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>people are allowed to have children if they want whenever they want with whomever they want as much as they want

when will they realize this probably isn't the best idea and institute sensible eugenics?
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>>1923598
Humans, when given power over others, usually are dicks. Reproduction is a quite basic human right, and as such there is no substantial reason in a pre genetic engineering era to restrict it more than absolutely necessary.
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Why do you assume nature itself isn't practicing eugenics?

Women won't fuck and have kids with anyone you know.
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>>1923598

Because we aren't rabbits and most people don't want to have more than 1 or 2 kids.

Im sure if condoms weren't shit, birth rates would halve.

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Explain yourselves
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There are plenty of imbeciles
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>>1923557
>implying STEMlords do not apply their autismo to philosophical questions
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>>1923557
Nice contrast faggot

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Why people used round shields instead of going straight to kite shields? Lmao people in the middle ages were fucking retarded why it took them so long to figure out you should protect your legs as well?
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A round shield is easier to make and structurally sound.
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>>1923247
So you can use the bottom tip to strike people.
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>>1923253
>making a longer shield was too hard for medieval apes

lmao truly muh ancestors were people worth venerating

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Why is there such a disagreement about who the best general in human history was?

(Strategy and Tactics both count)

1. Alexander of Macedon
2. Sebudai
3. Napoleon
4. Ibn-al-Walid
5. Hannibal

This is literally, objectively, and provably the top 5 list.
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It is hard to know because you are comparing people from different eras, who used different technologies and faced different enemies.

How do you compare Erich von Manstein with Oda Nobunaga?
Alexander the Great with Wellington? Wellington faced better generals than Alexander did.

And then, there is the fact that we know very little about Chinese and Indian history. How do you compare Scipio Africanus with Wang Jian?
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>>1923245

>This is literally, objectively, and provably the top 5 list.

no
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>>1923263
Scipio was a general that was purely reactionary to Hannibal. He had very little ambition.

This list is objective. If you take all the generals in history, gave them the same army and had a tourney, these are the top 5.

>>1923265
Go watch another top 10 generals list, pleb

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Hey, /his/, a certain African country has caught my attention, this being Ethiopia.
I've read about its History for a little bit now, and there's just one thing that strikes me as an unfortunate turn of events for the little country.
Before Italian takeover of the lands, I know that it was Independent, and I think the only/one of the only African countries to avoid colonization, while still maintaining somewhat "modern" standards of living, by the European ideology of the time.

My question is, /his/, where did it all go wrong?
What exactly...
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>where did it all go wrong?
Communism
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>>1923277
Nah. it was opening to the world. Haile Selassie tried to modernize his country. That meant he needed to send young men abroad. These guys brought back ne ideas and saw how backwards Ethiopia was compared to the ROTW. The men he furthered were the men who ended his reign. It 's a miracle he came out of the first two coups.
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>>1923209
It was the Soviet Union's influence, ruining everything as usual.

Was George Washington the biggest alpha of all time?
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>>1923094
Yeah, why?
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>General Runaway
>alpha
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>Americans
>Alpha

How do you cope with the fact that everything is phony (inb4 dismissed for being like Holden)?

Literary theory is bs made up so that people can leech off of academia and get easy degrees.

Social scientists are idiots and weaponised by dishonest journalists as the new secular prophets telling people what to think / why they're shit.

Morality is never practised. A politician who kills innocent people is more popular than one who says politically incorrect things.

So many current novels are merely narcissistic barely disguised memoirs or written...
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>>1923082
welcome to earth
we hope you enjoy your stay
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Go for a walk bro
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>>1923082
>firts 2
Agreed.

>moralty
True, but politics was alwys a shitfest. Compared to historic rulers modern politicians actually kill very few people, if any.

>novels
The wast majority of art ever produced is crap and is forgotten in a decade.

>science and math
U wot? They are some of the only marketable fields that can get private
Investments.

Is secularism inherently anti-religion?
Is the end goal of secularists to eradicate religion from public and then, slowly, from private life?
Are "religious secularists" just useful idiots for the eradication of religion?

