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>when you see a vision of Stalin leading the USSR
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[COLAPSE]
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>>1766436

Did Stalin actually do anything that Lenin wouldn't have approved of?
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>>1766555
uncle josi was an imperialist shit

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Can we get an art thread going???

Preferably prior to 1800s but no limits
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i'd like to discuss the nature of genesis 6:1-4

the nephilim, sons of God, daughters of men.. who were they?

>When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide in[a] man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” 4 The Nephilim[b] were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters...
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OP here, it is my opinion that the nephilim were "the heroes of old, the men of renown"

i think the sons of God were righteous people who followed God, and the daughters of men were people who did not follow God, and i think the bible was referencing a point in time, where the world had NO culture of God because the righteous people (sons of God) were simply lusting after bad people (daughters of men) and the world became full of evil. the nephilim i believe are independent of the sons of God and the daughters of men having children. i believe the bible mentions...
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bump for bible discussion
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anyone?

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What makes Protestants and Muslims such natural allies?
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Possibly their aniconism.
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because god said so
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>>1766172
The need to make catholics angry

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Why did they pick the worst possible location for the Kurdish nation?
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>>1765266
because it was their property
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>>1765269
>"their property"
>all those azeri turkic dominated areas
>all those former amernian areas they stole from them
>all that christian Assyrian land
>all that Ottoman land
Here is their original land.
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WE WUZ COUNTRY

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Could someone explain to me why most moral philosophers are moral realists despite most of them not being religious? How is secular morality not just a big game of pretend?
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How does religion have anything to do with morality?
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>>1763512
deists/theists say the universe has a rule set and part of that is morality

atheists pretend the universe doesnt have a rule set
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>>1763541
That still doesn't explain a connection because believing in a god doesn't have anything to do with religion.

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SO, it occurred to me that 100 years ago, at this time, my greatgrandfather was shittin himself in a trench somewhere on the Alps roughly 6 months before eventually getting killed.
What where your ancestors doing today?
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>>1762424
Probably chilling in Austria-Hungary making mad Jew dosh desu
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>>1762424
Killing British army officers and making up sweet rhymes about how they suck.

Hopefully, I'd hate to find out that didn't happen
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>>1762468
hold the fuckin' phone. i know for sure where my granpa was and where he died and - more or less - how.
I will not allow half-assed research in muh thread.

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Why did the Romans contribute almost nothing to science compared to other civilizations?
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Why science when slavery gets the job done
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>>1761632
What are those other societies? The Germanshits? The Celts? The Parthians?
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Too busy getting other "civilizations" to Imperium & Chill with them

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>Relax, I'm a doctor, I'm here to help

How do you respond?
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Please don't make me smell the jar...
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So how many of the supposed treatments in CK2 are based on reality? Did medieval doctors actually do half the things it seems?
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>>1759223
>no thanks man I'll just take a bath and walk it off

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It is agreed that Germany had the best tanks aside from the T-34, they mastered armor, and fire power. Towards the end of the war they started mass producing the Tiger 2, although not many were made, how did the "King Tiger" preform in battle? What were its weaknesses?
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>It is agreed that Germany had the best tanks aside from the T-34
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>>1755395
The T-34 fucked the Germans, it out gunned the Panzer 4 and could knock out a Tiger I by ramming it.
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>>1755402
>could knock out a Tiger I by ramming it.

Was ramming even that common in WWII?

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Why did, after WWII, Japan get off so easy compared to Germany despite committing so many atrocities themselves? Their emperor was allowed to remain head of state, and they were never instilled with a sense of guilt and self-hate.
Pic relates is a statue of Japanese fascist Nakano Seigo in Japan. It's like if Bucharest had a big statue of Corneliu Zelea Codreanu.
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>>1765914

>Japan get off so easy compared to Germany

I'm sorry, did you just ignore the part where thousands of Japanese were burned alive by American firebombing, which those involved later admitted would have been considered a horrific war-crime if they had lost? They didn't get off easy at all.
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>>1765914
No jews in Japan.
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>>1765929
I literally said "after WWII", not during.

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What happened to the Neanderthals?
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>>1752589
they died
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>>1752589
Got cucked into extinction
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>>1752589
Same fate as Europeans. They were outbred by their competitors.

Were they doomed from day one?
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Every instance of fasism is doomed to untimely fiasco. As fascist ideologues consider their enemies too weak and too strong at the same time, making timely and accurate decisions becomes more and more difficult down the line
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As was Icarus when he jumped.
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>>1764997
They were doomed the day the first lend-lease shipment hit Russia.

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Why is Hitler remember as the ultimate evil when Josef Stalin, who existed in the same time period, was responsible for millions more innocent deaths? Why does mainstream media take the spotlight away from this Soviet murderer?
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Why does the Holodomor genocide have such a varying death toll? It ranges anywhere from 2.5 to 10 million people
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Fuck you
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>>1764356
you seem upset
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>stalin killed 60 million people
>somehow this massive population shortage immediately made the soviet onion stronger which allowed it to engage in a cold war with the west long after stalin had died.

