This is the best interface ever, refined, simple and easy to look at. Prove me wrong.
not sure if it's completely stable yet, I haven't come across any bugs yet. But I would wait until release until you install it on a main machine, the interface is very undeveloped right now. Duno what this shit is talking about, I think it looks ugly.
I still think the 7 start menu is better. Looks better to look at, has easy access to stuff like music or the control panel (to the side mind you and not taking space to the list of programs) and its completely free of any modern apps that I'd never use, though I'm not sure if you can completely remove everything there.
I fucking hate the new interface, it's like they've deformed back to '90s GUI and labeled it as new. It's horrible, why is everything one whole bright color? I know a OS shouldn't be about looks, but this literally hurts my fucking eyes.
what's wrong with BF4?
build 10049 broke MGS:ground zeroes for me but I went back to build 10041 and it works fine
hopefully GTA V works on build 10041 otherwise I'll just have to roll back to 8.1
Can I install technical preview on my main desktop PC? Like I'm not gonna be crashing? I'm on windows 8 right now, and I'm really getting fed up with it but would rather not go back to 7.
>why is everything one whole bright color?
It's not everything, it's just the window borders and taksbar, you fucking autist.
Also, it doesn't have to be a bright color, you can just as well change it to white, gray or black.
And if you want an interface full of gradients, drop shadows and faux reflection effects, go fucking kill yourself. This isn't 2001 anymore, every company has already figured out that software should not look like a 3D simulation just because it can be done. Unless it's used to evoke familiarity with something that is unknown to the user (certainly not the case with any OS in existance today), skeuomorphism is completely useless.
is technical preview worth using as of right now? or is there gonna be like a more stable big beta update coming in a month or so? i dont wanna wait til like fucking july to get this
I don't want that, I just want more refined buttons and borders. Windows 2000, XP, Vista and 7 had borders and colored buttons to make things more defined. Windows 8, 8.1 and 10 have NONE OF THAT, they all make one color without any borders, it's ugly and annoying to use. Go fuck your tablet you metro loving pussy.
I liked this design better than the current build. I hate how search isn't part of the start menu, and I hate how you can't resize the start menu or pin programs in the list part. I also don't like not being able to change how all apps is sorted like in Windows 8.
I'm still in love with the BeOS / Haiku interface. Simple and minimal, but still beautiful to look at it.
Somehow windows 95 looks better than windows 10.
How did they manage to make vista and 7 look so fucking good, and then decide to just throw everything away?
Did they just decide to save money and stop hiring designers, and hope people would not notice?
>tfw they will never go back to/use the Whistler title bar theme
You can do all that in the newest build 10056
Here is a screen cap of it. I like the color options automatically change depending on your background picture too, nice little perk.
>my concept of the simplest, most refined, easiest to use UI
I'm a firm believer that the newest version of Windows is always the best version of Windows, but that doesn't mean Windows isn't the worst OS.
Also, the tiles on the start menu look like literal ads.
Just use Debian.
OpenGL is infinitely superior regardless of the OS you use it on. I can't wait until the day DX dies and we get more cross-platform games.
>inb4 that's bullshit
Go look at Valve's L4D2 benchmarks.
ugly as fuck mixture of metro and the normal start menu
it would be fine if it could be disabled without using some third party shitware, but I bet microsoft, being the cocksuckers they are, won't include the option
Wow. That sounds dreadful. I can honestly say I haven't had anything like that on DX or OpenGL. I've even had both Nvidia and AMD GPUs. I guess I'd blame the specific application/game with the issue or possibly your drivers. Worst case scenario is a hardware problem, but the way you say "ALWAYS" makes me think it's been with more than one GPU.
Daily reminder that the word "simple" doesn't exist in Microsoft's vocabulary. Once you remove Canonical's faggotry, Unity is a million times simpler that Win10, and far more configurable.
This. Windows 7 has the best looking for sure. Its is really pleasant balance between stuffs.
