>>>/gd/201780 (with work of /g/ and /gd/)
- Logo: optimized PNG // FIXME: license issues
- Chat: dropped, new one at github
- Forking Gentoo: dropped
>watching this thread
>dont want to disappear too
haha dudes, you're never gonna do it, just let go, you people lack competence, experience, and will power.
An army of engineers and scientists worked for years to make to create OS's like OS X and Windows, and they didn't even finish yet, yes they are stable, but there is still work to do. What do you think, you unorganised, incompetents peasants gonna go further than creating a logo. HA!
This. Arch is literally perfect the way it is. So is Gentoo. Really there is no reason to even make an operating system forked off another because nothing those projects ever do is innovative and just come out as prericed garbage.
Guys. GUYS! Check the git!
People are working!
Have a redhead!
Here's some ideas:
>Arch Linux based
>libre linux kernel (?)
>ncurses-style installation script. (just fork aui script)
>nice set of default software (music player, text editor, etc). each one to be decided by strawpoll)
>custom config files for above software straight out of the box, like crunchbang (maybe best ones from desktop threads?)
tl;dr arch based w/ linux-libre kernel & pre-riced default software
That's the plan. We're forgoing the ncurses installer, that'll be used later. Right now we're working on getting a LiveUSB out which will have prericed stuff and an installer included. If you wanna contribute, just join the chatroom.
Nothing to contribute, but remember to have design guidelines for a uniform experience. Google has material, Apple has whatever they have and Microsoft has their poor excuse for minimalism.
I have no idea what to do for the font. I don't do much typography.
Original creator of picture related reporting in.
Because it's trendy: License: CC0 1.0!
I don't mind it based off of Arch or Debian, but ricers are the newfaggots of this board, and are definitely a loud minority, so I don't think the OS should cater to them. Why not instead of starting it with bloat, improve the building process? That is where the "arch is perfect" line comes from, it is so easy to build from, even though you start from scratch, which is why I don't see the point. Nobody wants another ArchBang
I'm not the guy you are replying to, but if you want a more interesting idea, you could base it off something different. Maybe Alpine Linux? It's Linux without GNU and uses busybox and could make a nice 'minimal' distro.
If you ask me, Arch is the place where Ex-Ubuntufags hang around and yell BLOAT.
Debianfags dont care and enjoy maximum compatibility plus non-breaking rolls.
Also debian isnt outdated, that's a meme. Stuff is simply only released when it's stable (so it doesnt break, nice, isnt it?). And dont forget that the internet is FULL of ubuntu help websites with shit that works also with debian (ubuntu is based of debian).
BUT theres a big thing: The AUR. lo/g/os should have access to the AUR, because this is the place where IT happens. So if you use debian, make a wrapper to get AUR packages into debian.
PPA is a shit and insecure.
Enough talking. Im fucking drunk!
Anyways: I LOVE you guys at git for stating to work. Just imagine all the faces of the antisocial faggots who hang out on /g/ and wait till someone has an idea so they can destroy it.
Who is your god now, fags?!
PS: I think we should DEFINLY make a poll vote for the WM. i3 seems kool for the desktop thread kids, but this is something which is done with a shell script and wmctrl or python in less than 40 lines. Choose a sane and slick Desktop: Use OpenBox.
Im done. Thanks for listening, and have a drink on me. *jörk
Make a linux distro that can run adobe software? don't know if that's even possible, but as a designer I'd be be interested in switching to linux if i could use the full adobe suite on it.
>Also debian isnt outdated, that's a meme.
Lol it was vulnerable to a serious exploit a few weeks ago because it's glibc package was 3 years outdated
>plus non-breaking rolls.
Arch doesn't break anywhere near as often as people make it out to be. That's just a meme that comes from user error. Most people who use Arch and update frequently will tell you they haven't had anything break in months(if at all).
You forgot your "My face when" by the way, the text suits you perfectly.
Personally I would try a large sum of distros, record what I liked about each, mark off what I disliked, and then put it all together. Also I don't know the benefits too much, but I would investigate the possibility of basing the OS off *BSD since there are potential performance benefits. I think all compatibility focus should be put into networking, on the CD. I would want it to print out which modules it detects on boot, so that you would know what you need to install when you chroot into your partition before you reboot. And figure out how to make the terminals history go further back for fucks sake, makes working in shell a pain in the ass with only what, 200 lines of history? Before a package goes onto the system, you should ask yourself "can the system be installed without it?" and "are there smaller alternatives?". I also think that compiling everything from source is perfect, especially if modeled after something as user friendly as *BSD portage, or Gentoo's emerge. Why? Mainly because it would be more compatible between different architectures and would have a much smaller hosting footprint (source is MUCH smaller than binaries) so even poorfags could host packages. If you go with compiling from source, you should also consider whether rolling release or periodical releases are more favorable (i myself favor the latter for compiled sources). Just a few ideas.
gtb ur drunk
arch doesn't satisfy half of that.
here is a tl;dr of what i wrote
>based off bsd
>compile everything from source
>periodical package releases
though that isn't all i would expect because that is pretty much exactly what gentoo or freebsd is. like is said, try out a bunch of distros and hand pick what you like about each. it would take awhile but quality doesn't happen overnight
>>compile everything from source
nigga, there are people living on this earth who like le gnu but also want to get out and have a live isntead of compiling
statement > trash &>/dev/null
How will hosting be accomplished, how will porting be accomplished, how is compiling a detriment, etc. I don't think you even know about Ctrl Alt F*, its call multitasking. And if you want to talk about going outside and getting a life, which do you think would allow you to even do that when you aren't even fucking required to sit at your computer during a compile.