Is vid related the end result of secularism?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bWHSpmXEJs

Will the Orthodox Church succumb to liberal secular humanism, like the Catholics and Protestants in the West did?
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>>1923024
no

orthodox will be doing the same shit for another quintillion years
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Yes, and I say this as somebody who used to be a secularist and still is to some extent.

Just look at India, constantly watering down their way of life for minorities.
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Don't most if not all religions openly or secretly wish for other religions to disappear? Secularism is the practice of keeping the state and religious organisations separate. Breaking into people's homes and shooting them for praying in secret is not an inherent part of secularism. A religious state is just as capable of terrorising its citizens as a secular one, because oppressive regimes tend to pick whatever ideological justification is the most appropriate at the moment.

What are you, some dunce who bought into conservative propaganda?

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>A flag, he said, was "a rag to be planted on a dunghill," and he declared that the Patria, like God, was "a spook... vindictive, cruel, and tyrannical".

Could he be our guy?
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> “Just observe the nation that is defended by devoted patriots. The patriots fall in bloody battle or in the fight with hunger and want; what does the nation care for that? By the manure of their corpses the nation comes to "its bloom"! The individuals have died "for the great cause of the nation," and the nation sends some words of thanks after them and - has the profit of it. I call that a paying kind of egoism.”

Just look at that smug face
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>>1922936

>not Napoleon Bonaparte

>choosing a Cuck and a faggot who got killed by the people he ruled over

Nigga please
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>>1922936
>"a spook"
Was Mussolini the original Stirner poster?

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Alright, let's clear this up.

Since I was young, I have heard of the greatness of the founding fathers, I know next to nothing about them so help me out.

How much of this is American revisionism?

Were they really all good or were some of them corrupt?

Was George Washington really a good general?

Was there a rivalry between them about who should run things? What kind of men were they? Were they upper class?

How did the citizens view them at the time? I know a lot of citizens had read common sense by Thomas Paine.
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>>1922894
>How much of this is American revisionism?

Contrary to what the children on /his/ often say, "revisionism" doesn't mean "lying," it just means reevaluating the narrative. But to answer your real question, yes, American culture mythologized its "founding fathers" into greater than human status, to try forge a common culture from scratch. They were just people.

>Were they really all good or were some of them corrupt?

I...
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lets just say if the civil war never happened, the shit they came up with would've been perfect.
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>>1922894
They were people. Incredible people certainly but still people. They had their flaws.

>How much is revisionism
Quite a bit. Americans have this kind of weird shinto thing going on with the founding fathers that probably would horrify them if they knew.

>Was Washington a good general
Solid leader, meh general.

>Was there a rivalry between them
Man you really should read some of the shit they...
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Honestly, what did Nero do wrong?
I'm not extremely versed on Roman history, but from what I read all he did was castrate a boy and make him his wife (this is a good thing), send somebody to tell his mother he hated her for some reason, play a musical instrument while Rome burned, and disliked Christians lots. The rest seems to be strictly propaganda by the elites since he did so well with the common people.

Is Nero actually bad at all? I don't understand.
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>>1922833
He was unpopular for a reason and if there's anything he did wrong it was completely misread what the Roman people wanted, and as a leader that's simply not something you can do and expect to get away with forever.

He wasnt as cruel as Caligula but he also mismanaged resources and spent lavishly on himself just as much.

I think what people don't really understand is the fact that Nero, and Caligula for that matter, were still basically kids when they became emperors. Caligula was the...
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Hoooh boy. He murdered his mother, murdered his first wife to marry his lover, generally displayed the qualities most hated by a Roman. He likely wasn't playing a fiddle as Rome Burned, but he did proceed to buy out the burned down homes of the poor to build a giant golden palace for himself, rather than using that money to rebuild for others. He tried to convince everyone that the christians burned the city, and he punished them to prove that. He punished them far too harshly, and many romans could not suffer the cruelty of it.

