>Steam Machines actually look well-spec'd and well-priced
>Vulkan gaphics API works surprisingly well with linux
https://www.khronos.org/vulkan ; http://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamos_sale/?snr=1_4_4__40_1
>Steam Controller actually looks pretty intuitive
>HTC Vive isn't the only HMD Valve intends to help put out
>Project Lighthouse is solving virtual reality's input problems
>"Our SteamVR APIs are free to use and come with everything you love about Steam, but they can also be leveraged without it. We call this alternate version of our APIs OpenVR. OpenVR includes all the same great capabilities, minus Steam."
What do you think about what Valve is doing, /g/?
Tell me op, how much does Steam pay you to shill here?
Niggas they're prebuilts; I'd buy one of these for a friend's living room and that's what they're marketing to. Of course none of you would buy them; I wouldn't even buy one for myself because we're not the people they're meant for.
Those prices are p. terrible for US markets
Also it doesn't even say the name of the components, for all we know they are putting 4790k cpus on H81 mobos
Nobody is actually paid anything to shill on /g/, that's the sad part, they do it for free
But this is basically ripping people off
>See one that is priced $699
>I wonder what it comes with
>1tb SPINNING hard drive.
$68 processor with a $250-$300 video card, what the fuck?
Could probably build a computer with similar specs for $450, although I would not get a $68 processor.
>Also it doesn't even say the name of the components, for all we know they are putting 4790k cpus on H81 mobos
Yeah, I didn't notice that. :/ I take back what I said.
>But this is basically ripping people off
Wouldn't say it's ripping people off; anyone who's going to buy one of the costlier iterations is surely going to do their research. Which at that point they'll probably end up assembling their own rig. I'm more interested in ZOTAC and GIGABYTE's tbh.
>Steam Machines actually look well-spec'd and well-priced
No they're not. Check the specs. i3 and 750ti for over 1000. i3 and low end nvidia mobile card for over 500.
>Steam Controller actually looks pretty intuitive
No it doesn't. No one wants to play with a touchpad on a controller.
So what.. it's just a wannabe console custom PC that's going to run a modified version of Debian? It sounds like a clusterfuck of shit. Console babbies aren't going to buy them. Enthusiasts aren't going to buy them, they'll want to make their own custom builds. And plus it looks like the market is highly saturated with a bunch of different chink builds. The hardware itself is going to fail. However, the software might have a chance.
>If you think the trackpads have the consistency of a laptop's trackpad or some shit then you're dead wrong.
I know it has a shitty trackpad instead of a stick, what else is there to know?
The trackpad is very flexible and can be set to emulate button presses.
It's touch sensitive so it knows where you hold your finger, and it can click down to submit input events. So you can split it into quarters and have each quarter send a different button press when the trackpad is clicked.
It literally looks exactly the same as the opengl es 3.0 demo
I understand it's only meant to be a simple demo but why even show it when it's obvious you can use vulkan for it too?
imo a mouse and keyboard isn't always the most comfortable but if you can get used to it, it's the most advantageous in a lot of games.
multiple machines of different specs? man, casuals are going to chew this shit out.
>buy the lowest priced one because it is priced similarly to competing consoles
>turns out it cannot play half the games the competitors can even at less quality graphics since all games aren't optimized to that one medium
>all games aren't optimized to that one medium
consoles this generation are literally x86 pcs and the new graphics api allows for more optimization
There's literally no problem here.
I don't understand the steam machine designs.
Why isn't there a 7850k + 290x + ram soldered to a single board and then covered with one vapour chamber or waterblock?
By putting everything on one board and only having a single varient you cut production costs over a traditional PC. Even if it's not upgradable you would end up with a ~$900 pc that beats everything in it's pricepoint.
>What do you think about what Valve is doing, /g/?
doesnt affect the games im playing, so i dont think much about it
might change my mind if i get a VR headset in future or whatever, but ill leave the current shit to the nerds
>remember anon, it allows more optimization, but that doesn't mean the devs will care enough to do it
game engine devs are lazy
but if these take off they'll literally have to start writing games that can preform well on the cheapest steamboxes :^)
>actually considering getting a VR headset
While some of the steam machines seem pretty promising I don't see the ones over a thousand selling well at all.
One of them says up to $5000. Who the fuck do they think is going to buy that?
> Steam machines
Well spec'd - yea.
Well priced - not really.
Also, I get the idea that just running your own Linux will be more fun.
> Linux & Khronos
Not like OpenGL or whatever was the problem - it mostly was just nvidia / ati's drivers.
> Steam controller
I can kinda dig the design to a good extent, but I worry about the manufacturing quality.
Not sure. Not sure at all. Probably shit.
