>>46954124 >TITAN Z is faster than 295X2 with latest drivers It's not a driver thing, it's worse due to the lower clocks and GK 110 generally scaling worse in multi GPU setups. Almost every benchmark shows the 295 X2 winning over the Z.
>AMD pretty much lost money on that expensive 500W HOUSEFIRE junk buy selling it at $600 with expensive water cooler
lel on that grammar/spelling, even my english is better than this shit.
Also we don't know if they lost money. And the BOM for the AiO watercooling is not lower than the one for the Zs cooler. In fact it is only slightly more expensive than a normal titan reference cooler.
>>46953807 If anything this proves the opposite the leaked benchmarks show the 390x to be around 40% to 50% more powerful than a 980 with whatever basic drivers. This isn't suprising as the 290x trades blows with the 980 the 390x will have nearly 50% more processors as a 290x. It also will have far higher bandwidth which will increase fps just as having higher MHz RAM will significantly improve performance in a APU. It is also going to be water cooled. The stock and overclocking ceiling for a stock waterclocked GPU is going to be amazing. Also because it uses HBM it will consume less power as GDDR5.
So to sum it up the 390x will decimate the new Titan and the 395x2 will obliterate it.
>>46954353 Lol someones buthurt. You enjoy your shitty 3.5GB 970 I will enjoy my 390x Crossfire or 395x2 build. Depends on how long it takes until good 4k monitors with quantum dot tech, 21:9, Freesync, HDR and curved for a future eyefinity build and also because it looks nicer for a monitor.
>>46954609 Nvidia was going to use HMC; which didn't worked out and so they had to wait longer to use HBM They're so retarded they lost to AMD >>46954660 It actually gets less performance than the 700 295X2 And it's a year old
Thinking about getting a 980, but the 390x is supposed to be out 'soon'. Should I wait or will a 980 be good enough for the next couple of years?
I haven't had a nvidia card since the GT 210 and then upgraded to a 6950, which was a great card. I got a 280x last year as a replacement but it isn't that great of a card and AMD support is pretty terrible. I also do a bunch of 3D work and I hear that Nvidia cards are much better for it, but I have no idea.
>>46954621 ye. im really excited for doing that for myself. i've been wanting triple monitors or a 21:9 but the cost of 3 really nice monitors(144hz ips or something similar) or a 21:9(there arent any high refresh ones yet) just doesnt make sense. now 1 300$ device giving me infinite choices of monitors in high refresh oled is worth the wait
there are software advances like the new API's that will help but the 300 series is a majoe step forward in performance not just the 390X bu all the 300 series cards are being rebuilt on the new 1.3 architecture
if you have to buy a card today i recommend either the 285, 290 or 290X on the AMD side and i recommend absolutely nothing on the Nvidia side otherwise wait for the 300 series which will be some time over the summer/fall
>>46955058 4GB should be sufficient, I have a bit more than 3 GB with RealVision and heavy mods. I don't think my VRAM is too small, the 980 is too slow for 4K, it drops to 40 on 2K resolution. >>46955117 I consider a 2nd 980 in late 2015 or 2016, not before I have a VR device. Otherwise I'll wait for the 1080.
>>46955012 Yeah I wish I could get a 21:9 OLED 144Hz or better curved 4k HDR Freesync thin bezel monitor. Problem with the Oculus is the resolution might be 4k as the Note 5 will have a 4k display so they will likely use that display. But it won't truly be 4k it will be the same image shown on both halves.
the biggest performance bottleneck in both nvidia and AMD cards has been the GDDR5 memory standard
AMD tried to alleviate it by increasing the memory bus
Nvidia tried to alleviate it by upping the memory clock speeds
We really have no idea how dramatically the HBM memory is going to upgrade performance over GDDR5 in the first generation it might not be all that much but over time the increase in bandwidth will allow for an entirely new category of enthusiast level GPU's
the 390X is going to support a 4000-bit memory bus
now imagine four 390X's in crossfire running on an API like DX12 or Mantle/Vulcan
now running games on an 8K OLEC TV doesn't seem so crazy does it?
