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ITT we invent a historical fact. Others point out if it's true.

>bubonic plague carriers were trained to use the flute as a means of assassination
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>>1700637
Sassanid Persians were disgusted by the Greeks' boyfucking habits and used it in simplistic propaganda against them
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>>1700637
>Jesus was actually chinese and had a brother named Hong Xiuquan
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>>1700637
The Jesuit missions to China encountered Jews who had never heard of Christianity.

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>ruthlessly exploit, kill, maim, and enslave natives, reducing population by 50% (10 million dead)
>decades later give them their independence
>decide you don't like their democratically elected leader because he wants to actually have the major companies and natural resources to be owned by Congolese people
>have him killed and a brutal authoritarian dictator installed in his place, destroying any chance for your former colonial subjects to have a functioning...
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The guy was just bored. Guy just wanted to practice statecraft.
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Well, it is certainly pretty impressive to outdone Stalin and Mao in deadlines even if you lack in a scale.
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>>1700628

Not an argument.

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FRONT RANK, FIRE!
Why did the Europeans invade Africa, and the Africans not invade Europe?
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I hope this isn't serious.
To answer your question, they weren't as organized as your standard European nation back then, plus their military was nowhere near that of the European one. Numbers was their only advantage.
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The first muslim invasion of the Iberian peninsula was led by a Berber general
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>>1700551
Africans invaded europe a bunch of times

Which seat of power was greatest in Southeast Asia?

I would say Angkor and Srivijaya were great for its time. Even surpassing their mother civilizations from mainland South Asia in glory and sophistication .

Later Ayuttaya and Majapahit were dominant forces

Burma was stronk, but they were mainly just occasional invaders
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>>1700359
>I would say Angkor and Srivijaya were great for its time. Even surpassing their mother civilizations from mainland South Asia in glory and sophistication .
ok.
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>>1700359
Khmer Empire existed longer than Ottomans. So they are pretty based.
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Bagan :DDDD

Is this true, /phi/?
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>>1700920
"No human thing is of serious importance"

sigh...........

ITT: Post good historical quotes

wise, funny, ominous, whatever
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Wallace was pretty funny desu. Sucks people only remember him from the civil rights era and forget when he fucked the democrats in the ass during the 1972 primaries.
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>>1700300

Wallace was based. Theres that story of some hippy calling him a fascist and he just said "I was killing fascist while you were shitting your diapers"
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"I told you so"

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Were these men as really good and pure as people make them out to be or were they corrupt like anyone else?

The reason I ask is because I have read the declaration and constitution, it's all very free and wonderful stuff but I'm really rather suspicious of this narrative. It tends to be that this shit is usually just glorification rather than truth.

So, were these guys really the pure rational men they are made out to be?
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Some of the them were pretty good.

Some of them were willing to grab power at the first chance. The Federalists were pretty shitty.

At the end of the day, the constitution is just a piece of paper, and is unable to prevent corruption and evil.
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>Were these men as really good and pure as people make them out to be or were they corrupt like anyone else?

You're going to have to be a bit more specific considering you are referring to a great deal of people but the high profile ones that everyone likes to talk about (Adams, Jefferson, Hamilton, Washington etc.), were products of their time representing different ideals of their time. They were mostly upper-class, idealistic, educated land-owners. While the government they built wasn't completely free of contradiction, (all...
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>>1700169
unless they reinvented the wheel i doubt it

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Ancient Rome was vastly superior to Ancient Greece you all can suck my fabians.
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>>1699970
I disagree.
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>>1699970
Sassanian Empire was superior to Rome in all regards. They actually had a sense of morality unlike you barbarians.
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>>1699970
>>1699975
Ancient Greece was cool though but fuck Ancient Rome. Bunch of barbarians. Byzantine Empire was cool though.

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I mean like every aspect, the little things most people don't notice.
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>>1699944
You don't. They're retarded. The character of Bugs Bunny is even too complex for them to fully appreciate.
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>>1699944
& humanities was a mistake

I propose we change /literature/ to /literature & humanities/
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>>1699954
How so?

Why are there so many mortal sins?

We're basically all guaranteed to go to hell. No one outside of the god damn Pope has a chance of getting into heaven.
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>>1699932
Early Chirstian communities were arguably stricter.

The cynic in me says that its because guilt and fear are an excellent way to keep cult members loyal
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>>1699932
You can't earn your way into heaven. That's the fundamental point of Christianity. Even the pope has sinned mortally.

Only Jesus was without sin.
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>>1699932
>what is confession
>what is repentance

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What was India like immediately after gaining independence? How did it become what it is today?

