What the fuck am I doing wrong? Is this not an at least decent resume for an intern?
I've given out 20+ of these and gotten a SINGLE fucking response.
>going to college
I get it. /g/ maymays. yeah. I seriously need to know what the fuck I'm doing wrong.
Never thought about that. Thanks bruh.
>Fall 2011 - Spring 2016
you dun goofed
>Minor in German Language
no one cares, hitler
>Familiar with Java and C++
if you're only "familiar" with two languages and experienced with none 3.5 years into a CS program, you fucked up somewhere
>Proficient with microshaft office
unless you're applying somewhere autistic, they are probably going to assume you can do normalfag shit like office
>microshaft visual studio
no one cares
have you developed a non-trivial program under windows? say UNIX instead of loonix(jewbuntu) (assuming you've built something non-trivial under UNIX, if not, you fucked up)
>Proficient in German
no one cares, hitler
no one cares
no one cares
Get some examples of your code up somewhere. Fix your shitty English.
Yeah, that ultimate frisbee is definitely worth having on there. Really sets you apart, I bet.
No, but I guess your rationale is that your potential employee should know you're not an autist? I think the part about studying abroad covers that. Autists rarely dare.
I wrote familiar because I'm not trying to overplay myself... I mean. I 'know' a lot of languages, but those two languages are the only two that I'm comfortable writing in a job situation.
Guess that's what I get for going to a shit tier university... the fucks at the resume help center said I should be writing like that.
Look here, you nigger. It's better than having half my page being plank.
I guess it also does that. Maybe? I don't fucking know.
Mention projects that required use of "relevant coursework". So you studied "Data Structures", great. Does that mean you've heard of some? You know how to properly use several? Can you write them from scratch yourself? Etc.
"Familiar with Java and C++" makes it sound like you understand the syntax (or some of it) but haven't done anything in it.
>Look here, you nigger. It's better than having half my page being plank.
It's not. You're supposed to slim it down to what's relevant. Frisbee isn't.
Also, you're the one asking for advice here.
reformat it, fix shit up, elborate more on what you've done. Keep it to 1 page. Setup a github account and add projects to it. Remember you are trying to sell yourself so you get hired
You see. That's literally the opposite of what's been told to me the entire time I've been in university. From the number of you saying that, you're probably not just yanking my chain.
Put your CS internship and only your internship. Nobody gives a shit about that warehouse job. If you're gonna keep it on there honestly you should put your CS internship before it.
Also, nobody cares if you can use Microsoft Office.
You're missing projects. Probably the most important part of the resume if you're applying for internships. Every company I have interviewed with has asked me about my projects. Put your Github link on there and write down some stuff you're proud of and make sure you can talk about them.
You want to use your projects to sell yourself
I'm 3 years into a CS program and I would feel comfortable using C, C#, Java and Python in a work environment, and would consider myself "familiar" with x86 assembly, mips assembly, scheme, prolog, html/css, mysql, bash, perl.
You're doing something very wrong, or your program is just shit.
So, when you say projects, do you mean like... my stupid ass school projects, or JUST what I've done on my own?
I've written a few things on my own, but nothing really worthy of being flaunted.
Extracurricular stuff is good, but it should be somehow relevant at a glance. Had you been the president of the computer club, that'd be better, obviously. You should also be able to talk about it at an interview in a way that's relevant to the position. E.g., "During my [activity] I learned the value of teamwork and bla blah leadership this and that.". You could probably spin your frisbee thing in that way, since bullshit spins easily anyway, but it doesn't really fufill criterion no.1 .
>You're doing something very wrong, or your program is just shit.
My program focuses a lot more on the math of computation and theory of computation a WHOLE lot more than we do programming.
The last time I did a programming projects was my sophomore year.
I've dabbled here and there with lisp, mysql, php/css/html5, etc, but not enough to really say that I /know/ them.
doesn't matter the program. If I only knew what my CS courses taught me I would know:
Instead I know:
>C++, Python, Ruby, C, JS, some Java, Bash, HTML/CSS, MIPS, some Freescale assembly I sorta remember
Most of these I've taught myself. Some stuff like the Freescale assmebly came up in an internship
It is not really clear what language you have worked with the most.
If you had to choose which language feels like you understand better?
I know you don't want to seem over confident in the languages but familiar is not a good term for your primary language.
Honestly dude, I own a small IT company, and have also done my fair share of work. I also am the general manager of a restaurant and do all the hiring and firing, etc.
You may have credentials or the ability to work at an internship of some sort...
>But that is a bad resume
You are prolly getting it tossed aside just on the template of the resume alone
You need to work on that resume, re word some shit, use better english, I can give you an example if you would like...
College is one big english test, it doesn't matter what major you go into, except maybe some math (no personal exp), but it's all about an english test.
>wording of crazy ass questions on exams
>typing papers and essays
you can talk straight BS as long as its formatted and sounds like your smart
>teachers wording things wrong and you having to argue with them about the actual english meaning of the question
English/Grammar over errything
In college at least
But you need to work on ur resume...
