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>a top-down approach to reform societies never works
When will this meme die?
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>a top-down approach to reform societies never works
Say what?
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>>1686036
Soon
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also katherine the great

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>society spends the majority of its existence governed by monarchy or some form of despotism
>suddenly, not anymore

Is this how it is from now on, /his/?
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>>1685969
plato warned us
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>>1685969
of course, because it is 2016, and history is a straight forward path coming from a bad past with oppression going to a glorious future were everybody is free
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>>1685969
Politic is like any form of human creation, we slowy improve it, Modern western state are some of the most stable state ever. Also agricultural developement and massive technologie improvement have erase some of the most basic revolte reason: FOOD.

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>http://xkcd.com/1732
How wrong is this, /his/?
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>>1685928

100% scientifically accurate.
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>>1685928
>made by a liberal PhD bragging woman
Go figure
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>>1685928
the magnetic poles shift around as the tilt of the earth is effected by the volume of ice creating lob sided wobbles because of the concentration of mass abnormally located at oblongated and opposite ends of the sphere creating an oval type 3 dimentional configeration, gave rise to moon orbit & seasons.

olmecs & proto jomon (pre jiahu, before they jumped islands to japan etc) were australoids migrating from africa-india-australis-asia&america, there was more land above sea level then depicted in...
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Why spend money and resources keeping this guy on an island instead of just executing him for whatever contrived reason? It doesn't make sense, especially considering the first attempt at the island exile thing was a failure.
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He wasn't going to escape from St.Helena, that shit is in the middle of nowhere
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>>1685894
they werent savage barbarians

and theres a fuckton list and line of people to die ahead of him at any stage in the game
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>>1685894

You already make this same thread.

Do you believe in liberty and personal freedom? Of course you do! Here's a couple of questions for you:

Should a person be free to consent to chattel slavery?

If he does, is he still free since he consented?
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>>1685888
>Do you believe in liberty and personal freedom?
No, they're human inventions, existing only due to current morality and tradition.
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>>1685888
>Do you believe in liberty and personal freedom?
No, unrestrained freedom leads to misery and sadness.

People will almost always choose order and security over freedom when given the option.
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>>1685898
>American revolution et al.
Uh

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What are some great historical haters? One of my favorites is Pascal badmouthing Montaigne at every opportunity.
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Leibniz and Newton (hating each other) come to mind. Descartes also responded with bizarre vitriol when Hobbes sent some critiques on the Meditations.
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diogenes hating plato
>Plato was discoursing on his theory of ideas and, pointing to the cups on the table before him, said while there are many cups in the world, there is only one ‘idea’ of a cup, and this cupness precedes the existence of all particular cups.
>“I can see the cup on the table,” interrupted Diogenes, “but I can’t see the ‘cupness’.”
>"That's because you have the eyes to see the cup," said Plato, "but", tapping his head with his forefinger, "you don't have the intellect with which to comprehend ‘cupness’.”
>Diogenes walked up to the table, examined a cup and, looking inside, asked, "Is it empty?"
>Plato nodded.
>“Where is the ‘emptiness’ which precedes this empty cup?” asked Diogenes.
>Plato allowed himself a few moments to collect his thoughts, but Diogenes reached over and, tapping Plato's head with his finger, said “I think you will find here is the ‘emptiness’.”

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How should we call denizens of this board?
I prefer /his/terics.
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/his/torians, duh.

And for the humanities people, just tell them to go the hell back to >>>/lit/
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/his/sy fitters
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>>1685593
/his/terics and similar is the only valid one

Why did cavalry during the Napoleonic era stop using spears? Throughout history the spear has been the primary cavalry weapon because it is superior to the sword from horseback, in reach and the ability to couch it. So much so that the few units who did use spears in the Napoleonic era, the lancers, were known as fearsome units for their lances. But why wasn't all cavalry using lances? Surely it would have been better to have a spear longer than the infantrymans bayoneted musket?
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>>1685530

Different units have different purposes, and different doctrines may make some units, such as lancers, unnecessary

As example, a recon unit whose doctrine is based upon mobility and enemy avoidance would certainly not need a spear
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>>1685644
Yes but 95% of NW era cavalry used sabres only.
why
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>>1685946
Because more effective on infantry when charging
Spears have to be taken out of the dead body after each use, while you can just slash with a saber

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I'm suddenly interested in war tactics but I want to ask for suggestions about good sources where I can learn more about them...

What are some good books, movies, maybe games, etc. that you can recommend me?

Thanks.
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Could you specify which period of war you'd like to know more about?
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You only need to know one thing: If you kill your enemies, they win
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>>1685479

I'm not too much into this so I don't really know where to start... What time period should I investigate first?

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How did lance charges work in a battle?

We have horse tightly packed together, once the lance hits it would impale someone how does the rider not come of his horse with the weight of a human body on the end.

