Where will you be on 2015-03-02, the exact day that consoles become obsolete?
Only hours to go.
Old thread >>46756306
http://schedule.gdconf.com/list (ctrl+f for valve)
>valve holds a presentation called "Physics for Game Programmers : Physics Optimization Strategies" on the 3/3 on 3pm
Plebs who need it easy and don't run a different GNU/Linux distro with a steam client installed.
That's not really the exciting stuff. Everything around it that's happening is the good part.
I guess so, but it doesn't come preinstalled on "living room computers".
I'm not sure what valve's going to do with SteamOS now. It's still in beta and the controller's apparently finalized.
So these three are the only presentations in the public schedule I could find that are from valve.
On Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
I guess the other stuff they announced on their website will be presented at their own booth and are not in designated rooms, right?
If so, I think we can expect to get the gist of all their new stuff already on Monday.
Unless they decide to do their VR demos and showcasing of their new hardware staggered, spread over the week.
pls no, i dont want to have to build up my hat collection all over again
>babbys first non windows os designed for le meme gaming culture
>a 'me too' rift wannabe
>a joypad that's still not as good as kb+m
Valvedrones are worse than macfags at this point
not exactly. There are entire new interface, it allows you to control it with gamepad in every moment so you don't need keyboard anymore. Also, there are some kernel patches and os boots up in three seconds.
I have it installed, it's still a gimmick - but fun and very suited for "console-like" usage.
Okay maybe GLNext will be good, but how they'll manage the drivers ? steamOS use linux kernel, and the drivers are, not bad, I'll say okay, but far away to be good.
Will they pay nvidya, intel, amd to get good drivers ?
oh and stupid question. Steam OS is opensource ?
>Steam OS is opensource ?
It's a debian repo with a few patches for lower latency and a script that boots Steam on startup.
>Will they pay nvidya, intel, amd to get good drivers ?
Nvidia drivers are already considered "good enough" being pretty much identical to the windows ones, and they are already shipping games for Linux. Presumably they are telling oems to lay off AMD for the time being
Nvidia driver's OpenGL performance is as good as their DirectX performance on Windows.
AMD driver's OpenGL performance is as bad as their OpenGL performance on Windows.
Intel driver like all the open source drivers lags in feature support but the performance (at least on RadeonSI) is decent enough for playing most games. Hopefully Intel's newest integrated hardware is fast enough to play games.
well, I run windows sometimes, and use linux as my primary OS, and I can guaranty you that the drivers aren't good as the windows one. both nvidia and amd since I got two computers to test them. It's hard to say how much the windows drivers improve the performance, but for me it seems to be between ~x3.5 or x4
That's mainly AMD's catalyst driver. The other big problem is that a lot of engines just aren't as optimized for Linux/OpenGL as they are for Windows/DirectX so some games still perform poorly.
>AMD driver's OpenGL performance is as bad as their OpenGL performance on Windows
OpenGL runs faster on AMD cards than DirectX does. What's lacking behind on Linux isn't their OpenGL implementation, but the driver in general.
If their OpenGL implementation really was terrible, then AMD would have chosen to open-source their implementation like they're currently doing with the rest of the driver
I hope you are joking, the only way to kill consoles is if they make a pc with the exact same graphics and stability( for the same price) as consoles that can run games at least 7 years into the future. and I dont mean indie shit.
Steambox can do that but i havent heard a thing about what happened to them.
It will be interesting to see how their new driver strategy pays off. For the moment though there's still no reason for me to even look at Catalyst when RadeonSI and Mesa work so well. With any luck the features standing in the way of OpenGL 4 support will start to drop in soon.
I'm on Radeonsi myself too, because Fglrx truly is broken. A damn shame that barely any current AMD cards will use the new unified driver. So I guess future versions of Fglrx will only support Tonga, Hawaii and the 300 series.
They will. Mesa 10.6 will sure reach OpenGL 4.0 compliance, perhaps 4.1 or even 4.2, considering many of the extensions are already supported
They are getting close, but R600 and RadeonSI are unfortunately still lagging behind. I want to believe that they'll get there this time around, but they've only added one R600 feature recently.
I wonder if they'll abandon run-time GLSL shader compilation in favor of a system more like how DirectX works. That would seem to really greatly simplify things.
RadeonSI is getting better all the time, some tests are now exceeding FGLRX.
It's pretty much the only reason I read phoronix - to see the FOSS Radeon driver and nouveau's progress.
The DX9 state tracker news blew my mind.
>FOSS drivers playing Windows games faster than both Windows and Wine CSMT with proprietary drivers.
phoronix is a shit site otherwise, articles are 100% quantity over quality and the forums are worse than /g/.
Only 'supported' OS'es for Steam are Ubuntu and Fedora (ie. Valve won't help you for dicks if it's not those)
Game devs on the otherhand seem to be pushing Ubuntu or Gentoo
>Yes, really, Gentoo.
Late to the game here, but I've got an intel and a nvidia card, on a desktop and laptop.
The intel card is identical on both, intels pretty good about that.
The nvidia cards performs just as well on linux, only thing it's missing is the fancier windows interface, and shitty gimmicks like 3d in browser and co, the 'Geforce Experience' crap. Fuck that shit.
