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Could we have a stay-behind/Gladio thread please?

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/11/16/world/evolution-in-europe-italy-discloses-its-web-of-cold-war-guerrillas.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXavNe81XdQ [Embed]

Resolution of the EU Parliament from 24.12.1990 Look up page 214

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:C:1990:324:FULL&from=DE
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>>1920045
Resolution:

The European Parliament.

A. having regard to the revelation by several European governments of the existence for 40 years of a clandestine intelligence and armed operations organization in several Member States of the Community,

B. whereas for over 40 years this organization has eluded all democratic controls and has been run by the secret services of the states concerned in collaboration with NATO.
C. fearing the danger that such clandestine networks may have interfered illegally...
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Great topic, unfortunately hardly anyone has ever heard of it.
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>>1920060
>>1920045

F. whereas the various 'GLADIO' organizations have at their disposal independent arsenals and military resources which give them an unknown strike potential, thereby jeopardizing the democratic structures of the countries in which they are operating or have been operating,

G. greatly concerned at the existence of decision-making and operational bodies which are not subject to any form of democratic control and are of a completely clandestine...
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>Battle of the Yellow Sea
>Russian and Japanese forces slug it out with no ships sunk, Russians even inflict more damage on Japanese fleet
>Battle of Tsushima
>Japanese totally rape Russian fleet
Can someone explain all the factors that caused Russians to fight so badly?
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Tsushima was a classic "crossing the T", google it.
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>>1919983
>2nd
>Pacific
>Squadron
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>>1920001
Yeah I know that but is it really possible that all the retards in Russian fleet at that time were concentrated in Baltic fleet?
It's was like two different navies.

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Statue unveiled next to the Kremlin. Already triggered western media reporting on how it's "controversial". The only controversy about it is the fact that he is shared as a patriarch by Ukraine as well.

Why are Ukrainians such agonizing individuals? Why can't they just accept the fact that they and Russians are brothers that share their history.
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pretty cool statue
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>>1919760
seems like a political play to appropriate more history under Moscow if anything
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>1015
>Russia
>Uraine

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> Hey guys, it's me your King... I mean Tzar! ;)
> Let's crown this guy, he looks totally legit! XD
I still can't believe that this shit actually worked.
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>>1919706
Russians are imbeciles and natural born slaves.

Pic rel should have happened. At least under pooland they would develop.
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I remember that Russia was pretty okay with that idea that, but King of Poland wanted to be King of Sweden instead and wasn't interested.
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>>1919706
>I still can't believe that this shit actually worked.

Dmitri wasn't just some random dude who pretended to be Tsar's lost heir. He actually did look very much like real Dmitri to the point that people who knew the real prince recognized him. He also had some knowledge about Russia's court life and noble families. Not much, but sufficiently enough to confirm that he spent at least some time as a child at the court in Moscow.

>>1919733

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Discuss this quote.
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>>1919692
Maybe he regrets the shock capitalism that made the early Federation so painful to the population


Maybe he thinks communism is defunct so another Soviet bloc would be counterproductive

Maybe he enjoys having oligarchs and killing them once in a while


Maybe this thread isn't /his/ and should be pruned
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>has no heart
>all those grannies lining up at shops for 5 hours just to buy a loaf of bread

ah, yes
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>>1919692
"It's normal to feel bad about things being different from when you grew up, but the Soviet Union sucked."

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“Almost everybody believes in God when they are children, and polls show the vast majority of adults continue to believe in God--although a distinct minority does not. It turns out that almost everyone goes through a period of questioning the existence of God, usually during their teen years. “Does God really exist?” we ask ourselves. It is obviously a very important question. IF you ever began to question the existence of the traditional God, to wonder--because of things that happened or doubts that arose in your mind--if this God really exists, HOW did you decide? Below...
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Define "God"
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not me, I disbelieved the concept of God since I was 5
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>>1919619
Maybe it's the way I was raised but faith is not a matter of logic. Faith is seeing every logical reason noto to believe and still believing anyway. If you could prove God is real then no would have faith they would just be acting in their own material benefit. I however lack faith.