When in formation there would be horses behind you too, so what stops the horses from hitting into each other? If you trample a foot soldier the horse can be unpredictable or get stuck, would the mounted soldiers be able to prevent a pile up?
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>How did lance charges work in a battle?
you stab the fucker with your lance
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>>1685393
But then what drop your lance? Surely that is ineffective, if it gets stuck what can you do its not like a sword cut.
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>>1685392
good question op, bumping because I also want to know more about this

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Which historical melee weapon would be the most painful to get killed with?
I say the warhammer:
>low chance of an instantaneous and fast death
>blunt impact force
>the beak punctures you instead of stabbing you "cleanly" thus damaging many nerves which leads to massive pain.
What do you think?
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>>1685292
bare fists maybe a big rock

especially if its a personalised enemy or something, kills ur family first type shit
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>>1685292
I'd say you have a relatively great chance of being killed instantly with a war hammer. Bladed weapons seem a lot more painful to me.
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>NOT /Pol/

What went wrong? Europeans and Arabs hate them so much. Was it because of their economical system? Their faith? Or what?
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Jealousy of their superior iq
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Complete dishonesty.
History of attacking Christians (Persian conquest of Jerusalem in the 600ads)
Greedy money policies
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>>1685223
Insular
Conniving
Dishonest
Manipulative
Greedy

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Moments you understand you're talking with an a-grade ignorant
"X exists 'as a concept'"
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Anyone who defends;
anarchism
anarcho-capitalism
green-anarchism
anarcho-communism
vountaryism
anarcho-syndicalism
left-libertarianism
libertarinaism
minarchism
nazism
fascism
tribalism
monarchism
democracy
republicanism
agrarian socialism
socialism
communism
capitalism
feudalism
atheism
Catholicism
Protestantism
anyone who ignore the 25 year rule
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'degeneracy'
'cucked'
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"Asuka is best girl"

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What did /his/ think of pic related?
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>>1685177
it's one of the most astonishing movies ever made
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>>1685181
You cheeky wanker
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>>1685177
Has to be seen to be believed. A glorious experience

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Is there any good movies on the Eastern front? The fighting seems far more intriguing than the fighting on the Western front.
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Stalingrad (1993 or thereabouts) is okay.

Come and See is a bit heavy and "artsy" (like, not a usual "war movie") but pretty powerful.

Enemy at the Gates is a fun watch but a bit of an abomination when it comes to history.

Stalingrad (the new one) is a weird one, it is fun but it is a cgi-heavy "unrealistic" movie, a bit like a prolonged video game cutscene.
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>>1685157
Ahh thanks I'll check them out!
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>>1685157
>Enemy at the Gates is a fun watch but a bit of an abomination when it comes to history.
how so? its one of my families classics (fathers side)

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Is Anthony Beevor a good author? I'm reading pic related at the moment and I'm thinking about picking up his Stalingrad book
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Beevor is OK.

David Glantz is better.
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>>1685066
He seems like a great author. Currently reading his book, Berlin 1945, and it's pretty great.
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>>1685066
He's a meme author/historian who favors personal stories and anecdotes from the ground level, so he's not a very reliable academic source.

>>1685213
Very different in terms of style, focus, and sources compared with Beevor. The only thing they have in common is they both write about WWII.

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did he do anything wrong?
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he lost
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>>1685024
What Hitler did wrong is a very very long book.
A shorter book would be what he did right.
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Honest question.

Why did he wear that mustache style? Besides Micheal Jordan he's the only person I've ever seen with that style. Was it a popular style at the time or something? Is there a name for it besides "hitler 'satsch"?

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Why is he considered a bad guy when he did good things? The only error is that he sided with Hitler, but from his point of view it was a thing he needed to do to make Italy great again. You would've done the same!
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>>1684989
I predict there will be tons of shitposting and arguing ITT. Reply to this later if i was right.
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>>1684989
>Why is he considered a bad guy when he did good things?

John Wayne Gacy entertained lots of kids, and he only murdered a few dozen. Guess he was a good guy overall?

>The only error is that he sided with Hitler

That's the stand-out mistake but there are lots of smaller missteps. Mussolini was a smart guy but he lacked the head for politics, he was an artist not a leader.

>You would've done the same!

Yeah...
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If only he had gone to war against Germany on the wake of Dollfuss's assassination, he'd now be hailed as one of the best statesmen of the 20th century for he'd have accomplished more in his life than anyone else

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Central powers managed to knock out Romania and Russia out of the war. They also won a decisive battle in Italy. Now all they had to do is to throw everything they got in the Western front. Despite the initial success, Central powers failed to break the allies.

My question is, did the central powers have any chance of winning the war at the beginning of 1918 Spring offensive? Or at least give them upper hand during the negotiations.

