I have an iPod touch for use in wifi zones and don't need to be connected everywhere I go. Just don't feel like it's really worth it to double my $30/mo phone bill. Anyone else in the same boat? Am I being too cheap?
Nothing wrong with that. I'm kinda considering just getting a flip phone when my current smartphone breaks since I give no fucks about muh apps and I find it adds more distraction than convenience to my life.
>I need more than 150MB on-the-go
>Who doesn't use Facebook messenger for chatting with friends?
>I pay for the small amount of cash that is beyond my monthly quota.
I get 50mbps on average with T-mobile LTE on their $30 dollar 100 minutes unlimited data plan, throttles after 5GB.
The 100 minutes isn't an issue because I can make/receive calls via the hangouts dialer using data.
This is how Verizon and co. keep getting away with extortionate prices - people have just gotten used to the idea that data plans are supposed to be expensive. Then, even after they learn that there are better alternatives inertia keeps them using the same pricier service anyway because they don't want to chang. Then they rationalize their decision by saying "Well... I might end up in dumbfuckistan, I guess I should be paying an extra $600 a year."
>My straight talk runs of the at&t network so it's fine. 4g and all that, depending on your area of course.
>Verizon has a pay as you go program but it sucks imo, to expensive
Straight Talk is a sub-brand of Trafone and if it's anything like Tracfone you probably get hooked up to whatever network is best in your area. I have Tracfone and I'm on Verizon's network since that's what works best where I live.
I never wanted smartphones either, but I had an option for a bonus at work - either an older iphone or a lumia 800. I got the lumia, and it's pretty fucking sweet. However, I'm not using any of the things that would make it a smartphone, other than a QR reader and the browser.
No, they sell you a pack of sim cards and then you choose which network you want to use since there's a card for all major networks.
I chose at&t cause they've got the best network in my area
>Who doesn't use Facebook messenger for chatting with friends?
I don't use social networking... *GASP*
Facebook is a vapid wasteland of narcissism. What does its messaging system offer that texting doesn't?
>Am I being too cheap?
No, there's no need for constant connection unless you have a very active social life (so noone on /g/). However You could well have a smartphone even without internet connection you know, I myself have stopped using anykind of mobile device like audio players and tablet since being gifted a OnePlus One. Only needing to carry around one device for everything soothes my autism immensely.
>Facebook is a vapid wasteland of narcissism
That it is, if you use it like that.
I only use the tinfoil facebook app for messaging on-the-go, and pidgin on the laptop.
>What does its messaging system offer that texting doesn't?
Instant messaging, group chats for your friend circle, and facebook is more like defcon 5, you can check in when you want to check out your new messages, and it is free.
SMS is more like defcon 3, since you get the messages on your phone if it is on.
My data plan could have been 40$/mo (tmobile 3GB/mo that rolls over) but I chose the 50/mo which is unlimited. I'm not getting throttled to 56 kB.
I used to have ATT and those fuckers wanted to charge me 80/mo
using Samsung C3050 slider dumbphone
no desire to buy smartphone but when this one kicks the bucket I will probably buy shitty 4" Lumia to be able to access the internet occasionally and call it a day
I am slowly getting rid of tech bloat and my goal is to have only laptop, phone and audio equipment
I had 4 smartphones before I gave up and went back. Internet sucks on them and touchscreens are shit. Now my battery lasts a week. I do not miss it.
I don't know if you've noticed, but people don't use their phones for making actual phone calls as much as they used to. I'd rather have a comically oversized phone with a decent qwerty keyboard over fucking T9 any day of the week.
>a country as small as yours still has gaps in coverage
If by 'gaps in coverage' you mean 'sometimes you lose your 4g signal', then sure
10€ a month, 2GB data plan (no charge for extra mb but limited to 32kbits, enough for whatsapp and other IM), 400 minutes call, 1000SMS, LTE almost in every city, always good coverage.
Smartphones would last that long if they were used as much as dumbphones.
With a smartphone I'm constantly dicking with emails and the like, the screen is constantly on. Back when I had a dumbphone it would sit in standby unless actively being used for SMS and calls.
