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Is it a bad or good thing?

Shifting from a sarcastic view of something to a sincere view?

I heard someone make the point that a lot of 4chan users are post-ironic fags.
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>>1894278
I can't think of any good examples at the moment but it seems to be a way that people are increasingly becoming more accepting of radical ideologies. It wouldn't surprise me if the same people as who as kids made "In Soviet Russia..." or antisemitic jokes are tankies or fascists now.

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Why aren't there any stories about witches and vampires from the ottoman empire?
Especially vampires which are found in slavic mythology.
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>>1894238
For the same reason the Chinese didn't have Vampires or Witches in its cultural mythology?
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Because all balkan people are considered witches and vampires, minus the Albanians, since they are considered to be reanimated ghouls with their disfigured appearances.
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>>1894256
Anon I'm serious while witch hunts were going in in europe shit like that never happened in the ottoman empire.

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My parents took me out of school in 3rd grade to "unschool" me more or less. They didn't think history was important for me to know.

I would like to know more history than what I have gleaned from pop culture now. What books would be a good place to start?
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>>1894225
Guns Germs and Steel
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o also prefer world history to just american history.
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>>1894225
Why didn't you kill your parents?

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ITT: Shit plebs say

>Justinian is my favourite Roman emperor
>Hitler was the most evil man ever
>Comics had a real impact on society in the early 20th century
>Without the Turing machine we would have lost WWII
>The atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were unjustified
>The fight over Israel between Palestinians and Jews goes back centuries
>Pharaohs...
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>Turks aren't the true successors of Rome
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>>1894221
>donating money to the church is wrong
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>The Catholic church held back scientific advancement in the middle ages

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Daily reminder that Nietzsche was redpilled on Islam

>Christianity destroyed for us the whole harvest of ancient civilization, and later it also destroyed for us the whole harvest of Mohammedan civilization. The wonderful culture of the Moors in Spain, which was fundamentally nearer to us and appealed more to our senses and tastes than that of Rome and Greece, was trampled down (—I do not say by what sort of feet—) Why? Because it had to thank noble and manly instincts for its origin—because it said yes to life, even to the rare and refined...
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>>1894169
>muhammad was a feminist
I wouldn't say that, since he pretty much lived the NEET dream while his wife Khadija provided for his lifestyle, since she basically was a merchant lord controlling much of the trade of the Quraysh tribe.

So it was more in his self-interest to keep her happy to keep writing that best seller of his without actually working.
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>>1894169
go bait on /pol/ faggot. seriously tired of these threads on /his/
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>>1894194
shills and correct the record doesn't care

it must be the 11th time I see this thread

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Is the French "resistance" during WW2 just a meme in order to whitewash the country of their passivity and collaboration?

Just compare it to the well-organized real resistance in countries like Greece, Yugoslavia or the USSR where people lived in fucking earthholes or forests and used their own bodies to clear minefields or destroy rails.

Handing out a bunch of posters where the obvious is stated (that the Nazis are bad) and telling Allies where to hide while letting them do all the dirty work is not fucking resistance.
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One - There was an active resistance.

Two - There were Free French forces that kept up the fight.

Three - Most importantly, France had already lost the war and surrendered. They weren't able to continue the fight legally without just getting massacred.

Guerilla warfare sounds noble and everything until you realize you're putting your populace at the mercy of a pissed-off superior force. In our age of 24 hour news coverage with everything under scrutiny and weakness-equals-virtue morals, fighting an asymmetrical war on the underdog side is more...
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>This was the WEHRMACHT. In two years, they conquered all of Western Europe and lost only 30,000 troops in the process. That’s less than the casualties of Gettysburg. You get the picture? Nobody, no army on earth, could’ve held off the Germans under the conditions that the French faced them. The French lost because they had a long land border with Germany. The English survived because they had the English Channel between them and the Wehrmacht. When the English Army faced the Wermacht at Dunkirk, well, thanks to spin the tuck-tail-and-flee result got...
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>French
>""""resistance""""

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Do you ever feel like you're missing out by not participating in great exciting things?

