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Who were the first Christians?
Also what were the first few churches developed?

Was Catholicism first?
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Oh this will be good.
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>>1635029
I'm actually not shitposting.
are you saying that in a "not a bad topic but it invites thread derailment"
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The Apostles were first. They spread it to communities throughout the Roman Empire. Churches grew in size and bishops were appointed. Over time certain important bishops were designated metropolitans and had de facto authority over others in the area. Then some metropolitans were designated Patriarchs, with the five chief patriarchates of the Empire having joint control (Antioch, Constantinople, Jerusalem, Alexandria and Rome). The Monophysites and Nestorians were declared heretics in the 300s, and so the "orthodox" (Chalcedonian) church only covered Europe and the...
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How did LSD jump from the labs to the streets in the '60s?
Was it solely thanks to Leary and Kesey?
Is there any merit to the allegation that its recreational use was encouraged as a continuation of the MK-ULTRA experiments?
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>>1635012
LSD was already being used as medical treatment before CIA and MK-Ultra.

.t Wiki Scholar.

You can literally use google to cure your ignorance and then this thread becomes pointless.

LSD is baby's first hallucinogenic anyway.
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Forgot pic.
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>>1635012
DUDE

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Could horses really charge into things like spears, shield walls, pikes, bayonets, machine gun fire, etc?
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>>1634960
no
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Yup and that's why in WW2 polish cavalry beat german tanks.
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>>1634960
Nein

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What were the accomplishments of gulag? With all the manpower surely the soviets could've built some fantastic public works. Or was it all just menial worthless punishment labor?
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A Siberian prison camp molded Dostoevsky into the person who would become one of the greatest writers of all time.

So there's that.
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A Siberian prison camp molded Solzhenitsyn into the person who would become one of the greatest writers of all time.


So there's that.
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>>1634962
Doestevsky's earlier works were pretty good too, but yes, without gulag perhaps Brothers Karamazov wouldn't exist.

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Do proddies consider any form of religious art to be idolatry? Do these beliefs vary with denomination? Is there any good proddy religious art?
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>>1634907
Beliefs do not vary with denomination as much as they do between persons.
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>>1634915
>>>/r/atheism
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>>1634915
>>>/pol/
>>>/h/ell

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Is romantic love (and "love" in general) a spook? More importantly, is it a relatively modern spook?
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I was romantically in love with a cartoon character for 4 years.
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>>1634893

Off to a good start, lads.
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>>1634856
Yes, because spooky spookism thinks only of the individual and not of genetic relations.

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Muslims or ex-Muslims of /his/, what happens if one can't afford to go on Hajj? What percentage of Muslims actually go on Hajj in their lifetimes? Where does all that money go? Is the experience really worth such a large amount of money to travel, or is it all just a scam?
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>>1634753
If you can't go to hajj, tehn you can't go
Popular exemptions include if your too poor, too sickly, etc.

All that tourism money basically goes into the Saudi government

A pilgrimage is just that, if your particularily pious then Hajj will be the ultimate trip. Otherwise you'll be disappointed to find out it's just a pilgrims performing rituals.
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>>1634783
Oh and massive racial and class disparity.
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>>1634783
But isn't it one of the 5 pillars? Does that mean poor people can never be 'good' Muslims ?

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Was pre-Islamic Persia an offshoot of Babylonian civilization?
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>>1634565
It's the classic case of a remote warrior culture conquering a highly educated, highly cultured, wealthy society and absorbing so much of the culture of that land that the motifs of the culture they conquered is more prevalent than their original culture.

Like the Mongols and the Chinese
The Mongols and the Persians
The Vikings and the Saxons
The Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Lombards, and Suebi
The Romans
Muslims

By the fall of the Sassanids, "Persia" as a civilization was focused...
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>>1634669
That doesn't apply to the Sassanid's. Arguably the Achaemenids. That's mainly architecture and cuneiform anyway.