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Explain how separation isn't an illusion if:

>You have been unilaterally dragged into existence
>You have been created independently by 'other' entities

How are you separate from anything in consciousness, matter - if this is true

I've taken too much LSD and I just can't shake this anymore, how the fuck does anyone explain this

It's either a complete delusion on my part
or "we" are just the universe experiencing itself
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GO easy lads this is my first rodeo
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>>1919372
What if you aren't?
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>>1919390
aren't what lad

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>last time they won, ottoman empire existed

more like this?
doesnt have to be present time
can be stuff like when america was discovered what were chinese busy with etc.
hope you get my drift
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>they
>implying it was the same actual team let alone the same actual sport

spectator sports are fucking retarded sorry
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>Martin Luther King Jr and Anne Frank were born in the same year (1929)

>The last time the guillotine was used to execute someone was in the same year that Star Wars first came out
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The Americas were discovered 39 years after the Byzantine Empire fell.

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Can you tell me why did women changed their names for marriage ?

For how long this has been around?
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Because patriarchy. Not even meming.
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>>1919180
>if you get divorced
>women anticipating divorce before even getting married

baka
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Also isn't it true that Spanish people tend to do hyphenated last names? I wonder why that caught on there

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Which countries are responsible for the first world war /his/ and why is it Russia and France ?
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Serbia should have just accept the ultimatum, but not they wanted blood.
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>>1919137
>why is it Russia and France ?
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>>1919137
Basically all of the major powers were expecting and suiting up for world war I, except none of them actually thought it would be a world war. So in a way of talking neglicence, they all are

Why did ancient Mesopotamians, the first settled agrarian people, wear clothes? If it was due to decency, where'd they get the concept of decency from?
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>>1918534
this is not /v/
fuck off
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>>1918534
Mesopotamian weren't the first settled agrarian people and weren't the first ones to wear clothes either
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>>1918534
Steps to answering your question:
1. Go outside, to your back yard, or somewhere else private where people won't disturb you
2. Strip naked.
3. Wait

Clothes are practical you moron. In hot climates they keep the sun from rendering your skin a red blanket of pain, and in cold climates they keep you from freezing to death. Humans don't have a specific environment they have to stick to, and this is specifically because of the fact that we have clothes.

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I am 100% sure this is a bunch of BS. Seeing a lot more of posts like this too, opinions?
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>>1918525
Also seen frequently on Instagram:
>Forbidden Knowledge
>Flat Earth Movement
>WE WERE KINGS IN PLACES WE WEREN'T EVEN AT
>memes
>whores
>fuccbois

Yes, it's shit.
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>>1918525
>niggers
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>>1918535
Indeed, this guys page specifically has a lot of cancerous posts like this, I seen other posters claiming people of history like "Tesla" claiming he was "really black" and bullshit like that

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>Master–slave morality is a central theme of Friedrich Nietzsche's works, in particular the first essay of On the Genealogy of Morality. Nietzsche argued that there were two fundamental types of morality: 'Master morality' and 'Slave morality'. Slave morality values things like kindness, humility, and sympathy, while master morality values pride, strength, and nobility. Master morality weighs actions on a scale of good or bad (i.e. classical virtues and vices) unlike slave morality which weighs actions on a scale of good or evil...
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Is something edgy necessarily bad?
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>>1918500
No, but where edginess comes from: merely contempt and conceit, can call the entire system into question over its legitimacy.
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You call yourself christian and even think about talking about Nietzsche works. Then you also choose a master-slave morality which christians always stayed away from and ask if the 21th century edge meme is real or not. And on top of all that you post a comic picture.

You literally beg to be not taken seriously.