Bonus question: Do you think American army had significant role in stopping the German army during this time?
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>>1684923
Germany's loss was more due to internal political factors than the battlefield.
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>>1684928
Sure
Must be the kikes, Hitler said so
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>>1684923
>My question is, did the central powers have any chance of winning the war at the beginning of 1918 Spring offensive? Or at least give them upper hand during the negotiations.
Winning the war? Certainly not. Most of the ground they gained was either useless, or bought at too high a cost -- which is extremely important, because at this point in time, they do not have manpower reserves, supplies, food, you name it, they don't have it. Also remember that at this point the mutinies...
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If sexual orientation (heterosexual/homosexual) exists, then why did no concept of it exist in the ancient world?
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Because marxists think a person is defined by their actions

Back in durkastan when we were bored and talking shit with the goatfuckers they drew a clear distinction between "being gay" and "having sex with men/boys"

One is an unnatural phenomena and abomination before God, the other is a purely physical act of lust

Apparently you're not gay if you never fall in love with another dude and make sure to marry/have kids
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>>1684863
Nagito worst boy.
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Because packing fudge just used to be something guys did when there weren't any women around. Nowadays thanks to Christianity and identity politics packing fudge means you're gay and you have to have your entire identity revolve around it.

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Was the US doom from the start?

If the American Experiment were repeated could we avoid the federal empire we have today?
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As long as stated refuse to act in the common interest, power will flow upwards.
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>>1684719
This is implying that there is something inherently bad with imperialism which is not true. In fact, if you are powerful enough to create an empire while maintaining most, if not more, liberties that have existed since the country was founded than you have succeeded. In fact, many international relations experts would point at the United States and say they are the pinnacle of a peaceful era globally.
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Just look at the disappointment in his eyes

it knew what it was going to happen

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Did Darwin have an impact on philosophy?
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Absolutely.

Materialists partying hard, and people misreading a description of a natural process of change for another faith to believe in, one of progress and biological "improvement."

It's a milestone in the philosophy of biology.
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Social dawinisim you dole sucker. You need this much help for your homework?
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Maybe positivism was the current ideology at that time. Positivism stating there is a linear course in which history advances, like some sort of "logical evolution to..", had significant effects on many disciplines and theories since XVIII century. If there is an ideology i would relate darwinism with, is that.

How do you group people from this?
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adaptation
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Just curious, what is your take on it?
>Was it still wrong if the victim doesn't feel offended
>Did you ever commit it or is on the receiving end of it? How you deal with it?
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>>1684523
racism is like voodoo

it;s invisible, and you can't hear it, and it makes black people violent because it's a curse born of invisible ill-will that you can never see

clearly the solution is to treat racists like witches and stone them to death
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>>1684523
& Humanities was a mistake
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>>1684523
Not /his/

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>The worst effect of American slavery was the creation of so many new Christians.
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t. 15 y/o atheist
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>>1684494
> spend life fighting against Christians
> islamists establish sharia zones in your homeland

Good call you dead faggot.
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>>1684502
christians are worse than muslims

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The last couple thousand years have be shaped and dominated by war; is it possible that we just needed to 'get it out of our (collective) system' before we moved onto peace? Or am I just being idealistic.
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It stopped being a thing between major powers because of nukes ya dingus.
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>>1684386
The entire history of humans was shaped and dominated by war.

It might be reduced to small-scale conflicts once (if) there is one united earth state and there are no more reasons for global fights over resources. But if you think people can just make the decision to live peacefully together then you're mistaken.
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>>1684401
>one united earth state
I don't think that's a solution

how can one central government know what's best for everyone?

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I am pretty tired reading through the usual/his/ bullshit of religious shitposting or buttblasted slavs memeing about germany so lets discuss an interesting not-discussed-to-death topic.

>How did France manage to fuck up so bad?
>Dien bien phu continued first world war mentality of the french military brass?
>How could France have won?
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>>1684231

If you haven't noticed, Indochina was the first of many post-ww2 liberation wars. In the end, the occupier had to ask themselves; Is it worth it?
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Turns out modern warfare is no longer the same as the old days and that's why the French lost.
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>>1684231
the Viet Minh was causing a lot of problems by attacking when supply chains were weak, and eventually cut them off. At that point monsoon season for SE Asia was approaching (RIP supply drops), and they couldn't risk the manpower / assets by continuing to stay deployed there.

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Okay /his/, how do we know about the ancient world that dated back to mega Finland, for example. Just archaeological evidence? Obviously this pre dates any written language.
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Bump

/his/ pls respond
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Last bump before I give up

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Would you like to be a medieval monk?
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>Would you like to be a heretical papal stooge?
no
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>>1684019
There isn't that big of a difference in the cenobitic monastic life of modern ascetics and those of the middle ages desu. No reason to not just be a modern monk.
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>>1684019
Were they just medieval /r9k/?

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What caused the late Bronze Age collapse? If those civilizations never collapsed would we be more advanced now? How much did that set us back?
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>>1684010
they should rename /his/ to basic bitch /bb/

the bronze age collapse was caused by mediterranean piracy, primarily from northern africa and persia, raiding coastal settlements and destroying the tin trade

you can go ahead and delete the thread now
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Mainly invasion by the sea peoples mixed with economic failings. But there were probably other factors we may never know.
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>>1684010
Santorini


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