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since new bread, new question...
has anyone successfully transplanted the guts from a x220t to the non tablet x220 chasis. i have an x220 that i love dearly that is being a pain and am in the mood to fix it using such a method...
want to get my first think pad, it's gonna be used mostly for coding and a bit of pen testing.
cant decide between the t420/t430 and X220
im a bit hesitant about the low res screen on the X220, seems like it would be horrible for multitasking. also opinions on getting a refurbished tp on newegg?
Stuck between the X61 Tablet, the X230 Tablet, and the T430s for Comp Sci classes. I feel like the ability take notes with a pen and OneNote would be nice. If I got the X61 it'd be the 1400x1050 model so the higher resolution over the X230 would be nice but then I'd have to deal with difficulties in upgrading the HDD to an SDD.
Given such choices, I'd toss up the X230t and T430s. Touchscreen, IPS panel, fun and a bit more battery life, or higher resolution panel and more working room.
The X61t's battery life doesn't really cut it any more
And there aren't really any difficulties in upgrading, regular 9.5mm (as opposed to the also regular 7mm in the T430s and X230t). It's just that unless you flash Middleton's on, the SSD will run at SATA I
At the end of the day though, I always found a real pen and paper to be a lot better taking notes, especially since you can have all of them set out in front of you
Why can't my X300 support libreboot
The BIOS takes longer than the bootloader+OS+login. I would literally have about an 8 second off-to-usable-desktop time if not for the shitcan BIOS.
You need a system board to match your target case. Ebay the tablet system board and buy a non-tablet board, probably for less money.
Lenovo hardware manuals are excellent so download one.
All X200s'es have this.
>led backlit screen
>intel 5300 wifi
If this is the only spec they're giving you, then it's also meaningless.
There's models with 1280x800 screen (CCFL and LED backlit) and shitty intel 5100 wifi. I only mentioned those stats because they were relevant when discussing different x200s variants. Well, I forgot to mention CPU, it's SL9400
I've seen people mention that (on the X2xx series at least) the 9 cell battery extends a good deal and is very sturdy. So much so that the manufacturer wanted it to be capable of being a handle
I don't have a thinkpad yet but that seems very risky to me
>paying anymore than $100 for a highly out of date laptop
I was entertaining the idea of getting one myself. Looking on eBay and on these threads I was baffled by the outrageous prices being thrown around by computers that are about 10 years old.
Seriously guys come the fuck on. You can get triple the performance on a newer laptop with so much less hassle of one of these nostalgic POS. Shave your neckbeards and grow the fuck up.
>Looking on eBay and on these threads I was baffled by the outrageous prices being thrown around by computers that are about 10 years old.
took me literally 1 minute
lol buttmad tripfaggot
Are you upset I'm point out the ridiculous flaws in your "hobby"? Am I fogging your nostalgia goggles? Am I brushing your neckbeard?
Why the fuck do you enjoy paying more to use vastly inferior equipment?
No, no and no.
I am a masochist, thats why.
ThinkPads are just not for you.
Like how some people can pay up the ass for gourmet/cuisine food while others would be happy with animal style fries, I will not try to persuade you that ThinkPads are good, nor will I try to justify my 'hobby/interest'.
I like to go running/jogging and enter a few events, but do I go out and be the greatest? Nah, I just do it for fun, I collect ThinkPads for fun, I also like to get ridiculed for fun as well. I am totally okay with taking criticism (sizm?)
Are there any photos of the X61 next to a X61 tablet?
I'm thinking of getting one of these, and I wouldn't really use the touch screen at all, but the tablet has a higher resolution available for it, so I don't know which one to get.
Slow down there a bit, there was an optional SXGA+ screen for the X61T but it is plagued by getting bubbles in the screen due to the glue slowly leaking away, it affects some buttons and could potentially get into contact with the inverter too.
I have one, it hasn't gotten bad but I've had it about a year and it looked near new but its leaking somewhat and getting kinda gunky. yucky indeed! :3 *chomp <3*
But the benefit of the base XGA Tablet X61 is that you get an IPS display, but again, most of the units were equipped with digitizer screens, only a few are 'multitouch' which means they accept digizier and finger input.
The tablet and X61s use the same motherboard, the non slim X61 has a slightly beefier fan to accept a T7300 to T9100 (I think)
>don't have a photo of my old X61 next to my X61T...
