Look at this. Look at what YOU, the chosen people, have allowed to happen. Indeed, from the smouldering ashes of SOPA & PIPA has arisen a new Daemon, one so strong and so overbearing that not even the proud forces of GNU/EFF cannot injure it.
Have you not any shame? Your reliance on proprietary software and the money you freely let corporations take from you have led to this. Has the Way of GNU not taught you anything about self-sufficiency? Truly, you have strayed from the Path.
Reflect on your actions and await your impending doom. We tried to warn you, but your self-absorbed minds simply could not comprehend the wisdom in Our words.
Take your semen-soaked sob story over to Facebook and Plebbit.
No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in. It requires everyone actually understanding for themselves and then there would have to be some sort of uprising. Of course this relies of people not being ignorant and actually taking charge of their own lives so yeah, it's too late. See you on the other side.
Well this is a corporate agreement. Basically what happens is corporations come together to agree on what laws they'd like, then they hand a big sheet of laws to governments and say "If you don't sign this our businesses will die and thousands and millions of jobs will be lost and the economy will be ruin and blood will rain from the sky and we'll pull our campaign financing and we'll tell everyone you're a pedo"
>tfw free software lost
I just want to kill myself tbh.
I seriously thought there was a chance, but the corporations hijacked freedom and turned it into "open core."
may St. iGNUcious have mercy on our souls.
>and there's people high up in corporations who are also in government anyway.
That's putting it a bit simply. They aren't corporation and government at the same time.
Those in government get really cushy jobs (Which is essentially a 'turn up once a month for $200k a year) for them lined up after their term ends and those in corporation are hired for their 'expertise' in the industry in regulatory bodies, and corporate funded politicians get elected. Money circlejerk.
>TPP is bad because this article says so.
Can you shed some more light on the matter, Anon?
>HURR DURR READ THE ARTICLE
But I already did that, Anon
>YOU ARE EITHER A TROLL OR A RETARD. FUCK OFF!!!11
>babby so desperate for a spoonfeeding he's gonna shitpost the thread
Somewhere in the article there's a provision for criminalizing cropping watermarks from images used under fair-use even with proper crediting. Lets see if you can find where.
If you can't articulate your ideas they are useless.
See, that's precisely the pointless shit I am talking about. This has absolutely 0 impact on normal people, let alone the people on 4chan/g/.
>See, that's precisely the pointless shit I am talking about. This has absolutely 0 impact on normal people, let alone the people on 4chan/g
Retard confirmed. Move along everyone.
Oh they'll waste everyone's time and resources doing so. It's most likely to be used to attack dissidents. Not even political ones but people against certain corporations or products.
Talk to your country's equivalent of local federal government representative to see where they stand on TPP. Organize/participate in a peaceful protest. Spread word about the issues at hand.
>Ban on Circumventing Digital Rights Management (DRM)
i dont fucking care because i live in the real world. the chances of anything actually changing are slim
fuck off children and go back to reddit where everyone will jerk each other off to MUH TPP MUH SOPA
Right like how the trade agreements in the 90s didn't change anything.
Well since you're ignorant; these trade agreements moved factories to china. That didn't change anything at all!
What happened to you happens to hundreds of people a year. What you did is win the lottery. Does no-one win the lottery? Someone does.
Doesn't mean you're going to go jumping out in traffic.
Oh, miracles only happen once?
Things will change for other countries but not for the US.
The US already has all of those provisions as law. And the pact requires each country to pass their own criminal penalties so it will probably never happen.
Clearly went way over your head. It can be enforced, and will be if needed. Yes they don't currently have the resources to bust down your door for one illegal download, however all this information gathering means all that needs to happen is in the future you merely come under suspicion of something. They can then go back though everything you've ever said, see who you've communicated with, see all your ISP information, see exactly where you've been and when and with who and then simply paint you however they wish. They own you.
I'm just concerned that you've lost touch with reality.
Assuming everyone is mad at you is your mental illness at this point- I've figured it out.
People don't actually hate you automatically, you just look at them and assume they are.
What the fuck is going on here? Are you high on euphoria, guys?
hows the tpp gonna clash with europes interests?
germany abolished software patents alltogether for example. making copies of software you own is fine too. even most rightsholders dont go after pirates but the distributers and no one even cares if you pirate unless you seed unreasonable ammounts of data.
Only thing in the article I can see remotely being abused that way is the shit related to DRM, but that would require manufacturers to start slapping a ton of DRM on every new device made so you wouldn't be able to install your own software, which is something manufacturers could already do to piss people off today, yet it isn't done (or at least not widespread enough to be an actual threat).
SIMPLE EXPLANATION OF TPP ACCORDING TO THE ARTICLE. I HAVE NOT THE TREATY ITSELF BECAUSE I'M NOT A LAWYER. I'M A CONCERNED SHITPOSTER AND AMATEUR PROGRAMMER.
