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Do you think art suffered or prospered when its focus shifted from primarily material to intellectual interpretation? Was this simply a natural progression of art itself?
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>>2067870
Personally I regard postmodern art like this as a reactionary bandwagon by rich hipsters that is essentially bullshit, but what do I know.
Prove me wrong /his/ I want to be shown otherwise.
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>>2067870
I think the issue is that old art is too easy to create with modern technology and the amount of people that have free time. So they need something to separate artists.
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>>2067889
This is avant-garde anti-art and a precusor to Dada of the early 20th century, not postmodernism.

Basically it was a reactionary movement against war and modern society and was anti-bourgeois. So you're not that far off with the hipster thing desu.

I wouldn't consider it bullshit, as it did lead to surrealism and modernism and all that jazz. It started collage, photo montage, and assemblage art not to mention a lot of literary and poetic trends

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What was life for women like in Ancient Rome?
How was marriage conducted?

give me your knowledge /his/
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>>2067833
I'm asking more about patrician women rather than plebeians btw
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when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much
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>>2067835
You sat on your ass, and got fucked at night.

They were freer than Greek women, and could go outside without male escort

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Has there ever been a president that just got high all day? Thats what i would do if I was president. Do they take piss tests and stuff to make sure not. Like even if they worried about the smell, they can just vape it. Obama probably smoked right?
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Bill clinton
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Smoke cigars and fuck 20 somethings every day, become forgotten within 100 years, lmao

Hope it was worth it.
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Seeing as cannabis was used in medicinal tonics until the 20th century, probably a lot of presidents.

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So I have a couple questions regarding this part of the world:

Firstly, in the pink, how did explorers know to sail that way to New Zealand? Is a larger part of expeditions trial and error? Do winds go towards land masses? In the circle of ocean I made, is it possible some one would have looked there for more land? I'm assuming Abos would have no clue of the Island(s)

And secondly in the Blue, why did the Brits set up the penal colony on the far side of Australia? Wouldn't that tack on i'm assuming at least 2 weeks sail, and wouldn't coastal...
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As for the pink, it was mostly a process of trial and error looking to find the southern continent (Antarctica) many geographers speculated existed, if you're talking about European explorers. The Polynesian ancestors of the Maori sailed to NZ from much further east in the Pacific.

The winds are generally motherly, although not directly noth-to-south. I've sailed in that area of the world and had upwind passages both to NZ from the islands and from the islands to NZ, but with some beating back and forth it's ok, never directly on the nose the whole time.

As...
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>>2068212
northerly, not motherly
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>>2068212
The Maori sailed from the Cook Islands I believe, but yeah it mostly trial and error.
Due to the small amount of land in the pacific, constant expeditions for new land were a necessity for growth. Due to this, Polynesians developed a few methods of effective navigation.
This is mainly speculation, but I expect the most prominent method would have been observing bird migration. Obviously, if a bird takes off into a completely uncharted direction, that you know is surrounded by ocean, there HAS to be land there...
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Where do you think humans came from?
Do you subscribe to the "muh rocks and water mixed together to make cellular life" theory?
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>>2067592
Yes, since thats the only plausible theory
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>>2067606
What makes you think it is plausible and why are all the other theories implausible?
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>>2067592
That's not even the theory but
>>2067606
>Yes, since thats the only plausible theory

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Is Sykes–Picot really the source of all the problems in the middle east?

Would the region be better/worse if the Western powers had just told the former subjects of the Ottomans they could do whatever they liked and left them alone?
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um ottoman empire 2k17?

:^)
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>>2067526

>Is Sykes–Picot really the source of all the problems in the middle east?

Yes

>Would the region be better/worse if the Western powers had just told the former subjects of the Ottomans they could do whatever they liked and left them alone?

That would have created even more instability and chaos.

They should kept their word with Faisal and supported the Arab nationalists in creating a national secular Arab state (that includes Palestine).
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Kinda but most of those borders got nullified almost instantly after they were created cause of conflicts.

But the real problem stem's from the sunni muslim populations not having any centralized leadership like they used to under the Ottomans and their vassals or before that under the Khalipat. I mean, atleast the shiites have Iran and the guys sitting there pulling the strings but sunni's are a bit more decentralized.

Sure, you could argue that it was the Brits fault but the Ottoman empire was already dying and pan-arabism was on the growth.
But...
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ITT: Post historical figures and what boards they would have visited on this site

I'll start: /pol/ and /k/
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>>2067513
/lit/, /k/, /his/, and /x/
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/x/
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>>2067513
/his/

Was killing Caesar a mistake?
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It was for the dudes who killed him, including the ones who were too chicken shit to actually be involved, like Cicero.

They all died, and there was a monarch anyway, which was probably inevitable no matter what.

I mean, what would have happened if Caesar had lived? Caesarian becomes Emperor after Caesar dies, and is possibly overthrown by Republican factions?

Caesar has a legitimate heir who's too young to do anything and is overthrown by Caesarian/Marc Antony/Republicans/Octavian?