Well yeah but who the fuck is going to buy a steam machine specced like this?
>ORIGIN OMEGA Steam Machine
>Price: $899 - $4,999+ USD
>CPU: Up to an Intel® Core™ i7 4770k
>GPU: Up to 3-WAY NVIDIA® Geforce® GTX 980
>Memory: Up to 32GB of 1866Mhz
>Storage: Up to 14TB
Not to mention everything but the GPU's is overkill for gaming. Although the starting at $899 bit might make it reasonable for a normal person, assuming you get something along the lines of an i5, 980, and 2tb drive.
Been contemplating how to set up a home theater with a projector.
in-home streaming seems brilliant for this; I can have a typical theater set up without coming up with some sort of desktop set up in the back of the room and I can spend time on the couch.
Granted I didn't put too much thought into how to use a mouse and keyboard on this regard but If I map out a intranet that wont be an issue.
>Intel Hd 5200
This is why steam machines will fail
>he thinks games are able to utilize multiple cores properly.
>implying a cooked g3258 isn't all you need
Microsoft will dump their last penny to stay relevant
sorry gabe but you better be ready to fight the long battle.
I've never had a theater set up of my own so that's understandable.
>Granted I didn't put too much thought into how to use a mouse and keyboard on this regard but If I map out a intranet that wont be an issue.
You could always get the Steam Controller, :^)
Yes but how do things run compared to their windows version?
Does all this steam universe thing really matter if you still get 20~30 less FPS, screen tearing and random glitches?
I hope for the best but we need to look at this realistically
Holy fuck, are people still trying to make this shit technology a thing?
Look, it's useless until we get fucking holodecks, so until we do, stop making shit technology and getting excited and paying a billion goddamn dollars for it.
It's far from useless; if people are capable of feeling presence in Oculus' first dev kit from two two years ago then the Vive will certainly up to the hype.
>Confirmed for being a fucking idiot.
Speak for yourself.
>Luddites hate all technology.
Actually, what you're referring to are primitivists; the luddites of the Industrial Revolution destroyed technology because their bosses weren't giving them enough pay. neoluddites are the progressives to the tech industry today; if you want a primer then read Chellis Glendinning's "Notes towards a Neo-Luddite manifesto."
>>Steam Machines actually look well-spec'd and well-priced
Unlike you kids, I've seen VR come and go and it's always shit. Doesn't matter that now it's "improved", it's still the same stopgap, dumb technology people are wasting their time on.
This shit is going to be the future because dumb people can't understand something so simple.
People that are working on VR are fully aware of the failures of the past. It isn't anything like the crap from the 80s and 90s. Abrash who started the project at Valve started working on VR only because he saw the technology has advanced enough to make it work.
My dad actually used one of the quarter of a million VR prototypes at a convention in 89. It was a joke compared to what we have now. Even he sees that.
So have you used one?
Your opinion is pretty worthless if you haven't.
Not like it matters- you're the type of person who's dead set on their opinion and won't change it for anything. Even if the best thing ever got released and you tried it- you would deny that it was any good just so it didn't clash with your worldview.
You have a closed mind my friend, and you're complaining about people that have minds so open their brains are falling out.
There's a middle ground and you're not in it.
Why are you so upset at new VR tech? Where you one of the people who bought the virtual boy?
The thing is, this isn't the same shit.
The old VR systems were bullshit. Heavy ass helmets, low FOV, extreme nausea-inducing latency, grossly bad resolution, etc. All of those problems are nearly solved (resolution and input are the only outliers now, where valve is handling input and resolution will be handled in a couple more years but it's good enough for gaming now).
I've tried both Disney's shitty VR at Disney Quest, and I've tried both the Oculus Rift DK1 and Crescent Bay. The difference between Disney's old VR and the current tech (including graphics rendering power) is absolutely night and day.
The more you talk the more it seems like you're saying a whole lot of nothing.
Everyone knows the first VR wave was shit because it WAS shit. Nintendo only launched the Virtual Boy as a means to ease everyone into buying the N64; they by no means thought it was going to sell at all.
Do you honestly think that today's VR HMDs are the same as they were back in the day? Do you think everyone's going to be antisocialites once this tech goes mainstream?
Are you a fucking idiot?
FUCK THE PREBUILTS
They're a waste of fucking money. Build a real PC and then just use the new Steam Link to do the exact same thing a prebuilt would do.
Except now you can have a smaller footprint next to your TV, and you can hide the fucking monstrosity your built in your basement/room.
Who are they meant for?
People who are too retarded to get a decent pc and who doesn't care about missing out on all the console exclusives?
Steam machines and Steam OS are shit and they deserve to fail miserably