Zoroastrian was an offshoot of Indo-European paganism
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>>1634816
>Zoroastrianism was an offshoot of Indo-European paganism.
No it wasn't. If your line of thought is because Iranians are Indo-Europeans and therefore, since Zoroaster was an Indo-European Iranian/Persian who developed his religion, that really doesn't follow.

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Has it helped western civilization in it's advancement?
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It has helped me get my dick wet.
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Depending on who you ask, getting shitfaced was the reason civilization started as a motivation for agriculture.
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I've heard alcohol partly became popular because those who drank it were less likely to get sick than those who drank water. It took humans a very long time to realize that you shouldn't drink water you shit in, and the process of making alcohol often sterilized it.

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Does /his/ have a list of /lit/erature I should read?

Pic probably not related.
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You know there is a /lit/erature board...
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>>1635213
This.

Got "warned" for asking about translations of Der Einzige und sein Eigentum here instead of /lit/
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>>1634205
>Does /his/ have a list of /lit/erature I should read?
Kek. This is some some faggot board with a cannon which you have to learn, like every other board out there.

Fuck off you utter plebeian, you learn what you want.

>is there any history which /his/ said I should learn
>I learn so others know I learn
xD

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itt people that did nothing wrong
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>>1634203
I wouldn't be suprised if the guy was actually paid off by German/Austrian gov to fuck shit up as false flag.
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>>1634233
Same, Austria was just too much of an autism hot pot to let go any chance to expand
Princip was fucking retarded tho, what was his life throught the war?
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>>1634346
He died in 1915 i think. It would be insightful to see what he thought, had he perhaps lived to the 1950's.

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What the fuck happened?

>one of the most successful African nations
>rising black middle class
>best counter insurgent force, held off communists for a while
>both the black and white man were together fighting Marxism
>abandoned because alleged "racism"

What could have been /his/?
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Inb4 muh racism
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what you are looking at is the future of the western world.
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>>1633941
-Bad policies that kept on feed itself
-Reliant on South Africa
-South Africa's bitch and when South Africa stopped giving much support it started to falter.
-alienated many citizens.
-lots of fighting
-sanctions.
-Cold War.

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Dominus vobiscum.
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thanks my dude

you too
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Footus suckus.
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>>1633935
>Foot fetish and mouth herpes be with you!
The nerve these people have to shill for Catholicism in this day and age...

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Is Taoism a religion or philosophy? How does one practice Taoism?
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Just be like, yo, dig this, light and dark arise mutually and it's a deep ineffable mystery of nature like, can't put it into words man. Good and evil, son. It's all in yo mind, illusion, just wu wei and chill breh.
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>>1633870
>How does one practice Taoism?

short answer you dont, long answer is you join a taoist sect
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Most Taoism is integrated into the region's folk religions, so I'd argue it's more on the side of philosophy.

Hence why both it and Confucianism are classified together as Chinese Folk religions despite having different ideologies.

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What documentary/lecture would you recommend for learning about Caesar?
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which Caesar? The actually relevant one or the one who dicked around in Gaul
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>pic of Augustus
Reeeeeeeee
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>>1633630
John Green
tells you everything you need to know in modern perspective (for instance why should Alexander the Great be called great since no woman was called great)

Holy shit, this quote is 2500 years old and is still correct to this today.

How can one man do so much?
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>>1633606
how did socrates solve all epistemology so early
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>>1633606
>Humans are self-ware
>OMGTUIFDWVJ soooo much wisdom
>Brain explosions
This ancient meme needs to drink some of that hemlock.
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>>1633606
>>1633689
Wisdom is knowing not to quote somebody who might not have been real when it makes you sound retarted.

>>1634737
I hate this meme too anon

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How effective where archers throughout the ages?

What made the most kills in battles?
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>What made the most kills in battles?
cholera
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Generally speaking, with a few exceptions, archers were a harrying force to thin out the enemy ranks or attack strategic weak points before the main lines engaged each other.

