is set for inverted scrolling by default (the way it should be) and is changeable.
>requires to fingers to right click
I fail to see the problem
>goddamn, it's hard to uncheck a checkbox
>first gen free Cr-48's hinges failed after 6 months of use
mine aren't as "rigid" (idk if that's the correct term) as they were before but it's still fine. A friend of mine got a chromebook and the hinges fucked up on his pretty quickly, he uses it as a mousepad now lol
>OS X isn't UNIX like, it is UNIX.
An old version was, they don't bother with the certification anymore IIRC.
They where making efforts toward full POSIX and replacing the horrible hack job that was the kernel instead.
Being a Unix makes it a Unix-like.
All Unixes are Unix-like (because Unix is like Unix...), but not all Unix-likes are Unixes. Do I can say that OS X and GNU(/Linux) are Unix-like, and I could also say *BSD is Unix-like, but it would be more specific (and proper) to just call it what it is
But it has, you mongoloid. Many reviews even reports over the promised 12 hours.
>15 hours, 51 minutes
>12 hours, 13 minutes
>12 hours, 20 minutes
>12 hours of general computing
>12+ hours of battery life
Linux isn't UNIX certified because no one at Linux doesn't want to pay the fee. Linux is still UNIX-like.
>Also implying BSD has "poor features"
that feelio when I was playin Alien Arena and other FPS games on the clit mouse (thinkpad)....
it's actually bretty good. sure, don't go playin 1.6 on it, but it's fine for single player crap.
No, everything is not "ok". The floating keyboard is awful.
>function keys subordinate to 'search' and 'media' keys
> I beat hotline Miami using only the mbp touchpad
My windows trackpads always had way, way, WAY more accidental click issues. The only accidental click issue I've had with my MBP is doing three finger swipe when I meant 2 finger swipe, and all three finger swipe does is pan out to the multiple window layout. On my windows layouts I often actually clicked on LINKS unintentionally, which would result in forms I was trying to type in getting erased.
>implying I'm new
i7 in laptops are just ridiculous. Laptops are portable computers, battery life should be the number one priority. Anything CPU intensive should be left to desktops, workstations, and servers.
oh, you poor naive bastard...
>using a fisher price unix for retards by retards
I would pay $200 to not have their shitty trackpad and keyboad. No defined buttons on trackpad. Nowhere to rest your thumb because if you put it on the button, it thinks you're trying to do pinch to zoom.
Note this isn't a Mac only problem. Tons of manufacturers adapt this horrible design.
>If Apple engineers actually knew what they were doing, they could use a known superior open-source kernel and their pretty on top of that instead.
>mfw it's true
>mfw the only thing that stops apple froim doing that is linux being licensed under GPL.
Apple/GNU/Linux would be fun.