I'll reiterate some point while adding my own.
Non-CS job is irrelevant. In college I had 2 resumes: 1 professional, and 1 to get blue collar jobs while in school. Never shall the two meet, so remove.
The others are unnecessarily 4-chan rude, but frisbee is irrelevant. Remove.
Knowing German is useful. Knowing a secondary language makes you more marketable. Keep.
Remove Office. You know why.
Gihub is everything. If you don't have any extra projects you've worked on, place school projects you're proud of. Mind you, I'm not saying cookie cutter school projects that every CS student has done, I'm talking about a unique spin you took on something academic. If you don't have that, you need to get to work.
Typically, recruiters know what skill level most CS students are at when they're leaving college. There are some exceptions, but for the most part, "proficient" coming from a recent student holds less weight than it does coming from an industry pro. Let them find out you suck during the interview. You just need to focus on getting that far.
Hope i helped.
>teachers wording things wrong and you having to argue with them about the actual english meaning of the question
story of my college career. foreign professors really should let english speaking professors review their tests first...
I lied like a motherfucker to get my first interview, said I was an expert android developer.
Looked up dozens of "100 questions you'll be asked at an android interview" and aced it.
Learned android my first day there.
The funny fucking thing is. My resume was a lot fucking different before. I took it to the resume workshop and they tore me a new asshole.
Telling me I didn't need to write such long sentences and shit, and people didn't want to read an essay. I didn't even have fucking much on there to begin with. Still under a page.
In addition to that, I've taken the following courses which were mostly/all theory:
-Discrete Math & Formal Logic
-Two semesters of data structures
-Computer Organization (how UNIX werks)
-Programming Tools (how the hardware werks + some assembly)
-Automata & Formal Languages
-Fundamentals of Software Engineering
-Programming Language Design
-Introduction to Database Systems (database theory, one small programming project over the semester)
-Math out the ass
>apply for firmware position
I think I'm fairly proficient in this field, but still...
>Only technical question of interview:
>"You understand pointers and shit, yeah?"
rest of interview just why I want the job and then stuff I would be working on. Got the job btw
Java and c++ on a resume aren't strong. If anything try to explain some of the stuff you've done with it ie worked on basic GUIs, written server client programs (you mentioned that in the database part which is good). Knowledge of tcp/ip stack etc. What year are you?
Under a page is good
> sometimes (SOMEtimes) a cover page is acceptable
>Your format/style is bad, those bold black text headings
Ill help u with a resume for real bro, or at least give u some input
I namefagged cuz I've been here for 5+ years, and Ill really help you if u want
I've made a few changes, see if this version helps.
(But seriously OP, the market is tough, sorry it's this difficult)
Essentially I'm just REALLY fucking bad at selling myself. I don't want to overplay my abilities as a programmer, and I'm probably selling myself short.
I've got ONE shitty app on the android marketplace, and only school projects/a three month internship other than that.
How the fucking hell do I sell myself when there's nothing to fucking sell, and if I have nothing to sell, what could I be doing in terms of projects?
I kek'd man. Thanks. I needed that after the ass ravaging I got from /g/... which is why I didn't post it on leddit or anything. I wanted you guys to be fucking real.
This is the most helpful /g/ has ever been. Th.. thanks guys.
>Is this not an at least decent resume for an intern?
Is any of that relevant to where you're applying to? (Yes, you rewrite for *each* place, even if it is just tweaking.)
You're selling you to them. Put in the best pitch you can.
What i recommend for projects is to start small and manageable. Work using something you could potentially use in a workplace (popular IDE/programming language).
For instance, mobile apps are easy to test (use your own device), have relatively short production cycles (if you do it right), and are easy to talk up during an interview(just show em).
Again, you're a student. You're not expected make something to pass the Turing test, so making small, useful things is enough.
No, it's not very good, even for an undergrad.
I don't understand why your education is taking up ~10 lines. This should be done in 3 or fewer. A single line with <Major/Degree - Institution - Location - expected graduation> would suffice. Resumes are flexible, but you want to get the information in the face of whoever is reviewing yours. Cut the relevant coursework section, I don't even know what the fuck that is. If you're studying for bachelor of CS from a half-decent school, most competent recruiters will just assume you know that shit. German minor doesn't matter til you have it.
Most recent experience goes first, but really, I would just cut the warehouse part, too. Not relevant to CS internships and "work directly with senior management of foods and retail" isn't gonna mean jack shit. Leave the internship, and rewrite the description to mean something. Right now it's just a steaming pile of generic. You worked directly with the senior software team? Oh, what did you do? Fetch their coffee? Be specific, otherwise you're just another paper. What was the app for? For whom was it being built? What kind of algorithms did you write? What technology or logic did you use to write them? Keep this brief, still <5 bullets per job.
