I will be getting my first Apple Computer in May.
>should I use the iMac 2013 21.5-inch or the 12-inch Macbook
iMac: Processing Power, Simplicity in Design but will get a update right after I purchase it.
12-inch Macbook: Shit processor, cuteness, won't update right after I purchase it.
>Should I get the iMac or 12-inch Macbook.
I am using this computer very lightly so it may tolerate what I do on a daily basis.
>Also I will not change my mind about getting something like a ThinkPad or a Custom Built Computer. So get gud and...
>inb4 thread opposition and oppresion. Fuck you.
It's good to see people are starting to recognize that the Macbook is an alternative to the iPad. There were people on this board evaluating the Macbook compared to the rMBP and similar machines and patting themselves on the backs when they felt content making the case that it wasn't as good. It's clearly not for those people; it's for people who looked at the iPad all this time and thought "great, but I *do* write a lot of emails and I don't like any bluetooth keyboards I've ever used [because they're almost all complete shit]".
Okay, what should I do about the new force touch trackpad. Maybe I should go about hunting for a 2014 Retina Macbook Pro.
Get the new Macbook. It's portable. You can take it anywhere and you can work out of any coffee shop or other open wifi access point. For that reason alone I'd go with MB.
Anandtech has a really good review of new MB and they like it.
Sounds great and how about that force touch trackpad. You have to touch it instead of slam it down. But I can fix this with a good old Mouse.
>Which type of Macbook, the 12 inch or the 13 inch?
To your point, 12-inch Macbook do have a cute look and a 1,300 base model price tag.
>Sounds great and how about that force touch trackpad. You have to touch it instead of slam it down. But I can fix this with a good old Mouse.
that new touchpad is superior to any other touchpad. it's even in the new MBP. every review I've read of new MB says it's awesome. old touchpad was better than any other touchpad on the market and Apple upped their game yet again.
have you been to a store and tried it out yet? go try it and use it for 10 min.
All the butthurt surrounding Macbooks made me look into them, and they actually seem like decent laptops, and definitely better than any of the macbook clones that keep getting recommended. The only problem is that I can't find any with with decent hard drive space, otherwise I'd probably pick one up used.
Sounds great, do you have any links to a website?
It's just other /g/'s that are getting used to the idea of branding. It's all over the place and if they live in a decent country this would be completely new to them.
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Dang >>>/mlp/. You make horses look too much like humans.
>pic related bump, it's anons wife.
Bloody hell the bar for what constitutes oppression isn't what it used to be.
I remember when a nigger getting chained to a 12V battery and then being blasted with salt from a sandblaster and having his wounds coated in vinegar was oppression. Now just posting "ur mac a fagget" on an East Timorese Timewaster is oppression.
Fuck me with a rake.
Yes, the thing is the force touch trackpads are unclickable. I often found myself touching the trackpad instead of hitting it with my hands.
But even something as simple as using a flash drive becomes a challenge. Actually, that removes the portable advantage as well, if you have to carry around dongles.
Anyone that does more than facebook will find this frustrating.
Even if they chucked a single standard USB port like the MBA it wouldn't be so bad.
So let's keep a tally.
It is an underachiever performance wise.
Many standard operations that are non-technical (and still done if you use computers for actual work) require dongles and accessories to be carried.
See above, but remember that there is one port, so something as simple as copying a file from one flash drive to another becomes a juggling game.
Have you ever been to University? Do you do business?
When I say work I don't mean 'le high school assignments' and checking mcdonalds payslips.
As I said
>if you use computers for actual work
Even then, many people may have a digital camera. I know many people that have things like that.
What the fuck is happening when in 2015 people are trying to convince me that USB ports are a power-user feature?
Heh, very true.
OP: If you're the kind of user who's looking at the standard MacBook, presumably you'd also want some kind of desktop to work with as well?
Obviously I don't know what your usage is like but surely you either need a light portable or a power powerful desktop?
What don't you fucking understand? All I'm saying is not all people plug things into their laptop. You keep coming back with yes but other people do. No fucking shit other people do, but some people don't.
"Oh, anon, here is our presentation for you to present on a flash drive."
"What, you can't use one?"
"Uhh, let me just get out my computer and email it to you"
"Just give me a minute"
"Sorry it's taking so long, you know how busy the wireless is at this time of day"
Still sacraficing practicality for the sake of removing one port.
