How does this look for a budget 4k rig?
total $3300 including monitor.
Based on Austin Evans' $4k 4k "Electron" build: http://austinnotduncan.com/builds/electron/
Or I can save a few bucks by selling my processor, motherboard, and gpu(3570k, asrock z77 extreme4, and sapphire dual-x 7970), recycling my case(NZXT Switch 810), power supply(hale90v2 1000w) and hard drives, for a total of ~$2500
It's alright, but there are a few problems I have with the idea.
You're investing in two very good video cards to power a 28 inch TN panel. Not that that particular monitor is bad, but it's still limited by being a TN. At that large form factor, your viewing angles become very important since it's pretty fucking huge. I would highly recommend going for a very quality IPS panel for a few reasons.
1. You could drop down to a remarkably badass 3440x1440 21:9 IPS display and not need to crossfire/SLI to power it.
2. You can stay at 16:9 at 2560x1440 and power it with a single card as well.
3. Both 3440x1440 (34 inches) and 2560x1440 (27 inches) run at right around 110ppi, which is ideal for Windows. At UHD you will have a lot of scaling issues.
4. Long story short, you're throwing a lot of money at a 4K TN build and both will hold you back.
>crossfiring 290x cards
Not a terrible idea, but the 300 cards are around the corner. But it gets back to my original point that you could stick a single 980/290x in a build and power a 110ppi amazing experience.
Builds above $2k are fucking stupid
In case you're serious, I'll tell you why:
From $1k to $2k you'll see about a 50% performance increase, from $2k to $4k you see about a 5% performance increase.
21:9 3440x1440p IPS (could even go for one with a curve)
The gaming experience will shit all over a 4K build and can be done a lot cheaper, even tho you may drop a grand on the monitor.
Sweet, build thread.
Sticking with 1080p at the moment but this is meant to carry into/easy to upgrade into the future as well if/when 4k becomes the standard.
Protip: Nvidia's cards are worse at the super high resolutions than AMD's.
Seriously. The memory bandwidth on AMD cards is better, and that's better for the higher resolutions.
Not that the 290X can do 4K either, 4K is just too big for single GPU cards right now.
The 390X might be the one.
But if you want 4K gaming, you want to wait for it, at least.
CASE: Fractal Design Define R5 Black
COOLER: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
MOTHERBOARD: Gigabyte Z97X-UD5H-BK
SSD: Crucial MX100 256GB SSD
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB
OD: LG BH16NS40
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Gaming G1 WindForce OC 4GB GDDR5
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0Ghz
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G2
RAM:16GB CL7 1600MHz
What is your monitor? And what will you be using it for?
If you're at 1080p that's a little overkill since 970/290 can handle that res with ease.
8GB of ram is plenty for most tasks, tho certain Adobe Creative Suite softwares love them some ram.
PSU is overkill. A quality 500-600w will power a 980.
Why do you need an optical drive?
Hobby video/photo editing, gaming, browsing 4chan and watching animays. I own a 24'' 1080p monitor but I plan to go for 1440p in the future. I would buy the 970 but you already know its problems. I want this to be future proof for 5-6 years that's why I went a bit overkill with the ram, PSU is just in case I go for a dual GPU config in the future
>Why do you need an optical drive?
All 3.5 jokes aside, the 970 is still a very strong card.
At 1440p (assuming 16:9) a 970 or a 980 will handle it well for a while. There isn't a comfy line at the moment where you can overkill a certain res and future proof for bigger resolutions in the future, with a single card that is.
4K needs SLI/Xfire and 1440p can be ran with big single cards. So it's very hard to future proof with a GPU right now.
The most important point is that there is not a very big difference between a 970 and a 980 until you get to high resolutions where neither on their own is ideal. You're paying a lot extra for very little extra performance.
>500gb hard drive
other than that it's not terribad
of course I didn't. but upon inspection
>rosewill power supply
>no-name GAMING keyboard
>shitty acer monitors
>single DIMM of ram at 2400mhz
>$500+ processor+cooling in a shitty poorfag build
it's full on retarded.