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Has Sam Harris made philosophy, and humanities in general, obsolete?
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>>1764184
He's easily one of the greatest authors/philosophers/intellectuals of our time.
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>>1764192
That's stricly your opinion, and quite frankly an unfounded one.
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>>1764184
How? He's just a meme.

why do some Japanese people look down on Chinese and Korean people? The Japanese upper class originally adopted technology, governing ideas, philosphy and even clothing from Chinese royalty. Koreans helped establish Buddhism and laws. I didn't find any prior hostilities to the Imjin war. It seems that it started after the unification of Japan by Hideyoshi, Nobunaga and Tokugawa but was it just a plan brought by Hideyoshi to grab power or was there already such unfavorable relations? It seems Japan only fought Korea at that point because they refused passage to manchuria...
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>>1761992
why?
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>>1761976

A combination of racism and nationalism, basically. It's really not that complicated. However, you are right in that memories of what Japan did in WW2 have faded but not disappeared. Pretty much anytime Japan builds a new carrier nowadays, China starts yelling something about how Japan is getting ready to invade again.
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>>1761976
Humans are naturally racist.

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Ok, christians of /his/. Why christianity?
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>>1761805
Judaism really is better. if you aren't Jewish you only have to observe the 7 Noahide laws which are pretty simple stuff like worship only YHVH, don't murder and don't torture animals like a sick fuck
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>>1761805
Because Jesus really is God, and really did rise from the dead.
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>>1761817
But in Judaism you have to chop off your foreskin. And if you're judging "better" by ease of practice, then thinking Christianity is more difficult than Judaic practice, I think you're mistaken.

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Tell me about the Satanic Verses.

Aren't they the 'smoking gun' that Muhammad was making things up on the fly?
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>>1755730

Perhaps he wasn't making things up on the fly, but he certainly tried to accommodate Meccan beliefs.

There's theory that Islam was initially a hodgepodge of monophysite Christianity and Arabian traditional beliefs and transmuted into strict monotheism only after Muhammad moved to Medina.
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>>1757118
My theory is that Islam as we know it has little in common with Muhammad's teachings. Same is with christianity and any other major religion.
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>>1757118
Doesn't the Koran state that Christians believe that Mary is the third person of the Trinity? How could Islam be much influenced by Christianity when Mahound got even the rock bottom basics of Christian theology so totally wrong in an obvious factual error?

I think Islam has a lot more in common with Phariseeism. My guess is that Mahound was a high-functioning sociopath who was vaguely acquainted with Christianity, but much more familiar with Phariseeism. In order to secure his own social status within...
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Descriptions of ancient societies from the point of view of other society. The further apart they are the better. I'll post what I have.

On the Arabs [Dashi to the Chinese], compiled from the records of Du Huang, who was a POW in the Abbasid Caliphate following the Battle of Talas.
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>>1755535
>"The Dashi (Arabs) were originally under the rule of Anxi (Persia). The men have high noses, are dark, and bearded. The women are very fair [white] and when they go out they veil the face.

>Five times daily they worship Tianshen [lit. Heavenly God]. They wear silver girdles, with silver knives suspended. They do not drink wine, nor use music. Their place of worship will accommodate several hundreds of people.

>Every...
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>"Kufa is the place of their capital. Its men and women are attractive in appearance and large in stature. Their clothing is handsome, and their carriage and demeanor leisurely and lovely. When women go outdoors, they always cover their faces, regardless of whether they are noble or base. They pray to heaven five times a day. They eat meat [ even] when practicing abstention, [for] they believe the taking of life to be meritorious."
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>>1755535
>"The followers of the religion of the Dashi have a means to denote the degrees of family relations, but it is degenerated and they don’t bother about it. They don’t eat the meat of pigs, dogs, donkeys and horses, they don’t respect neither the king of the country, neither their parents, they don’t believe in supernatural powers, they perform sacrifice to heaven and to no one else.

>According their customs every seventh day is a holiday, on which...
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What did he mean by this?
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>>1766655
getting raped in the ass by altaic jurcho-koreans/manchu-koreans
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>>1766655
they won't fight well unless they think their life completely depends on it and if retreat is too easy.

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>dude axes aren't shit because muh poleaxe
>poleaxe was used as a spear and axe blade was ignored

lmao axes confirmed for being shit beyond all redemption
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>talks shit about axes and pole axes
>shows a Bec de Corbin
>doesn't realize that's really a hammer
0/10.

Shit bait, m8.
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>>1766515
It's literally the page right before. Don't be a cunt.
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>>1766540
>spike
>axe blade

xD

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Literally a Charlatan who copied Mussolini and had no real intellectual tastes of his own. A complete fraud.

Mussolini grew up fighting in wars and editing multiple newspapers. He read many philosophers and was a truly great individual in terms of intellectual and willful capacity.

Prove me wrong, protip, you can't.
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>>1766191
BAIT
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Intellectuals need to be hanged.
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>>1766202
Thanks for not being able to prove me wrong.