"Relevant computer skills". You already have the section labeled "Skills", that's redundant. Make a couple sections, like "Proficiency", "Familiarity", "Tools", "Platforms", and whatever you need. Categorize your shit. Also, do you seriously only know two languages after 3 years? And only to the point of 'familiarity'? If this is really the case, you either need to rethink your career choice or sit down with a babby's first python book so you can add more skills. I think you need to allot more time than the 15 minutes you gave when you had to write this piece of shit in one of your freshman seminars. You don't need to specify ubuntu, just put Linux (Debian-based). Resumes are about making yourself look good, even if it means future learning to back-up claims. If you understand unix, you can at least navigate most distros. Don't need to specify 'microsoft windows'. Don't have an 'other' section, give it a name. And your German is either not listed at all, conversational, or fluent - not 'Proficient'. I'm assuming at least conversational since you studied abroad, so put that.
Now, we're gonna add more sections. Projects. Achievements. Leadership.
If you have a github, list it. If you don't, make one, upload some of your most representative code, and list it.
Achievements are self explanatory. These can be academic, but don't list trivial things like "Hurr I got a certificate for attending a Visual Studio seminar in the basement of the CS building on a Saturday with a bunch of other unwashed fucks". Dean's list. Rankings. Awards. Leave anything high school out unless it actually holds weight outside of organizations with the word 'High school' in them.
Leadership in clubs, at your internship, if you were a TA, consistently manage group projects (if you're desperate for something)...etc
Ultimate shitbee. Take it off. Nice to share with other frisbee enthusiasts, but nobody gives a fuck. If you have whitespace at the end that you need to fill, add an interests sections and for the love of god put more than just frisbee. Bitch.
Here's an example resume from some overachieving jackass that's actually styled pretty well.
Dude what I've been trying to say...
>With English skills
Like I said, college and shit is one big english test no matter what ur program or major...
>You need a better, no bold black, stylized but conservative, revised resume
Thanks man. I guess I need to start writing these little ideas I get from time to time. At least start exploring them.
I wrote the whole god damn thing. From start to finish. If I had been there for another two months, that shit would have been ready to fucking ship. What's the best way to summarize that?
noted. Seriously, thanks dude.
Will do breh.
Drop microsoft office and the warehouse job
Even if the warehouse thing were relevant, your bullet points are super vague. "taking initiative"? "able to work unsupervised"? how about something more specific? what value did you provide to the warehouse? How did you make things measurably better?
"Linux (Ubuntu Distribution)" -> "Ubuntu Linux"
don't pad your resume. people can tell and they will take it less seriously.
Drop ultimate. They don't care about that kind of extracurricular. Keep the German.
"Familiar" is too weak. I'm "familiar" with Java, but the only Java I ever wrote was for a job interview. Just list the languages, or use a stronger word to show that you know them like the back of your hand. Then be able to demonstrate it live in an interview (people will call you on it).
It's hard to get a job with a resume this bare. Mine was like yours through junior year or so. Back then I got my jobs through other students. Do your homework with study groups (4-10 peeps) and don't just be a leecher, be good enough to provide value so they'll actively want to work with you. Tutor other students. work on open source. show other students your cool electronics projects. Get a reputation.
source: had a crappy resume for a while, then worked for NASA and Boeing. if I could do it so can you.
>source: had a crappy resume for a while, then worked for NASA and Boeing. if I could do it so can you.
That's actually really reassuring. Hopefully the resume I sent out will work on a few shit tier companies where I live and I can squeeze a little work experience out of them this summer.
Was wondering if someone could give me some advice. I don't have any internships or any actual job experience (since I'm IT none of that is required to graduate), but I have a bunch of personal programming projects I've done. Should I list these instead?
Though on the bright side, compared to probably 98% of the others in my IT program I enjoy programming and am (I hope) decent at it.
Well, guess I'll have to turn down the recruiter from Google then.
I already put them on Github and mirror them with gogs. I'll most definitely put them on my resume too. Is there a preferred format? Maybe list what technologies each uses?
Guess I'll go shoot myself, then work fast food after it turns out the .22 doesn't kill me because there's no way I'm doing help desk shit.
Why do you list university AND work under education, should be split into anothe category "work experience".
And your warehouse job was a part time next to your studies, right? Just mention it with one sentence, that should be enough.
>Helper in warehouse, May 2012 to August 2013
>I've given out 20+ of these and gotten a SINGLE fucking response.
Maybe your cover letter sucks, I don't know.
Let me present my track record. I've been working for 4years and have never failed to be called for an interview when I apply for a position. All 13 of them.
> On unrelated experience
Lose it. I've worked as security guard for almost a year before, but I didn't state it in my resume. Unless they specifically ask about the gap, I wouldn't bother.
> On extracurricular
Lose it. Nobody care. Unless you're joining large corporation which have their own sport team. Common mistakes by fresh graduate. Unless you're president of certain association or won Olympic, don't bother.
> Speak their language
In short, put yourself in recruiter shoes. They got lots of resume for every job opening, so make their job easier. Tailor your resume to match the job requirement. When they said they want "NIX Terminal experience", you put "NIX Terminal", don't put shell or Bash etc.
