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>peddle opium to the chinese, hook millions on the drug
>declare war on china and seize port cities when they try to stop the opium trade

How perfidious can Albion get?
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>>1784811
Friendly reminder that hong xiuquan did nothing wrong.
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>>1784811
>Literally going extinct from immigration due to Jews, SJWs, and Leftism

Karma is a Bitch. In 50 years the Anglos will be gone.
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>>1784830
Christ only had one brother.

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How useful are DNA studies for recreating the history of human migrations?
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Very useful however not useful enough to override modern history which is basically political testaments. There will be gaps between both. Whatever story dna tells will most always be something of a myth. Ancient man was ignorant, racist and stubborn, however migration occured in intervals for periods of time.

We really need that to establish with certainty the origin of native americans. You know that a small minority believes that 'white people' originated in the americas and they placed native americans here in order to conquer europe. the worlds oldest...
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>>1784735
Irrelevant. Only stormfags care about race (if there even is such a thing). We shouldn't care about the races of ancient civilizations, but rather we should care about their culture.
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>>1784735

DNA is actually pretty unreliable for the most part.

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Can we get an historical music thread going? National anthems are also acceptable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO_vlmbd72o
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>>1784709
Finland national anthem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBnAZ_qSYJU
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Dropping off a few of my favorites:

Umi Yukaba:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd6YpZ-C9y0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-h1My2GLDA

There'll Always Be an England:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSNi_SOhQWk

La Marseillaise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K1q9Ntcr5g

Polyushka Polye:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2YlbiyiuMc

Stars and Stripes Forever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mRn9chmRAY

Will the Circle Be Unbroken:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWmxmGd5eSg

Hard Times Come Again No More:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yHHPZ7Sp1c

M'en...
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Is there any period of history you would prefer to live in over current year?

Pic possibly related.
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In the future with genetic modifications and space travel
>ywn help your futa captain in the exploration of galaxies
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>>1784558
>ywn be a loli futa fucktoy for your futa captain
There's seriously no need for there to be any sex but kinky futa sex. Futas can identify as any gender and it would make sense.
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>>1784553
>Pic possibly related.

You want to be a soldier in the worst european army of the era and get shipped overseas to defend your tiny empire before getting defeated by peasant rebels?

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Why did Hector fight Patroclus (who he thought was Achilles) but run like a bitch from the real Achilles?
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>>1784508
Greek writing
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>>1784508
Blame homer's autistic storytelling
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>>1784508
He must have lost his nerve, knowing Achilles was really pissed off that he killed his best friend and stole his armor.

If Germany had Nukes during ww2 would they have used them?
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>>1784353

Why would you think otherwise?
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Yes.
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No airforce means no nukes

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Is it fair to critique philosophers for failing to apply their philosophy to their daily lives?
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>>1784327
Yes and no. It's only fair to critique it so much as that fact that it's either not useful and just wankery, or the possibility that not living out their philosophy caused a bias in it and may have held them back from developing the philosophy.
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>>1784327
That's called an ad hominem. It is a well-known fallacy. So no.
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>>1785561
How so? I could see that it would be an ad hominem to critique the philosophy because the philosopher didn't live up to his ideals, but how is it true in the opposite?

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What was the absolute low point of humanity?
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>>1784195
nah that's just martyr meme
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>>1784195
Challenger Deep
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>>1784195
The French Revolution.

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So who does it really belong to /his?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY
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>>1784162
Whoever has the power to control it
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the land belongs to whoever holds it
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>>1784162
The people who live on it ATM, as it has always been.

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Mine is Thomas Jefferson.
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>>1784134
We basically learn that America won a revolution, we do not give a shit about the particular personages save for Ben Franklin, Washington, and the other guys who became presidents.
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>>1784134
Thomas Paine
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>>1784164
inb4 ignorant

>*blocks your path*
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>>1784098
>*tip-toes around him*
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>>1784100
HALT, KNAVE!
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>>1784106
"oh brave night, may I cometh through?"

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Is he considered a fuck-up or a hero for the disbanding of the USSR?
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He isn't a fuckup for disbanding the USSR, he's a fuckup for everything he did previously.
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A fuck-up. Anticommunists also hate him, because he didn't get rich off the USSR's collapse.
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>>1784073
Historians basically view him as an incompetent fuck up.

He also didn't disband the USSR.