>What made the most kills in battles?
It's hard to say. Most casualties in any given pro-government battle would be inflicted while one side was retreating, usually by cavalry if there was any.
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>>1633498
>pro-government
What the shit, I meant "pre-modern"

Serves me right for being a phoneposter

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>Is protestantism just a cargo cult of Christianity?
>With lay people dressing up and pretending they're priests?
>Is this why evangelicals and other churches made up in 19th and 20th century don't even try to fake it anymore? Just organize meetings and lectures instead of a regular devoted service?
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>>1633460

>he thinks festooning churches and priests with magical amulets, fetishes and jujus enhances their spirituality
>he thinks several years of ideological indoctrination make people more holy, rather than doctrinally compliant church commissars
>he thinks groupthink and ideology delivered from on high from a remote figure cossetted away in palatial luxury is better than a group or community getting together and thinking and talking...
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>>1633460
Yes
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>>1633511
Ah, protestants like Billy and Benny Hinn makes keeping my catholic faith a lot easier.

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That's a bit of misconception and rampant simplification concerning what happened with the Old Believers. First of all, the Old Believer's were dynamite waiting to happen: there was a strong apocalyptic current in Russia always looking for the sign of the end times and signs of the Antichrist for any little thing, and when the Patriarch changed a bunch of rites, that was more than enough of a reason for them: they said the Church was now taken over by Satan, and that now all Sacraments were invalid: they said now the only way to gain absolution of sins was a baptism...
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>>1633425
Honestly I always found it weird how many breakaway sects there were in Orthodoxy but most of them were either extremely minor or got suppressed quickly. They never saw something like the Catholics did with the explosion of Protestantism, only shows you what incompetent fucktards the Catholics are.
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>>1633425
>So it wasn't really about rituals, it just formed along those lines.
So when it's about other faiths it's an argument about petty rituals, but when it's about your faith it's about serious fundamental issues that merely look like they're about petty issues from an outsider's perspective?
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>>1633463
This wasn't about theologians arguing with each other, it was about a mostly illiterate populist movement who thought the new way of doing things was Satanic (which is a bit absurd, since that would mean the Greeks were Satanic, who were One Church with the Russians, but isolated and illiterate people are not necessarily going to know that). How you cross yourself is not dogma and never has been.

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Do you think the World Wars should be considered a single conflict called the second Thirty Years war?

>The "Second Thirty Years' War"[a] is a disputed periodization sometimes used by historians to encompass the wars in Europe from 1914 to 1945. It is used to emphasize the period as a whole.

>Just as the Thirty Years' War (1618–48) was not a single war but a series of conflicts in varied times and locations, later organized and named by historians into a single period, the Second Thirty...
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>>1633338
No, because future people will have access to the avalanche of primary sources, and they will be aware that everybody in that era considered these to be two distinct wars, and acted as such
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>>1633338
Future generations will probably see the period between 1914 to 1945 as such. Same can be said of the French unrest in Europe between 1789 to 1815.
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>>1633338
I dig it as an option, there was a lot that went on between the two that set it up as the peak and then fall of European global hegemony

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ITT Comfy states/countries that were ruined by foreign countries mucking around in their affairs

Kicking off the thread with Yugoslavia which was torn apart by Russians and Americans both trying to expand their sphere of influince
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Iran used to be pretty based and then the CIA fucked it up
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>>1633008
Minoans until Thera erupted.
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>>1633008
Thebes until Phillipos II

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I don't care much about the details of history but I want to know the basics, so tell me if this is correct:

>Egyptians and Mesopotamians build great empires and shit
>Greeks show up and invent democracy along with philosophy, science, maths, literature, and non-shit art
>Rome brings all those things to new heights and conquers Europe, spreading civilization everywhere
>Catholicism appears, makes science illegal and burns all books and scientists...
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>>1633004
and to think it could have all been prevented were it not for
>V A R U S
>A
>R
>U
>S
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Some posters might nitpick some details, but that's basically accurate and all you really need to know.
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>>1633016
Who?