Why did they change it when it was so good? Now flat designs are everywhere and damage productivity with lack of shadows and messed up borders.
Ps: Windows 2000 was really cool looking too.
beat this faggot
>mfw someone actually wrote a screenfetch clone for winshit so winfags don't feel left out
windowsfags will defend this
Sent from Windows 7 SP1
Seriously, look at it in terms of modern UI standards and compare to Windows 10.
>flat looking icons with simple bold colors
>everything is square, no rounded corners
>function over form: simple look that emphasizes content rather than showing off
>controls are simple and consistent across the system
>flat window borders
Better even, it shows you where to grab to resize.
The program manager is shit, multitasking is shit, navigating the file system is utter shit.
It was, of course, perfectly adequate for what it was, but I wouldn't call it the height of the Windows UI, not even slightly.
>I bet you can't even restart Windows without rebooting the whole machine in 9x, NT, 2K and XP.
No, you can't, because NT isn't DOS with a crude overlay.
I can't remember if you can get back into Windows from "DOS mode," but I'm pretty sure you can.
No wasted pixels at the bottom of your screen when you maximize/fullscreen an application. Seriously, this was a major gripe when Win95 was new.
>The program manager is shit
You can group your programs and launch them easily. Group icons expand when you double-click on them. What's the problem? It's a fair deal nicer than the wonky Metro start screen where you have to scroll back and forth to find the group you want since they don't expand/collapse.
>multitasking is shit
Works on my machine (TM)
>navigating the file system is utter shit
If you don't like File Manager, download one of the fine alternatives that are available.
>I can't remember if you can get back into Windows from "DOS mode," but I'm pretty sure you can.
You can. It's a DOS shell. Just exit and type WIN and it loads again.
>You can group your programs and launch them easily. Group icons expand when you double-click on them. What's the problem? It's a fair deal nicer than the wonky Metro start screen where you have to scroll back and forth to find the group you want since they don't expand/collapse.
Why do you think I'm unironically shilling for the piece of shit that is metro? Adding program shortcuts to the manager can be kind of annoying, which is my biggest problem with it.
>If you don't like File Manager, download one of the fine alternatives that are available.
but you shouldn't have to, that's the problem
>Works on my machine (TM)
works for me too, considering I'm running it on hardware that was $10-12k when 3.1 was a new product I would kind of expect it to, doesn't mean it isn't still shit, the taskbar is pretty wonderful for quick application switching
>You can. It's a DOS shell. Just exit and type WIN and it loads again.
figured you could, I never run 9x in DOS mode
>Adding program shortcuts to the manager can be kind of annoying
Eh, if I'm remembering right, it's just file, new, put the command, give it a name and optionally an icon and you're set.
>but you shouldn't have to, that's the problem
You shouldn't have to install 3rd party software to get a functional start menu back either.
>works for me too
Even on lesser machines it worked fine for the time. You didn't expect a 386 to run 20 programs at once, so alt-tab was sufficient for switching tasks. It even worked properly for switching between full-screen, textmode, and windowed apps.
>You shouldn't have to install 3rd party software to get a functional start menu back either.
You shouldn't, that's why Windows post-8 is garbage.
>alt-tab was sufficient for switching tasks
it is, but I still prefer the taskbar rather than cycling through the alt-tab carousel when I'm running a lot of applications.
I just don't like 3.1 versus 95 and later, the start menu/taskbar really were useful additions to the OS and something long overdue
that and 3.x just plain looks like ass to me for whatever reason even at higher resolutions
Half of the windows xp users didn't go to vista because it was too heavy for their system.. then Microsoft realized that 90% of their customers are plebs so they have to make their OS less demanding and more simple. So they pooped out win8
I like the W10 start menu, although... It's got a long way to go. I like that you can customize it a lot more than you used to be able to, hell, I could in all likelihood stop using my taskbar as a shortcuts toolbar if I bothered taking the time adding everything back to it.