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So yeah... Actually sounds interesting.

But yeah, about that story...
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>>1783933

What's that confusing? If you believe the general history bent of Judges (not always a good idea) you have a Caananite chief/king, who was causing problems for the Israelites, who eventually gathered up enough force to beat his troops, and Jael killed him after the battle.


It's significance is primarily in the form of the Kenites aligning with the Israelites, which wasn't always a 100% thing. They weren't enemies, and of course you have guys like Jethro being very important, but their...
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>>1783933
Far from the worst thing a Kenite has done:

>2 Kings 10:18-28

>18 Then Jehu gathered all the people together, and said to them, “Ahab served Baal a little, Jehu will serve him much. 19 Now therefore, call to me all the prophets of Baal, all his servants, and all his priests. Let no one be missing, for I have a great sacrifice for Baal. Whoever is missing shall not live.” But Jehu acted deceptively, with the intent of destroying the worshipers of...
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The author arrives as a convincing conclusion and then their strawman God dismisses it, for some reason. Not quite sure what they were getting at there. The Bible is a book of many different genres, history being one of them.

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Not sure if /his/ or /lit/ related because it's a bit of both, but decided to post here because /lit/ is typically full of idiots.

Does the West have an equivalent to the Romance of the Three Kingdoms era in China?

Either history wise or literature wise?

I think of the War of the Roses or the Hundred Years War but they just don't seem to have the scale or the drama that this era had.
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>>1783911
It's later, but I'd say maybe the Napoleonic Era?

Or if you're looking for larger than life figures, you can't go wrong with the Greek and Persian Wars, all the way down to Alexander
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>>1783911
Ogniem i mieczem?
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Fall of the Roman Republic.

Caesar is Cao Cao
Augustus is Sima Yi
Cato/Cicero is Zhuge Liang/Liu Bei
Mark Anthony is Lu Bu

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Why the Jewish diaspora hates their host populations so much? I can understand them hating Russians in 1917 and wanting to take revenge at them through Bolshevism, but even in countries where Jews were not mistreated, they always work to undermine and enslave their hosts.

Jews in the German Empire had full civil rights and recognition, many reached the upper echelon of politics and economy, like Walter Rathenau, and yet Jews still conspired with Allied powers to destroy Germany and attempted to establish a communist dictatorship that the German people didn't want.

Jews...
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>>1783786
Dude missed the biggest block of Trump voters in existence.

People who fucking hate Hillary Clinton.
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>>1783786
Read the Talmud, it's the main source of their xenophobia.
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>>1783786
I'm afraid I'm slowly losing my ability to see/comprehend words like racist and bigot.

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What is the historical equivalent of Chad?

In ancient Rome I think it'd be
>Brutus
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Most ancient men were chad
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>>1783754
just like our fathers
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>>1783746
Who gave that Eminem roids?

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Alternate History: What would have happened if Diogenes moved to another spot instead of telling Alexander to stand out of his sun?
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>>1783508
Alexander becomes a massive pussy.
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>>1783508
End of the world.
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>>1783508

So was Diogenes really so famous that Alexander specifically went looking for him? Or did they meet purely by coincidence?

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Was Sparta really as based as people say they were?

All I ever hear about them is about the battle Thermopole and the

300 spartans and how cool they were, but I feel like some of the

other information, like the compulsory homosex is people

projecting their political agenda onto them.

What's the real story behind Sparta?
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>>1783130
They were pretty based.

They biggest flaw however was their over reliance on the helots.
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>>1783130
>Was Sparta really as based as people say they were?

No. It's true they had the most "warrior culture" in Greece and were feared and respected, but ultimately they lost about as much as they won. Other Greek cities could go toe to toe with them.

The "deal" with Sparta is that they had a warrior class that was greatly outnumbered by the slave population, which is both what made the dedicated warrior class possible (since others did all the work) and...
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>>1783130
>300 Spartans
Also they were profilic homosexuals and pederasty was part of their culture.

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Objectively insightful philosopher or just memtic author? 90% of people can't answer right on this simple question.
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Con artist
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>>1782917
>memtic
That's not how you spell semitic.
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>>1782924
Was she really semitic?