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what can his tell me on the Circassians, it seems that there is very little info on them, where they just generic mountain dwellers ? From what i have seen they look less inbred and less dark than chechens and seem much less radical. im on my phone sorry for shitty op description
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>>1918303
As far as I know they are one of the many caucasian mountain peoples.
They are mostlyy muslim and during the russian occupation of the caucassus many of them emigrated to other parts of the ottoman empire and even now many of them live in turkey with many of them living in the north east.
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>>1918303
kavkaz (azeris, tats, dags armos, gurjis) are mostly gypsies

kirkizians of 200yrs ago may have been non-gypsy

tl;dr kavkazis r gyps
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>>1918303
Mudslims

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Which major will increase by ability to bantz?
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Psy
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the biggest bants I've ever experienced was at a mortician's conference.

Meanwhile any and all time I've spent at universities have been in the presence of thin-skinned self-important humorless academics.
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>>1918337
Makes sense, if your job involves being up close and personal with death everyday, nothing anyone can say will really phase you.

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>"It's time we mount the Pickett's Charge!
Seriously?
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>>1918269
>"Finally, after all these years,we have become World War I"
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>Chief Beria, the time has come. Execute the Great Purge.

Jesus Christ
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>"Now, it is time for us to establish the July Monarchy!"

What did he mean by this?

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I was raised completely without religion in my life. My parents taught me about religion as a thing that people do, and they taught me about science (my dad being a scientist) and how the world was formed. They always asked me to question what other people said, to not accept anything blindly. As a result, I never formed any sort of spiritual or religious beliefs.

For most of my life I've respected the right for religious people to hold whatever beliefs they may, but I truly have never understood them. I simply cannot fathom coming to a conclusion in which a god...
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>>1918239
One immortal person created everything. Thats it.
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>>1918239
Most of the most fundamental questions men have , have remained unanswered by science . Religion answers those that science cannot.

And what most people don't understand is that modern science and most religions overlap in what they believe, but not in some areas, like a venn diagram. For example buddhism can accept gravity. Also I understand your story is not a true one, just an ebin edgy atheist hypothetical.
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>>1918239
>Help me understand religion, /his/.

Its a belief system. You don't understand or know religion, you believe it.

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>"France? Republic? Lol what is this shit they'll collapse without a monarch. Let's go fuck em up to prove it."
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Yep we need Kim jong un
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>>1918218
I hope France is enjoying leftism taken to its fullest extent, bound to become Islamic within 30 years

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Why didn't Stalin just annex all these meme countries?
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Albania's bunkers were the most effective deterrence of the 20th century
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>>1917661
Do Albanians make sweet, sweet love in the bunkers?
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>>1917658
>these
>meme countries

>ussr
>not a meme "country"

kill yourself, maggot

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Who thought doing these near back-to-back was a good idea?
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Hitler & Mussolini
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>>1917472
fpbp
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They were allied to Japan so they had no choice

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Although blowing the whistle is often justified, it does involve dissent, accusation, and a breach of loyalty to the employer.

On the contrary, putting a stop to illegal or unethical company activities may be the highest type of loyalty an employee can display.

I would like to know your thoughts on this.
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why would you want to be loyal to an asshole
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>>1917442

>why would you want to be loyal to an asshole

$$$$$$
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>>1917442
They supply your source of income as well as the income of all that it hires. Blowing the whistle may cause everybody involved in the company to lose their job, which is a real concern.

At what point does the ethical issue outweigh the loyalty?

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Indiependence When?
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>>1917231
>In-die-pendence
I think there's your answer
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I think we should balcanize too. You up in your area, the northeast (Pennsylvania, New york) in ours, the south rotting in the confederacy.
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>>1917231
Fuck you New England. Your sports fans are the worst and the only noticeable people you make end up getting shot in Dallas. Everything northeast of New York should just go to Canada so they can be faggots there.