> Follow up and be ready
The common problem that I encounter when doing phone interview with candidate is they're clueless about my company. Either that or they sound sleepy/high at 11AM.
one piece of advise i was given by a recruiter was to detail my projects or work experience in the sar format.
you want to show potential employers how you handled a situation and if you can make money for them.
Your resume reads like an amateur. You're a computer science major means you should start showing off your portfolio. What does that mean? What have you done that shows your work helped the organization. Efficiencies, tangibles, etc.
And your resume should never look the same for any two jobs. It needs to be tailored to that specific job.
You wouldn't send a programmer resume to a tech position. Nor write about your administrative duties for a programmer job.
Elaborate on what you did and learn to write a better resume.
You know what is the #1 skill as a programmer? Communication.
I don't think you necessarily 'need' a cover letter. But it goes a long way in telling whoever is looking at your materials that you give the slightest fuck about the position and didn't just spam pdfs across the entire internet in hopes of a job.
If you're well qualified, then no, probably don't 'need' one.
"You must be able to fit your resume on one page, people are busy and don't have enough time to read two pages, it will get ignored"
That's one of those retarded things you hear from people who have no idea what they are talking about.
Reduce to 1 page as you have a ton of useless spacing. Nobody cares if you can drive. Link your github instead of talking about open source contributions. Nobody cares what you are interested in. Don't list your fucking primary school on your resume. Most recent work and education goes at the top. Your honorary work section is bullshit, list what you actually did.
Should be either one full page or two full pages. Page and a half gives a bad impression.
Stuff you have only rudimentary or basic knowledge of are not worth mentioning. Either get better at them or drop them. If you're good enough at them to not drop them, then don't call it basic.
microcontrollers is one word.
be consistent in your date format (11/2011 vs 01/12)
"occasional contributor to other open source projects"? come on, you can provide more detail than that. Don't mark it as miscellaneous either, call it extracurricular.
Is it really so unusual to have a drivers license in Europe that you have to mention it?
Not sure what a cover letter is, but make sure when you mail these to have a short paragraph about "i'm applying blah blah blah" with perhaps something why you are applying at this particular company, what interests you, why do you want to work with them. That goes a long way. It like on dating sites, you need to include something from their profile when you write girls.
And what if you've got a wealth of experience that cannot be summarised in one page? If you can't take the time to read an extra page then why the fuck have not got a recruitment department?
No reputable manager/recruiter has ever disregarded a resume/cv because it's two pages. Fuck, you're trying to sell yourself, why cut yourself short because some PC retard told you.
Thanks this thread now makes me revolt in disgust at resumes, you fucking plebs
This is why you need 2 years for entry level positions to weed out millennial trash.
All these people who treated college like being a NEET not doing shit. Christ. You should have a ton of stuff on github because you should love what you do
CV or hit the road
And no I'm not a boomer I'm 25.
intern in sf valley here, i'm just going to jot down some glaring points on your resume that doesn't read right
1. you seem to only have generic technologies listed (some of which aren't in vogue)
2. companies typically look for a github or linkedin account with related projects
3. you list fucking microsoft office and IDEs for software experience
>given out 20+
you should be giving out 150+ since you clearly have no software experience
you are in your 3rd/4th year of university (computer science), why haven't you made any compilers or open source contribution or web stacks or arduino coffee maker or ANYTHING?
All you have that is relevant is some vaguely worded android front end project (you don't even go into specifics about the methodology or stack so I'm suspicious that you've even done this
>B-b-but mine is not horse shit, right? Because every recruiter is a robot that has the same opinion.
Give me a 5 page resume any day, I'd rather spend an extra 2 minutes reading a 5 page resume/cv than spend 30 minutes at an interview to find out you're not suitable.
You're trying to convince them to get you in for an interview, why limit yourself to 100 words?
Okay you faggots... does this look ANY better?
All of that? All completely fair to say.
>you don't even go into specifics about the methodology or stack so I'm suspicious that you've even done this
That's over the line. Fuck off.
And an important part of any job is being able to follow directions.
Congratulations, you have the time and attention span to read a five-page resume. Guess what, most recruiters don't. If they asked for a brief explanation of why you're a good choice for job and you turn in a detailed chronicle of your life it's going straight in the trash.
I write the job description.
I read the resumes.
I interview the candidates.
I decide who gets hired.
You're wrong and retarded. Extra pages are only bad if its trite filler bullshit. You're just intellectually slow and read like shit, or you're hiring worthless jobs for worthless people.
It's a rule of thumb (meaning something you integrate with common sense, not something that overrides it), and one that's valid for new workers.
Too many job applicants pad their resumes with bullshit, and too many HR managers have so little patience with that shit that if they get to the midpoint of the first page and all they've seen is fluff they'll just assume the rest is fluff too.
You're not filling space with your resume the way you fill space in an English essay in college. Be judicious, even brutally lean, with your resume.
>just got a BSc in CS
>have 0 finished project fit for showing off, just a bunch of small things I started working on and then abandoned
Welp, guess I'm fucked.