I have a smart phone to reduce my phone bill because I live in a shit country where it costs 30 dollars a month to have calls and texting.
You only take the $70/month plan if you're retarded. I use voip with a tablet data plan. Costs me about $12 a month total. I don't really need a data plan since I'm in range of wifi so often, but the $10 a month for being able to communicate while I'm out and about is a cheap convenience.
Fuck the carriers. They'd actually come into your house and rape your ass if they could put it on a contract.
Fuck Google too.
I've considered this. How can I do this and use my Google Play Streaming service? I like to listen to music on my headphones wherever I go. If I could do that, I'd probably give up my smart phone. I don't like the fact that people don't talk enough as it is.
What's the point of even having a smartphone without a data plan? If I'm at home or work I'll use a real computer, the smartphone is for when I need connectivity in random places.
are you me from the past?
> never had a smartphone
> don't have one since 2006
tfw filling out a form or something and they say you need to put your number and you say you don't have one and people assume you just don't want to give your number
i got a new phone when my old nokia died a year ago. i don't use most of the stuff on the phone. but its handy
I pay $30 a month for unlimited talk/text/data (slows down after 5GB but changes)
from Wind mobile in Canada.
i was really looking forward to a project ara phone. would be nice.
its all up to the user tho.
I'm in Germany.
My data plan is 4 (four) euros a month. Yeah only 150MB high-speed per month, but even when it's throttled it's still unlimited, and it's fast enough for instant messaging, Skype calls and browsing 4chan (not loading pictures above 100kb though unless I'm willing to wait for minutes).
Unlimited high-speed data is a scam, unless you watch a lot of videos online on your phone. If I want to download something I just use WiFi at home or at college anyway
I bought a new Moto G 2nd Gen for around 135 $ with an unregistered Prepaid card in cash. No contract and no subscription packages. It's about 0.01 $ per MB and 0.04 $ per Min/SMS. So I end up paying about 2 $ per month, mostly for browsing the web and the occassional call/SMS.
The only downside is that iOS and stock Android smartphones are the most advanced data hydra in existence. Google is fuckin Illuminati now.
>own a $15 phone
>people around me dropping $300 on phones they use for nothing productive
>getting unlimited plans to text about their new hairdos
>people survived just fine before them
>"you're so weird anon!"
I leave my house all the time. I rarely use it when I'm out. Don't you think it's kind of pathetic that we live in a society where barely anyone is talking to anyone because they're all too retarded and sucked into their phones?
Most people probably hate spending the money but they need to feel accepted.
My family get pissed at me if I ignore calls or texts when in reality 100% of the calls and texts are unimportant and not needed.
Bullshit. People still talk to strangers, you're just too attached to your phone to see it. Also
>drunks and prostitutes
I don't live in a shit hole faggot, I live in a great suburb. Most people at bus stops are hot chicks and business people.
>I like to listen to music on my headphones wherever I go
buy an MP3 player or don't listen to music in public. honestly I believe not having an ipod since high school was important for growing up. on the subway i read and listen to whatever is going on around me
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not listening to music just for the sake of it. I'm a music enthusiast. I pretty much live for it. Maybe I could purchase an Android player or something similar. That or I could go back to pirating. I hate looking down at my screen all the time. I feel like a fucking drone.
>I don't know if you've noticed, but people don't use their phones for making actual phone calls as much as they used to. I'd rather have a comically oversized phone with a decent qwerty keyboard over fucking T9 any day of the week.
I don't know if you've noticed, but there is a nice middle ground between flip phones and 6 inch phablets.
I did this same setup for years and then consolidated the two when I got a smartphone. Never looked back.
Dumb phones are fine if you're a NEET who has one of or a mixture of the following: no/a shitty job, no life, little friends. Which is most people on this board.
That fucking argument is 100% bullshit. People's lifestyles didn't require fast Internet connections and instantaneous communication.
>buhbuhbuh people lived just fine 50 years ago without all that
The world they lived in didn't require it. Not saying you need the latest and greatest smartphone all the time, but try getting anywhere in life today without a computer and an Internet connection.
>but try getting anywhere in life today without a computer and an Internet connection.