>Rightsholders gain more rights, soft rights for users
Rightsholding agencies acquire and hold rights to works. They make profit off of this, despite not doing shit. If you've heard of the parasite class, this is them. Almost all of the rules that protect rightsholding agencies are "binding", in other words, you are legally required to bend to them. The rights for users are "soft", they're empty promises made to sate you.
>More copyright terms
It's going to take longer (I think, but I'm not really sure. The article is somewhat ambiguous to me on this) for a work to enter public domain. This is the least scary part actually.
>You may not circumvent DRM
So the usual way the creators of proprietary software protect their works is DRM. They rely on it to keep you from illegally copying their works. This clause might reduce DRM, because now you can be charged simply for messing with the DRM component of a piece of software. In other words, if you remove DRM from a game to make it run better, you can be charged with a crime, have your computer seized, and actually get jail time for this. You also can't remove rights management information. The weird thing about this is that it kind of assumes we're still in the software as a product means of design. Many large companies have switched to software as service because of the cloud.
>They can seize your computer if you use it for anything bad-wrong
Exactly what it sounds like. Not only are you liable, so is your PC apparently.
>No protection for whistleblowers
Trade secrets are secret now. If you gain access to them, and release them as a journalist or a whistleblower, you're a criminal now.
>Your contact info for country code top level domains must be visible, and your domain name holder can enforce that.
>ISPs are required to comply with DMCA notices.
>mfw I just got a seedbox to get past university torrent block
>mfw this bill doesn't concern me at all and only poorfags
Long live TPP
Soon Canadians and Australians will get a chance to experience America's "healthcare system" too!
Prescription drugs will skyrocket to 5000% normal price and generic drugs will become illegal for a decade or longer so drug companies can get as much profit as possible. It's a glorious day to be a scumbag billionaire piece of human filth.
If they were at all serious about enforcing then it very well could. It could in fact be used to justify removing any website that allows users to upload content. It obviously wont be used to target youtube though because that would affect far too many people and draw a lot of negative attention to these stupid laws. It will just be used to go after smaller video sharing sites and youtube will continue to use their content ID shit to take down videos people report.
No youtube will get worse. Just about every pro nazi video is banned in germany and several other videos. Take downs are still happening by the content providers and you see that today. It will only get worse from here on out.
That is the content ID system, google/youtube "voluntarily" set that up to please copyright holders. TPP wont affect that system google might change the filters but copyright holders wont ever have youtube completely removed from the internet because there will be a fuckload of backlash.
All of this cringeworthy manchild whining, I can attest to the fact that the majority of people complaining like little mouthbreathing babies do so on the basis of preserving their ability to steal and copy software, effectively hurting the software industry which relies on profits to continue pushing out good software in a timely manner. This is akin to legalizing theft.
If you're worried about other implications regarding Intellectual Property, in the case of memes or image macros, why the fuck don't you make your own content instead of stealing from others? Because stealing is easier than creating, I suppose.
You're just as retarded as the ad blocking crowd who steals content which was only possible by the introduction of the ads business model on the Internet, it's like going on a bus ride without paying for your ticket, or having dinner in a restaurant without paying, while thinking that it is perfectly acceptable.
Since you're all going on an anti ad crusade, there's got to be new ways of monetizing the Internet so that it benefits everyone, and the TPP was created for that sole reason, lack of regulations of IP and the internet tends to hurt businesses greatly when there are no checks on the population, look at India and pretty much the rest of the third world, they all use pirated software.
One thing is certain, IP must be treated fairly on the Internet, just like we do in real life, and rule of law will see to this, whether you agree to it or not, as this benefits current and future businesses which will thrive on the Internet.
You're willfully ignoring the horrible impact TPP threatens to have on creative industries. Case and point: piezoelectric technology. First developed in the US but only really took off in Japan because firms were willing to share information about it. In the US, companies jealously guarded 'trade secrets' and got nowhere. Now picture that, but about everything.
tl;dr you're the kind of person ruining America and now the world
>IP must be treated fairly on the Internet
It's already being treated fairly. IP can be copied to infinity-1 so the value of it should be basically worthless if we're to believe in supply and demand. IP is worthless, material goods made from IP has value.
The TPP is basically the same as copyright law that existed in the US since the 90s. It's main purpose is to put those same laws in place in eastern countries like Vietnam.
For the most part yes but it also applies those laws to countries like Canada, Australia, Japan, and New Zealand and it also changes the patent laws. If you need cheap generic drugs and you live in one of those countries you should be worried because America's pharmaceutical companies are going to fuck your laws up.
As far as ads - then put up pay walls. It's a crazy concept when you go out and pick up a physical newspaper. You actually have to pay for it. No shit?
I block all ads except for those sites I feel deserve the ad revenue and I choose to support (4chan and a few others).
Most original, quality content is already behind paywalls to some extent for that very reason. The rest is a copy of a copy of a copy that has been regurgitated for ad revenue. We all know it and treat it as such. Too bad, so sad. Go find a real career that actually contributes something to society if that's how you feed your family, loser.
