>entry level IT position
>minimum 2 years IT experience required
>MS Sysadmin position
>5 years experince required
>Only have 2
>Send resume anyway
>Gets called in
>So anon tell us more about your experince working with X
>Tell them about it
>Umm you know this position requires 5 years experince right?
>need 2 years experience for entry-level job
I've learned a few years back that lying out the ass pays off if you want a job.
Not to mention everybody suddenly likes you and think you're the best dude they ever had for the job
I hate myself for doing it but there you go
Fuck it, i have a friend who owns fictional company (it really exists but doesn't work), my plan is to say i worked 5 years for him when i get to the interview. I'll just have to explain how i didn't get any money from that
>need 3 years experience
>"uh sorry anon but you only have 2 years"
I think in my country company that's hiring you can look into your past jobs by looking at money put into your retirement fund. We don't have private retirement funds so it's only public one where it clearly says how many months/years you worked and where and how much money was put from your salary into retirement
I earn half minimum wage, but it's legal in my country because I was unemployed for more than a few months, so those neat minumum wage laws don't apply for me (supposedly so that we NEETs get better chances on the job market, thanks a lot).
You don't even have to lie. I got my current job by being honest about my inexperience, but on the other hand showed that I know my shit through the one month unpaid internship I offered to take.
Come on OP, this is the oldest trick in the book. Just apply anyways. They mostl likely don't give a shit about that number if you can show that you are a capable learner and that you know the technologies on your resume
I made the decision to just "apply anyway" almost exactly 1 year ago. Since then my pay increased from $0 to $20/hour to $25/hour to $55k/year+benefits and plenty of room to advance within the company.
Just do it. Know your shit and always continue learning.
Computer IS senior about to graduate this semester. Which entry level IT related positions should I go for?
>wanting shit tier IT level 1 job
kek. there are people starting out in blue collar that earn twice you do
leave IT shit for the curry niggers and go get a real job, you lazy faggot
I don't know why people don't do this. Surely anyone on this board has been fixing computers for relatives for some amount of time. Someone is bound to have a business, get them to vouch that you were an employee
Or write independant contractor and bring letters of reference. It's really not that hard to get an entry level job.
All this. HR is retarded and most job listings overshoot what they'll actually hire or even want to hire. I landed a job with no experience strait out of highschool. You just have to call and express continued interest, motivation, and basically prove you're not a worthless NEET cuck.
>tfw a high school drop out and I've yet to get a GED (I have to wait until May)
>tfw no job right now or any experience
>tfw I'm a complete waste of space and don't know what to do
I've tried applying for regular old jobs since besides hardware, I don't know much about computers. I even had a second interview with Target but I got an email saying they weren't interested.
I just feel like death is the only way out of this shitty hole.
>tfw stuck in a shitty state with very rare IT job openings
>tfw send out 40+ applications a week, but never get a callback
>tfw have degree and years of part-time work experience
>tfw don't have enough savings to move somewhere with lodsajobs in IT
>tfw will probably join air force just to escape this hell
>bro gets me a job in retail
>help some shit skin with his computer
>he hires me because I'm cheap labor to do desktop support
>get ripped off until I have enough experience on my resume
Easy life dude.
See job posting for a $17hr job with A+ and 2 years exp requirement. Have 4 years, sec+, and a degree and for most cases already doing the job and have the same job title.
>we are sorry to inform you but we decided to push other more qualified applicants forward.
Does this shitlord have a masters and 10 years of experience or something? Who the hell is more qualified going for something as low as $17hr. Fuck San Diego
it doesn't have to be industry experience
>helped school administration
>helped family a friends
>am not a retard
>experience from school
>"bullshit" (if you want)
Jesus people act like this stuff is sacred.
I know this isn't much, but I worked at best buy part time. "Why should we hire you?" ends with me helping a customer right there in store mid interview
What you found is a H1B bait job advertisement.
When companies like this put out job adverts, they put in quite extravagant requirements when they already have the person they want in mind already. They go through the motions of looking for people so they can reject them all and say to the government "Well we looked" to get some cheap indian who'll work for minimum wage.
Or some guy's brother.