Not sure how to deal with this
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everybody wants a HAPPENING until it actually hits then they shit their pants

go volunteer for roajava or Isis if you want excitement in your life. or try to get involved with those crazy mercenary groups that will take anyone in Africa that used to advertise in the old soldier of fortune magazines
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No, I'd rather read about it years later then turn the event into a meme.
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>>1894127
I've thought about joining the YPG but I'm too scared to die

Can you imagine all the cool shit that happened in unrecorded pre history. All the battles fought with sticks and stones, the grate tribe leaders that we will never know about.
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I more interested in that awkward 10,000 year period when agricultural was gradually spreading.

Imagine being a hunter gatherer family stumbling upon an early agricultural settlement. The people there sit on their ass and farm while you're eating whatever you can kill. The chieftain greets you and you get the general idea that he will accept if you accept farm work. What do? Accept his offer or kill him eat all of his lifestock rape his daughters and then go back to hunting and gathering once the food runs out?
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>>1894097
>The chieftain greets you and you get the general idea that he will accept if you accept farm work
more probably he will either beat the shit out of your ass and enslave you or beat the shit out of your ass and slice your throat. farmers tend to be really protective about their property.
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I always try and fail to imagine how spooky it was for the first homo sapiens to exist. So you've got this hyperfunctional brain but no knowledge to justify it. You don't know fuck about the world yet you keep questioning it. They didn't know anything about the elements, human anatomy, why solid things are solid and liquid is liquid, they couldn't understand what is light, coldness, heat, to them fire was likely some tamed demon, they couldn't explain why day changes to night, they didn't know what is disease, and probably killed their sickly out...
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Was there opposition inside the Nazi party? Weren't there any officers who said

>I dunno Adolf, maybe you're too hard on Jews and invading Russia isn't a good idea
? Or everybody in the leadership was just too afraid to interefere with Hitler?
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I'm not too knowledged on this, but there was quite a bit of Nazi insurrection which led to a series of purges within the Reich, I'm sure you could find a list of all of them on Wikipedia or something.
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>>1894061
There was opposition and factionalism within both the Nazi party, and the German government as a whole throughout the prewar government, continuing right up until the end.
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Well Hitler survived countless assassination attempts so that should sort of give you a general idea of how many people opposed him.

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why are radical Muslims demonized and seen as terrorists when other enemies like the Japanese are seen as brave even though they to committed suicide, war crimes and beheadings ?
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>>1894058
They aren't

>Japs
>Herded into camps
>Muslims
>not herded into camps
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>>1894058
Because
1. The Japs did it 70 years ago, and not right now
2. Japs didn't do shit (directly) in Europe and America, with the exception of Pearl Harbour
3. They ARE demonized. At least in Europe schoosl teach that the Japs did some bad shit, and I'm sure that China and Korea teach their children that Japs are evil incarnate.
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Japs did it in a total war scenario. Muslims do it in peace time and even calling them out on it makes you a racist.

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How did he manage to prevent a country from becoming an Islamic State and create a secular Muslim nation instead?
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Too bad his legacy is shattered to pieces now
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Via force.
Secularism was constantly resisted and now Erdogan openly shits on him.
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>>1893875
Force. Because of his prior military success and high charisma he could pull it.

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Currently I am a non-denominational Christian, but should I convert to a denomination? I was thinking about Orthodox but should I join something else or remain non-denominational?
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>>1893810
Presbyterian
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>>1893810
Well, you very well could remain non-denominational. There is nothing wrong with that. I am a recent Orthodox convert, so it could be said that I am biased, but I would recommend Orthodoxy. Receiving salvation through Christ feels so much better when you have to work for it. God bless.
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>>1893810
What prompted you to become a christian in the first place and what is prompting you to change denomination?

Why does it seem like every decade of the 20th century, starting with the 1920s, has had it's own specific cultural identity? Did this happen in past centuries? Will it continue in the future?
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>>1893797
It hasn't always been like this and it's happening because the 20th century was like the freeway of centuries in that it propelled humanity 1000 years into the future in a single century. Nobody has ever experienced as rapid social/economic/political/technological progress as those in the 20th century, it's completely unheard of and totally unique to our era.
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much better record keeping, especially visually.
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Cameras and mass consumerism.