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What went wrong?
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>>1632938
DEBASEMENT OF THE SILVER DENARIUS
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>>1632938

Envy and treachery.
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>>1632953
>implying he wasn't a tyrant
>implying he wasn't blinded by hubris

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how much better would this world be if both World Wars had never happened?
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A lot
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I think they were inevitable given Germany's growth as a major power and their pitiful colonial holdings as well as ambitions in the east
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>>1632849
maybe we could have had smaller scale wars

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Why did assimilation of immigrants work so well during the 19th century when compared to its contemporary counterpart?
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>>1632742
Number of immigrants
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>>1632742
Because back then, extremely brutal treatment of foreigners barely caused people to bat an eye. Go read about the situation in immigrant ghettoes and all the lynching in 19th century america.
It's the coddling that prevents assimilation. Foreigners need to understand that assimilating would be an advantage to them. As long as you tell them their own culture is fine and good, why would they bother?
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>>1632742
No one was actively working against it. The french government banned it in the 80s. That wouldn't been impossible to even think of a hundred years before

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After the Mongols invaded in the mid-thirteenth century they extracted obeisance , financial tribute , and military assistance from the princes of Rus' lands for at least the next century and a half. As the Mongols lost their grip, the Muscovite state expanded, its tsar enforcing unrestricted despotic rule over all citizens.

By degrees, starting roughly at the end of the fifteenth century, Russian peasants became more and more obliged to their landowning masters. From the late sixteenth century, they—that is, the vast majority of the rural Russia n population—were...
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For nearly three decades during the Soviet period of Russian history, forced labor was a way of life for the millions of inhabitants of the so-called gulag or system of concentration camps. Both Western and Soviet historians have acknowledged that this was outright slavery. With the onset of collectivization in the 1930s an aspect of serfdom was rein - stated, for a large portion of the Soviet population was restricted by means of an internal passport system to living in designated agricultural areas.

To this day ordinary Russian citizens, who often have difficulty obtaining...
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tl, dr
this is not how you start a thread
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Everyone knows the Russkies hate freedom.

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Are Cathars the only eretics that deserved to be eradicated?
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>>1632639
Why do you think they deserved it? Weren't they slaughtered along with all the women and children in Beziers? Seems to me like a pointless crusade desu.
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>>1632639

THE FACT THAT YOU THINK THAT THE CATHARS WERE HERETICS, AND THAT THEY DESERVED TO BE ERADICATED, EVINCES EITHER, YOUR RADICAL IGNORANCE, OR YOUR "EVILNESS", REGARDLESS OF WHICH IS THE CASE, NOONE SHOULD TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW HOW TO SPELL "HERETICS".
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eretic erotic

So I've seen two distinct narratives concerning life in the middle ages (I'm talking 11th to 14th century specifically). Of course the common view is that the middle ages were the fucking worst, that harvests were poor and farming technology made little progress from antiquity due to religious beliefs. Peasant work was back-breaking, hygiene was poor and famines were frequent. But a revisionist narrative goes that medieval people had holidays almost a third of the year, they actually worked many less hours than we do today, and the ''dark ages''...
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middle ages didn't exist
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>>1632595
Every historical categorization is ultimately artificial, and there is debate as to when the medieval period would have begun and ended, but how about we talk about the timespan specifically gave, you fucking pedant.
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>>1632606
no, i literally meant that the said timespan didn't exist. it's forged to history books centuries later to mark their own superiority.

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Who are some historical persons that we can retrospectively diagnose as autistic?
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>>1632534
hitler - on a high dose of retard instead of smoking the kush'
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>>1632534
napoleon was pretty socially retarded
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Julian the Apostate is basically a robot that managed to become emperor.

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This quote sums up /his/ perfectly...

Lao Tsu — 'Those who know do not speak. Those who speak do not know.'
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>>1632514
True that
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>>1632514
why don't those who know speak
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>>1632528
No point, it gets drowned out by all the bullshit.


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