>>46955168 true, but it would be made up slightly by the fact that pixels for the points you're looking at would be slightly offset the the warping. I forget which company was doing it but they placed 2 1080p panels over each other, slightly offset, to get some really nice pixel densities without expensive, slow hd+ panels. it was a neat concept kinda imo
Imagine a AMD free market, Intel and Nvidia would have 30% more R&D money to use, producing better chips. The government wouldn't be on their backs anymore to artificially limit their performance and potential because AMD is shit at making chips. Intel and Nviida would also roll out low-level APIs for all their products and everyone WOULD have to use them, everyone would get enormous performance advantages. No incompatibility or market fragmentation anymore, one standard to rule them all, develoeprs can target less variations of hardware(a lot less, as AMD made a lot of worthless junk to fragment the market) and we can have OS X optimizations on Windows.
It's a fucking win-win for everyone, it needs to happen.
>>46955497 They didn't HAVE to release anything new, since the 290x was fast enough. If they were Nvidia, they would've already released the 3xx line, as rebrands of the 2xx line clocked 10% better and with a less shitty stock cooler.
>>46954578 >>46954638 AMD is not producing GPUs, or anything, on TSMC's 16nm FinFET process. AMD has dropped TSMC as a fab. Their CPUs and GPUs will all be fabbed at GloFo or Samsung on their collaborative 14nm FinFET process which completely embarrasses TSMC's transitional FinFET node.
78nm CPP vs 90nm CPP, its no comparison. GloFo/Samsung have a 15% lead in area scaling, they're ahead in yields, and they'll dominate when it comes to electrostatic characteristics. They already have a 14nm FinFET part in mass production, and it'll soon be followed by others. They have all of 2015 and into 2016 to ramp up yields for larger dies. GloFo is the only fab qualified to package HBM, and they're starting to test interposer memory on 14nm chips now. TSMC hasn't done either of those. They have no experience with interposers. They have an inferior process, and they're late delivering it. Nvidia's Pascal will be delayed. AMD will have their 14nm FinFET GPUs on the market before Pascal launches.
>>46954685 >this dipshit again You're an absolute shit eating moron. The JEDEC specification is irrelevant. Hynix is producing the modules. They make a clear distinction in their product based on their current production capacity. HBM1 is limited to 1GB per module. I schooled your tech illiterate ass on all of this before. You're not going to get away with being a fucking retard without being called out on it.
>>46955479 It's to bad not all games will support the Oculus Rift or could not be moded it use it. I shed a tear of joy towards playing fallout elder scrolls and witchergames with everything on ultra and 4k mods. And a tear of sorrow because I will never play Bioshock on it because they lock down moding.
>>46955497 >implying hbm 2 will have acceptable yeilds less than a year after hbm 1 is ironed out >implying they didnt release 2 new lower end cards since the 290x >>46955505 >implying they wouldnt further jew their customers for low end and over priced underperforming high end chips >implying sammysung or someone wouldnt stick their dick into the desktop market
>>46955532 This. I'm a recent convert to AMD and I finally see all the bs behind Nvidia. Intel is also shit but I won't buy a AMD CPU until it beats the top end i7s just because I always want to buy the best.
>>46955595 You're the retard, nothing stops them from pushing slice density expect yields, and they are not the only manufactureres of HBM any longer. Larger slices will come, and they will probably come before hynix ships something they label as "HBM 2". If they ever do that.