Its old as shit, got 4 of em for like $30 and mett a cool fellow from it too. But like, they don't have HDD caddies and have floppy drives, total bummer for reselling for what I intended, they were made in 2004 and have 1.4GHz Pentium M I believe, I didn't know what it was spec wise but they were at a cheap price for my city.
Two have a fucked up screen, and one didnt have a keyboard.
One had a bios lock, had to remove the cmos battery to get rid of the password.
Wasn't as easy as removing the bottom plate, took some time, becaue you have to get to the motherboard. Maybe it would be possible with a special set of tweezers.
Tough as shit though I gotta say that, I want to fix one up and keep it in the trunk of my car.
It's a good price for the units if they had HDD caddies. You're gonna sink almost twice as much into just one caddy as you did for all four computers.
Are the batteries still good?
I bought two CF-T7's recently for $15. They're great. I'm going to be getting some T8's for $25 shortly.
2530p? That's cool. I was willing to pay a premium for the aesthetics of a thinkpad. x200s is a thing of beauty to me. It embodied the "bento box" look with the way the keyboard goes right up to the edges and cool minimalism with trackpoint w/o trackpad.
Sadly it uses a UltraBay Plus drive which is one of the thickest I've encountered. It will not fit in a T43, I think the pinouts are different.
Believe me, I wanted to have a numpad ultrabay for a recent machine.
I had bought a W700 numpad and a ThinkPad USB keyboard to try it out.
The numpad's connector is the same size that you would find from a Z60 to T400's keyboard. I disasembled the external keyboard, got to that connector and hoped it would be a simple plug and play with the USB.
Sadly it did not work, but luckily it didn't brick the connector.
If I had better set of skills, I think I would be able to debug that shiz.
It would be a tight fit, but modifying a CD drive could work, the only issue would be connecting it to a USB. I would of soddered the USB connectors internally, but the downfall is that it would need to be disassembled if you decide to swap ultrabays. I think there was some sort of internal express card or PCI-e slot thing for USBs to where I wouldn't run the wires.
Havent been able to test it yet, but it took a charge and turned on without the AC adapter so I thought that was cool.
These all go online, either fast or slow
>W700ds, QX9300 FX3700M, 8GB RAM, 120GB used Adata SSD, 320GB Toshiba, docked, non-OEM battery shuts off intermittently
>X61T, L7500, 4GB, 120GB Patriot Pyro? SSD, bubbly SXGA+, big ass non-oem works fine
>X300, 3GB, 80GB SSD, 2 1/2 ish hour battery life from dying cells (ultrabay lasts 5 min), Crunchbang, fkn glorious to type on
>T43p, Pentium M 780, 160 PATA Toshiba, UXGA IPS, yellowing from previous owner due to sunlight, gets HDD error code due that can be bypassed or bios updated
>T30, 2GHz P4M, 80GB, 512MB RAM, Cruncbang, 20 min battery, needs internal wifi, XGA sadly, nice chunky machine
>701C, 486, lol hdd, crusty, nonworking dock, floppy connector, coil whine, needs battery, cmos dead
>365XD, ??? needs hinge replacement, comfy as fuck to type on, cmos error, plastic body
>235, imported by previous owner, shiny keys, needs dem camera batteries, one speaker is broken, smallest non palmtop thinkpad? Cmos works, Win 98SE I think
>600X, PII, no battery, floppy, needs a proper OS, it struggles to load a webpage, but will get there after 5 minutes. 600 series confirmed for smelling the weirdest smelling but best built ThinkPad
>755CE, cmos error, doesn't load OS, HDD spins, unsure if works. proprietary 4-pin DC cable is pricey to source, cheap extender/adapter can be found for under $5 and works via T43p charger
>A31p, UXGA, ruined with CF wrap, numeric keypad, dock, non-oem battery dies, wifi broke
>770X/ED, NOT the 5:4 model sadly
>PS/2 Note 425, its somewhere at my parents place, plastic 700C basically
>2x T400, R400, 3x T61, W500, 3x X61 (variants), T42p, T40 (lcd tester), 2x 380Z, A20m, 2x T60
>3x W500, T410, X61T, T61, R61, X130e, T400, T60p, Z60m
Theres about 8 4channers with much more impressive and better ThinkPad collections than me.
