>50 is the budget option my german ISP offers
>can go up to 200 for 20 eurobucks more per month
>Germany considered pretty far behind in Europe
meanwhile yuroshit internet continues to stagnate
by 2016 Time Warner will have minimum 50mbits for everyone
You clearly don't have gigabit internet.
Because if you did you'd know that there are usually other bottlenecks even at 100mbps.
Gigabit is only useful in a flat or office with dozens of people downloading at the same time.
It's 2015. Gigabit ethernet is years old you dumb dumb. My SSD can store faster than 125MB/s. You were close though. Yes, most people won't even touch gigabit but if you have the proper setup and hardware you can.
I know that. Germany is a very tightly crowded country and it's easy to upgrade cables and shit while you have many miles of no man's land between your cities.
It's just nice to see you getting better internet at last.
>10mbps/1mbps internet in 2001
>15mbps/1mbps in 2004
>30mbps/2mbps in 2008 (upped to 5mbps upload 2009)
>101mbps/35mbps in 2011
curious to see when we get the next bump. DOCSIS 3.0 equipment can do 343mbps if I recall correctly
That's why I said earlier that I'm dumbfounded where this comes from.
People in my state (Not country, but state of Germany. Maybe I live in a sweet spot) are unable to get less than 60 with a new cable contract.
>people still using the size argument for having shitty internet
Look, if you alreayd have access to broadband, your ISP has no reason to put data caps and charge a premium for speeds. The only reason they do is because of a lack of competition.
The size problem was dealt with in the 90s when the government built a nationwide fiber backbone because they realized that the internet was kind of a big deal. Almost all speeds upgrades since then have come through better implementations of data transfer over that fiber, not from new fiber being dug into the ground.
You might be right on spot there. Didn't really think of that since western Germany pumped so much money into that region since the reunification. They might still be quite a bit behind.
The Google Fiber effect is primarily from normal ISPs upgrading speeds and lowering prices in places where Google Fiber is expected to be avalible in order to avoid losing costumers when it actually does arrive.
It's a predictable reaction in a situation where competition is getting fiercer.
To clarify.. I'm thinking about rural areas here.
I live in a shitty town (about 1000 inhabitants) no one cares about in NRW 40km from the next city and I can still get 200 Mbps, but that might not be the case in the former DDR.
Berlin sure, but there might be lots small villages where no one wants to invest for 1000 people to get fiber.
And Google Fiber is still in only 3 cities you retarded mongoloid. They have a few more planned but nowhere near the amount to make a dent on current ISP's. Also according to you, all the ISP's would have to do is upgrade where Google Fiber is arriving and leave the rest of their customers in non-fiber cities with shit internet, except they aren't doing that.
Sure, but a lot of that went into roads, some of which wasn't even paved during reunification. They've done a lot of good with the money but sadly internet speeds
have been low of the list of things to get.
I mean this site doesn't even track former DDR areas in their speed statistics.
Seems about right.
And in a few months my speeds will jump to 200/20mbits >for free :3
>They have a few more planned but nowhere near the amount to make a dent on current ISP's
Sure only a few are "planned" but those are just the list of confirmed places which will get it within the foreseeable future but they are in talks with hundreds of cities around the country. They are absolutely planning a nationwide service within the decade.
They won't go around saying "Yeah we're planning on expanding to NYC within the next five years" without actually having completed the negotiations and struck the deals and made sure that's actually the case.
>everywhere outside of major cities
That's what I meant.
I live in a very small village with less than 1000 people about 10 km away from this
which is also pretty small and I can get 200Mbps.
Looks like rural areas in eastern Germany are still a bit fucked.
I like Merkel and respect her politics but she's really fucking us up the ass on this whole internet thing. The movement that every German should have the right to fast internet was a good idea but they also counted wireless 3g/LTE internet which is fucking bullshit because it's all capped at ridiculously low amounts of data.
Here's the thing that people don't get. What should be mentioned is not speed, but bandwidth. Think of it like a tank and a marble. If both are at the same speed, the tank (imagine 1gbps) deals more damage hitting something than the marble (imagine 1kbps). Same SPEED, higher bandwidth (more mass). Americans may have the same speed as Europeans, but the Americans are shooting marbles at each other while Europe has WWIII and wonders why the Anericans are bringing down the average IQ of the world.
new york here
I don't even have a bandwidth cap
if I use up 2TB/day I'll eventually get a phone call (after a couple months/years) and they'll be a little perturbed
but that's all that happens
I'm paying like $80 or so from comshit for 105 down and get mid 20s typically, high 20s on a really good day.