>>46955602 you can already play games that dont support oculus using tridef or vireio/vorpx, have you not seen people playing skyrim and other shit? its not perfect and you still have to use a controller to shoot, but you can use an omni to walk and it translates the gyro sensors to mouse input. i think they're working on the 3d tracking part.
and as for games that dont work in that way, like I already explained you can run games on a virtual monitor, it doesnt have to be in first person rift mode.
watch this video and skip to 17:20 to see what i mean. he's only play the walking dead but it works with other games, and this is also a BETA version of the software so expect better on release with oculus cv1
>>46955602 Oh and playing those games on a omni treadmill or a equivalent. I'm going to look like a fucking Olympic sprinter with the amount of hours I spend on Fallout and Elder Scrolls games. Some people might say I would just get tired and bored of it but I can walk for 7 miles sometimes when I can be bothered to when I walk the dogs without feeling tired or sore and I play paintball as my main hobby with high end professional gear and holy shit can I sprint, no one ever out-distances me at the starting whistle, ever.
I imagine sweating might be a concern when I go paintballing you have to dab the inside of the mask after every 2 10 minute games to get rid of sweat and condensation but a good portion of that is just from breathing. Which shouldn't be a issue with this because it doesn't cover the mouth.
One thing I would look forward to is fps lobbies where you can only play with a treadmill, VR headset, and a gun controller. That would make things more interesting.
>>46955712 >I can't make a real argument, just like last time I got my tech illiterate retarded shit shoved in >I'm going to pretend to know better than the fab actually producing the modules
Hynix is the exclusive producer of HBM right now. That was the deal that they made with AMD, they get to be the sole provider of memory for so many wafers. They don't have a node online working with TSV bumps small enough to be building modules with higher density DRAM dies. Its as simple as that. The R9 390X is going to ship with 4 1GB HMB modules on package.
There is a reason why Hynix made that distinction, and that wasn't a marketing slide. It was from a technical presentation given at HotChips, you tech illiterate retarded baby. The generations are based on their production ability and capacity, they are not mass production second generation higher density modules.
>>46955784 >I'm going to pretend to know better than the fab actually producing the modules No, i don't pretend that. But i don't take a vague marketing statement by the word. You shouldn't either.
>Hynix is the exclusive producer of HBM right now.
Probably. Depends on how far samsung is
>That was the deal that they made with AMD, they get to be the sole provider of memory for so many wafers.
Huh? It's a JEDEC standard, everyone could produce it.
>They don't have a node online working with TSV bumps small enough to be building modules with higher density DRAM dies.
Source on that? That's all you'd need to change my mind.
>There is a reason why Hynix made that distinction, and that wasn't a marketing slide. It was from a technical presentation given at HotChips
That's basically the same thing. Ever read some of nvidias newer whitepapers? Also mostly marketing bullshit.
>The generations are based on their production ability and capacity, they are not mass production second generation higher density modules.
Sure. But achieving some of the things they want for their HBM 2 is not correlated. If they get the smaller bumps to work with high enough yields before they are capable to stack more than 4 slices there is nothing holding them back just increasing slice density.
>>46955834 Well the amount isn't specified. It's just they mention they have $19 billion set aside for these kind of investments. It's still great for AMD. I think AMD have been doing very well recently every new bit of news about them is great news and the 3.5GB thing converted some Nvidiots like I was.
>>46955917 >“We are confident that as we get into the second half of 2015 with the launch of that [new graphics] product, we will gain back the market share which is low from my standpoint and historically,” said Devinder Kumar, chief financial officer of AMD. “We need to be significantly higher than where we are right now.”
>>46955904 No need to be a asshole. I'm saying playing it like the virtual desktop setup should lower the amount of pixels used because it has the screen hovering in the middle with a lot of useless black bordering it. I'm talking about games that can't or shouldn't be run on the Oculus normally like in his example the walking dead game or Bioshock games which I assume can't be modded to use it as I said they lock that down.
>>46956078 Everything I'm stating comes from Hynix themselves, you tech illiterate retard. Thats why I have command of facts, and your posts are filled with nothing but
>I think >its possible >maybe >listen to my bullshit guesswork
Matter of factly Hynix separates HBM into generations, something that you inaccurately claimed was false. Hynix themselves explicitly state it, and outlined the differences between the generations. You're talking out of your ass, and the shit you're saying is defeated by simple facts straight from the horses mouth.