He returns the Republic to the people in his will?
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>>2067467
Maybe the Senate could stop being self-serving pricks and help the common people so that there might be some uproar if Caesar destroyed them rather than almost every Roman adoring Caesar and hating the Senate?
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>>2067467
*Caesarion

It was autocorrect, I swear

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Does anyone else wish Czechland was a strong country?

>Important HRE thing that doesn't try to conquer the world and kill all the jews.

>stronk manufacturing.

>good tank and gun for army

>German and Slav mixture for extra flavor

Prussia is kind of gay compared to Bohemia desu.

Where did they go wrong?
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>>2067403
>killing jews
>bad

>>>/reddit/
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>>2067403
Bohemia and Hungary are definitely top two.

Of course, without the Curse if Turan Hungary wouldn't be as cool.
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>instead of using resources to win the war lets build murder factories instead!

>>>/pol/

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I dont wanna die, lads
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We have nothing to fear but fear itself. And the world is full of fear. It's horrifying. Jesus Christ there's so much fear.
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>>2067356
>Fri Dec 9 2016
>/his/ tries to be comforting
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>>2067356
I ain't scared of nuffin!

>medieval people were so stupid they didn't understand the passage of time and would get totally lost if they the general area of their village
>peasants just went around naked all the time in summer because medieval people had no sense of ego
>nobody used non-roman roads until the 18th century, same with harbors
>nobody in Europe built brick/stone buildings for ten centuries
>claims Copernicus was killed by the inquisition...
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>>2067214
This offends me greatly
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>>2067214
are you memeing or is this book that bad? Because that's not just bad, that's like "literally making bullshit up as you go and never having read literally anything ever" bad.
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>>2068370
Yeah it is that bad. Apparently he just sat around making up shit. According to a Amazon review:
>As his "Author's Note" reveals, at the age of 70 during a convalesence, he decided to write a "portrait" of the 16th Century as a backdrop to a study of Magellan. In roughly two years he churned out "AWLOBF," notwithstanding the fact that his background in the 16th Century was no more than "the general familiarity of an educated man." As a result, his...
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What are /his/ thoughts on historical recurrence?

How are modern times like those that have come before?
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History doesn't repeat, it rhymes.

The American Republic is the same as the Roman one, but bigger, faster, and fatter
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Speculators fuck the economy, populism goes on the rise.
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>>2067217

The American Republic can afford to lose a tentacle here and there. The Roman one couldn't.

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Explain gnostic dualism, /his/.
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>>2067061
>gnostic dualism
Sloterdijk's distinction between libertine and ascetic Gnosis is illuminating: "The amoral style leads to a homeopathic ascetic: this weakens the Evil of sin, in that they are committed thoughtfully and ironically, as if by quota: the Gnostic embraces the sin and experiences thereby a critical decay in his own body, finally to climb out of the gutter fully burnt out. — The world is a pornographic purgatory, from which to filter the immaculate Pneumata. The...
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>>2067061
Heresy
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When you realize the world is fucked up but you still want to hold to the idea of God.

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Was he a good king /his/?
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>>2067059
no
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Hell no
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>>2067059
Yes, fuck the Pope.

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When did labor unions stop being racist and embrace diversity and immigrant labor?
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Never. They were cucked by big capital.
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>>2067002
Why would they embrace competition of people who will work for peanuts? I still don't get it to this day. Unions are impossible because 3rd worlders will just take the jobs and never ask for a raise because they're ok with living in ghettos, and the white working class pays them welfare for their other necessities and so they can have more kids (more competition/wage stagnation for future generations). This is the biggest capitalist scam of our time and it's happening throughout the Western nations,...
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>>2067002
When they realized the race was a social construct meant to divide the working class

Was it just a massive betrayal from the U.S?
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>>2066909
Is it really betrayal if the guy you betray planned to throw you under the bus later?

Because that's the entire foreign policy plan of all MENA
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>>2066909
The alternative was causing a massive backlash among developing countries by proving USSR propaganda right, they didn't have much of a choice.
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>>2066909
Yes.
They wanted a weaker Britain, as a weaker Britain would not be able to oppose americas policies in the Cold War as well

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How did these cunts even recognize each others?
Their uniforms all rook same
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>>2066863
>Multinational coalition forces used white shoulder bands to distinguish friends from foes during the battle.
End of introduction on Wikipedia
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>>2066961
Kek
Like it's so difficult to make your uniform look different from the enemy's instead of resorting to shit like that
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>>2067004
Wait, are you saying we should dirty the countries colours? Right, to the court martial with you!

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>Charles Taylor
>Stefan Molyneux
>Jordan Peterson

Why are all the best living philosophers Canadian?
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>>2066806

HOLY SHIT, did Stefan go to hell?
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>>2066806
Not an argument
>>2067010
He is a filthy fedora
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>>2066806
Slavoj Zizek is not Canadian.

What are your thoughts on an age of humans preceding this one? Evidence at Nabta Playa, H20 weathering of Sphinx etc?
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>>2066683
Why do you think they were humans? The Sphinx in particular was built by lion people.
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Civilizations leave evidence.

Pottery, sudden replacement of indigenous flora and fauna with domesticated species, worked metal items.

We have evidence of stone tools progressively getting better and better until the neolithic revolution.