Do people actually think Oculus has some kind of untouchable standard of VR hardware?
I've tried it along with that Google cardboard shit. The difference was negligible. It's actually surprising that OR isn't that far ahead of the cheapest alternative.
I tried to use an Nvidia card on ubuntu while I waited to finish mounting a Win 8.1 iso on my usb, and the drivers broke the DE.
Maybe it's just because it's fucking unity, but that really upset me.
Nvidia always seems to do one though. Can we at least hope for some youtube clips? I remember seeing one when they announced the Steam Machines but that looked like an outside the conference hall thing.
>Yes, really, Gentoo.
'cause it actually has NOTHING that will lock them into Gentoo.
It's community-run and does nothing special (there is no one that will force wayland or Xorg specifically, for instance), so whatever works on Gentoo can work on any other halfway normal distro, too.
In time, yes.
Even more so if name does not change over time, while on the other hand JapanStation and MurricaBox have TTL about 6 years max, since sooner new ones come out, sooner new cycle of milk-the-consolefag begins.
Did Android outsell iPhone?
In 2008, people laughed when I said that Android is the future.
Well who is laughing now?
TBH, they are, because they are perfectly happy with their Android phones and everyone forgot about my prophecy.
Android is the future yet iPhone devs make more money on apps. Hard to be a dev and deal with piracy. iPhone has that too but I wager most people wouldn't go through the jailbreak process.
gives a little bit more information.
>“At GDC, they're going to have more information,” … “And we'll be there. That's the official stuff we can say. They came out with the controller, then they got some user feedback, and they had to revamp it; they got some more user feedback and had to revamp it again. So they went through that like three or four times. And now their controller is finalized. So now they're going to production and at GDC is when they're going to announce more stuff.”
>going to production
Fuck, let me order already.
Once the normalfags start to realize how easy it is to use, how cheap the games are, the lack of loading times, cd's, and DRM that actively helps you install your games on as many machines as you like along with allowing your friends to play your games it'll catch on.
Yes, the only four presentation I found are these posts >>46790950 >>46790981
Looks like those scheduled talks are in separate rooms and they show their stuff at their booth >>46807030
So we don't really see what exactly they're showing when because the stuff at their own booth is not in a schedule since it's not in a special room.
>oh yeah, you know it wil get cracked open and changed..its the way things are :)
how else could you afford a 600mhz system for $300
I love reading the comments of the ancients.
Nigger, a controller, we're talking about the controller, not a fucking steam machine. Steam machines are for retards / plebs who can't build their own.
If I ever needed a PC in my living room, I'd build one there.
>things a shill would say for sure
Who fucking cares?? the existing controllers are already good enough. Valve isn't presenting anything revolutionary here. A gamepad is a gamepad and it will always be shit compared to kb and mouse
I care, others care. I can't use the existing controllers, they're shit for me. Can't aim. Consoles have aiming aid included because of this. The steam controller is different with its trackpads. It's not like the others. They're creating this for a very specific niche. Playing PC games in a living room environment.
Are you just talking shit? Did you even look at the shit that happened the last 1.5 years?
Stop being contrarian just for the sake of it.
Look, I play with M&KB on the PC, but only on a desk. You can't do that shit on a couch or bed while relaxing unless you consider having a keyboard on your lap comfortable, I don't.
The steam controller is for these scenarios.
1. You can't / don't want to use M&KB or existing controllers
2. You want to play PC games.
It's right on their site where they explain why they even do it.
If you don't need it, just say so, don't be a retard about it.
And I sit in my bed with an ergotron monitor mound on the wall 24/7. This is my "living room". You don't have to take it literally. If you don't want to sit on a computer chair to game once, you got no other options.
implying all droidfags are pirates
I think this goes for every field of tech, but it is most noticeable n console market.
No, they didn't. They also didn't get 300 fags to beta test the controller, and they just stuck with same iteration of controller for whole year. No various iterations at all.
>They also didn't get 300 fags to beta test the controller
You mean valve is playing its cards on the opinion of 300 valve fans who believe valve can't do no wrong? How is it a good thing, testers already fucked up HL2.
Post yfw Source 2 is glNext only and is announced together with [spoiler] Ricochet 2 [/spoiler]
>3 letters HL3 CONFIRMED
>Half-life Three Confirmed
>3/3 3 PM
>Gabe steps on stage
>Gabe: I'm very proud to announce today that, in partnership with HTC, we will be launching a new VR HMD, called the Re Vive...
>a pedestal lights up with the HMD on it
>Gabe: Running Half-Life 3.
>Half-Life Three Confirmed
Holy shit dude, nice find
Wikipedia says HTC was dounded in 1997, the same year Half Life 1 was announced
>tfw you find out that HTC was founded by Valve for exact purpose of making conspiracy around Half-Life series.
They eventually get into upstream tho. I think the current xbox controller support is written by Valve. A custom scheduler tuned for gaming would be more interesting tho.
>Are you just talking shit? Did you even look at the shit that happened the last 1.5 years?
When some idea becomes established on 4chan, it's here to stay. When the Steam controller was unveiled, some people developed the idea that it's literally just a gamepad with trackpads taken from a laptop and is intended to do nothing except replace a gamepad, and it will forever be impossible to convince them otherwise. We'll be hearing about this for years to come.