He was a hedonist and a cruel one...
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>>1923023
Well to be fair he did rebuild most of Rome and expand it a little and build everything out of brick instead of wood and implemented many anti-fire measures and some historians believe the the domus aurea was also for public use or at least some segments of it were

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Does anyone actually subscribe to this guy's teachings, or is it all memeing to get a rise out of others?
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>>1922724
moral anti-realism is wrong and property rights exist so that is why I don't listen to him.
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>>1922729
sorry, "listen to him" is the wrong way of putting it. Those are the reasons why I don't subscribe to what he wrote.
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>>1922724
Realizing that I was primarily motivated by spooks and not what I valued internally was a huge transition for me.a

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Was he really Russia's greatest love machine?
Or was he just a cat that really was gone?
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>>1922489
I remember reading in Richard Pipes book that syphilis and alcoholism had left him impotent.
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There lived a certain man in Russia long ago
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>>1922505
He was big and strong, in his eyes a flaming glow

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A province of approximately the size of provinces in this map, is the largest territorial unit that can still support a government that still cares about its people, their cultural, religious, intellectual, etc. life, and can still handle affairs on a somewhat human level, not a mass level (that dehumanizes by default).

This size is still understandable to both the common people and the people in power, and fragmenting countries into a sort of a loose federation of provinces with a reasonable level of autonomy, paired with limited or at least non-instant communication...
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Governments shouldn't be handling things at all except to maintain an army that keeps out other armies
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Wow those are giant people. How could they even build a house in their province?
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>>1922368
isn't it kind of like how things work now anyway?

people underestimate just how much power their local governments have over their lives compared to national ones. even shit like a HOA has more direct influence over my life than who ends up in the white house.

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Since our world leaders believe in Moloch and unironically sacrifice to and worship this figure...

doesnt that support he might be real?

"with fingers crossed, the old rabbit foot out of the foot of the attic, I will be sacrificing a Chicken in the backyard to Moloch"

Sherill D LITERALLY SAID THOSE WORDS IN A EMAIL

Dont make this about polotics keep the discussion about the fucking owl demon thing
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Just autistic Jews.
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>>1922364
of course evil is real
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>>1922364
>doesnt that support he might be real?
Just because you believe in something doesn't mean it's real.

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Is America a patriarchy? Fair reasoablr discussion only please. That means fuck off /pol/
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>>1922300
Yes.

Anyone who says no is a sexist bigotted little shit.
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>>1922222
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>>1922300
In that most of the people in charge are men, and that there are certain cultural norms that favor men, sure.

Doesn't make the tumblr bullshit any more desirable, just that a few of their grievances have some basis in reality

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Why didn't George Washington crown himself king?
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>>1922108
He didn't need to. He was George Washing-done
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>>1922108
Because he believed in what his men were fighting for.
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>>1922108
Cause he opposed that. Think there was a war about it or something. Not too sure my BCE history is bad

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What the fuck was his problem?
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The
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Was his problem. Also the 'tism. Also he couldn't check 'em like me.
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What exactly is the point of these threads?
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>>1922109
where do you think we are?
maybe /r/askhistorians is more up your alley

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ITT:Psychopaths.
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more like misunderstood genius
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>>1921975
Count me in guys
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>Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin is alleged to have had a double, identified only as "Rashid". Officials at the KGB allegedly learned that Rashid was a "double" for Stalin and employed him to replace Stalin for some public functions after World War II. Rashid spent two years studying with Alexei Dikiy, an actor who played the role of Stalin in propaganda films. Rashid claimed there were other Stalin lookalikes employed by the KGB, although he never met any. He claimed to have heard of another Stalin double who was hired to live in the...
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>>1921967

It's not really weird at all. I mean, do you actually think Clinton and Trump are still going out and giving speeches in person. They both have full-time body doubles by this point, with neither person ever actually leaving campaign headquarters.
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>>1921973
gb2 infowars
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I hetar Stalin utilized body doubles/actors as much as he could because he was a manlet and had a really bad case of crater face.

Greeks invent steam engine, and love making complicated machines. Don't make steam engines to power machines.

Later Rome makes a paddle wheel boat with a gear drive powered by ox. Rome is a Greekboo and should have known about the steam engine. No steam ships in the classical age.
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The Aeolipile didn't actually produce enough torque to do anything useful.

That said

>tfw Aurelian shut down the Museum of Alexandria
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>>1921933
it proved that fire and water could produce work.

if they had just kept at it.

even grecco-roman metallurgy could have produced a usable engine from bronze/brass/crude iron.
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>>1921990
No, it couldn't have. Life isn't civ, where you dump resources into the ""science bar"" and level up.