At least I still have 2 years MSc ahead of me before I'm entering the job market.
>Word for resume
IN THE TRASH IT GOES.
Plus you probably studied at a shit university. Cause over here companies are lining up, more like fighting to reel us in with free food and drinks, to get us to work for them.
Put the exchange under education, you have little to stand out otherwise.
Put more under skills, you claimed you know about Linux in the OP and that you did a lot of maths, where are the scripting languages and latex? This shit does matter, especially if you can crank out some tex macros for your github.
Try to get at least a student assistant job before you graduate. Also it is not clear why you claim excellent knowledge of C++ if you mention no projects with it. Extensive is a very harsh term, I hope you have more than coursework and that little internship to back this up.
>most recruiters don't.
You're retarded, enjoy staying neet
>detailed chronicle of your life
I'm sure your bleak existence could be summed up in five pages, however consider there are people who've been in numerous complex roles that all have valuable transferable experience that cannot be summed up in 10 words or less.
There's lots of people who will be qualified that apply to you vacancy, you need to differentiate yourself, your cv/resume is the first and potentially only point of contact. A generic, one page resume that gets sent out everywhere is far more likely to be thrown in the trash that a personalised in-depth two page one.
> I can't get a job
>better give up on life and be a failure
>I couldn't possibly try to improve my skills so I would be more desirable on the job market
>no no no
you make me sick, take some control over your existence sonny
At my university that is top 30 in CS.
But seriously if you don't have companies lining up for you if you're going to finish CS your university is doing something wrong. All CS majors are in very high demand...
>What's wrong with this? Word is the standard
It's the standard for plebs indeed.
And I would never want to work for any of those companies. If they can't read my pdf that is beautifully typeset in LaTeX they are not even worth applying.
?assuming you are op
any SE that reads that would be mega suspicious. If this is the main work experience you have that related to professional work you need to sell it better. Talk about what the app is about, vaguely if you have some restrictive NDA.
You should at least be able to talk about how the code is structured (did you read over the activities? how did you change the front end? what are the different things you did to debug and test the xml?)
given that your courses haven't taught you about code control, you should teach yourself basic SVN or git.
also, learn python. you'll thank yourself down the line.
There are two issues your view exposes. The first is the (wrong) notion that people care about your life. They don't. I mean your mom probably does, but that's it.
The second issue is that people in a position to hire you are interested in the most current summary of your ability to do the job in question. You have many skills and anecdotes in your life, but if you're being evaluated for a Software Engineer job, they just want to know if you have the breadth and depth of knowledge within the scope of the languages and paradigms the company uses. Crucially, they don't care about the process of learning those skills, but the result.
>Familiar with various web development frameworks, including Django, Flask, Meteor, and RoR
Again, if they read to the halfway point of the first page and nothing has made it clear that you're qualified and worth reading till the end, they're just going to throw you onto the "maybe" pile. They have dozens of applicants who can answer their question ("are you qualified") with the same "yes" that you're giving, but succinctly and directly.
Yes, there's an NDA. Not up for another two years, so I can't exactly talk about details.
I don't know how to condense "I LITERALLY FUCKING DID EVERYTHING" into a resume.
I designed the GUI, wrote the logic to interpret data received from our home servers, wrote the algorithms to send readable data from the device to our servers, designed the GUI, and everything inbetween. Everything that app did was of my own doing.
LaTeX is amazing. Once you start using it you will see exactly why people recommend it. The templates for LaTeX are a million times better than the templates for word.
No real reason for a company not to accept PDF files. Any computer can open them these days.
>not really, outside America CS majors are pretty fucked
All statistics I see are begging for more CS majors. And again they are lining up to get us at my uni. Idk why you think it's different outside of murricuntica. Is it a) because you failed to get a CS degree? or is it b) because you went to a shitty university?
>Only academics and GNU/NEETs care about latex and neither are hiring you
Fucking look at OP's resume. If I would get it would be in the trash instantly. And i'm shit tier at making things look beautiful. But my ass can make something better with LaTeX.
I haven't explained it well the last three times? Ask me different fucking questions. If you keep asking me the same thing, I'm going to keep saying the same fucking thing. every. single. time.
>It's the standard for plebs indeed.
Nobody uses it outside of basement dwelling freetards who like spending four times as long making the same thing as they could in word all because they hate microsoft.
Nah, that's just wrong.
Especially to the people who never heard of LaTeX, a LaTeX document looks impressive.
And you do know LaTeX doesn't force you to use Computer Modern or something as font, right?
And to be clear, I'm not advocating a generic resume. I'm just advocating succinctness. If you have 2 pages of dense material, then by all means let your resume be 2 pages, but most people on /g/ have too little work experience to justify that. Filling your resume to 2 pages just to be unique will get you thrown out. People see hundreds of resumes a day and they start to get good at reading between the lines, so if you throw in a weakly related job, or your bullet point is just some bullshit fluff, or something like that, they *WILL* read it for the weakness that it is. You don't want that.