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ITT: historical "villains" that did nothing wrong.
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>>1766061
Robespierre
Lenin
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Mehmed the Conqueror
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>>1766061
Süleyman I. - the magnificent.

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>be in uni
>taking world history course
>just finished talking about french rev
>time for napoleonic wars!
>"napoleon just conquered a few countries then invaded Russia and failed then no one liked him"

Have any of your professors pulled something like this?
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>then no one liked him
>except for that time when he came back and everyone liked him again
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>>1765597
I don't get the image
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>>1765661
*pew pew bam kaboom* !!!!

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>Thoughtcrime deserves eternal punishment
Why do religions do this?
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>>1765377

As far as I know, Christainity is the only religion that does this. Why do you equate it with all religion?


And even with Christainity, it's not so much thoughtcrime as innate human nature deserves eternal punishment, which admittedly is probably even more fucked up.
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>>1765385
Singling out Christianity is a good way to get tons of shitposters and funny hat maymays.
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>>1765377
Because.
Religions are indicative of the type of civilization they come from.

Feudal nations have religions where the gods are very human in their needs and desires; this is because feudal societies have loyalty rather than legality.

The desert towns that spawned Judaism and Christianity were state religions with objective moral punishments, because they had a society of thieves, merchants and others, so they needed laws in place of loyalty.

While I consider myself a Christian, I think Christianity...
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I know most forms of theism and organized religion are in all likelihood giant crocks of shit, but I've gotten an interest of late for deism. Deists pride themselves on being non-dogmatic and being open-minded and emphasizing learning every day, but the last argument I had with a deist, he seemed very closed-minded and hanging on to weak cases that barely proved his points and continually assuming his worldview is right while trying to shift the burden of proof. So deists of /his/, why should I be a deist, and what logical reasoning leads you to deism and the natural god?
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I don't know how to elaborate on deism when it's literally just "I believe in a god who left the world to its own devices" and there's no structure to it.
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>>1764975
Obviously, but why? You can't believe something for no reason.
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>>1764981
I can and I will

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What are some good examples of active colonialism occuring in the twentieth centuary?

Durring the Soviet union's rule in the Baltics they would move in Millions of Russians and have the language of public life be Russian, removing any need for the settlers to learn the local tongues. Even today many of those can't speak the local tongues
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>>1764779
Same things come to mind with expulsion of germans from eastern europe, especially poland and czechoslovakia. And of course, the Greatest Ally.
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>>1764779
>tfw live in Riga
everyone literally expects you to learn Russian yet they don't bother to learn Latvian and call you a fascist cyka blyat if you ask that they speak in the FUCKING OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF THE COUNTRY
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>>1764779
Ain't Lithuanian like an mix of Russian, Polish and their original tongue?

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Was there ever any amazing/secret shit found out after coup d'etats or changes in Government?

So for example, when Mussolini did his March on Rome and took over Italy, did he find out any fascinating secrets from the previous government?

Or when Napoleon became Emperor?

Surely these men must find stuff out once they take over a ruling body.

Or what about when Governments change over several years, do they find anything out?

Please show some examples, I would love to find out!
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>So for example, when Mussolini did his March on Rome and took over Italy, did he find out any fascinating secrets from the previous government?

considering he wanted to destroy liberal institutions, I'd say no
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>>1764752

The Gommies captured a huge number of documents from Berlin after ww2, which would alone have been enough to prove the crimes of Nazism but of course that all came out via the trials anyway.
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He found a bunch of old paint cans in the garage

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How was life as a factory worker under Stalin's USSR pre-WWII? How was it compared to USA in the same period?
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>>1764528
Lazy slobs.

If they worked as hard as capitalists, then the commies would not have [C O L L A P S E D]
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>>1764777
>>1764528

Gommies had the same level of productivity from their workforce as you normally get from slaves (~33% of a 'free' worker). Turns out, if you force people to work without fair payment, they don't work very hard. Who knew?
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>>1764916

All work in the Soviet Union was voluntary. Nobody was forced to work, and they could take off whenever they wanted without any penalty because all their basic needs (food, housing, healthcare) were already provided by the socialist system. However, most people chose to work purely for the good of the nation.

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So a new study came out which pretty much confirmed that Indo-European invasions were mostly male driven contrast to Neolithic farmer invasion.

http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/09/30/078360

>For later migrations from the Pontic steppe during the LNBA, however, we estimate a dramatic male bias, with ~5-14 migrating males for every migrating female. We find evidence of ongoing, primarily male, migration from the steppe to central Europe over a period of multiple generations, with a level of sex bias that excludes a pulse migration during...
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>however, we estimate a dramatic male bias, with ~5-14 migrating males for every migrating female
So business as usual for Europe?
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>>1764416
>~5-14 migrating males for every migrating female

So rampant homosexuality.
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>>1764428
No they mostly took local females, mtDNA haplogroups stayed more or less the same thousands of years.


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