Honestly I wonder if we could band together to produce something of value. If it's so impossible to make something of yourself on your own, how is it not reasonable to find a group of people in a similar situation and then work together to make something happen?
what type of experience is good enough for landing this type of entry level shit?
Just general trouble shooting shit? Having a compTIA cert?
I never got my degree but I know how to format drives, use advanced features of all the office programs, install new OS's, understand CMD and all of that shit.
Is that what it takes to get your foot in the door?
fuck best buy though. they give you random hours based on how many sales you can do and pay barely any more than min. wage. can't live off that shit. also non-union so expect no 401k or insurance
About to earn my BS in Computer Information Systems. Already have BBA in Economics. What jobs should I be applying to?
because that $32/day is still almost twice over minimum wage.
also, I live in a part of the country with some of the lowest wages. I plan on moving in summer, I should easily get find a job that pays +50%.
I just want a job so I can stop being a leech off my parents.
I feel bad that they care more about my future than I do.
>spent the last two years since finishing my degree applying for work
>even offer to work for free
>constantly told i don't have enough experience
>invited to interviews for jobs i have no chance at getting so that they can claim they interviewed 100 applicants
Your parents went into work at a time of massive growth, where there was almost no unemployment, when university degrees were only needed to be doctors or academics.
Boomers had it so fucking easy, and they pissed all their wealth away, and yell at us for not working hard enough and being lazy when there is 30% unemployment, and they all drive around in luxury foreign cars.
>get denied entry-level IT position for not having 2 years experience
>apply for entry-level coding position with no experience, get job and make twice as much
things went better than expected
A very small company was looking for some young code monkeys. When I went into the interview they asked me questions about general programming knowledge and I showed I was at least competent. The job I got wasn't even in a language I had ever studied.
That's the thing about a decline, it's slow at first. your wages don't go quite as far, you can't go out as much, you stop traveling. You notice more things are made overseas, and more people work in the services industry. The rich are richer than ever, the economy overall is doing well, it must just be you, but it isn't, it's everybody you know, and everybody they know. And just as it reaches the tipping point the rich start to leave, and pretty soon the economy is non-existent without the money they took with them. Pretty soon wages are getting cut, again and again, people start living together just to make ends meet.
>then give them a call
why have I never thought to do this...
Probably Friedman? Regardless, you're just making vague postulations that aren't modeled on the decline of any economy in history. We're currently in the second longest bull market since the establishment of the New York Stock Exchange in the early 1900's. Just because your Occupy-Wallstreet encouraging Nick-Hanauer fellating yuppie ass can't find a job with 2/3 of an IT degree doesn't mean we're entering a perpetual decline.
>2nd year of college
>Trying to get an internship or part time job so I can get out of my shitty retail job so I don't have to work 40 hour weeks at 9 bucks an hour.
>Don't have any experience to put down
>Resume is shit because I don't know how to sell myself or straight up lie on it.
How do I escape this hell?
I made a .com website, and called it a IT business. I put up some fake quotes and made a contact form that didn't lead anywhere. All of a sudden I could put manager of IT company, and paste my website all over my resume. Got me a ton of interviews, and a help desk job. I lied a lot on my resume as well.
you don't understand
I've been interviewed twice at WalMart and never called back even though I've shown interest multiple times and continue to call and speak with the manager at the store, but no luck ;_;
>Tfw dad hooked me up with IT work study at a big company.
>tfw I can put them on my resume
>Resume is shit because I don't know how to sell myself or straight up lie on it.
Everyone's resume looks like shit til they're in the prime of their career. Just put some turd polish on that thing and send it to as many people as possible.
What the hell do you do when you call them after no response though?
"Hi I sent a resume a week ago and would like to know what you think of it?"
"Oh, you mean the one thats in the trash?"
I did but they said internships will only open in the summer and my current job is destroying my soul and my boss is an asshole.
What are some good job aggregate sites? I already tried Craigslist, monster, and some local start-up news site.
This... Sporting arenas and concert venues have huge turnover on IT positions cause the pay sucks and work conditions are hell. I did it for 3 years and could put 3 years system admin experience on my resume.
how do i make a resume when all i have is 2 years of comp science courses? i can obviously do or learn to do any entry level job but i don't have anything to pad a resume with. do i just do super basic exercises and then claim i have X technology experience when all i did was a warmup?