I was thinking of waiting for AMD's 300 series and the z97 mobo refresh including USB 3.1 Type-A and Type-C
Is the new usb type-c thing worth it or a flop? Say, 2 years from now will mice and keyboards and monitors and such come in type-c?
it is sort of enough for me
>other than that it's not terribad
well yeah, its just the cpu im defending. since everyone here thinks op will be better off with an i7, either get one that could make a difference or just get an i5
he also mentioned photo/video editing so 2 extra cores would be nice
also shitty poorfag build? guy is ready to spend 3.3k bucks
These fucking super builds are the biggest gimmick I swear.
Just find some two-gen old parts on ebay.
I just upgraded from an 8800GT to a brand new GTX 460 for $20.
Then again I don't play demanding games like crisis and battlefield because I'm not a huge faggot.
I think it would be smart to wait on the 300 cards just to see how that plays out. Early buyers usually find the bugs so I'd give it time to see how they're performing at each price point. At least then, you'd be able to make a better decision on your build.
A side effect is it could make the 970/980 drop in price. The 290x was a 500-600 dollar video card until the 970 and 980 launched, then it was dropped to 350.
$3300 for a toy is not a budget anything. I could justify spending that much on outdoor equipment, but not indoor equipment. It would only make sense if you game in a "professional" capacity, like a streamer or game tester/reviewer.
The final piece comes next week: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JtnkmG
So excited for my first desktop. I'm going to build it myself, too. My computing experience shall be reborn!
The shitty poorfag build is the guy putting literally 1/4 of his entire build+peripherals budget into his processor and sacrificing on everything else in his build.
Sorry m8, some of us actually care about our hardware.
Maybe I can sell you my old shit when I upgrade. I'm sure the 7970 I'm ugrading from would be a huge upgrade to your housefire.
You don't know what budget means. Considering that I took a $4000 build, added a 4k moniter, and still cut out $700, this is definitely a budget build.
Very nice. Are you recycling a GPU from a previous build, or is this a business computer?
>Paying money for arbitrary bit patterns
>Calling me a thief
again, have you checked the price on cpu/cooler? its about same as yours. x99 isnt as expensive as you think.
and again, why get i7 at all then?
oh well whatever, get an i5 with HT for 70 bucks more and call it budget build
Oh no, now having money to spend and knowing how to use words contextually makes me a childish retard?!
The difference is that my processor and processor cooling is a total 14% of my build, which is comprised of mostly pretty high end hardware.
His processor and cooling are 26% of his build cost, and he skimped on almost everything else in his build.
My build would be a powerhouse, and his would be absolute shit.
It's literally linked in the post that you're quoting.
I literally removed the $1000 cpu from my build.
The shiniest piece of shit is still a turd.
Any keyboard that's called the "nighthawk x7" and has a backlight is gaming shit, and when it's overpriced and from a brand I've never heard of, it's not going to be any good.
On top of that, it's gaming shit with blue switches, because it's marketed to gamers who don't know the difference.
You can get a CM QFR with reds or blacks for ~$80, or a QF-XT for ~$90, if you're not into TKL.
Not even a richfag, I only made $10,000 in 2015. Just get good at saving your money for the shit you want.
14% of your 3300 bucks build, 26% of his 2000 build, dat logic
so basicly what you are saying is because he doesnt spend as much money as you, it makes it a shit build.
you know what im out, you link a utter shit build, when ppl talk bad about it you get upset :(
If this is a budget build what is then a non-budget build since you can't get much better hardware than this? Why do you want 4k when it's still not optimized or used? Why do you think that someone is poor just because they are spending money smarter than you and don't want to throw cash like mindless idiots? Companies sure love dumb people cause they are easy to milk and laught at.
A non-budget build would be a build without a budget. My budget was obviously "less than this guy who spent $4000 and didn't even get a monitor with it"
I cut $1300 out of that buy's build.
How is this even something that you're having trouble understanding?
Budget does not mean "cheap", budget means keeping it under a set amount of money.
>shits on me for having a "gaming" keyboard because you "think" it's one
>links me an actual gaming keyboard ( that's actually called one)
>if you like blues you're an uneducated faggot
You're an opinionated idiot.
Obviously because it's too expensive for a keyboard I've never heard of and for a keyboard that has features of which I do not approve.
>old gen GPUs
>literally current generation GPUs.