If you have very little work experience, a ~1 page resume VERY directed at the job listing in question (nailing every question this specific resume reader will have) will get you the interview.
>I designed the GUI, wrote the logic to interpret data received from our home servers, wrote the algorithms to send readable data from the device to our servers, designed the GUI, and everything inbetween. Everything that app did was of my own doing.
Big fucking woop. You want a fucking award for it? Your just another shitty android dev.
Do you even know the Gang of Four?
Can you properly -design- software?
Are you literally aiming to be a code monkey? Cause that what's i'm hearing.
You are part of the reason CS is being set equal to "huehuehuehue java code monkey". It probably is at your uni though...
Like he said, it's all about the university. From a top university, any STEM graduate with 3.3+ GPA or so shouldn't have a problem getting some kind of decent job. Grads outside of that criteria (and there are a lot of those) that chance falls off rather quickly.
put that on your resume, knowing SVN means you know perforce, which is what big corporates use
also, I don't think listing off technologies you used for the app is considered to be a breach of your NDA (I'd read the papers again). If it is, you can always store your experience with xyz libraries in an education or hobbies section
if worst comes to worst you can apply to some entry QA jobs or join a 3-6 month dev bootcamp to get your foot it the door
gl with the jobsearch
It's not about what I believe. It's about what I see happening: Companies begging for us, CS being top 3 highest paying starting wages in my country, 100k+ jobs in the ICT sector, etc.
Seriously If you think they job market for CS majors of a half decent uni is shit you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
>Might be true but I'm not a yuro gommunist
Clearly because you know nothing about anything.
It's probably because of this:
Keep the people dumb and they will obey. :^)
"What is the NSA still mass spying on us even after it was exposed? Surely not!"
Linkedin is your friend.
Start a technical blog on the business you want to work in.
Get your details into a recruitment agency. They can give you credibility, too.
>So 40k after tax?
It's an estimated amount of jobs (number is 2 years old irc), not a wage.
But yes I'm very glad we have such an amazing healthcare system and top tier universities for our precious taxes. Surely our government can use this money even more efficient but that's true for nearly all governments.
Remove nationaility and birthday/birthplace. EU law requires that these aren't included to prevent discrimination. Squash that whole section of personal/contact info onto 2 or 3 lines.
Replace 'very good' with 'excellent'
Remove driving license class. Unless it's anything other than the standard type of license, you shouldn't have to specify it
I don't mind birthday and place.
I have mashed it down to 1 page, admittedly there was a lot of bullshit. Made some spacing smaller and added Github link, but it looks a bit out of place.
This thread isn't bitching, it's trying to find a solution. You're the one that was bitching about your pathetic life, insisting that you're hopeless and that this place is just for wallowing your worthless life away.
Maybe this isn't the shithole you need. Go find a dive bar and drink yourself to death.
>Remove driving license class
Like I said above, some people care. We literally can't hire anyone without a car because we are > 1hr from public transport and we send people to meet clients.
Lots of juniors with reasonable CV's have gone in the trash because they show up on a bike.
Are you serious? Why are you jumping into a thread, not making it clear that you're someone else, and taking up their flag until it's no longer convenient for you?
Fucking kill yourself, retard.
>Waah why can't I shitpost as I please
>F-f-fucking k-kill yourself
What did your parents do to deserve you? Just kill yourself. Free them.
It's easy anon, do some good for your parents. You know it's the right choice.
>You will never be a retard begging for life advice on 4chan of all places
>writes like a ten year old
Step it up you worthless faggot that will never amount to anything
easily the shittiest resume i've ever seen
nigga can't fluff shit at all
A single page. My last application letter was around 170 words.
Well that's a step forward.
Hopefully you can finally work up the courage to finally kill yourself and do the people around you some good for once.
Meanwhile you just keep shitposting lashing at others to try and forget what a worthless little shit you are.
then it's fine to require that someone can drive (or throw out candidates who can't drive), isn't it?
If the job doesn't call for something, your resume shouldn't mention it. Nobody cares if you play the oboe. You're applying for a software engineering job, not for a seat on the philharmonic.
It's more like something you can bring up during an interview for the inevitable 'what do you do outside of work' question. Good to have an answer that's not completely autistic and can make you look semi-cultured.
> I've given out 20+ of these and gotten a SINGLE fucking response.
You didn't put any contact information on there, that's why.
Anyway I don't really know what a resume is supposed to be like since in my country we use CVs instead which have turned into some nightmare of bullshitting and selling yourself. But the advice I could give is, first of all, improve the formatting appearance. There's a lot of white space there and the titles on the left don't look good, so it doesn't really support your claim to being good with MS Office. Your university bit looks fine but maybe have some grades in there and put the University of Stuttgart bit in with it. Have the CS internship above the non-cs job. Improve the non-cs job bit, the english isn't that good (eg "work directlv" should be "worked directly"). Since it's not a cs job the best thing you can do with it is emphasise what other skills you have developed that would be useful. The "taking initiative..." line is vague, maybe give a better example of what you did. Instead of "Must be able to work unsupervised" try "Trusted to work independently" or something.