Go to a poor country in the 20th century and you'll notice a peasant dressed the same way in the 1960s as he did in the 1920s.

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Why did Germans commit so many war crimes and crimes against humanity in WW2?
Why did they act like Mongols?
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>>1893795
Because like the mongols, they took huge swaths of territory and millions of people who don't want to be ruled by the invaders. To keep the peace and to keep rebellions low, extreme brutality is needed. Though Germany had an actively genocidal leadership
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>>1893804
How come Napoleonic France managed to hold onto millions of conquered foreigners without violence and by giving them rights instead then?
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>>1893804
But that really didn't work did it? They just provoked more and more resistance.

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Daily reminder that if it weren't for France you all nigga would be speaking arabic right now.
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Thanks smelly guals
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>Charles the Hammer
>French
he was germanic, Pierre.
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>>1893751
French are Germanic

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What would have happened if Napoleon had successfully taken Accre?
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is that a menorah?
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>>1893702
its a birthday candle
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>>1893702
You're a big goy.

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Hey /his/.
Can anybody identify the historic context of this photo? I'm trying to find how old it is.

It comes from my deceased granddad's photo album.
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Picture 2 - the bottom of the photo
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Is there anything written on the back of the photo?
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>>1893573
No, nothing at all. Most of his family photos have nothing written on their back.

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>Any president who starts a war gets punished by having his party lose and breakdown.

The loss of Vietnam by the Best and Brightest caused Reagan to swipe in and dismantle the great society and turn america into a national theocracy . Bush losing Irak/Afg lead to the new progressive push which caused the legalization of gay marriage, which seemed impossible just a few years before 2008, when homosexuality was illegal.

Furthermore, both the GOP post Bush, and the DNC post LBJ reacted by putting forward more extremist (towards their...
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>>1893466
Homosexuality was illegal in 2008? Really? Where, that one county in Alabama that technically had sodomy laws still on the books that they didn't enforce?

C'mon.
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>>1893485
It was illegal all over America.

>On June 26, 2003, the U.S. Supreme Court in a 6–3 decision in Lawrence v. Texas struck down the Texas same-sex sodomy law, ruling that this private sexual conduct is protected by the liberty rights implicit in the due process clause of the United States Constitution.
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>>1893500
>Texas struck down the Texas same-sex sodomy law, ruling that this private sexual conduct is protected by the liberty
What?
If they "struck down" a sodomy law and ruled buttfucking was constitutionally protected, it means it wasn't illegal. Or am I reading it wrong?

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Is this the official /his/ reading list?
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>>1893430
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>>1893430
Put "New Age Bible Versions" by Gail Riplinger on there
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whats so bad about the mongol books?

Post >yfw you found out that the Roman Empire lasted until 1453
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You mean 1923
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You mean 1806
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how come the ottoman empire with small population density during the growth period (1453-1606) consistently fields huge armies compared to its opponents, gets blown up consistently and facing many european coalition from countries like spain, france and germany yet they can't stop conquering further into Europe until they were all the way into vienna. Can someone explain to me what actually happens? how did the ottomans logistic and manpower worked?
also no shitposting turks and butthurt balkanites please
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Little value for human life
Zhukov read a lot of books on the Ottomans and inspired his human waves stategy from them
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>>1893360
It was a mess that led to poor industrialization, economic diversification, and widespread poverty. They essentially drafted a disproportionate number of their men, usually Turks, but other ethnicities too in their armies
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>>1893379
fuck off haha

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>The industrial revolution was not a mistake
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>the agricultural revolution wasn't a mistake
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>>1893258
>The Fench Revolution wasn't a mistake
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>Absolute Monarchism was the ideal form of governship

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Exactly what are the reasons why Russia has become increasingly revanchist and revisionist in the past years?