There's more to it than people not wanting to pay a lot for it. The ISPs simply don't want to spend the money to build better infrastructure even when governments give them the money to do so. They just pocket it all.
the only way to get out of this mess is government money (which will cost way more than it would cost if the private sector would do it) or competition. Google is doing it in the US. I guarantee you the internet providers there are scared shitless about google fiber even though only a very small percentage has access to it. that's why speeds are increasing all over the place.
as long as no company does shit like this here in Germany nothing will happen. nobody will pay for new cables everywhere just to get 5€ more out of a customer. it doesn'T make any sense
I'm glad you guys are getting better internet, since slow as shit ISPs that rip you off suck ass.
I upgraded to 500/500 recently. Could've gotten 1000/30 but I'd rather have the upload. 500Mbps is crazy fast anyway, I don't actually download anything large enough that 500Mbps feels slow.
If only DSL would just fucking die and let me have equal download upload rates I'd be satisfied with a 5/5 Mbps. But nah, here have 10/0.3 just to fuck with you.
I can use Steam In-Home Streaming over VPN around the city, it's awesome.
Download sometimes drops to like ~200Mbps though, I suppose I still have to yell my ISP's customer service sometime.
Nothing happened in my area.
I have 2 choices Verizon DSL (current) that can't do more then 5Mbps down before the lines starts shitting out
or Comcast, that has an archaic 300GB data cap that charges $10 per 50GB over. I'd blow that in less then two weeks.
ITS WONDERFUL TO LIVE IN A SHITHOLE
>The size problem was dealt with in the 90s when the government built a nationwide fiber backbone because they realized that the internet was kind of a big deal.
Actually the Government gave ISPs billions of dollars to do that and they pocketed most of it.
>The size problem was dealt with in the 90s when the government built a nationwide fiber backbone because they realized that the internet was kind of a big deal. Almost all speeds upgrades since then have come through better implementations of data transfer over that fiber, not from new fiber being dug into the ground.
That's so untrue I can't even begin to comprehend a rebuttal to it except to tell you that my entire cul de sac had no sort of internet connectivity until about 6 years ago.
Weren't you the one saying that it was a good thing? The federal government should be doing as little as possible to keep the US going. They're the reason we even have ISP monopolies in the first place.
The government is the reason Europe doesn't have ISP monopolies and shit speeds.
>muh free market muthafucka!
Alright, bud. I'm sure the ISPs would all play nice if there was no regulations. Just like Standard Oil.
Yeah. The Government is totally looking out for your best interests amirite?
Did you forget about Five Eyes and the NSA?
>the government entities that regulate commerce cannot be separated from law enforcement and spying agencies!
>they're the same dude, somehow the NSA is going to fuck you even harder if anti-monopoly laws are passed!
I see no reason to continue this conversation. You have a very simplistic view of the world.
>United States download speed jumps from borderline dial-up speeds to not so slow Africa-grade download speeds in just one year!!
>live in MN
>10Gbps connections available in Minneapolis
>1Gbps connections available in surrounding suburbs
>every major cable ISP has a 50Mbps mid range plan
>even the far north is getting high speed internet in towns of just a few hundred people
>current ISP has a 50 Mbps connection for $45 a month with no data cap
Internet is pretty good in North Dakota too.
>He'd used up most of his family's data streaming anime.
15GB ain't shit for video streaming, he probably didn't even watch that much. Or maybe he did, in terrible, terrible quality.
He had unlimited throttled internet between midnight and 5 am.
He'd torrent anime during that time which was a good bit of what he watched.
The streaming was just low quality stuff that he didn't want to save. He complained about not having enough space on his drives and I offered to help him compress it. He didn't want to because he thought it wouldn't come out the same, even after I told him that it would.
Still, at least I got the fucker to use GNU/Linux. His Windows 7 installation shit out on him and I wouldn't help him with computer problems otherwise. He's gotten decent at fixing any issues he has with mint. I got his little brother in highschool to use it too.
He's the kind of friend that you call friend but don't actually like being around much.