Relevant computer skills: If you can, give some examples of what you've done. You said you're proficient with Netbeans and eclipse so that would surely mean you're more than 'familiar' with Java? Familiar doesn't inspire a lot of confidence, put "Competent/Capable in use of Java, having done X"
The ultimate frisbee bit isn't doing any harm, but seems a bit out of place on its own. It's good to talk about extracurricular stuff so they know you're not a drone, is there anything more you can add other than ultimate frisbee? Or any achievements you've made relating to it or other activities?
It's not worth taking space on your resume. People don't infer that you're a robot from your resume. Just show up and be friendly in the interview. Let your ability to play oboe, your interest in photography, etc... come up in real conversation.
Learn to embellish and be descriptive. Don't include hobbies that are nothing to do with what you're studying/applying for. Why would you tell them you like frisbee? Is it to demonstrate you're a team player? Then allude to it (pro-tip: use the word team). If not, then take it out.
"I have had a longstanding interest in emerging technologies both software and hardware, which is what influenced my decision to study Computer Science.
I also enjoy playing team sports, especially frisbee."
Also, write in sentences.
The typography of your resume looks disgusting for one. I'd put the relevant internships ahead of the previous work in this case considering your previous work isnt related. Makes the reader waste less time. Github and projects is a good idea to show your work.
Having it written on the resume, which they'll have before them, may prompt the conversation. If it's not there and they don't ask about anything that leads you to talk about it then you miss a chance to show them what sort of person you are outside of work. It's not a big deal as they'll already know enough but I don't think it hurts to have it there when it might be helpful.
I just realized that phone numbers should be in the international standard format. Especially in this day and age where you could be sending CVs across the world...
Similarly, postal addresses should have country. For example, there's Cambridge, USA and Cambridge, UK... Well you could infer from the Zip/Postal code but it's less hassle to just include it.
He's almost completely right..
Drop ANYTHING not related to the job you're applying for, so like working in a magazine in a convience store is unrelated and can be removed.
List your related experiences,
X years of C++. (maybe a few sub things)
-Worked with C Make, Make and used different compilers like MSVC and G++
x years working with Visual Studio
x years working with netbeans
I use both Netbeans and Visual studio almost daily for different projects
Have a lot of knowledge about computer hardware
Have a good understanding on how software works on Linux/Windows/Whatever. (When you have your interview, try mentioning things like the software protection rings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_ring) It'll make you seem smart and very knowledgeable and other things like this (Probably more programming related though)
Things like this are relevant and what the interviewer will want to see/hear about.
We actually check every detail mentioned in a CV for accuracy. We are for grades. We call all references and spend at least 15 minutes with them. Yes, even for students. This is post 9/11 fellas.
Not everybody has a job either
To get a job you have to lie, it's how it works. Employers expect you to lie, too.
So when you put the truth, they think "jesus christ how bad does this person really have to be for THIS to be the lies?"
Add also any soft skills and abilities. Especially working with a team and put some examples on how you dealt with complex situations. Personally, I would like to see that on a CV.
Pretty much this.
Also, the poor english makes me think more of an Indian code monkey than an actual talented developer.
Also, if OP goes to pleb school, he shouldn't expect google to call him.
>put some examples on how you dealt with complex situations
That does not really belong on a resume. They would ask you that in the interview
>How does a typical day look like for you?
>Let's say ... happens, how would you ... ?
Make your schooling look like it only took 4 years ago to don't have to feel like you're defending yourself if they ask about it. I took an extra semester to finish and wrote 2010-2014 without any months and no one knows/cares it was 4.5 years.
Just say 2012 - 2016 and say you took time out before starting to figure or what you wanted to do or some shit.
Well if you claim you excel when working in teams, you might want to give an example. But you're right, as long as you can substantiate that claim in an eventual interview is also good.
I'm part of a group at work that reviews resumés and interviews software engineers for my team. Here are my thoughts.
1. Most places aren't looking for interns. They want full time developers. Even after you graduate, you'll probably struggle because they would prefer experienced candidates. The fact that you haven't graduated yet disqualifies you right away from many places.
2. Remove the "relevant coursework" section. If you say you're a computer science student, you don't need to mention courses that are a part of every CS curriculum in existence. It's redundant.
3. Don't say "on the Android OS". That sounds like my parents who say "The Google". Just say "for Android".
4. "Wrote algorithms to ensure efficient communication between the application and employer databases". What does that even mean? Anytime someone talks about "writing algorithms" and gives no details, I immediately suspect they know jack shit and are just trying to reuse a word they learned in CS101. What did you actually do with this, OP? Did you use SQL? Did you use an ORM? Was it local or did you use REST or SOAP?
5. "Familiar with Java and C++". How? You give no examples. If I see a resumé that lists a bunch of technologies, but it's never mentioned what they used them for, their resumé goes into the trash immediately. The one exception was a guy I interviewed about 2 weeks ago. I wanted to trash his resumé because he did exactly that, but the manager above me really wanted me to speak to him. I did, and just as I suspected, he didn't know anything. It was literally the worst interview I ever conducted. The guy bombed and HARD.