I'd use a trip but then the the thread would be full of retards shitposting about how trips are bad.
Again, future-proofing, and GPUs are not in a good spot for it with 4k around the corner. If it wans't for the 4G issue with the 970s I'd SLI them, but that won't solve the RAM problem. What would you do?
you can very easily save up to 660$ on a smaller, better looking build that will get the same performance on pretty much every single game.
The only difference you'll see will be in synthetic benchmarks and rendering applications like Keyshot Pro. i7 is a scam imo literally just an i5 with extra threads that generally aren't even used. If you really want extra cpu power move up to a 6-core i7 or a xeon, but keep in mind it won't necessarily get better fps in games. Also please people need to stop quoting logicalincrements, as much as I love the website their "high-end" builds are trash fodder
I could save another $200 by recycling my 3570k instead of buying the 4690k, because it's really very little improvement.
by not buying shitty acer monitors. I'm not just talking shit now, I've had acer monitors, and they're absolutely terrible. Imagine the worst backlight bleed you can imagine and then add 20% more bleed.
Asus makes solid monitors. If you just need a cheap 1080p display, you can get anything from asus.
if it's for gaming, think about getting a vg248qe, which is what I use. You'll benefit more from 144hz than from two displays. Think about getting an ips display for your secondary because there's no reason not to go ips if you're not gaming on it. I got a u2312hm for cheap and I don't regret it.
If you're doing graphical design work, then you NEED an IPS monitor BEFORE you buy a TN panel for gaming.
The display is the one thing you can NOT skimp on if it's for business.
1080p is not enough, and I'd go bigger than 24"
something like this would work well http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G1XA5131
Sorry that I've spent the whole thread talking shit about your build with some asshole who had no idea what he's talking about. I'll have an updated build for you in 10-15 minutes.
here you go
It'll cost a little more, but it will be a LOT better for what you need to do with it.
pick one of the monitors, and remove the other one. one is QHD and one is UHD.
for design work, you NEED more RAM, you NEED as high a resolution panel as you can afford, and you'll benefit from more VRAM.
Your graphics should be as much of your budget as possible.
If you can afford it, get another 16gb ram kit to throw in there.
but 3k$ ist very much. You should really build something you want to use for longer and change graphics cards after some years and don't buy the most expensive stuff.
One gpu will do. 4k is not good for gaming.
If you want to play games you can get 3 1080p screens or one good ips or amva and one 144hz tn for gaming. that way you have a screen with good quality and a fast one.
Trust me it makes a difference. I am also using the 2 different screen setup.
And for your amusement:
you can buy supah gayming pc here:
>really. take a look at those ridiculous offers
Better, but I'd say for the same-ish price, I think this one would do you a lot better:
4k will be great for gaming, but is even better for working. 1080p simply doesn't cut it for actual work. You need a mouse with a perfect sensor, and linus recommends the cm m45. I would've said to get a g400, but they're all gone forever.
For working, if you're not going to be using headphones, you need powerful speakers. For $100, the ones I've included are pretty solid(from personal experience).
The PSU I included is similar to the one you selected, but a lot cheaper.
Same ram, same keyboard, either motherboard would probably be fine, case doesn't really matter, but personally I would(and did) go for one from NZXT for looks their phantom goes on sale a lot.
It's scary that there might actually be people buying things from them. Absolutely terrible website, and the specifications are as ambiguous as possible. I think they're throwing in the shittiest bargain-bin hardware they can find.
>EVGA Nvidia GeForce Series 2 Gigabyte Video Card
Don't buy that crappy SSD. It's not even the newest generation of that model type. Buy a Samsung 850 Evo instead. (850 Evo Pro if you want to spend extra for more reliability even though the 850 Evo is extremely reliable)
Just finished my build. It's expensive, but it should last me a few years.
Asus X99 Deluxe
Corsair 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4-2400
Corsair H110i GT
2x EVGA GTX 980
Samsung 512GB XP941 x4 SSD
Noctua fans (found the 140s for 13.99 a piece!)
No window, solid panel on both sides.
3x ROG Swift monitors will be replacing my current Samsung 5760x1080 setup soon. Just found out I'm having my first kid, so it's probably my last purchase for the next 18-22 years.