>inb4 poo in loo
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>>1699923
pee in lee
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>>1699923
It was busy creating the Indian """""""""nation"""""""" by telling all those independent princely states that they are all "Indian" now apparently.

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Anyone can explain me what made Gustavus Adolphus so great? How did he manage to turn Sweden from a backwater to a force to be reckoned with? What was special about his battle strategy, tactics and organisation?
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>>1699871
It has something to do with cannons. I think he used small swivel cannons drawn by horse. This essentially acted mobile artillery that was deployed where ever needed.
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>>1699871
Yearts of getting his ass-handed by Poland-Lithuania.

Until he became that good that he could hit back.
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http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/17thcentury/articles/geniusofsweden.aspx

When covered in short, volley fire is the main point my professor pointed to.

Good read.

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Vlad did nothing wrong.
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he had a hard life
>pope is impressed by vlads work against the ottomans
>wants to support his campaign effort and start a new crusade by sending money to the king of hungary/croatia, matthias corvinus to give to him
>instead of funding vlad corvinus uses the money on himself
>when finally vlad gets news about the money that was suppose to help his campaign against the ottomans he goes to see corvinus
>corvinus has pretty...
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>>1699852
True dat
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Ottomans did nothing wrong

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How did Russia differ from "real communism"?

What made it's communism fake?
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real communism = it hasn't been tried
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>>1699793

>What made it's communism fake?

It was unsuccessful
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>>1699793
>>1699800
There have been several attempts at communism, but none have succeeded. This is objective fact.

Communism refers to an anarchic society with no class division or private ownership of industry

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Any explanations?
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>>1699765
>Economies get bigger when they add people or get more from their existing workforce. America is doing less of both. The Bureau of Labour Statistics projects that the labour force will grow by an average of 0.5% a year from 2014 to 2024, down from 1.2% annually from 1994 to 2004, because of ageing baby-boomers and low fertility. And productivity growth has stalled. From 2005 to 2015, output per hour worked grew by only 1.3% a year, down from growth of 3% a year between 1995 and 2005. In the year...
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>>1699772
>Optimists argue that this is part of a lengthy hangover from the recession, which should soon end. One contributor to productivity is the amount of capital—for example, machinery or computers—that each worker has at their disposal. The recession sent this ratio soaring as firms laid off workers and left machines sitting idle. Why would firms invest again before they had replenished their payrolls? But this explanation is becoming less convincing. The capital-to-worker ratio returned to its...
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>>1699765
>Pessimists think the productivity problem is chronic. Technological advances, they say, are ever-less revolutionary: Uber is less of an advance than the car itself, the smartphone has not changed office work the way the PC did. Nonsense, reply “techno-optimists”, who foresee huge advances in machine learning and robotics.
>For now, the data support the pessimists. The best measure of technological advance is total factor productivity, which measures output...
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what does his think of Martin Luther and the protestant reformation?
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>>1699732i delete this
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>>1699732
>822 bytes
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>>1699732
No it has to be smaller.

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would it really have been better if agriculture had never been invented
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>>1699681
Go to /b/ bro.
This is not your place.
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>>1699681
Who's stoping you living in the sibirian forest?
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>>1699817
sibirian tigres

>North Korea and South Korea apart from 50 years
>North Koreans and South Koreans can barely understand each others accent and written language.
>North Koreans are basically illiterate in South Korea and vice versa.

>USA and Britain apart for centuries
>Can read, write, and talk with each other in the same language with minimal difficulties and problems save for a small number of choice words.

Can any linguists...
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>>1699560
>Can any linguists explain this?
Are you literally retarded?
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>>1699560
>americans can understand british accents with minimal difficulties
Kek.
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North Korea is lead by an autistic Communist dictator who is trying to continue Mao's planned culture/language activities.

The USA and Britain have been engaged in free and open trade of ideas since the beginning due to shared Anglo-Perfidy.

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Tell me about African American history /his/!!
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> complaining about being slaves for all eternity
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good thread
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>>1699495
They made jazz and cause millions in damage through riots while claiming they did nothing. Apperantly one of them was a president at one point in time.

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Any Jainists here? How does one go about properly practising this fascinating religion?
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>>1699392
Be naked all the time.
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>>1699392
Sikhs believe that Jainism is the only major religion that doesn't provide a path toward spiritual liberation due to it's extreme asceticism.
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It's Jains not jainists. I can only describe it as militant non violence.

Who's the coolest saint?