How will I be able to use my 8.1 key for 10?
Will I be able to just punch my 8.1 key into 10 during the installation, or will I have to install 8.1 fresh, them immediately do an "upgrade" to 10?
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Windows 8.1, is in fact, Windows 8.1/Key, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Windows 8.1 plus Key. The key is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another expensive component of a fully functioning Windows system made useful by the Windows corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by Microsoft.
Many computer users run a modified version of the Windows system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of the installation key which is widely used today is often called "Windows", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Windows system, developed by Microsoft. There really is an installation key, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
The installation key is the license: the code in the system that allocates the machine’s right to run the other programs that you run. The key is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. A Windows key is normally used in combination with the Windows operating system: the whole system is basically Windows with a key added, or Windows/Key. All the so-called "Windows" distributions are really distributions of Windows/Key.
Windows 10 will be 'free' according to Microsoft. Even people using pirate copies will get the free upgrade. It's probably the smartest thing Microsoft has ever done.
Or the dumbest.
Either way it's going to drive a much higher adoption rate than any previous version of windows and the M$ Store will always be there, waiting for a big enough userbase to make it profitable.
Essentially, they're taking the Android approach but spreading it across phones, tablets, XBox AND PC.
No, but many of them will use Bing and get the integrated ads. This also helps save MS from having another XP -- a 10 year old OS they're forced to continue supporting because a large portion of the userbase is still using it.
Well, *I* don't, that's fucking retarded, but M$ certainly seem to. Besides, it's possible. Certainly with Android stuff, it's less hassle to just buy the damn 'pro' app at £2 than to spend four hours scouring through the usual sources looking for this obscure app, downloading a copy that's not 5 versions out of date, then finding it was repackaged with malware in any case.
I'm willing to bet that M$ are betting along the same lines, plus ad revenue, although anyone with a half-ounce of common sense knows how to block said ads, but M$ won't care - they'll get the contract to slot ads into the OS framework, so they get paid regardless of whether the ads get seen or not.
at least use a screenshot from the new build that leaked where they fixed the shutdown button to be in the right place.
>shutdown button is in the wrong place
> programs and features are arent well organized compared to win7
>metro apps are useless
For the plebs, yeah, but fuck them. More money in my pocket when I'm asked to come get rid of all those toolbars.
Underneath all the fluff they've skinned it with, windows 10 is a very slick piece of software. And it's a massive improvement on 8/8.1 - at least it's possible to find what you're looking for with 10, without being forced to start blindly typing search terms into a tablet interface and hoping it finds the right thing. Windows 7 was still more traditionally-PC-User-friendly, but compared to 10, was a slow resource hog.
I'm not saying I'm excited about the final releases, but I'm looking forward to re-formatting, clean installing and comfortable use.
By the way, I've been running 10 in the LEAST stable configuration possible. Windows 7, upgraded to 8.0 then rolled back, upgraded to 8.1 and rolled back, then upgraded to 10 with release 9010(I think? It was early anyway), and kept patching up until now. One or two crashes, mostly relating to goddamn flash player being a dick, but otherwise?
Stable as a rock.
It's done through a windows update like service at the moment. In fact, even with the latest releases, you can uninstall it like any other service pack and revert to windows 7 - I'll be doing a clean install once the final release is out, but updates have been stable enough so far.
Dreamspark/wandering around your local electrical retailer taking smartphone pictures of the underside of laptops.
Many ways to skin the free cat without sticking your fingers up it's arse.
>Log into Dreamspark at least once a month, maintain 4 year academic account.
>Contact favourite lecturer once a year with new Gmail account, have 5 functioning dreamspark accounts by this point.
>free stuff is worth 'Hey, I lost my account, would you mind setting me up with a new one? I'm trying to test a 6 client exchange setup and I can't get into this damn account. Thanks man! btw, how's the new lot this year? They deleted the suse server to make room for minecraft again?'
My computer hasn't frozen or bluescreened since I installed windows 8 and 8.1 the day they came out, so you can shut the fuck up.
