>what do you have?
>what are you working on?
>how have they helped you?
Check into school's that could be lenient about prerequisites or let you go through them before your master's or PhD. I know at my school some of the guys getting masters in EE did their undergrad in ME or Comp Sci or something else and they took a few undergrad classes before their master's classes.
No. I read up on the terminology and that's not what I meant.
Here the system is like this: you have to take a subject as a secondary if you intend to go into masters in that. And if you take a secondary subject while in Bsc you effectively do an extra 1/3 of academic credit to finish. I only did a limited amount of physics during my studies so I can't go straight into masters.
I could take the subjects necessary as an "extern", but then I'd have to pay for what is otherwise free of any charge (our universities are all free) so I prefer to be enrolled into Bsc studies.
1 test down for CCNP Security, taking CCNP R&S while waiting for the rest of the CCNP Security book to be published.
Network and VOIP Engineer
84K salary, 18K bonus.
I earn around 125k with bonuses included. I have been a programmer before. I think just having a well rounded skill set is key. As an admin or engineer, you have to think 'larger' than programmers often do. I don't mean that to be negative. It is really helpful to understand multiple areas of IT (network, storage, virtualization, security, automation, etc).
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When you say experience on my own, I have an idea that I'd love your opinion on.
I already have a computer repair business, and have done marketing for a number of businesses in my area so I have connections and trust.
Do you think it would be possible to transition that work into infosec for small local businesses as a way to build my resume in a real-world way?
I know for a fact many of them have no security period, not anything past default firewalls, etc.
I think I could offer my services in security, do them a good services, make money, and build my resume at the same time.
Would a big infosec company give a single shit that I did stuff like this on my own?
I mean, at my current workplace I don't get many chances to gain sysadmin skills. Occasionally, like one time, I installed Zabbix on all our servers when I had some downtime, but usually I don't get to do cool things like that.
Basically, I'm stuck learning this stuff from books in my spare time, which will take me years before I get anywhere.
I'm currently reading Unix and Linux System Administration Handbook, then I'll probably read some Red Hat book and try the RHCSA.
I'd appreciate any helpful tips.
I would say it would be worth something, just label it at small business security consulting.
I am fortunate in I have a friend who has me "interning" for a pen testing / consulting company on paper right now while I am getting my plebian system assistant job role.
I woul say go for it anon,
Find dumps online for whatever exams you plan on taking to have a really good idea on what is going to be on there.
Just search "comptia dumps" on tpb and you will get some results.
>what do you have?
CCNA (Routing and Switching), MCSE, RHCSA, ITILv3 Foundation
>what are you working on?
Nothing. Thinking of getting CCNP, but it's probably not worth it.
>how have they helped you?
Easily get an entry level job
How do I study for my certs if I spend all my time on 4chan?
If you lack the ability of multitask in that small of a case study, you might not be destined for IT bubble master race.
> "if you really want something you will make time for it" - Adolf Hitler
i have non
working on my ccna so i can get a job
i was a network admin for last 4 years in marine corps
the amount of shit u need to know for that cert vs to actually perform the job is insane
I had that coming. I love shitposting too much.
>Anything over $50k without MCSE
if u go ccent get cbtnuggets videos from pirate bay
jeremy cioara is pretty good but i wouldnt pay for that shit
ccent is icnd1
ccna is icnd2
the ccent is a lot of information but ccent to ccna isnt too much of a jump
I'm a DBA. Pretty much >>47052616 said. Being well-rounded helps a lot. Your programming experience already helps in regards to scripting.
Also I'd say try to learn Linux. I mean there are Windows sys admins and SQL Server DBAs out there, and they're both respectable fields (don't let the Linux elitists convince you otherwise). However, there's a lot more opportunities out there if you know Linux well.
If you're still in college, try to get a sys admin job. Usually you can shadow the sys admins working for some department and eventually work on your own.
If you're not in college, just try to learn as much as you can. Start going on Hacker News too. Lots of good info gets posted there. These websites are good starting points too:
http://www.opsschool.org/en/latest/introduction.html (this isn't 100% but still has good info)
Also the book UNIX and Linux System Administration Handbook is pretty much THE book on Linux system administration. Download or buy it.