Nothing changes for drugs that are already generic. The only thing that changes is that new drugs have a greater time before they become generic in some countries, but in America, it actually shortens the current 12 year period.
So americans can get cheaper medication faster.
Every country except canada (notice and notice system allowed) and chile (court ordered required).
If someone sends a troll notice to your ISP, they are legally required to pretend it's entirely legit and to act upon it by killing your access and forwarding what they have on you to the proper authorities.
I'm really against TPP and this would be a major point to viral this shit on the internet and gain followers, you'd better give me source on that one, please.
All that was needed to prevent this all from happening is for google to replace their front page with a video about how bad TPP is, for a single day.
They can afford it. They're google. Every single internet and paper publication, every single news channel, and every forum would be talking about it. It would be completely unavoidable. If you talk about anything like this enough even normals would care.
Google could have saved the world.
I didn't either. The final remaining candidates are always pieces of shit and almost equally bad. All the good ones get weeded out along the way because corporations and media do their best to silence them. They are given lowest possible priority in debates, very little screentime, and slandered openly by "journalists".
Then when it comes time for a critical vote, it's always in some shitty backwards ass state like Iowa where no one who matters gets to vote.
>Your contact info for country code top level domains must be visible, and your domain name holder can enforce that.
This has been like that for German domains for quite some time now, and not a single registrar nor DENIC actually care enough to enforce it, so this is pretty much a non-issue.
We also can stop this by spreading >>50762914
To dumb applefags, we already did it with the ios update that made iphones waterproof, with the difference that this time is a real thing
Nice comeback, retard.
Next time use your fucking brain.
Google don't want this shit to pass, so the question is why are they letting it.
Well, since they fucked over SOPA i bet the US Government (the ones pushing this shit) weren't happy with them. So google are probably tied up and can't do shit.
Europe is getting their own version of it. It will have European things that throw you in jail like talking bad about the government and saying anything bad about the refugees. Oh wait we already have that.
Google doesn't want to be an ISP. Google has openly said WE DO NOT WANT TO BE AN ISP.
They only became an ISP to push other ISPs from being complete shit. So far it hasn't worked.
Just do it short and simple and super normie friendly.
Example, a couple takes a selfie in front of a cinema, the picture includes copyrigted movie posters and even maybe a copyrighted movie trailer displayed in a LCD screen, that under the current TPP could get their phone seized?
Would the modern day populace of big first world countries even be capable of revolting if shit gets too out of hand?
65 years ago people would have been flipping their shit at this kind of stuff
Interesting, because I'm German and haven't heard about this.
Maybe the anon from /pol/ got it from one of the more /pol/-centered websites that like to... enhance their news a bit?
In theory, yes. They could seize 90% of consumer hardware with user data if they want, this shit is more dangerous than we can even imagine, they can make disappear whatever kind of proof they don't like
He hasn't yet been sentenced and his post wasn't "something bad about the refugee crisis", his post was literally "This isn't a tragedy, this is a reason for celebration!" as a comment under the picture of that dead syrian child on the beach.
That's hate-speech, plain and simple.
The US govt.. wow. Corporations ARE the US govt now hiding behind disposable targets (politicians). Google is one of them. The 'do no evil' days are over and have been for a number of years now. They're just an arm or leg on the same monster now. The rest of this is just an exercise in PR and how much we'll accept. In small doses, over and over again.
Are you fucking 15 or just blissfully ignorant of reality? Jesus. Just gtfo.
>He is, however, encouraging people to not grief the death of an immigrant child, but to celebrate it instead.
So? I see nothing wrong with it. He can celebrate whatever the fuck he wants.
>hate speech is a crime in his country
In America, hate crime is only tacked on as an additional offense and never the primary charge.
Enjoy your no freedom.
You're not even free enough to be an edgy adult.
Hate crimes and hate speech aren't the same thing. America doesn't recognize hate speech as a legitimate concept there are no hate speech laws here the only speech that isn't considered protected is speech that can incite violence or unrest or direct threats.
So when does this shit go into effect?
It has to be ratified by the member countries first. How long that takes depends on the government in each one. In America it has to be visible to the public for like 60 days before congress is allowed to vote on it
Bump. I can't believe so many normies are complacent or just plain don't know about this.
>t's like going on a bus ride without paying for your ticket, or having dinner in a restaurant without paying, while thinking that it is perfectly acceptabl
No it's more like buying a VHS movie or Renting one or whatever and fast forwarding through the ads at the beginning
looks like germany might not be part of this madness.
people are fucking angry and even politicians dont want to yield more power to corporations and outside interests.
merkels support is dwindeling and over half the german populace is now against the "refugees".
if germany turns away from the TTIP. it will force other european nations to do the same.
after that time will tell of the TPP or europes way is better.
if europes economy stays strong and independant in this. i can see TPP countries rioting for privacy and corporate independance.
even the biggest normie will get angry when he suddenly has to pay 3 bucks for his milk instead of 1