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What's their endgame?
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The day of reckoning.
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>>1916733
Crash this galaxy with no survivors.
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>>1916755
When we become intelligent enough - after genetic engineering or AI or maybe on our own we will realize that life is pointless. And we will follow the example of all the countless civilizations that never visited us and died out in the universe - we will commit voluntary extinction.

Why did we stop caring about aesthetics after WW2?
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>posts shitty socrealist painting
>"aesthetics"
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Rise of sterile utilitarian design
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>>1916523
aesthetic is not cheap

marry/kill/hug/fuck/watch Shrek with?
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I think it's pretty obvious that we're going to fuck the cripple.
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marry Carter
kill Clinton
hug Bush Sr.
fuck Obama
watch Shrek with Bush Jr.
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>>1916539
Don't know about the rest, but I'd definitely watch Shrek with Dubya. He seems like he'd be the most fun and have the most fun doing it.

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itc: we non americans post the american presidents we know and for what we know them


I'll start:

>george washington

1st president, leader of the revolutionary war

>thomas jefferson

He's related to writing laws or something?

>lincoln

Freed slaves

>teddy roosevelt

Macho man figure, wrestled bears

>woodrow wilson

Tried to keep US out of ww1


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>>1916440
pretty good for non american, heres some clarification.

Jefferson wrote the declaration of independence,

Teddy Roosevelt was also a very progressive president believe it or not,

Franklin Roosevelt developed atomic bomb but died before he could use it, Truman dropped the bomb

Eisenhower didnt do shit besides be president during America's golden age.

Nixon was a really popular president, if not for scandals Americans would say he top 10
presidents.

Bush number...
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>>1916440
Failipino here,
>George Washington
First Pres, Revolutionary War, Whiskey Rebellion.
>T. Jefferson
Founding father. One of them anyway.
>Andrew Jackson
Something about not liking banks. Prior to that, made a name in the 1812 War and Seminole Wars
>James Monroe
Monroe Doctrine established. America will forever be interested in meddling with random South American/Pacific affairs.

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GW
1st prez, stoic, something about teeth, never lied, revolution, had slaves
JA
[insert content of the brilliant John Adams miniseries as the source of my knowledge about him]
TJ
[apply above], indep. decl., very philosophical, fugged slaves :D:DD
JQA
son of JA
AL
acw, slaves
USG
acw general
TR
as op basically
WW
as op
FDR
as op, new deal, fear itself
HT
ww2, bombs, korea, containment
DE
ww2 vet, highways, military-industrial complex
JFK
space, assasination, cuba, kennedy family
RN
not a crook
GF
apparently...
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Could it have been reformed and survive to this day? Was collapse inevitable due to the ethnic makeup?
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>Ivan, we have ruined everything. Our state was so terrible it could not even be mercy killed. What will we do? Russia will be despised for this for as long as there is history!
>Vladimir, do not despair. We'll just blame the ethnicities!
>Ivan, yuo are genius.
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Revisionism killed the USSR and you're saying "Could it have been reformed and survive to this day?"

are you fucking retarded?
>>1916471
amerifat tier post
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it did reform. into russia.

in a communistish state? they should have learned from the norks and taken up juche.

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*blocks your path*
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>>1916281
"What are you gonna do, blind me!?"

- Quote from blinded Bulgar
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>>1916281
>tries to talk in latin for not speaking any greek
>get's laught at cause nobody unterstand my bad acient
>become New court jester
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>>1916412
+10000

Tell me about the russian civil war /his/.
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>When you post this on a commie board
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Something about defeating white russians, and there was those sailors who occupied one of those forts named Kronstad or something. That's all I know about the Russian Revolution
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Our guys lost.

How does a ragtag volunteer army in need of a shower somehow defeat a global superpower?
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>Get's practically ever historical fact wrong
>Still wins Tony's

How?
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>>1916201
Technically all historical facts are probably false
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>>1916197
How do we emerge victorious from the quagmire?>>1916201
That's not the next line, anon.


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