How can people still take Christianity seriously when it's been so thoroughly BTFO? 99% of the bible has been reduced from fact to mere metaphor in just a few hundred years. What's more likely the bible is true and we're just now figuring out it isn't supposed to be taken literally or the authors were full of shit like all other unscientific ancient people.
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>>1782823
Everything in the Bible is true.
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>>1782830
Is that in the bible?
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>>1782823
Some pussies can't reject the bible, it will hurt their fee fees.

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>>Cagots were shunned and hated. While restrictions varied by time and place, they were typically required to live in separate quarters in towns, called cagoteries, which were often on the far outskirts of the villages. Cagots were excluded from all political and social rights. They were not allowed to marry non-Cagots, enter taverns, hold cabarets, use public fountains, sell food or wine, touch food in the market, work with livestock, or enter the mill.[2] They were allowed to enter a church only by a special door, and during the service, a rail separated...
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>>1782807
t. cagot
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Why have the French -- ever since first immigrating into Europe from the steps of Asia -- repeatedly helped the spread of Islam?

Why is it that the great Frankish invasions that partly caused the fall of Rome coincide with the early conquest of Islam? In almost mirrored assaults, both tribes poured into the weakened Roman world. Are we supposed to believe it's just a coincidence?

I would be tempted to believe if it wasn't for the fact that French history is filled with an obsession to bring more Muslims into Europe.

Just a hundred years ago they...
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More like fagots am I right?

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ITT: people who were right
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Jesus.
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Both of them
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>go watch a Philosophy class this week
>teacher comes in
>"How can I know these hands are really mine? How can I know these hands are real?"
>I gtfo
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>>I gtfo

You should of just said 'How do you know there not real?'
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>>1782588

>not giving him the D/escrates
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>>1782588
Should have asked how mirrors can be real if his eyes aren't real

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Did Atlantis really exist or was it a meme Plato made up?
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Plato was a memester. One of the finest shitposters of the time.
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>>1782530
This.
>Yea so there's this reality but you can't see it and I will give you a description of it by illustrating it with a cave despite it not being able to be accurate at all if my conclusion is true lol
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>>1782538
To be fair though the life we're currently living is not the REAL life. It's reality but this is not the way we were meant to live.

Not sure if that's what he meant by this though.

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>the Crusades were bad meme
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>the Islamic golden age meme
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>the Crusades were good meme
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>The Islamic Golden Age never happened

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What was the first superweapon in history?
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>>1782426
Weaponized autism
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>>1782426
Helepolis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helepolis

Too bad it worked better in theory than in practice.
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jewish manipulation

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>Tfw wish portugal had colonized the northern coast of newfoundland and labrador.
>You wish that st. pierre et miquelon had a lot more people
>You wish that the Brits had heavily colonized the Falkland islands,making it populated with millions of brits
>You wish the french had created a second quebec in new caledonia, creating a french speaking european state in the area between australia and new zealand
>You wish that napoleon...
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>>1782315
ssb
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A french north america would have been nice, yes.
I wish they hadn't been booted out of florida by the spanish around 1560, and sent all their huguenots over instead of killing them.

Also wish Formosa remained dutch.
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>>1782315
>wanting more Quebecois

How much of the history surrounding the life of alexander was pure fanfiction?
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>>1782242
Alexander the Gay.
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>>1782809
i doubt that he received dick but he probably gave it
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>>1782242
>Alexander the """""Great"""""

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LsrkWDCvxg

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Let's imagine an alternate world. Don't mind the logistics of it, just humour me for a second.

In this world all humans:
- Are completely rational
- Will always prioritize the well being of the human race over their own.
- All work under the same framework so all humans will reach the same conclusion if given the same information.

With all these conditions in place, could you construct a scenario in which a war between two groups of these humans is inevitable or possible?

You can make up or change anything you want as long as those rules aren't broken.
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>>1782050
>All work under the same framework so all humans will reach the same conclusion if given the same information.

what

And yes, feed them false or flawed information.
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>>1782050
Blacks are exterminated because they offer no logical benefits whatsoever.
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>>1782063
Try to make up an actual scenario. Be specific.

>>1782068
Ignoring the Stormfaggotry, anyone who's detrimental to society are still perfectly rational would either find a niche in which they can be helpful or just rid themselves. Not exactly a war.

>muh 6 million dead
>muh dictator
are these the only arguments you can make against him?
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>muh six million

Where have I seen this before.
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>>1781693
purely coincidence
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>>1781693
read any criticism of napoleon and muh 6 million dead always comes up


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