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Why the germans were so assholes?

They kill civilians in WW1.

>Rape of Belgium
>he bombardment of Scarborough.

They kill civilians in WW2.

>Volhynia massacre
>The Holocaust.

Why that people is so fuckin bad?!
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Cause they lost the propaganda war.
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An authoritarian ends-justify-the-means mentality. They figured if they won the war, it wouldn't matter what war crimes they committed en route.

The "if it works, it works" mentality runs strongly in China's leadership too, so hopefully they don't make good on their threats to take Taiwan or whatever by force.
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They pioneered the tactics now used by modern Social Justice Warriors.

>be a dick
>complain when people treat you like one

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Tell me about the Balkan Wars /his/
Was the Balkans to the late 19th and early 20th century what the Middle East is today?
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>>1921882
Imagine being Bulgaria: you are the most benefit country after the independence and have good posibilities to expand over your neighbours if you play good your cards. But you have zero diplomacy and lost everthing.

Seriously, how Germany didn't take note of this?
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>>1921882
How does Bulgaria fuck up this badly, what did they do to go from Balkan ally in the first one and then everyone's enemy in the next
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>>1921950
They wanted a bigger slice of the pie after the first one
Serbia and Greece said fuck that
Bulgaria vs Serbia and Greece
Turks and Romanians decide that they can attack Bulgaria to regain territory
I don't know about Mountainnegro

>squaw
>skwô
>noun offensive
>an American Indian woman or wife.
>NORTH AMERICAN offensive
>a woman or wife.

Has PC culture gone too far?
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i think so
to make things worse it's no longer the mid 90s PC but truly psychotic bullshit
fomenting a lot of hatred among the Cletus types
god speed Cletus I hope you kill them all
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>>1921865
squaw is hateful though, and is offensive.

>I can't lynch negros therefore I'M OPPRESSED!!!!!!!
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>>1922033
who are you memeing

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What war do you find the most interesting and why /his/?
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>>1921771
30 Years War, because of its importance of history and its devastation
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>>1921771
The central Asian wars of the late teen and early twenties in the wake of the Russian Revolution.

Mostly because they're so much like what's happening in the Middle East since the Arab Spring, but nobody in the political establishment notices the parallel.
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Pacific, Falklands, I´m an aeronavalboo

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Literally anything. I'm interested and all ears.
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>>1921712
What would have happened if Persia had blandaed up with Rome right when they were starting to decline?
could they have withstood the coming arab chimpening?
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>>1921739
they did team up when the muslims broke out of the arabian peninsula, but they were both exhausted by fighting a generation long war against each other immediately beforehand
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>>1921712
They have always called their country "Iran".
They have an odd friendship with Armenia.
They are descended from PIE people.

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>>1921627
Oil
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>>1921633
Pretty much this, even though they are still stuck socially in medieval times.
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>>1921627
What? US HDI is also high.

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Art History General

Where we discuss Art/Art History/Artists

This may not catch on so easily so I'll start with a simple question: Who is your favourite visual artist?
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Rate
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>>1921591
isn't it funny how pollock is immediately identifiable out of all abstract painting?
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>>1921609
Yea it is. Funny how they all look the same too

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Name one thing wrong with a real communism functioning the way it should (which hasn't been done yet).
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if it's not pro white male it's inherently anti white male

I'll pass
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people are prone to create hierarchies
people aren't equal
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>>1921510
When everyone receives what they need to live happily, why should anyone strive to improve, or even to be average. All they need is to be sufficient. Once sufficient becomes the new average, people who were once exemplary become lesser, and the state collapses.

I was a supporter of communism a few months ago, but I cannot get past this argument.

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Ok who killed the most? stalin or mao? I heard Mao killed 100 million.
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Mao killed more
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Being born has killed an estimated 100.8 billion according to college students making up statistics on blogs.
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>>1921346
>that stage in your life when you thought you knew it all
>filled with vigor and youthful energy
>this in turn fueled your pride and arrogance and strength to push others around
>world leaders never grow out of this phase and just keep the same philosophy as they proceed to murder millions for a stern handle on various financial markets and general leverage
>murder...
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