>Can't even touch the server(s) your authenticating against
Do you guys even bother to renew your certs every 2-3 years after you have landed a job?
The only thing I'm hesitant about with ccent is that it will pigeon hole me to only networking related jobs.
I have a big library of info already on it but don't want to end up shafting myself to just one field and realize that I would have liked another one more.
i saw a system admin job posting that paid like 70 an hour
they wanted ccna and programming and college and server certs it was pretty demanding
if u get ccna and havent gotten ccnp in 3 years to auto renew your ccna you should kill yourself
Senior IT Fag here. I always though about Microsoft certs, but it's implied you know Windows. Every job I've had is Windows and Mac, or Windows and Linux, or Windows on VMware. The exotic pieces bring the money. Nobody wants a Windows admin unless you specialize in Exchange, MS SQL, or System Center, and so on.
Did the Apple certs working at a University. Huge Mac population and didn't have to pay. Probably wouldn't have otherwise. Ran a Magic Triangle with Open Directory and Active Directory for years.
windows is easy as shit to use neways
all i got in marine corps was a 5 minute walkthrough of active directory but it was enough to do the job
i hate how people think you need vmware certs its just as easy as installing an operating system on a regular computer
or they want xp with a certain program like using vmware vs oracle is somehow gonna radically change the way your server is operating
>Nobody wants a Windows admin unless you specialize in Exchange, MS SQL, or System Center, and so on.
>Everybody wants system administrators trained in what their businesses use
I've never seen a business that doesn't use SharePoint, of course they're gonna want their Windows admins trained in it.
Yeah, it does depend on the area. Where I am it's pretty much all Oracle or SQL Server jobs, but we generally have more Linux network or sys admins here. Although there's a sizable amount of Windows jobs too.
>what do you have?
>what are you working on?
nothing - current job doesn't really have incentives anymore for additional certs. just recert my ccie every 2 years.
>how have they helped you?
big raise(s), senior position (don't have to fuck around with direct customer bullshit), "respect" - to the extent that exists in IT anymore - most folks at least trust i know what the fuck i'm talking about and get out of my way (or they figure out they are wrong the hard way)
Sshhhhh don't give away the secret. VMware is big money for easy work.
To anybody who wants to learn a hugely in-demand skill set - virtualization. VMware, Hyper-V, and XenServer specifically.
~ 3 years.
CCNP 2000 (?)
CCIE (Late) 2002
I started at an ISP in 1996. A very poor ISP. I think it helped, because we had to learn how to do things on our own - we couldn't afford anything. Learned Linux from there as well.
>50k a year
>3rd year I've worked there
>"Performance" based raises every year that are guaranteed
>assistant to the VP of technology at a very small bank
>0 certificates and no degree
I think I've found my career
>VMware is big money for easy work.
This *used* to be the case, but not really anymore. If you've gone fully down the VMWare rabbit hole and have ESXi, vsphere, and the whole vcloud suite, there is a fuckton of stuff to do. Suddenly with NSX the core of the network might be in vmware.
get hands on experience and home
get something like that or a server desktop and then use vmware with pirated windows server and exchange isos to get some hands on yourself
as these talks of big salary have got me flustered.
I should be grateful for a 35k-40k salary with just an associates and 2 certs on my first job in Pennsylvania, yea? Or is this far too low? I'm considering moving to Colorado after I graduate because I hear the market for Database techs there is pretty good so hopefully better pay.
Well I havent graduated yet and only been applying to a few places and only got an offer of 25k at some highschool being their tech guy.
I know to learn SQL and get MSCE
Yea, I know to steer clear of internships and just get straight into some sort of real help desk/technician type of job. I'm considering the Navy for an IT job even. No xp sucks ass.
join the marine corps as a 0651
youll leave with 4 years xp as a network administrator working on sat com to servers to routers and switches to firewalls and acls to user computers and images u will learn fucking everything
CCNA, A+, Security+. Got free vouchers for all of them.