>>46956094 anon pls. this video >>46956075 explains what i mean. also, it works with bioshock and many other games. im just trying to help you. i've been trying to explain it for days but you havent understood what im trying to tell you and its frustrating. I just want to shill good tech to people, its my calling.
>>46956131 >Everything I'm stating comes from Hynix themselves, you tech illiterate retard.
From one fucking marketing slide.
My posts are what i would call educated guesses. And guessing is the best we have at the moment because there is no official information. You're doing nothing else as far as i can tell, but i'm not selling my guesses as facts.
>Matter of factly Hynix separates HBM into generations, something that you inaccurately claimed was false.
I claimend that there are no HBM generations. Which is correct. What hynix does with their HBM products is something else.
>Hynix themselves explicitly state it, and outlined the differences between the generations
And still nothing forces them to follow that plan strictly.
>>46956275 Its not one "marketing slide" its not even from one slide. The JEDEC specification is fucking irrelevant, you would understand this if you weren't a tech illiterate retard. There are no generations of DDR3 going by the JEDEC specification, yet manufacturers can label them however they want. There is no specification for 3D stacked DDR3, and yet it exists. Generations of HBM exist as Hynix define them, because it is their product. It is Hynix HBM Generation 1, and Hynix HBM Generation 2. When Samsung starts mass production they're free to call it HBM Generation 9999, They could call it HBM X. It doesn't matter, companies can label their products how ever they want. It has nothing to do with the JEDEC specification.
Jesus Christ, you're literally a functional retard.
/g/ only believes what Nvidia tells them to believe. In fact the only place i've seen that is worse for gobbling down whatever Nvidia squirts out is OCN (jesus that place makes /g/ seem clam and rational at times).
Regardless, there is an advantage of the titan x getting close to a 295x2 as you don't have to deal with crossfire/sli which are not perfect even now.
All that matters is if the 390x can repeat its younger siblings efforts and slay a titan.
As someone who came from two 6870s to a single 970, which I bought AFTER 3.5 because I was THAT fucking sick of Crossfire (unplayable Alien: Isolation with CF on) and AMD drivers in general(Eyefinity detection in some games breaking if you also use CF), you're full of shit. Faggot.
>>46956187 OK I just looked up Bioshock Oculus Rift and found out it is true Yay.PNG that said some games like the walking dead or top down strategy games should still have a fairly low pixel count because of the black border. Can't watch that video right now I will later.
As I said I'm buying the Oculus or better VR headset even if I get a monitor it's not a this or that thing for me.
>>46956231 No, they're doing quite good with the R9 290X trading blows with the 980 while being a year older and quite cheaper They're doing even better with Mantle becoming the foundation to Vulkan and DX12 And even better with the 390X having HBM and quite improved everything while Nvidia has nothing like that until Pascal
It's just that AMD delayed it's new line up since there's not enough reason to release it, specially after the memory allocation fiasco
>>46956543 >hurrrrrrr The specification is nothing but a broad guideline. You are conflating a specification with an actual product, again the exact same issue you had last time. Hynix Generation 1 HBM only comes in densities up to 1GB. Hynix Generation 2 HBM comes in higher densities. HBM1 and HBM2 describe final products that Hynix sells and supplies to other manufacturers.
These are facts. Get it through your subhuman pile of shit brain.
>>46956665 Still no generarions for HBM overall. As I said, what hynix calla their products doesn't matter, nor does it make hynox generations a technological necessity you have to follow no matter what happens. This is just getting semantic, you know what I mean, I know what you mean.
>>46956590 That and they are perfecting it. HBM is new tech as is likely a few other things they incorporate into it so getting it right is a necessity. If they fucked up and the 390x was faulty they would lose their chance at dealing a massive blow to Nvidia.
>>46956727 >look at me continually prove how much of a dumb fuckup I am There are generations of HBM. The specification is irrelevant. It was always irrelevant. You brought it up because you're too much of a tech illiterate retard to know the difference. See:>>46954685
This is you being a retard trying to correct someone else, despite the fact that you were completely in the wrong, and I know that you're exactly the type of attention whore idiot to continue doing it in the future no matter how many times you're corrected. You honest to god deserve to die for being so fucking stupid.