It really isn't necessary to have the constant internet connection provided by smartphones unless you have a job which requires you to be on call. Wifi is sufficient for most people.
Also using a "Netzclub" SIM which gives me 100 MB per month free. I can still navigate with the 32 KBits cap after that, and I rarely use the full 100 MB. May sound impossible for a "normal" user.
I too have never had a smart phone. Bought my current phone for about €50 and spend less than €1 on calls and text-messages. Hard to find good feature phones, I have had my eyes opened for a new one.
I see the term "dumb phone" a lot in this thread, as a contrast to "smart phone". I have an issue with this, as all cell phones and computer are equally dumb. They can only do what they are told.
>if you don't feel you need a smartphone, it's because you never leave your house.
Is texting/calling not enough to set up social events? Let me guess... You have to make some stupid group RSVP on Facebook?
For the most part I agree with you, but I keep my data plan around for those times I'm at a thrift store and want to google shit
I pay $45/mo for unlimited call/text/data
>Hard to find good feature phones, I have had my eyes opened for a new one.
Phone providers have gradually scrubbed off features from dumbphones to steer people towards more lucrative smartphone data plans. I used to have the Verizon LG enV3 and loved it. Can't find feature phones that nice anymore.
Yeah, I'm actually getting pretty sick of charging my phone every single day.
But the point is you don't even need to do that at all while you're out. Embrace what you're doing instead of wasting time on a device.
holy fuck in australia you'd have to pay over 100 for unlimited data and the speeds are surely in the single digits.
i dropped my phone, cracked screen, makes me look poor so i stopped using it.
if you want to communicate use messenger.com so avoid facebook cancer
Yeah we get ripped off hard in Australia.
Yeah but it's a giant phablet phone.
>during idle moments
And you're literally what makes the problem worse. Why do you need to look at your screen every time you're not doing something? Just look at your surroundings. I'm not a luddite, but jesus christ, we didn't do this about 7 or 8 years ago.
I'm just joining the thread and I can't be assed to read the ones behind mine, but what's the problem exactly?
>we didn't do this about seven or eight years ago
Well no shit!
Did I say there was anything wrong with that?
Because the whole notion of having to look at a digital display almost all of the time is ridiculous. Just look at the fucking pathetic normies around you, absorbing absolute bullshit through their screen, absolutely oblivious of the world around them.
>Because the whole notion of having to look at a digital display almost all of the time is ridiculous.
"all the time" is a massive overstatement and generalization. Also, ridiculous how?
>Just look at the fucking pathetic normies around you, absorbing absolute bullshit through their screen, absolutely oblivious of the world around them.
How do you know it's absolute bullshit?
What makes that absolute bullshit any less bullshit than the absolute bullshit going in around them?
I understand where you're coming from, but your arguments have absolutely no grounding. Your unnecessarily romanticizing your own views. You just seem kinda jaded.
>overstatement and generalization
Of course it is, but it's not without basis. Just look at people around you, At least half of them are too busy staring at their screens to see what's going on around them. I don't think this is everyone, but it's definitely becoming worse and worse, not to mention the more it's "accepted" the more people will think it's okay to do it.
Depends on what kind of job you have. If you're texting people all the time, need to keep track of multiple accounts and whatever, you have no idea how much easier it all makes it. I'm on the phone constantly with people at my job.
I'm an Army officer, so, you know, FML. Army wants to be your entire life. A lot of high-powered civilian jobs are like that too, but they get paid a fuck-ton more than I do for less effort.
It's not just jobs that require you to be on call. Also, if you're at work for long hours, you need to manage shit without a computer that you really can't/shouldn't do on a work computer.
Why can't you complain about? Or at the very least question it. Employees regardless of their job shouldn't be required to work outside of their designated working hours.
>What's wrong with it
Why do you need to be looking at your phone ALL of the time? Why? Give me proper reasons as to why you *need* to. Keyword being need, not want.
Because that's how the military works. You know, deployments at all. And the attitude that you're supposed to have is you're a soldier (and in my case, leader) 24/7, and everyone is salaried in the military, so if thy really wanted to they could make you work constantly.