6. "Microsoft Office". Are you a secretary or a developer? This shit is basically assumed. You might as well say you are proficient in browsing the web and using email. Listing IDEs isn't too bad, but the fact that you don't list any useful tools like git, svn, findbugs, Sonar, testing frameworks, or anything that requires real knowledge is a red flag to me.
>5. "Familiar with Java and C++". How? You give no examples.
There's only so much space on a 1 page resume, in your opinion is it enough to mention some stuff on the cover letter and/or include Github? Because you can't list stuff for every language you know on there, and even just mentioning (lesser known) projects by their name won't do a lot I imagine.
First of all, use better words.
> this is now your title
Get rid of the giant black blocks, they look bad.
Do you have a personal statement written down? A quick why you want to work there and what your working skills are.
Use written instead of wrote....
Familiar with Java and C++ is bad, use proficient. Selling yourself is important, never make your self look bad on a CV.
The line studied for on year abroad... is not needed.
But the overall issue is the presentation of the document, look at over CV's online and follow there style.
Places ARE looking for interns as they're basically unpaid help, A lot of software/game companies ask for interns, not only for free work but also to educate upcoming developers and for networking purposes
depens where. in germany they have to pay you if it's longer than 3 months. but most companies just pay you anyways (as long as it's not some school stuff where you are not helping anyways). in scandinavia it's also common practice to pay.
Here's what a sexy resume with no real substance looks like (first semester into my program)
well then fucking tell me why people in this country think getting a job contract is a heavens blessing. most people work on order agreements that do not have to follow minimum wage laws and give you around 0 benefits.
People keep laughing at this but I would always have it in a list of software packages / suites as "MS Office" because despite what these NEETs say most office enviroments are dominated by excel and word, so there is no harm in giving it a mention, just not a whole bullet point.
It's just assumed you can use word and office proficiently.
Just like you don't put down that you use QWERTY and type over 90 wpm, or that you speak and write fluent English. These things are presumed.
If you know VBA though, that's when I'd put it down.
Saying that you're "familiar" with all the languages you list is more than just pushing it.
I know the course in question where you get to experience scheme, prolog and some other obscure non-imperative languages. It's mostly just interpreting some code examples and a tiny bit of programming in prolog and scheme barely more advanced than fizzbuzz.
I also know the general contents of your "assembly" course and can tell you that it's mostly explaining some basics without actually writing any code. The basic database course with mysql is also VERY basic in it's contents.
So I hope that the people you interview with don't actually know the contents of your curriculum properly or actually test you by having you do something practical in the languages you say you're "familiar" with.
Of all things that are wrong with many of the CVs here this is not one of them. It is two words and while it is debatable whether or not it is necessary it certainly isn't harmful.
Also, I've learned the hard way to make no assumptions when it comes to entry level CVs.
>mfw CS graduates can program for shit
With hindsight, that assumption was bad. The only assumption I make now is that assumptions are bad.
>people use a font size bigger than 10 on their CVs/resunes
>complain about not enough space
A résumé is a brief CV and should only be one page. Recent graduates starting their careers should rarely use CV, rather a résumé.
This is true >>46911111
This guy knows nothing >>46908038
A résumé for an entry level job typically gets something like 20s of attention. If you haven't impressed in that time it goes straight into le bin.
No I didn't.
Move your cs job above the other job. Add an "Applied Projects" section, detailing small projects you have done whether for school or otherwise, that you are proud of and could show off in an interview. If you don't have a project like that, go make one.
>Expected graduation date of Spring 2016
yeah, no one is gonna offer you a real job until you finish your studies (unless you're better than everyone else applying)
>Minor in German Language
unless you're applying to a German company its pretty much useless
Most likely everyone applying has that too
gotta be more specific on what you did also
>Wrote algorithms to ensure efficient communication
You might want to explain why you didn't use what was already available and decided to write your own shit
>Familiar with Java and C++
makes me doubt you wrote those algorithms you talked about before
Can you do more stuff than a humanities student on word/excel? if you cant dont call yourself proficient on it
>VS, Netbeans, Eclipse
What exactly can you do with them to call yourself proficient?
get some experience on CentOS and debian
Résumés are strictly one page or MAYBE a bit longer if you are 10+ years into your career. A CV should be as brief as possible while containing all relevent information. A résumé should only contain the most relevant information keeping it to usually one page.
In some positions you will be asked for both and the résumé will decide whether or not the CV is read.
Well I've been a professor at various places as well as stand in professor in other countries. Also made some publications and collaborations in other publications. Also given assessment for several tribunals and other government projects. Basically things regarding programming and CS are among the last in my CV.
yeah i've been steadily employed for 4 years now and don't see myself changing jobs so it doesn't matter, i wouldn't do it anyway
that being said if i saw it on a resume for a candidate here i'd think highly of it because it is a very useful thing to have