And about 150 TPF users with god tier units
Gonna be heading to sleep, so I don't have time to post, but here's some shit from my imgur
>PS/Note 425 (mistook it as PS/2 in previous post)
>701C, mainly the same pose
>Z60m, someone bought this outright for $140 instead of just auction sniping
>W500 with carbon faggotry
The W701DS is much better, 4 ram slots, FX3800M, i7 with a true quad processor. Oddly enough the HP 8740w sells higher than it. My guess is the IPS display. Waiting for one with unkown specs to be shipped, if it has an IPS display, I will try to see if it works on my W700ds :) and resell the Elitebook for twice what I paid if it accepts the ThinkPad screen swap.
But this thing throttles under full load because the CPU and GPU share the same cooler. Also unlike the 700/701, the GPU can't be upgraded.
I wonder if I could stick a W520 or W530 motherboard in it.
15 units of T61 just arrived at my workplace, where we disassemble and resell electronics. I could buy a few of those to myself, should I?
Few of them are in pretty good shape, not really used at all.
How do I find out which panel each has?
Pic from the freshest one.
Sold this baby this past Tuesday for $180. Bought it for $57 + $20.50 accessory. Pretty happy camper here.
I get 'em cheap or I don't buy them, and when I add an SSD then my net result is better for my use case overall than something newer but with inferior storage.
Last X200 tablet I bought was 70 shipped. New Anker battery 34 bucks, had a Samsung Evo 120GB I'd gotten for 75 a while back. 170 gets me an excellent machine for my use case which is a breeze to work on and will last many years, just like my other Pads which have lasted many years. With SSD prices dropping the math is fine.
I don't need fast portables, I have an i7 desktop/20GB RAM (couple years old, nothing special as I don't gayme) and an i7 Dell XPS if I need a quicker lappy for something. I need fairly tough portables with matte screens since most of my content consumption is reading etc and I don't game.
The last T61 I got was 20 bucks shipped because the seller wrote a poor description and no one else bid. I know my Pads thanks to the thinkpads.com forums. It's now one of my shop PCs. Threw a leftover spinner drive in that since it's low priority but I need it for motorcycle manuals etc.
I'm fine with other brands if they serve me well but having a few Pads as standard is nice. I won't mourn if one gets dropped (yank the SSD, stuff in other Pad and back to work in ten minutes) or stolen or needs to come down for cleaning.
I have a WUXGA T61/600GB spinner/8GB for light CAD work (love the display), an X200 non-tablet 8GB/120GB Intel SSD for school, couple T61s in my shop buildings (keyboard skins work well BTW), X200 tablet w. Ubuntu for misc portable surfing (I don't surf using Windows) and to take with when fixing customer PCs, and a T61 for travel (little screens are a joke for GPS when you can have 15.4").
I've one customer who sells insurance, loves his T61s, and when he breaks it he buys another from me. He makes good money but prefers the keyboard and build quality tho he's not a /g/tard. He'd rather spend his loot on mortgage payments and vehicles. Perfect used Pad use case.
Got a t420, and x200t, an x60t, an x220t and an x200. All great machines. X220t i use the least though. T420 i use for specific uses. X200t is my favorite one. Good keyboard no trackpad 16:10 ips. The x60t i use for trips so if I get robbed I dont lose much. The x200 non tablet is my dicking around lappy running libreboot and parabola.
I would guess that you'd need an adapter, but you would probably will need to cut out some of the ultrabay frame, but it might stick out.
I've yet to see a reliable USB HDD dock that supports both PATA and SATA.
That was a 14" model.
If you want, use the german site for MTM lookup.
just look on the bottom where it says TYPE, get those 7 characters.
I sold my X200 for $120.
Kinda are accepted here :P
Originally the agreed price was $200, but i lowered it because my add had a mistake... said it was 250gb (7200rpm) but in reality it was only a 150gb. So i told him i'll sell it for $190, but after he inspect it and talked for 1.5 hours he agree to buy it for $180. lol.
I daily my X61T with 4GB RAM, 1.6GHz L7500, SSD with Photoshop CS1, Inkscape and it works great.
As a matter of fact, I made the ThinkPad timeline from it.
Struggles but it played League of Legends, it got hella hot though, I would guess your machine would fare a lot better.
What programs are you going to be using? I need to know the 'market' so I can sell an X61T and maximize muh profits.
Interesting. I'll definitely pick up that X201 I saw around campus. Would $200 be a good price for this? :
All accessories included
Decent/expected condition for a TP
As for programs, can't really give specific names as I'm procrastinating in class on my phone. I'll see about getting a list later today. Probably just photoshop, browser, strategy and misc older games (if they work) and code editors.
my 1+1 is absolute fucking tits; I love it to death.