Browsing anything on a smartphone gets irritating. I know people that only own a phone and no computer. I don't know how they do it.
That's ridiculous. Especially if you're not even deployed somewhere.
There you go again with your overstatements. Of course I'm not on it ALL the time and I don't NEED to. However, let's say I'm in a line or on the bus or whatever. I could look at stuff around me, or I could look at something on my phone. Chances are, whatever's on my phone is vastly more interesting and "worth looking at."
Phones exist in real life too, did you forget?
Obviously that's not what you mean though, so:
Why is real life, even in its most static state, something that deserves my attention over any other thing?
Stop unrealistically idealizing things.
>Bullshit. People still talk to strangers, you're just too attached to your phone to see it. Also
>drunks and prostitutes
>I don't live in a shit hole faggot, I live in a great suburb. Most people at bus stops are hot chicks and business people.
You don't live in a shithole, yet your post implies you're American. Pick one. Only there do people think it's acceptable to talk to fucking strangers. It isn't. It's fucking rude.
>It's fucking rude to talk to strangers
What are you Swedish faggot? I hear those cunts don't like to be interrupted with their already boring lives. People talk to strangers all the fucking time. Just because you're an angry introverted faggot doesn't mean everyone else is.
You think that I should look at the passing scenery, and the girl reading a magazine, and the guy sleeping across from me on the bus instead? The internet provides instant access to unimaginable amounts of information, and yet all of that is less interesting?
This is a textbook "back in my day" type fallacy. You're incredibly narrow minded, anon.
>Why is real life, even in its most static state, something that deserves my attention over any other thing?
It's not healthy to have a cure for boredom in your pocket. Being bored is an emotional state which people are meant to feel from time to time.
I'm not even 25 yet faggot. You're just so hooked and in denial about your smart phone dependency you have no other way of looking at the world. Trust me, I used to be just as addicted as yourself, and it's pretty sad.
>You think that I should look at the passing scenery, and the girl reading a magazine, and the guy sleeping across from me on the bus instead? The internet provides instant access to unimaginable amounts of information, and yet all of that is less interesting?
It seems you feel entitled to being entertained...
I take in my surroundings. Observe other people, think about things, listen to music, just in general, lay back and think.
Better then wasting time on social media and what not.
You literally just admitted to projecting your personal experiences onto others. Even you can tell that that's wrong, right?
You saying I don't feel boredom?
Is anyone entitled to anything? That's irrelevant, regardless.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you and don't think people are generally doing enriching things with their phones, but standing around doing nothing is even more stagnating, it isn't like they are buddhists trying to free themselves of desire.
At least I can admit it faggot.
Yeah, but I find it more enriching to take in my surroundings then read something that's not even interesting on the internet. Strangely enough it took me a while to realize everything I was reading was only temporary and not even going to effect my life in any way shape or form.
I don't think comparing a book and a smartphone is in any way astute.
You generally aren't going to know the contents of the book or what they are doing on the phone, so there is no way to know.
I'll spend a few minutes catching up on news feeds or reading articles but I can only do that for so long before it becomes boring, I prefer to put my device away and occupy myself in other ways. I think people that continue to use a phone long past any actual stimulating or enjoyable use into the anxious time killing territory are idiots.
I'm not projecting shit, I'm just defending something from your unwarranted, unfounded beliefs. Your arguments have no substance whatsoever, and you're dogmatically ignorant and closed-minded.
From what I see all the time, most idiots are wasting it power scrolling through Facebook or Instagram. That or shitty pictures on snapchat.
Agreed. I think a few minutes of looking is fine, but if you spend your entire bus trip looking at your phone, then you've got some issues (which is most people these days)
>standing around doing nothing is even more stagnating
You mean standing around, actually being forced to produce original thoughts and ideas? People who habitually stare at their smartphones in public places are addicted to constant consumption of information.
Not to mention the information usually goes in one ear and out the other. It's all fleeting pieces of shit that no one cares about, that means nothing in real life, and will not help you in the future.