>entry level mobile development position
>3+ years Swift experience required
Well shit I used to buy and scrap old/broken screened iphones for their motherboards and other parts.
Should I put that under my work experience as ran phone repair business or something? It paid for my weed over the summer but not much else
You do get those benefits if you become full time, but trust me, you DON'T want to be at Best Buy 35+ hours out of your week. Literally the only perks are the employee discount and getting lots of hands on experience with new products, which may be useful if you want to pursue sales further. Otherwise, steer clear. Dumbass customers and incompetent and/or over-demanding management will drain your soul away. Lately I've actually found myself giving away hours to starving part-timers just to take more periodic breaks from that shithole.
>ask to speak to whoever is in charge of hiring you
>"Hi! I'm Anon Anonymous; I submitted an application for the position of <insert position here> and wanted to know if you received it or had any questions about it."
It's that easy when you know how
I don't have any certs or degrees, it was worth it. It's not like it's hard to make a website, you can use a WordPress template even. Sure beats wasting time getting actual experience.
>apply to job
>go to interview
>"well we still have several more people to interview, but we should come to a decision in about two weeks."
>get email the next day "thank you for applying, but unfortunately we went with another candidate"
Projects, shit that shows what you know. Stuff you do because you love doing it. Created a game/app/website for shits and giggles? put it there. Obviously if you're not passionate about programming than this isn't your field.
In the tech industry no one gives a fuck about your education in paper, they wanna see what you can do, they don't give a fuck about degrees.
>have a successful interview where the team leader dude acted optimistic and approving of me
>don't hear anything back for a while, so decide to follow up
>call the company and speak with a random administrator who answered
>ask to speak to the HR chick I spoke to for setting up the interview, but got taken back to her because HR chick was busy
>ask her a few questions, then ask her if she could check on the status of the position for me
>she goes "tsch" and hangs up on me
Why are people in IT so rude, /g/?
>neighbor lady from hometown sees me last week and asks hows school
>tell her I graduated and now looking for work in IT
>says shes the vice prez of the financial dept. of a corporate insurance company and offers to take my resume to her IT dept.
>she also says they have a large office in japan
I want to get this job so bad so I can be an IT guy in japan. I heard IT is practically the only career in Japan that gaijin can work without wanting to sudoku because of work hours.
I need to learn Japanese so bad and move there.
>retain a lot of math and computer knowledge from NEET years
>walk into Navy recruiting office
>pass every test
>sign my job contract as a CTM
>practically free top secret security clearance
>chance to get 80k+ salary after Navy
the projects and assignments i have done aren't really spinnable, i think i would have to do my own mini projects. at least i could spin those into looking good as opposed to the shitty assignments i did
i was thinking of applying for jr sysadmin jobs though. i'm not sure if i have the mental energy for software development as a job. i just don't like the amount of "need experience" type of qualifications when i'm fairly certain i could learn how to do it in a week or less
Really easy. Basic high school subjects like science, math, and English. Some extras like electronic info, cars/auto, and general computers.
This is the academic portion called the ASVAB, there's also physical/medical reviews, potentially deep background checks.
85, I actually auto-qualified for Nuke.
My references were my closest friends, they said nobody called them. I think they only call them if they find something odd or they found an error in your information.
Put on a clean suit, ask to see the manager, give him a firm handshake and ask for a job.
I first walked in the recruiting office in like July, officially enlisted in November.
I have no idea about the military's agenda. When you go meet other people trying to enlist, you see a lot of them are REALLY dull. I met people scoring mostly 35-60.
But one thing I can you for sure that the CTN rate in the Navy is severely undermanned.
>90K in California
Depending on the area this is like 50K in other places (not NYC). So, not that spectacular for a "real" job really. I always laugh when I see CA or NY people talking about salaries. Enjoy your COL.
You pretty much have to lie these days to get past the HR retards. I've learned that the people that should be doing the hiring are too busy doing their job, and the HR people have masters degrees from the University of Phoenix and a list of words they're looking for on your resume. What an awful system.