That's why I suggested if a iMac could be used. Problem is, the iMac is likely to upgrade soon. Not really into missing out on that. I made a thread about the iMac just recently.
>"and now for the new iCar!"
>"oh, to save on wheel parts it only turns left"
What don't you fucking understand? All I'm saying is not all need to be able to turn their cars right. You keep coming back with yes but other people do. No fucking shit other people do, but some people don't.
Just open up a cloud database or connect to your Hillary Clinton based email service and give it to him.
>oh anon, the latest report is now on the company dropbox folder under 2015
>what? You don't have access to the dropbox?
>oh, no problem, let me just run back to my office, find a usb drive somewhere, plug it into my computer, copy the file over, return back to you, hand you the usb drive, wait for you to plug it in your computer, find where I lazily copied the file, and open it up for you
>oh, Bob doesn't have access to it either?
>alright, I'll just wait for you to finish, then give it to Bob
There is nothing wrong with being normal
This may be really hard for the typical empathy-challenged sociopath that frequents this board, but some people prefer the aesthetics of the software and hardware and are willing to pay a premium for that. It staggers me how some people are incapable of taking even the smallest step outside themselves to try and see things from other people's perspectives.
>Cannot detach keyboard
How about loosing your keyboard after you hid it under mountains of porn anime Chinese cartoons,
For a operating system like OS X Yosemite. Go shill Surfaces somewhere else.
Either way, it is still a hassle compared to using a USB, which most people expect to work. That and what if it is a larger file? Large scale wireless networks and public spectrum is stretched as it is now. With every fag trying to send files over the internet it will grind to a halt.
I wouldn't brag about dropbox.
We dropped it during the middle of a group assignment because it took ages for it to recognise and sync files.
"I've put the presentation up for you anon"
"No you didn't"
"Oh, it won't sync"
"Let me try again"
"Maybe its a problem on your end"
"It has the green tick, so I don't know whats happening"
"Can I just put the presentation on a USB for you"
"Oh, that works too"
Turns out it was the shitty non-windows client they had at the time.
>sorry it's taking so long for me to get to your office
>the elevators are just so packed at this time of the day
>what the fuck are IT doing waiting so long to give you dropbox access?
>you really need to be more aggressive in asking them, you know
I shiggity your diggity.
Usually it's a windows network and SMB.
But then again, I don't work at a shitty startup and my device was allocated to me at the offices expence.
Shit performance, high price
Laptop performance and high price for specs, desktop portability. You're better off building your own computer.
The only good Apple computer is the rMBP.
If it involves setting up an ad-hoc network, they come down hard on that stuff. Something about wireless spectrum licencing.
It's usually against most insitutions policies to use ad-hoc wireless networks. I'd check usage policies and agreements before using them.
I personally keep a cat5 handy just in case.
Comes down to either you want portability or a nice sit down computer.
I have a 27in iMac myself and live it. Wonderful computer.
I also have a macbook and macbook air. When it comes to portability I love the air. Fast for being mobile and great battery. Though both I don't like using as a sit down computer. Nothing compares to my imacs 27 inch screen and power.
Maybe a 21.5-inch iMac? Seems legit but hasn't been updated since 2013 and hopefully will not be updated until 2016.
Only the base dual core 21in iMac has full fledge laptop hardware.
The rest of the 21's and 27's all have desktop i5's and i7's.
For example my 27 inch has a 84 watt i5 4570 3.2ghz, 3.6ghz turbo and 16gb of ddr3 1600mhz cas 9 ram. With a 3.5in 7200rpm HD and a pcie ssd.
It uses "WiFi Direct" which is apparently a certified secure variant of ad-hoc http://www.macworld.com/article/1144061/wifidirect.html
And honestly if it were standard adhoc wifi how would they even know. That's an absolutely unenforceable policy. So typical of university IT staff
They have a random day where they check the whole day, but they don't tell people.
They scan for MAC addresses.
I've only ever heard of people getting pinged for using their phones as APs.
>Not just buying a Apple computer
Maybe customizations should be in place. But I rather keep the social status of having a Mac.
>But I rather keep the social status of having a Mac.
You mean being king of poorfags?