You're closed-minded for being unable to listen to points of view other than your own. You've latched onto an idea like a parasite, and are doing your best to force it down other's throats whole ignoring any sort of objections. You don't think you're right, you /know/ you're right, and that's what makes you the biggest idiot in the thread. You don't know shit, and neither do I, but at least I'm capable of understanding another point of view.
a smartphone isnt just a phone to me, it's my calendar (autosync across all my devices), alarm clock, work-out tracker, calorie tracker, music player, camera, remote control for lights in my house and a control for my tv, scanner and a lot more.
If you have a smartphone and "just" use it for calling and texting, you are objectively using your device wrong.
I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm arguing. My own views have nothing to do with what I'm saying. I noticed you spewing something you don't understand, and I tried to provoke you into saying something meaningful. Turns out you couldn't!
At the very least try and start looking at things from perspectives other than your own. Always question your own beliefs, and never discount someone else's. You've got a bit of maturing to do, anon.
I do question many things, but you know, we're both guilty of not wanting to agree with each other. Humans are always very defiant when they have something in their head that they believe is the only right answer. Humans want others to agree with them, we thrive on validation from others.
Just so you know, I do agree with you, with far more extreme implications. I just wanted to see if I could get you to pull your head out of your ass. A lot of people do like to stick to their convictions, but the best people admit to their own cluelessness.
I'll admit I can be guilty of that. I often admit my faults, but often I want to stick to my guns. No one likes to admit when they're wrong.
I still think their is an issue in society with smart phones. But obviously not everyone is like that, and you don't seem like you're like that. I'm sure you'll notice it more now though. Always seems to be the case.
Check out "Industrial Society and its Future." Easy to find essay online. It's a radical piece written by a terrorist, but it's a very good read. He makes a lot of points that I think might echo how you feel (how I feel, at the very least). Not about cell phones specifically, but about how modern society as a whole has a negative psychological effect.
I have a 2nd Gen Moto G on an old T-Mobile pay as you go plan that I've had forever, and I spend less than $10 a month on top ups. There's free wifi everywhere, so I have no need for a data plan to make use of it's features.
im not going to carry around an ipod, a mobile phone, a laptop, and a gps just because "hurr durr smartphone is devil" go back to your vinyl record player faggot
>im not going to carry around an ipod, a mobile phone, a laptop, and a gps just because "hurr durr smartphone is devil" go back to your vinyl record player faggot
Why would you need a laptop and gps? Is it that hard to look up directions before you leave the house, or just call someone for directions? Get some navigational skills, retard.
everyone pls answer my android question
can you update any device's version of android?
im finally buying a smartphone and i notice all the providers list the version as if its locked and thus will be dated/less options, but then i see other sites saying you can simply go to the about screen and update the versions simlar to linux distro updates
what exactly limits the versions, is it merely memory(does SD cards work with the OS install?)
or are there legit hardware limitations that cant run later versions
I'm 24 and on the same boat.
I don't really see a point on such devices, I get dizzy if I read while on the bus, and if I'm somewhere I'm doing doing something, not idle.
It really annoys me when you go out with someone and they spend 20% of the the time looking at their phones. I usually flip their phones and tell them to go home if I'm boring them.
How are people this uninformed about pricing of cellular plans? Do people really not know about prepaid plans that cost anywhere from $20-$40 for unlimited talk, text, and data (although data is usually on a speed cap after 2-5GB).
Stop searching for plans on big names like Verizon and AT&T and check out service quality of T-Mobile or Cricket (which uses AT&T towers) in your area, if they have good service you're looking at cheap $30/month prepaid plans and you can use any unlocked smartphone on them because gsm sim card master race.
Cricket can be as cheap as $20 a month, great overall coverage, capped data speeds at 10 Mbps (plenty for anything really)
T-Mobile can be as cheap as $30 a month, their LTE is fast as shit (50-60 Mbps down in many areas), go for them if its got good service in your area.
Seriously get with the fucking times and do some god damn research. Expensive 2 year contracts and cdmaids are for retards, don't get scammed into that shit.
Why bother with a smartphone when a tablet does the same thing at a cheaper price? 30$ a month is wasteful
Pocket media device? Chinese unlocked smartphones with dual cores are cheap and can play lots and lots of emulators