Honestly, I've been waiting for a thread like this to come up for awhile. What the hell can this get me? I'm a junior in college majoring in CS.. Could I get a decent summer or part time job with these? Will people actually fucking hire you off certs alone? Seems kinda retarded
yeah they drug test
i got kicked out recently for steroids
usually 4 year contract
no shit you live in the barracks unless youre married
lot of marines were that dorky kid in school. youll be fine
>Could I get a decent summer or part time job with these?
Is it POSSIBLE? Definitely. Is it LIKELY? Well...
>Will people actually fucking hire you off certs alone?
Sometimes, but mostly they look for experience.
college alone is worthless
at least get certs with ur paper degree
certs show that u are actually capable of doing a job
nobody in it gives a fuck about your english and band classes
i have weird blinking problem too
i dont know if its from years of 3 scoops noxipro 2 scoops craze
and then that time where i was snorting pure dmaa powder for a while
do u also heavily abuse stims?
No. I've had OCD since I was a little kid and it just takes different forms. Sometimes it's smelling my upper lip sometimes it's spurts of uncontrollable blinking.
I'm used to it though. Sometimes if I concentrate really hard I can pretend to be a normal person every once in a while.
depends what u want for certs
cbtnuggets from piratebay
cheap routers and switches on amazon if u want ccna
i think i spent 200 total on 2 routers 2 switches and all the cables i need
u need console cable and a usb to db9 converter for that
Sorry if this is for /sqt/ but I feel you guys are better to ask
If I'm getting a bachelors in computer engineering & a masters in computer science, will getting any certs boost my chances at getting a software job at Google/Apple/Microsoft?
if u wana "work" ur way to ccent ud start with net+ i guess
its the lowest cisco cert tho so theres really no working your way to it just going in balls deep
u should get 2 routers 2 switches at the very least
i got 2 of each of those
theyre pretty cheap used
ull need a console cable
and a usb to db9 as well
and if u want a set of crimpers to make your own ethernet
or u can just get them on monoprice
youll need a crossover cable to connect router to router but router to switch will be straight through
ull also need to get a program like hyperterminal to console in but u can get that free on google
it doesnt do a good job emulating switches
you can get packet tracer free on piratebay
i worked on routers and switches for the last 4 years. i spent the money on routers and switches anyways because id rather work with physical gear.
i think someone brand new would definitely be better off getting those awkward first time with the gear moments out of the way while studying and not first day at the new job lol
i think its very dependent on the field you go into as well
networking jobs certs are very important so you can accurately gage what an applicant knows
but programming languages a degree would probably mean more
I'm working in the industry making 45K desktop support without cets. I want to get into systems administration? Would certs be a good path to pushing into such roles, and how much time cost is there to getting them?
> search tpb for "comptia dumps"
> study those
> you win.
It isn't all that hard.
Currently doing BA compsci, getting ccna and mcsa win7 and serv2012 are what I'll be doing this summer, since we have to pass the tests at school to pass, but we're not getting the certs for them...
man Im getting my AA in CS from junior college this year. one of my classes offered a free ccent but I was retarded and passed the practical fine but failed the objective part. Should I just give up on my future or try again?
First I don't rate certs, they are HR fodder and don't mean shit, Bachelors degrees aren't much better.
I am on 160k AUD doing network and voip design, security etc
CCIE Collaboration Written
MCSE for NT4
First year CS major here. I'm interested in possibly being a DevOP or at least having a more diverse background. I'm interested in network/computer security . Does anyone have any recommendation on what else I should be learning along with side my CS degree? Are there any certs that could possibly give me a leg up when I start applying for jobs?
Basically I’m looking for a starting point in regards to security? resources? literature? advice?
Work as a junior sysadmin.
All my experience comes from reading the teaching material for the certs, fucking around with VM's and "hands on" experience with the servers and systems in the company,
I won't go as far and say that certs are worthless, because they are not, but they shouldn't be your main focus either. Good certs can get you into top positions when you look for a new job, but so can experience.