No pussy saints who turned the other cheek pls
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>>1699231
Saint Guinefort
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>>1699231
Saint Augustine
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>>1699231
The one guy who got roasted alive and screamed, "Turn me over already! I'm done on this side!"

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>accidentally let slip in a Philosophy class that I don't believe in an objective morality or at least I don't think we can currently tell that there is an objective morality
>proceed to get a few snickers and a few looks of disgust
Did I make a mistake /his/?
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>>1698812
You clear don't practice what you preach
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>>1698812
>Philosophy class
Anon...
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>>1698812
Nah, they're just being cunts.
Academia has fads where people all pretend you HAVE to believe in X or Y but it's ultimately still the same "b-because we want it so" bullshit as always.

Why do people conflate Wahhabism with Islam? Wahhabis are not true Muslims. Islam is a complex religion with many great thinkers and sophisticated theology. You should get to know real Muslims, not just the nitwits who want to go back to the stone age.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9dwHYu_EK4
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Muslims are not true Muslims.

There, I solved all of your sectarianism-related problems, forever.

If only the holiest cities of Islam weren't in Saudi Arabia.
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>>1698718
>Wahhabis are not true Muslims
who has the authority to pronounce on who is and is not a muslim?
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>>1698718
In what way are they not Muslims?

There's over 1 billion Muslims you'd think we could figure out what a Muslim is by now

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Three Kingdoms thread?

Dong Zhuo did nothing wrong, y'all rebels justifying yourselves with a fake edict.
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>Previously, in Jiàn’ān fifth year [200], at the time Bà’s younger female cousin was aged thirteen to fourteen years, at her home commandery, went out to collect firewood, and was kidnapped by Zhāng Fēi. Fēi knew she was the daughter of a good family, and so made her his wife.
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>>1698593
>believing wei propaganda
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>>1698581
Reminder to take care of your daaduudu

What does /his/ think of these guys?

Do any other bands make historical music exclusively?
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>crappy metal
>/his/ music

Try again when you're an adult

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzBCiyDkXPw
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>>1698201
>What does /his/ think of these guys?
Don't know them, but if the pic is anything to go by they must be some shitass power/fok metal band.
>Do any other bands make historical music exclusively?
There's many groups of musical historians who get together to make an album on a specific period, like Symphonia Panica, and many musicians who occasionally publish purely historical pieces like Werkraum, but I doubt any actual musician (rather than...
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Sabaton are really fun and catchy. The only people who don't like them are killjoys. They get real samey though. No other band sounds quite like them but all their songs sound quite similar.

As far as historical themed metal goes I think the Gettysburg Trilogy by Iced Earth is pretty dope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M155Er6PFz0

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http://www.dailysabah.com/history/2016/09/13/neolithic-figurine-over-7000-years-old-unearthed-at-turkeys-catalhoyuk

>Archaeologists at Turkey's neolithic site of Çatalhöyük in central Anatolia have unearthed a "unique" complete female figurine, The Ministry of Culture and Tourism said on Tuesday.

Anyone else think it looks like a really fat man? Tits are way too small.
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>>1697731
I can almost smell the rank B.O. and see waves of coloured hair as fats will shill this as an example of ancient beauty standards.
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>>1697731
My ancestors were into that...

Gross
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How did people get that fat back then?

Will getting really good at philosophy help you understand other subjects and more importantly scientific fields? Is the critical thinking that comes from it enough to make a difference?
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Depends. Philosophers will zealously tell you that you literally cannot understand scientific fields without philosophy, but that is retarded. In more technical/mathematical fields it will help you in understanding why something logically follo and getting intuition about problems. But when you want to model shit, the best way to do it is by modelling shit (doing a lot of problems).
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>>1694990
>But when you want to model shit, the best way to do it is by modelling shit (doing a lot of problems).

Of course but will philosophy help you solve them faster than if you didn't study it.
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Nobody else?

If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you.

Gospel of Thomas

Everything comes from God, and so do we and we have great being within us to make great effect.
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& Humanities was a mistake.
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The Gospel of Thomas was rejected by the Christian Church
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>>1712526
Gospel of Thomas is a Christian doctrine centered around the aphorisms of Christ.

What's the weirdest, craziest historical idea/theory that you absolutely believe?
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yeshua had children

not that crazy tho
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>>1708286
believe in true love sealed with a hot kiss lip on lip
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Niccolò Machiavelli was the best political thinker of the 16th century

Why is Satan the reasonable one?
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>>1706158
The symbol of the fallen angel is that of pride
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>>1706165
So?
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>>1706173
Trusting reason over faith in God is devil's work.


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