How much would you pay for a custom lid or replacement chassis for your thinkpad with Sandstone Black texture?
the texture is gritty enough to be grippy, but it's soft at the same time and doesn't scratch up.
The layout is shit but the actual feeling of the keys is the same.
Hell, there's nothing wrong with the *30 models as the layout is still a little bit sane.
The *40 series is when it went full retard.
My uncle wants me to get a new laptop for him if he gives me the money, he has a £500 budget and I was thinking about getting him a thinkpad of some description as it seems like the sort of thing that he'd like.
Even though he has a £500 budget I'd prefer to try and save him some money by getting something that would fit his requirements for less. All he uses the PC for is browsing the web and watching pirated TV shows I give him that are in either 720p or 1080p.
Anyone here be able to point me to some models that would be able to do this in the price ranger?
Also where a good place to buy thinkpads online in the UK?
I have some screen burn in since I play a lot of my media on my second monitor and leave things like 4chan up on the main screen. Now, I just get a pure black picture and "full screen" it to prevent further screen burn in.
i thought i have but after rebooting or closing and reopening the monitor what i think is screen burn-in dissipates, sort of like a ghost image of what was previously on the screen. not quite sure to make of it.
i was just wondering if IPS is susceptible to burn-in or not as i would prefer if this tablet not require any sort of repairs for at least 6 years.
that is sort of what i am doing right now, i have it feeding video only to an external monitor so i can still use the keyboard and stick
What type of RAM does x201 support? Thinkwiki suggests "2, 3 or 4GB PC3-8500 or PC3-10600 memory standard, upgradable to 8GB" but I've found a thread on lenovo forums where even following the spec the ram wasn't working with the Thinkpad.
My x201 runs 8GB of mixed RAM just fine.Handle 0x002B, DMI type 17, 28 bytes
Array Handle: 0x002A
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: 64 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 4096 MB
Form Factor: SODIMM
Locator: DIMM 1
Bank Locator: Bank 0/1
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1334 MHz
Serial Number: 61D2D4FD
Asset Tag: 1038
Part Number: M471B5273CH0-CH9
Handle 0x002C, DMI type 17, 28 bytes
Array Handle: 0x002A
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: 64 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 4096 MB
Form Factor: SODIMM
Locator: DIMM 2
Bank Locator: Bank 2/3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1066 MHz
Serial Number: 0009FB82
Asset Tag: 1331
Part Number: JM1066KSN-4G
Does anyone have a picture of an x220 next to an x220t, one opened and one with the lid closed?
Installed Crunchbang and a 32GB SSD on a single-core X120e I impulse-bought last month. Used to be laggy as shit, but now it's lightning fast for Chrome browsing, Botnet Docs for work, plays 10-bit Chinese cartoons, and weighs almost nothing on top of it all. Is linux magical, or is Windows 7 just slow as shit on weaker hardware?
I'm getting an x220 in the mail hopefully by Wednesday, planning to do my usual routine of clean install, cleaning everything up physically, probably install mint and mess around with that a bit
What are the first things on your new laptop list, /g/?
I just want to say I bought a Thinkpad because of these threads on /g/ and it was a complete piece of shit. I had to return it, it was unbearable. fuck you all and eat shit for these threads making me think thinkpads were great. they suck. please die.
My refurbished T420 just arrived this evening.
-Impeccable cosmetic condition. Not a single scratch, scuff, etc.
-The only "mechanical" issue I have found is that the volume buttons seem to be "loose," that's the only term I can think of to describe them. It seems to actually be a single rocker button, and any pressure whatsoever can slide it around. It still works but I may pursue a fix soon.
I only got the standard model, 1600x900, Nvidia GPU, 4GB of RAM, 500GB HDD, etc. I'll be getting a Crucial MX100 and another 4GB of RAM in the next few weeks though and that should make things better.