>>46956696 >Doesn't work in windowed mode >Ever >Can't play Alien: Isolation because the minigames aren't rendered >Just having it turned on somehow breaks eyefinity detection in Far Cry 3, Guild Wars 2, probably others >Literally, going windowed mode won't fix it (enjoy your 5 FPS by the way) >But turning CF off in CCC will fix it for whatever stupid fucking reason
Yeah, I'm basically never going back to AMD.
>>46956742 Crossfire means you can't progress. The hacking minigame computers just show a black screen. And good luck running 5760x1080 without crossfire. That bug was still documented as of early Feb when my 970 got here.
Also, Amazon Prime video, HBO GO, and Netflix all ran like shit for me despite hardware acceleration turned off (the DRM maybe?). As in reduced my whole system to 3 FPS for 30 seconds to a minute. Disappeared when I switched to Nvidia ;^)
>>46956799 How hard is it to understand that there are no fucking generations for the HBM memory standard specified by JEDEC?
I would stop writing what I wrote here or in the last thread if someone actually corrected me. All you do is claiming shit without giving sources, arguing about a semantic problem and calling me a faggot. If you didn't notice, that's not how you convince others of your standpoint.
>>46956809 Well, one problem in one game isn't really making CF worse than SLI. On the technical side its better than SLI now and generally shows that in games. You'll have some hiccups with multi GPU systems from both manufacturers.
>>46956842 Well they could have just said sorry it's new tech that's why we haven't released it yet.
Some issues could be long term, I don't believe for a second 3.5GB was a accident but that is a good example of a fault that takes a while until it's noticed. It's also as I said not just about bug fixing but improving it.
>>46956886 >How hard is it to understand that there are no fucking generations for the HBM memory standard specified by JEDEC?
That does not matter. It never matted. When people reference HBM1 and HBM2 they are talking specifically about the parts produced by Hynix. Hynix is the only company mass producing and supplying HBM modules right now. That is why AMD partnered with them specifically instead of contracting out to another memory producer like Micron or Samsung, or all of them. Hynix has limited exclusivity for production. HBM1 and HBM2 are their products. Get this through your fucking head. Bringing up the JEDEC specification is entirely irrelevant, you're just being a pathetic autist trying to correct someone when you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Learn to shut the fuck up when you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>46956941 3.5 wasn't an accident, it's designed like that Nvidia already knew it happened, but due to their recent obscurity on their products no one thought about it AMD is going to have even better HBM by their next gen, not too long after Pascal if Nvidia doesn't fuck up
>>46956842 >>46956941 Also, June was just a rumor that people have clung onto. For all we know, the 390x may be ready and announced next week at CeBIT. We already know that new 'freesync' drivers are coming on the 19th with more in April. That is huge for AMD who never release drivers.
>>46956973 No they won't need it Titan X doesn't compete with anything It has literally no market, it's worse than other products in every front The only people that will get it are hardcore fanboys, and they don't care about performance
>>46956996 Yeah I know, as I said I didn't believe for a second it was a accident.
Fucking pricks lost me as a customer I was planing to go 970 SLI before I realised it would be best to wait for better monitors. Then 3.5 happened and as I previously said I'm now waiting for the 390x or 395x2 and good monitors or the Oculus Rift or other VR alternatives. I would prefer to have the monitor at the start but if a VR platform comes out that I want then I might just get that and wait for the monitor.
>>46956996 AMD will have their next generation of cards out before Pascal is ready to launch. Nvidia has to wait on TSMC's sub par FinFET node ramping, which isn't going to happen any time soon. We're pushing on Q2 2015 and TSMC doesn't have any real designs in risk production, only test chips. They're not magically going to start producing 300mm2~ dies come next year and get double digit yields.