Stick to your shit hipster OS, smelly permavirgin NEET faggot!
Last time I checked, everyone in every office everywhere uses Windows, unless they are idiot artists, who use Macs because they are PC illiterate.
Linux is only good for servers and programmers and autistic parasites that live with their parents. Everyone else uses Windows.
You obviously have never worked in a corporation or in an environment with a lot of computers, so fuck off.
The start menu? Maybe, until you open a program.
The rest of the DE is the same since win95 and completely out of place. They should have made two completely separate interfaces, not a single blob of things. But my brand...
>outperforms every version of Winblows at everything.
I shat my pants laughing at this.
The only thing linux outperforms anything at anything is license costs, and that is the only fuckin reason it is on web servers everywhere.
>everything is flat
>mini-metro on the start menu
Please,kill that mess already.
Notice the mixture of those metro-icons, with the white icons, with the old windows7 icons.
The UI department at MS should step up already.
And fix the fucking Skype for android already. Notifications don't work properly.
>Why did they change it when it was so good?
Because if doesn't go well with a range of 1280x800 to 3840x2160 screen resolution.
Minimal is easier to scale, that's the only reason.
It lacks any form of structure or logic. Even the name "Start Menu" is saying nothing about what it this thing actually does or contains. Apparently it starts things, even this is a misnomer since you also need to click it to turn the computer off, or change settings?
Anything in the left upper list just cluttered together, there are links to two directories, then theres a link to PC settings, and then then theres a link to the file manager again, why is it mixed up?
There's a search bar at the bottom of the task bar and then there's also a search bar in the start menu. Why? Whats the difference between those two?
On the right hand side, there's a grid of applications, but there also a list of applications on the left side, whats the point of having both? Why are some icons in the grid displaying titles while the others of the same size are not? Whats the point in those messy alterations of tile sizes, which only makes looking at it more tiring?
What are those images that are apparently just displaying random ads for games, movies or companies doing there?
Why are some icons flat and some 3d?
I still have no clue what the fuck are they doing with W10. Why all those useless tiles in the start menu? Why would you want the metro version of programs such as Skype, with their limited ugly tablet UI?
All the changes they have made to the design after W7 are absolutely idiotic. They're just throwing useless mobile stuff into a desktop OS without actually improving anything
>look guise we added a start menu
>see we care about desktop users
>turn away for a min while we turn everything we can into an app
Windows XP with the Zune theme still looks the best IMO.
The Start Menu doesn't need all these tiles and shit, I have 21+ shortcuts pinned to my start menu and that's enough for mostly everything I use.
Everyone, press Windows + D
It minimizes everything and then brings it back, you don't need the start menu to be a fucking desktop sized window popping up. That's what the desktop is for.
Drop shadows are annoying IMO.
Flat designs, however, look terrible. Windows XP's got enough depth to the stuff in it, and the Icons are all done well.
I don't like the borderless look of 10 but I do like the lack of shadows.
They seriously are.
Even programs like browsers are coming out with the fucking retarded "mobile" menus which is the 3 horizontal bars. If I ever see that mobile menu on an OS level, I might just go live in the woods.
The search has gotten worse and worse since windows 7. It just seems to want to pop up bing search most of the time. Land the search is very important now that it's very difficult to navigate the start menu.
What? We've got Aero flip, and there's also many programs for emulating multiple desktops.
Windows 10 actually makes multiple desktops native, even though it's a useless feature no one uses.
>windows can't do it
"oh that's retarded, no one wants that anyway"
You realize how obvious your butthurt is, that after 10 years Windows still hasn't caught up to this basic linux functionality?
No, I'm glad they're adding virtual desktops, they should have done that long ago. I just think a 3D view of 2d workspaces is completely unnecessary and only good for morons who believe that fancier animations make a better OS.
I bet you plebs are still stuck eating 3-dimensional mangoes too.
What do I win?