A lot of my work these days is actually done remotely, so I thought about using a Macbook as a thin client, but I still do a lot of tinkering on my own machine (testing scripts and stuff on my own computer with a smaller representative dataset), so I don't think I could really drop down from a rMBP yet.
I'm happy with my 15" rMBP and I'll probably get the next one when it comes out, but I was tempted by the 13" rMBP that recently came out. I suspect (read: hope) that whatever quirks may have emerged in the Force Touchpad from the Macbook and 13" rMBP releases will have been ironed out in the 15" rMBP.
I'm pretty sure everyone thinks the people sitting in coffee shops with macs are fags too
You could use 4, but that would be weird, how would that set up work, you usually want one main display with sub displays.
It's more so that you can actually use your screen resolution, retarded ppi just makes your pixels useless.
It's because of the limited channels they can use for running wireless networks.
A large scale campus wide wireless network requires channel co-ordination to avoid interferance.
People who are "muh wireless don't need no cords" take for granted the technical challenge behind providing their access.
If it was a free for all and each of the hundreds of routers ran on whatever it wanted and people brang their own devices, you wouldn't be able to use wireless on campus at all. Each device would jam each other.
>how could they possibly scan the whole campus
I recall them mentioning how they have a few computers with software that logs all wireless in its range.
It wouldn't be physically the whole campus, but by people volume it would be most of it.
>that meme again
No, I mean having the status of being a rich motherfucker with all them cars laughing at the poor freetards
>I'm pretty sure everyone thinks the people sitting in coffee shops with macs are fags too
>I'm pretty sure everyone agrees with me even though I have no idea how common or uncommon my opinion is
Most people don't even give two shits about or even notice people sitting in coffee shops with laptops, they're certainly not obsessing about the brand being 'faggy' like some idiotic autist
Maybe we should have a debate over secure cloud networks.
>Wanting to spend $1000+ on overglorified iShit
Well, I suppose some gullible dipshit has to stimulate the economy.
Every bubble bursts. No company ever stays on top forever. Every "world's largest" and "too big to fail" comprany in history has eventually crashed, dwindled into obscurity, or been overtaken/regulated by the government.
The only difference with this bubble is that the burst will be followed by a river of poorfag tears who deluded themselves into thinking owning "$1000+" toys somehow made them not poorfags.
>dual core 21 inch
You mean the one that costs 1000 bucks?
The one with a shitty ULV cpu with a 1,4 GHz base clock speed?
The one with a 500GB 5400 RPM 2,5" HDD?
The one that would get beaten in speed by a computer I could build for 400 bucks, then 150 bucks more for a nice IPS monitor?
That truly is a great deal!
>27 inch quadcore
It better be good for the TWO AND A HALF THOUSAND DOLLAR price tag.
Having a Superfish root-level certificate that breaks HTTPS on every site, injects ads on all pages and makes you vulnerable to man-in-the-middle attacks is just a bonus feature from Lenovo!
>deluded themselves into thinking owning "$1000+" toys somehow made them not poorfags.
So much this.
I have friends who own: $7000+ in RC cars, $10,000+ in camera equipment, $5,000+ in scuba gear etc. They have no delusions about being wealthy and they know it.
Macpoors with their entire networth in their macbooks and iToys thinking they're wealthy is fucking hilarious.
>Using a watered down version of Linux
I fell for the Thinkpad meme once. Almost died from the eye cancer of the 1280x800 TN panel and the ear cancer from having to hear the fans blaring on at full speed with only notepad open.
>Why do you talk about things you know nothing about?
I'd ask you the same thing. How do you think OS X was even made? It didn't come out of thin air from the "brilliant" minds behind Apple. OS X is nothing more than an overglorified Linux distro filled with pointless shit.
Find the nearest firearm and pull the trigger while inspecting the barrel, iKike
You're a retard. OS X is based on Darwin, Apple's continuation of NeXTSTEP, a fork of BSD 4.3. When Apple took over NeXTSTEP they ported some FreeBSD code over for the userland and later developed launchd for the init system, among various other changes they've made.
They don't freeze up, they take the abuse of people using them daily for over 10 years, most of the thinkpad I've picked up from flea markets have worked fine as well.
It's also water resistant which is nice.
>OS X is nothing more than an overglorified FreeBSD distro filled with pointless shit.