I'm especially curious about their ability to turn reality completely on its head. Why do so people think Russia is being encircled by NATO?
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oil prices dropped
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>>1893195
Because it is.
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Every dictatorial regime needs an enemy. So Putin's propaganda created the evil NATO and degenerate Europe encircling them, portraying Russia as a fortress of traditional values and whiteness. Also Russians has always been a very militaristic society, so it's easy to play on that string. Also it's a huge shithole, so he choose to go the "Yes, we might be poor and whatnot, but at least we're stronk and have nukes!"

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>loses half his army crossing the Alps, something literally thousands of Celtic, German, Roman, Frankish and French armies have done throughout history without fanfare
>somehow goes down in history as 'the guy who crossed the Alps' for this
>could have just gone by the sea route anyway
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>it's a select area around street signs episode

wtf is this shit fuck you Hiro
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>>1893125
>>somehow goes down in history as 'the guy who crossed the Alps
Actually, he became famous because of muh elephants crossing the Alps.
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>land in america, dwpite wanting to find a shorter route to India, something natives and Scandinavian Vikings have done throughout history without fanfare
>somehow goes down in history as 'the guy who discovered america' for this
>could have just rebuilt the Suez canal

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Do you think God still loves us?
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I highly doupt he ever loved us.
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>God
literally who?
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God murdered man for collecting firewood on Saturday. Do you think he ever loved us?

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What was the reality of piracy like, /his/? Were the majority of them illegal smugglers, outlaw bandits, or state-sponsored privateers? Did they live on their ships hiding from the law or did they hang out on the coast in taverns getting drunk? Did they sail the seas aimlessly or stake out their turf? Did they have secret pirate island headquarters? Were they bro-tier?
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>>1893055
Pirates are people, believe it or not and people are different.

I'm sure there were many different situations that brought about many different types of pirates, some probably had intentions akin to a folk hero like Robin Hood, and others were there to gape little boi pucci like yours.
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>>1893074
Realtalk bruh, how homo were pirates?
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>>1893055
Lots of rape and vomiting in the water.

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Who was in the wrong here?
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>>1892990
talk shit, get your menorah taken away
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>>1892990
Romans were powerful colonialists, and the ancient Israelites were weak but haughty tribalistic group of shit-disturbers. Jews should feel lucky the Romans didn't just massacre them or take them all into slavery.
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>>1892990
It was the just judgement of God on a wicked sinful people who rejected His glory

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Tell me what I need to know about the Cumans
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They're described as having light hair, so don't get the image in your head of some mongols or some shit.
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>>1892973
Don't fear such!

Light hair, well there is a tiny contribution. Don't be shy if you got more info to put in.
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Really good spice.

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What is /his/ opinion on the albanians?

did they come from somewhere and why is their language so odd?

any interesting theories?
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They came from Turkish penis and Gypsy vagina

Their language is odd because they are retarded

My theory is that the world would be better off without them
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They are the native Balkanites of the Indo-European stock who were fucking sheep in the mountains, so they didn't get assimilated by the Romans or Slavs
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>>1892819
their language isnt odd, it is Indo European. It is probably related to Illyrian, a distant descendant deformed by the contact with romans, greeks, slavs and turks through the centuries.

Tell me about German Stormtroopers
Tell me about the Arditi
Tell about the elite units of WW1

What's their to know?
Are there any other well known WW1 elite units?
What tactics and weaponry did they use?
How were they formed and evolved over the war?

Also general WW1 thread I guess.
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All I can remember is that German Stormtroopers pioneered infiltration tactics, and the use of grenades before a quick assault. Imagine you aren't carrying a rifle, but instead have a bit bag just loaded with grenades.

They also had extremely high casualty rates unfortunately for being so elite due to the nature of their work.
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>>1892818
>All I can remember is that German Stormtroopers pioneered infiltration tactics, and the use of grenades before a quick assault.
not really
those are things they had indeed been doing
but they hardly pioneered it
infiltration tactics such as the above were being developed as early as 1916 and by most combatants

the one thing the germans pioneered was gathering up veteran soldiers into dedicated formations

this also proved to be their undoing as they inevitably...
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>>1892812
>Tell me about German Stormtroopers

A meme
Here's how they fared when storming a shitty fort
Keep in mind that the enemy surrendered because they had no water left


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