It wouldn't make sense that genuine civilizations existed without domesticating animals, firing clay, or forging metal.
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>>2066683

what is your picture supposed to be. surely this belongs on /x/ too?

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Why did it have to die bros?

;_;7
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>>2066680
Because it was a failure
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>>2066680
You can't organise a society around the state pretending they have full employment and the workers pretending they work.
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Because capitalism is great goy-I mean guys. Don't worry about automation exterminating the poor and the middle class.

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Why shouldn't we all kill ourselves?
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>>2066636
Because your purpose is to reproduce, just like every other organism that has ever lived.

Reproduce, proliferate, propagate, expand, and seize the world as your own.

That's the point to life.
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because suicide is for NERDS
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>>2066700
oh what the heck DUBBERS

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Can we have a serious discussion about this one? Obviously it is a very complicated question, I'm currently reading "Greek Homosexuality" by K.J. Dover and I have some questions.

Is the resentment against homosexual acts rooted in the onset of Abrahamic religions? Since it is known that pederasty at least was common among the indo-europeans (http://www.academia.edu/9176955/An_Enigmatic_Indo-European_Rite_Paederasty). What are the historical roots of our modern stance on pedophilia?

What is the stance of the classical Roman virtue towards homosexuality...
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The abrahamic faiths definetly helped, but IMO even if they never existed gays would still ahve been, and be, treated much as they are now. To non gay people, homosex is gross, and considering the very small amount of them in the world population, they will always be at odds with everyone else.

Dunno about the rest, but I heard it explained that the Greek upper classes were essentially homo but the roman upper classes just liked Traps
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According to Mike, the Romans were quite accepting of homosexuality. It wasn't acceptable for upstanding elites to just 'be gay', but during their youth it was understood that young men could experiment with gay sex as long as they was discreet about it. It sounds like it was mildly taboo socially, but not in a "purge the deviants" kind of way.
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>>2066914
I heard that homosex was more socially accepted for a Roman and a true men then submitting to ones wife, like oral sex? It is very interesting that even M. Aurelius mentions that he is thankful that he resisted the charms of boys. I think its somewhere in the first book of the Meditations

>when retards refer to any event after 1453 as "medieval".

what triggers your historical autism
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>>2066396

But many areas were still medieval in the 15th and even later centuries, for example Russia only began to leave its medieval period under Peter and Catherine.
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>>2066437

I mean in places with civilized people that matter.

Yesterday I heard someone say in medieval Spain in the 1490s.
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>>2066396
When people say shit like "Abraham was a Jew" even though Jews descend from his great grandson.

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>In 1830 there were 3,775 free black people who owned 12,740 black slaves in the US.

>When the slaves were freed from the US, some went back to Africa and promptly enslaved the native Africans based on the plantation methods they learned in the US.
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>>2066321

>Jesus was born from anal sex.
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>>2066321
Source? That's neat
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>>2066422
http://www.ironbarkresources.com/slaves/whiteslaves05.htm

https://thegrio.com/2010/02/01/former-american-slaves-played-oppressive-role-in-liberias-past/

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What's his name, /his/?
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>>2066303
Judging from the file name, Mr. Portrait.
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This is why I can't browse /his/ in front of other people.
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I forgot

>fluked literally two battles against unarmoured sandfarmers with Daddy's army

Why is he famous again?
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>>2066250

Cause he knew that OP was a fagot.
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>>2066250
he was gay so
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He also won a lot of daddy's battles for him. When the Thebans were pushing the Macedonians back, Alexander led the decisive cavalry charge into the Theban's flank. As he won so many countless battles, he was at the decisive moment, the center of the action. It's actually not different from his subsequent battles in that he rarely commanded the entire army and the infantry would be lead by a subordinate; personally leading the main cavalry thrust is all he ever does.

>line warfare
Why didnt everybody just duck?
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It's dishonorable.
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>>2066191
>line warfare thread
Someone post the thread with that "cuck" guy, pretty much everything you want to know about line warfare was said there at some point.
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>>2066191
Because reloading

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Why can't we have good faith discussions?
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>>2066104
We can, just not here.

Generally this is because "trolling" gets sublimated into actual ideology, leading to good faith discussors being labeled as trolls.

Besides, it's not as good for rapid succession dopamine kicks of having your post get a bunch of replies. As such this becomes a dance of one-upsmanship in which even good-faith actors attempt to annoy the shit out of certain classes of strident trolls.
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>he wants to argue in good faith and not purposely construct strawman and commit logical fallacies and watch somebody get butthurt and squirm in their long winded attempts to refute it
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>>2066104
That's an eggcelent observation

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Why have nazi's always been weebs? What's it about Asian culture that appeals to them so much?
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>>2066043
Probably cultural conservatism if anything.
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>>2066043
theyre fans of aesthetic conservative culture and japan is one of the biggest xenophobic places
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Japan is objectively the best organized society on earth.

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Besides Sultans boy fuckers, have there ever been Christians kings that got cought from being homosexual?
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>>2065987

Richard I.
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>>2065987
>that got cought from being homosexual?

What did he mean by this?
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Frederick the Great


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