How do you expect to be taken seriously when you post stuff you have to know is wrong?
You're a troll, you say? Oh, carry on.
XP stopped getting security updates, didn't it? How do they keep it secure? Seriously.
I could understand a really barebones Linux installation, but what's the idea of giving people a full OS like Windows, especially if they're going to stick with one released close to 14 or 15 years ago?
They're buying the fucking product, not apple stock. Consumers don't care when a company "crashes"*, they just want their shiny shit.
Although if apple crashes we're in for another recession.
They won't suddenly stop making products or terminate support. When they do decline it will seem gradual to the average macfag, and they'll say "back in my days..."
No, it wasn't FreeBSD, it is NeXTSTEP (well Darwin) with a few FreeBSD components. What you're doing is like saying a Linux distro including OpenSSH is OpenBSD. I never said there was anything revolutionary about it, just that it is not a Linux distro (nor is it FreeBSD based)
The process of getting employed in corporate as a dev is ridiculously, insanely hard and they have heaps of talent locked up there in golden handcuffs. Most of my most successful dev friends have been recruited to there from outside the US. The company isn't going anywhere soon
>people discover that apple has been running at a loss for 20 years
>it all comes crumbling down
>apple products just stop werking because servers are repo'd
>it's declared an environmental disaster
Apple's crash would only be a disaster if people replaced buying iPads with buying nothing. An absolute shrinkage of the economy would be a disaster. Shifting of consumption from faggot company A to faggot company B doesn't really have a huge negative on the economy except for incidental shifts in wealth (e.g. if every Apple consumer started buying Lenovo shit in equal magnitudes of money, Taiwan would see an economic growth because the money that was going to Apple corporate would instead go to Lenovo. But that wouldn't be THAT enormous; Apple only employs so many thousands of people in SV. And there aren't that many dependencies. The rest of SV would move forward.
Not like if Google went under, or Facebook, to an extent.
Actually, without being specific to only apple, what happens if a big company suddenly stops supporting internet dependant devices?
Like Microsoft shuts down 365 servers or Apple kills iPhone services because they can't pay the bills?
I'm trying to think of a scenario where apple will crash (am I correct that "crash" means decline over short term?), where the other tech and manufacturer companies aren't too affected.
It would have to be a company specific event like >>47546753
says. Or some incredible internet meme faggotry. Otherwise I imagine the whole NASDAQ will be declining.
>can't pay the bills
You should look at how much cash they're sitting on.
If for some reason they shut it down.. it will just stop working.
>You should look at how much cash they're sitting on.
I can't. That is why I mentioned it.
Look at Enron, and what they did.
They claimed to be worth a whole bunch, but were actually never out of the red.
A lot of developers use Apple products because that is where the common market is, and web-development because they have a good battery life for the money they ask compared to other who has less or put fake battery hours, yes there are regular laptop that has similar battery life but they are usually underpowered even more or weighs a ton.
In my opinion
Oh I see what you mean. Auditing is a tad bit better after SOX but there will always be fraud, but not every company will be overstated like Enron (a stock price could be overpriced but that's another story). The only way to protect yourself is to accept the risk and diversify your holdings (just buy an index fund).
You're using "crash" correctly. The only way Apple could "crash" and other companies not benefit in any appreciable way would be if there was a macroeconomic event, like a second blow recession (something I don't think we've ever seen before; usually we just hit rock bottom and then start climbing out slowly as we've been doing for the past few years).
Enron wasn't really a crash per se. It was more like a revelation of massive fraud. Certainly anything is possible, but nothing about Apple's numbers are even remotely suspicious. It would be like finding out that for the past few years Washington DC has just been a crater and nobody had bothered to check and tell the rest of the world.
Apple employs a fractional amount of workers in Silicon Valley. Those that would get laid off would certainly find work at Tesla, Facebook, Twitter, etc... to say nothing of those that might go to Microsoft, Amazon, and elsewhere outside of the bay area.
It'd be bad if the company just shuttered overnight, but I don't think it would destroy the economy.
The only time I find myself using a flash drive is when I'm booting up a live CD.
Since I get free unlimited google drive space from my university, I use google docs to write essays, and my university has wifi everywhere I don't really need flash drives that much anymore. It's amazing how popular cloud storage is now from just a few years ago.