>inb4 wut if it fails!
It will be cached, so that when you come back, you can install what you needed, and then just install the compiled binary you already compiled. Easy peasy, you need to give it a try and think logically before you give it shit.
1. default drive encryption
2. option to get into Tails mode whenever you need
3. filesystem structure like in GoboLinux
4. have a real desktop environment, not that autist i3 haxxor shit
5. have a software center because installing shit from terminal is for retards
6. rolling release
>4. have a real desktop environment, not that autist i3 haxxor shit
I happen to be both autistic and to use i3.
While I agree, to some extent, with your point, I think that we can try. Now I just want to prove you wrong all the more (keep up the insults!)
>have a software center because installing shit from terminal is for retards
>have a software center
>terminal is for
if we have someone to continuously keep a thread going just like /sqt/ and /dpt/ it might actually pick up steam
i realize it was started as a metajoke but i think /g/ would be able to make a simple fork and throw some rice on top
i hope im not overestimating you guys though
Yes. That would strongly be their problem, not ours.
We should try to keep it going like that indeed.
I hope you are not overestimating us, either. It will be funny to have an OS that was started as a joke (I'll make the logo!).
We shall prevail! Soon all ye mortals shall shudder before the name,
Someone should really be saving the logos from these threads so that we can have a default wallpapers folder packaged with the install for people to use as their desktop background. It would be adding a piece of nostalgia while also adding another piece of customization.
put logo in the middle, text right in the bottom of it.
>lo/g/os is a Unix-like system for all and none.
I would prefer
>lo/g/os is a gnu/linux distribution
and I don't have a better idea for the :
>for all and none.
but I'm sure their is something better.
That's nice. I just hope he made a correct statement since he didn't leave any proof or email.
Now I'm only concerned of all the stuff in releng folder in the Git repo, such as Arch logos. How does the MIT license even work for this project? Is it just a wrapper for Arch installer with packages pre-installed?
I don't like the decision to use Arch at all, something like OpenBSD may have been a better choice. But /g/ doesn't know of anything else than Arch vs Gentoo circlejerk...
I hope so too. We need to check up on that.
Justify your last comment and we will be more prone to considering it. Merely stating that you do not like something is a good way to irk people and get nothing done.
>looking into the MIT license
>Justify your last comment
1. pacman not having version control. It's prone to break often.
2. systemd. About a week ago I experienced a major issue with Tor not starting up on Debian jessie due to systemd. dnscrypt-proxy in sid will also add /etc/init.d/dnscrypt-proxy, but it's actually a dummy that doesn't do anything. The real dnscrypt-proxy config is in /etc/default/dnscrypt-proxy, which is not immediately obvious. Then there's also two different places to actually change the command line startup for that script, /etc/systemd/system/multi-user-wants.target/dnscrypt-proxy and some /lib/systemd/system/dnscrypt-proxy too. It was not a fun experience at all spending three hours to fix a trivial issue that could have been fixed in minutes on sysvinit or even OpenBSD's rc. The latter is even simpler.
3. OpenBSD is fairly up-to-date (and stable!) on -current patch, even -stable is very usable.
4. I am personally tired of having to patch */Linux distros once or twice every week at least. With OpenBSD, I only have to do so once a month maybe.
5. LibreSSL and other great software from OpenBSD. I really like OpenIKED for VPNs, for example. It's in base, so no extra packages required.
But that said, OpenBSD is not for everyone. I could give myself more justification for all this. The problem is the majority of /g/ has never had experience from OpenBSD. I also feared to try *BSD myself for the first time for the fear of it being so different and after having bad experience with FreeBSD.
I think that if the project has enough support we'll make an OS more like OpenBSD, with stuff like Jails, ports, etc. For now, Arch is being used as a wrapper OS to demonstrate a proof of concept.
how about we make a seperate user repository (similar to the aur) for people to post their ricing configs and implement a program to easily change between themes. Pre-riced is the only reason crunchbang was ever relevant.
Bruh, then u motherfuckers better get all those ricer fags in desktop threads to start contributin. Write scripts to automatically copy over all the files needed to achieve the aesthetic. Make sure switching themes is flawless. You need to set the distro apart from the rest of the 100 distros. Pre-riced is the way to go.
Make it pretty, people will use it.
Top notch /g/-quality programming right there.
Make a new account and you don't have to worry about anything, if you need a fast email address to register use hushmail or something like that, expires after 2 unused weeks anyway.
GNU nano 2.2.6 New Buffer Modified
A bit crude, I must say. But it gets the point across?
OpenBSD doesn't have jails. They do chroot + systrace because it's simpler, pretty much.
Many apps chroot themselves by default. I've never needed to use systrace because it's difficult to get right.
Don't you feel a caveman when you are forced to slide your fingers through some material so that you can simulate the movement of a small arrow following clicky buttons and clicking next, because that's what you are supposed to do?
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The idea is to create a pre riced build for beginners to Linux who want to see what a good setup looks like, without having to figure stuff out through online tutorial etc. As well as provide them with the recommended software for Linux.
Because normally I see people saying Arch is the way to go because you get to choose what ever you want. Those software are all great but there are also good alternatives that are popular, such as weechat and Awesome for example.
Alright, that makes sense then.
Why the fuck are we calling it logos?
At least clover sounded like a legit linux fork