Samsung already has 14nm FinFET chips on the market, they have customers lined up. Apple and Qualcomm will have their next SoCs fabbed there. Volume is the key to refining a process and improving yields for larger dies, and they're not lacking in volume.
>>46957285 That and dx12 being a modified version of Mantel Andrew Freesync. Also that company that plan to invest billions into AMD, Zen which will switch from 32nm to 14nm probably before Intel, also on the CPU side of things Mantel and by extension dx12 where made to finally fully utilize AMD CPU's.
>>46957319 > Incompetitive nvidia is just as bad as incompetitive AMD. Not even remotely. AMD regaining market share, bringing more revenue, and pumping it into R&D would be better for the entire industry. Not to mention the fact that AMD religiously supports open standards while Nvidia just pushes their proprietary bullshit.
Nvidia is just as bad as intel when it comes to ethics in business.
>>46957319 No it isn't. Nvidia are Cunts but this won't kill them, they will bounce back eventually and hopefully realize they can't get away with their shit anymore.
Who can't wait for the moment Normies realise that Radeon is better when the 300 series comes out and Nvidia can launch no response for a long time. We might get it where Nvidia realises that they can't just rely on their retard fans sprouting incorrect memes anymore to sell overpriced underpowered shit.
>>46957354 Yeah, a single thread with barely 2 pages, where most of the people who suffer the issue don't have Crossfire and there's someone with a Nvidia GPU with the same issue It's a game issue, not drivers/GPU http://forums.alienisolation.com/forum/support/game-issues/non-story-arc-issues/21566-bug-with-rewire-points/page2
>>46957455 >hopefully realize they can't get away with their shit anymore They won't, they learned the Intel ways This is not the first time, you have to go back to the FX 5800 to see how much they can get away with thanks to marketing and fanboys
>>46957453 >>46957455 >PhysX is vendor locked for no reason. A hack used to exist that enabled it on ATI GPUs, but Nvidia disabled it >It was discovered that PhysX relies on terribly inefficient X87 code, Nvidia refused to port it to anything else so you'd be inclined to buy a high end GPU to use it, since it used to even chug on their GPUs >after years of refusing they finally released it for CPUs >still wouldn't port it to something other than X87 >disabled a bunch of features that still only run on their GPUs >The Nvidia sponsored Batman Arkham game disabled AA on all AMD GPUs so Nvidia cards would look better in side by side screenshots in reviews >they did this on a few other sponsored games as well >they have a long history of doing this >GameWorks titles all run terribly for no reason, this bullshit that was released in response to Mantle just intentionally cripples game performance to make their own cards look better
Nvidia is just a fucking terrible bunch of jews.
>>46957471 They're not "stuck" they're simply not producing any more FX CPUs of the Bulldozer family. They haven't even ordered any more 32nm wafers for a long time now. Vishera and Richland were the last parts produced on the node.
>>46957512 They are, allegedly. Doesn't change the fact that they're shitting out tons of 14nm parts now.
>>46957530 > Which is probably on the sane level as Samsung's 14nm FF node... Anandtech shill plz go.
Intel's 14nm node has a 70nm CPP, Samsung's 14nm node is 78nm. All this "hurr it isn't really 14nm" is damage control from fanboys, it isn't factual. If you want to go that route you can look up the specifics of intel's 22nm Trigate node and see that they're using creating a 26nm gate, and density really isn't all that impressive.
>>46957584 Yeah, of course it's dead. But consider the thread we're in. We don't care about beema, Mullins, kaverie, carrizo, we want a new performance CPU. And the jump from the last 4 module FX chip to a 14nm FF zen CPu is going to be massive...
>>46957630 All of the Zen desktop chips are going to be APUs. Thats where the mainstream market is going, desktop Broadwell and Skylake both have Iris Pro graphics on the high end. AMD isn't going to sell a mainstream desktop chip that lacks an IGP.
>>46957605 >Nvidia is just a fucking terrible bunch of jews.
A necessary evil in a free market. AMD without competition wouldn't be better. They are not a charity.