>mfw I make 120k in Florida
>mfw second year from school and only bachelor's
>mfw work from home in FL for my company based in California
Enjoy your state income taxes California
I wish you luck, getting resident status takes forever, but if you just want to live there for a while, make some $$, and fuck asians, it can be done. Live the dream, not just for you, for all of us.
There is a difference between straight up lying on a resume and twisting words to present yourself in the best light
I work in a photo centre printing photos from phones, SD cards, CDs etc
We regularly have issues getting phones to connect properly and generally all it takes is reconnecting the device, resetting it or putting the phone in USB storage mode
On a resume I can spin that as
>Troubleshooting connectivity issues betwen iOS, Android, and Windows devices
The best way to get into a place is to seek out recruitment during college, submit hundreds(I mean this literally) of applications, or straight up say fuck HR and beg a real person for the job. You'll look like a fag, but you'll also look like dedicated smart fag to the people you matter.
I did this a while ago. Applied for a student assistent position in some company. Didn't get a reply after 1 week (even though they told me), so on tuesday the week after I called them
>Hi, I would like to know the status of my application
>My colleague is in charge of that and she's not here right now, we will message you, okay?
Got an email 2 hours later that they hired someone else.
>be dumb and gullible
>sign up for USMC(because muh hardcore)
>get 89 on asvab
>select infantry(reserve because early shipout)
>2 months into bootcamp "I have made a terrible decision"
>go to infantry school, get kicked out because still 17(long story)
>have 4 optional mos that my unit can take, all dog shit
>not actually fix anything
>get fucked with a lot because muh ADD/ possible autism.
>5 years later
>looking for job in the civilian world
>need experience to get experience
Regret everyday of it. High asvab was worth shit in the end.
The best thing is when you apply on LinkedIn and it'll show you the hiring managers. It's AMAZING even for some really savvy companies they have people with really no education in the field they're hiring in doing the hiring. When I say "HR people have masters degrees from the University of Phoenix" I see it all the time on LinkedIn. Some sort of business/HR shit from Phoenix/DeVry/etc. How do they expect these people to know what they're doing? That's how you end up with job postings that have "three years experience, entry-level."
>5 month internship
>full days, work that goes into production
I'm only a week into it and thinking of quitting it
Don't you get GI Bill? Or you didn't stay in long enough or something? That's retarded - if you're going to be in the military at least make sure you get the benefits. You could use the "mechanic" experience with any type of engineering degree. People really do love veterans usually when hiring.
I don't live in the US.
The worst part is hearing all these other people talking about their internships that paid them
Poor soul, it's a reason why people preach "Sign your rate, you sign your fate" or other variations of that. Glad I dodged every invisible bullet they tried to fire at me, SO FAR.
>career fair at my Uni today
>over 20 IT Companies were there
>was going to attend
>didn't because I needed to study calc, and I had a big fucking headache
what could've been...
I actually had a problem with that in the beginning but yeah I am getting GI Bill(reserve version) which is not much. As for mechanic experience, I worked with diesel engines vehicles, not your typical gasoline ones, which is where you would start from in the civilian world if you are looking into that career path. So actual civilian diesel mechanics have considerable experience and don't think the training I have had is worth for shit, especially since I had rarely used it. I am trying to do CS anyway.
I've found out through several family members that those requirements are not only bullshit, but don't matter worth shit.
One of my uncles was specifically given the job of going through applications, and the two other guys working there specifically chose applicants based off trivial bullshit. I've heard of people turned down because they said they liked soccer, and people interviewed because the employees felt lazy and picked applicants by rolling dice.
I have an Associate's Degree of Technical Support, an Associate's Degree of Computer Networking, and college certificates in fiber optics, PC repair, and networking technologies. I graduated with a 4.0.
I've been working in the IT field for two years. I manage Active Directory systems.
I make $10.55 an hour. I look for new jobs every week and have not found one that pays more.
Do not go into IT.
Every single help desk position I've been applying to are advertising 18-20 an hour or 30k-40k salaries.
Are you sure you're not just doing something wrong or live in a bad area for IT?
It must be the area. I'm near a major city and look on Craigslist, Glass Door, and Indeed weekly for new job postings. I cannot move out of the area because I take care of a sick family member.