As it is, I'm quite pleased with it and would strongly recommend the T420. I've played with the T430 and T440 and don't feel that they live up to the build standard, but your mileage may vary and to each their own.
thinking about doing this to my x60. Which cells would you recommend getting for replacement? Thinking about just buying a lenovo battery, but then I would have to check which cells would fit my battery...
yeah, I havent done it either, but connecting the cells in parallel would be dangerous if the cells have different charge by even the smallest voltage, just saw a battery on amazon and supposedly it is a genuine lenovo battery with a 12 month limited replacement warranty, my only worries is that the battery would not fit in my x6 ultrabase
one question however, what is the shelf life of a battery that is kept in good enviornment for storage? If this is the real deal I'm thinking about buying a couple for later
I just wanted a shitbox for file archiving and /g/ hipster cred
and this is what you give me
depends on your specs, but the X130e with e-350 wasn't THAT bad for a machine running wangblows 7, but an X230 is loads better.
I'm finally going to join the ThinkPad #420blazeitfaggot master race this friday.
>needs battery, scuffs on screen, dirty keys, scratched
Nabbed it for $130 as a buy it now, seller just had it wayyy to low imo, going to try to remove the scratches on the screen with isoprofyl and water.
Reselling that bitch for $300
I don't even know anymore
I tried installing NT4 through a VM, separated the drive into two 3.9 GB partitions and now even if I delete everything it still lists two separate blocks of "unpartitioned space" and now it's giving me this shit
maybe disk management can defuck it
lel, it created two clones of the same partition (???), then I closed and re-opened it and it gave me one with no drive letter, formatted it and then rebooted, worked OK
took the drive out for file transfers (thing's fucking dead in the water without drivers), decided to use the second partition to do it hoping it wouldn't fuck up the first one
>get pic related again
I'm too tired for this shit right now.
get some 18650 panasonic 3400mah cells, and charge them up with a standalon charger, if the charger doesn't display voltage check them with a multimeter before installing
gain probably double capacity or more
Hi can someone help me choose a think pad
-Decent size/ thickness
-Able to run Lol without overheating
- has an at least 8 hour battery running debian or similar distro
-Price in not really a problem, probs $1500 tops
Really dumb question: I bought a replacement keyboard for my X201 because it came with a German one, which is azerty (or more accurately, qwertz) levels of retarded. Thing is, while the trackpoint does work, the mouse buttons don't. There's no huge visible damage, but what with the way these things are made, you can't really look at the innards without taking it apart big time. Am I fucked and should I just get a new one, or is this a common problem / easily fixed?
I'm sitting on a T61, running crunchbang linux.
It's got a centrino duo, T2300, and the regular ubuntu install was too much for the computer.
Everything was so slow.
Crunchbang linux seems pretty snappy though.
You've got any other recommendations? Haven't set this up too much yet.
I also bought a W520. They're pretty rare in my country, so I overpaid I suppose.
Maybe it's a hipster thing but these laptops really feel good. This keyboard man, best keyboard I've had on a laptop ever. I've also got an X1 Carbon and that keyboard is awful.
ThinkPads are great devices with great build quality, hardware, and convenience. It really depends on what model of ThinkPad to see that it is "highly out of date". Define "highly out of date". What is that supposed to mean when one can re-purpose old hardware?
Once ThinkPads are done being used as company computers or whatever it was before, their is an abundance of them that can still function to this day. As a student, my ThinkPad is the best investment I have ever placed into a laptop. I own an x200T and it's my favorite device to use for studying, word process, code, do some light-gaming, edit photos, and also browse the internet. I rather pay $130 on a dated machine that suits my needs than on a $1300 machine that is "triple the performance" because I don't need that on a laptop. I already built a computer for that.
Also, you seem mad, why is that?
Isn't that going to kill the battery life?
I'm interested in the X41 with SXGA display but it wasn't mentioned in the buyer guide.
That thing looks like crap, no offense.
> 12.1" TFT display with 1024x768 resolution
Oh wow you sure are looking at a high-rez screen right there.
Can you even make a list of basic requirements? If you are going to ditch a laptop over it's looks just get a Mac Air.
>Able to run lol without overheating
elevate it, as for being able to run lol, the w520 may work, just research the mobile gpu, make sure its not a fx series if you want gaymen unless you're going to mod your drivers.
>8 hour battery life
You wont get this using your gpu
well fuck most people in here use 2-300 dollar thinkpads
The W series is your desktop replacement series and is similar to what you want
That's just calling it for i5 models. I'd rather get the extra power of the i7-qm. Which is why I am currently using a Latitude E6420 as my desktop replacement. Still use a T420s as my porn laptop
>There's no way to replace the cells in it with something higher capacity?
old laptops have worse battery life because of the components they have consume a lot of power, battery tech hasn't improved very much over the years