>They're not "stuck" they're simply not producing any more FX CPUs of the Bulldozer family. They haven't even ordered any more 32nm wafers for a long time now. Vishera and Richland were the last parts produced on the node.
>>46957711 >AMD without competition wouldn't be better False paradigm. One company being unethical does not mean that a different company would be just as unethical in their place. There is appeal in being an ethical company, it builds reputation for your brand, and reputable brands have high consumer confidence. That is one of the few things AMD has going for them since they lack a real marketing department. Asserting that they would drop all that and start being massive jews given the chance is completely fallacious.
> I don't see your problem with what I wrote. The problem is that its entirely disinfo. You just tried to frame it as if Samsung's bleeding edge process was only equal to a node intel introduced in 2012. Samsung's 14nm FinFET node has tremendous advantages over intel's 22nm Trigate. You really don't see an issue? You'd have to be blind.
>>46957833 >>46957872 Just imagine the immersion from playing a game where your just walking along the beach and you can smell the sea and feel the water spray on your face, or the same with any other environmental like jungles factories etcetera. If you set something on fire it smells like something is burning and if you run you can feel the wind on your face.
>>46957873 >>46957918 >Of course they would be massive cunts No, again this is a false paradigm. Your argument relies entirely on an incredibly weak fallacy.
>Do you think AMD sells the Hawaii (or previously Tahiti) cards cheaper for fun now or what? This has literally nothing to do with your hypothetical. Pricing structures would work the same way no matter which company was leading in market share.
>From what I remember it is pretty close to their 22nm node... Lets look at some key metrics CPP : Intel's 22nm Trigate is 90nm intel's 14nm Trigate is 70nm Samsung's 14nm FinFET is 78nm
Metal pitch intel's 22nm Trigate is 80nm intels 14nm Trigate is 52 for their mobile line, 60nm for normal power chips Samsung's 14nm FinFET is 64nm
SRAM cell area Intel's 22nm Trigate is .1080um2 intel's 14nm Trigate is .588um2 Samsung's 14nm FinFET is .645um2
Oh wow, would you look at that? Samsung's 14nm has massive advantages over intel's 22nm Trigate in both scaling and electrostatics. You need to fuck off with your disinfo shilling.
>>46957987 >feel the water spray on your face, or the same with any other environmental like jungles factories etcetera Does this mean I can simulate being a cuck and actually take a virtual facial from my waifu's lover?
>>46958088 They sell it cheaper because they have to. Without competition prices would stay up until they finally decide to give us something new. This isn't communism, they arent working for the people.
Seems like I was wrong about these node characteristics. Thanks for correcting that...
>>46958137 the exact same place within about 1fps. the 960 in almost any situation cant render something that takes more than 2gb of at a decent frame rate. save maybe modded games with really hi rez textures(skyrim memory may may)
>>46958097 >>46958169 Probably not unless your Waifu sprays cum as a mist. Still would add some immersion.
I give it 2 years max before we have a mask like this with sex smells that can also spew a stream of liquid at a person. Next will come Fleshlight alternatives that can heat themselves, vibrate, massage, move up and down itself, deploy lubricant from a reservoir, or be fixed to a static object like the Fleshlight shower mounts. Other more complicated alternatives like one stimulating a blowjob will be next.
>>46958312 Nothing you posted had to do with disapproving of monopolies. You were just slandering AMD while simultaneously spreading disinfo about Samsung's fab processes, trying to glorify intel's. You were shilling, and it was extremely transparent. Now you got completely called out and you're trying to back pedal.
>>46957987 Or imagine having the mist, smell Andrew hot air spray at you in a moment like in the pic. Although Aliens might be cold blooded I'm not sure if they are or if the body is just very efficient at keeping in warmth and not letting any release.
>>46958439 >AMD would be so unethical >they'd be such cunts >Samsungs 14nm is only the same as intel's 22nm You stated these outright lies repeatedly, shill. All the back pedaling in the world isn't going to change this. Cornered shills end up doing nothing but shitposting out of butthurt.
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