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New 'Panfilov's 28' trailer dropped yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXTFeG6ques

Effects wise it's looking pretty sweet.
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>>1629717
it'll prob be unrealistic as fuck but still entertaining
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>>1629723
isn't the whole story a fabrication of soviet propaganda anyways?
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I'm hoping it doesn't turn into a russian version of Saving Private Ryan, but it probably will

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Could you recommend me books and or documentaries on European history?

I know my request is very broad but maybe there's different sets of books or documentaries that focus on different parts of history and I could organise myself to read them in order.

I've already seen 'The story of all of us' to have a quick glance at world history but, of course, it's deep as a pond.
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Dunno if you'll like it but Historia Civilis focuses on Roman Republic stuff, from holidays to senate position to Caesar's campaign through Gaul.
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>>1629720
I should add; it's on youtube.
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7vdwhuWlWlBVm1pT0Zqd2F1azQ

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Let me preface this by saying I am, indeed, a Christian and have been for several years. Before that, I was raised in a Christian household and am apart of a long line of believers. Take that as you will.

So, recently, I've developed a deep interest in extrabiblical and deuterocanonical texts. The Gospel of Thomas, the Wisdom of Solomon, the Didache, etc. Mostly, how these books were rejected (and others were not) as part of what is Biblical canon.

Christians traditionally hold that men, under the influence of the Holy Spirit, wrote the texts of the Bible...
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the criterias came from this gentleman in the pix who said
>You all are rustling my jimmies
>you have 3 days to finish or I hang you all

hello botched work
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasius_of_Alexandria
Ask this Saint. Read up on theach Holy Father's in general.
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>>1629562
sweet bait, delicious

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I'm getting into geopolitics and world history, what good books can I add to my reading list? Just finished Prisoners of Geography, moving onto World Order by Kissinger.
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>>1629411
You're reading it, but do you understand it?
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>>1629427
I understood Prisoners of Geography, it actually blew my mind at points with things like Russia's strategy in Crimea and such. Ordered World Order, but it's delayed and will probably come tomorrow.
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>>1629411
The World and the West by Toynbee

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Why the fuck did he have such a hate boner for Calvinism?
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Why would you not?

>by the way, it was already decided when you were born whether you go to hell or not
>all of the early Calvinist states turn into Orwellian nightmares
>literally everything fun is banned

It's literally the worst denomination of Christianity. Even the Baptists are better.
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>>1629364
True. I honestly can't understand how people fell for that when it first appeared.
No wonder the countries where it gathered more believers are now some of the world leaders in suicide rates.
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haven't calvinist doctrines been incorporated into other proddy denomination's theologies?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N_RZJUAQY4
I think we can all happily move on now
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>>1629334
that kid is going to grow up to be the next Pol Pot.
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Equality reigns supreme.
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>>1629334
There was one known for years, anon.
Let's not re-invent the wheel here.

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http://www.ipsnews.net/2016/08/the-historic-reversal-of-populations/

What caused fertility rates to fall below replacement level?
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The increasing opportunity cost of children.

Gotta house them, feed them, provide medical care, pay attention to them, and put them through college.

All of these are difficult to reconcile with the workload of a modern professional.

You can increase birthrates by making college, day care, and other kid related things less expensive.
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>>1629343
>You can increase birthrates by making college, day care, and other kid related things less expensive.
Then why do places like Germany have a much lower birthrate than the US?

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Who was England's best prime minister?
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>>1629300

Lord Palmerston.
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I only know about Salisbury & Gladstone and to a lesser extend the guys up to WW1 Asquith, Campbell-Banner then David Loyd George. Though William Pitt & Benjamin Disraeli are at least familiar names so they must have done something right.
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Spencer Perceval (1809-1812)

>be a pure cons
a deep asshole
>apply a strict and draconian cons political program
in a time of riots of hunger
>war with Napoleon
lol so easy then why not make a second war against the US
> get shot
really my favorite english Prime Minister

Thoughts
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>>1629057
I thought Nausea was an ok, if a little bit slow book
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shitter desu
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>>1629057
Is it true 10/10 women couldn't get enough of his cock?

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The First Council of Ephesus laid out the doctrine of Hypostatic Union. Namely, Jesus had two distinct natures, one divine, one human, united in a single body.

This is very important, because it means the human nature of Jesus developed more or less as anyone else. He grew, had puberty, learned to speak and walk just like a normal human being. The human nature was wholly human, just as the divine nature was wholly divine.

And human nature begins at conception. Sperm and egg must unite to produce a zygote, which grows into a fetus. Now, I can almost hear someone...
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>>1629044
what the fuck constie? Get off my board now.
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So this is what the Orthodox church believes?

Wow, that's actually pretty interesting. Makes sense to me.
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>>1629044
That not her trips.
It's not our Constantine
Wow.
You people really are childish.

List material is creepy pasta from RumChicken on veekyforums.

>>1629058
It's not her. Duh!

>>1629082
So this is what the Orthodox church believes?
No

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>iraqi republic
>peoples republic of x
>weimar republic
Why are dictatorships obssessed with calling themselves republics? Why isnt there a cool, hip name for dictatorship?
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>>1629020
>Weimar republic
>Dictatorship
Next time you gonna say that the french republic is an totalitarien hellhole.
Also republic is everything that isn't monarchy or theocracy.
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Go back to Katawa Shitjou, weeb
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>>1629034
since they invented republicanism the french have a pass

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Okay... Was there people who hated the Jews, but opposed Hitler? For what reason?
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>>1628992
Literally Stalin.
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Every normal educated person in polite society hated the Jews before Antisemitism became criminalized, regardless if they supported Hitler or not.
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French.

> The influx of Jewish refugees from Germany and the Jewishness of the Popular Front's leader Léon Blum contributed to a revival of antisemitism in the 1930s. Writers such as Paul Morand, Pierre Gaxotte, Marcel Jouhandeau, and the leader of Action française Charles Maurras denounced Jews. Perhaps the most violent antisemitic writer was Louis-Ferdinand Céline, who wrote "I feel myself very friendly to Hitler, and to all Germans, whom I feel to be my brothers … Our real enemies are Jews and Masons", and "Yids are like...
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>listen to In Our Time
>they talk about Julius Caesar
>they glorify him for killing people and taking over shit
>they mention almost off hand that 100,000 people died in one day (they implied that this was not a sure figure but obviously it was a lot)

How the FUCK can anyone take morality seriously when Napoleon, Julius Caesar, Alexander the great, and Genghis Khan (and eventually Hitler and Stalin and Mao) are WORSHIPPED by the posh historians?...
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>>1628960
What about the extremely rapid pace of technological development. That at least is unique to our age
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if you're a great man the rules change.

If you're a regular asshole way down on the totem pole, you best play by the rules for your own good.
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>>1628960
>How the FUCK can anyone take morality seriously when Napoleon, Julius Caesar, Alexander the great, and Genghis Khan (and eventually Hitler and Stalin and Mao) are WORSHIPPED by the posh historians? Literally lol at someone who died in one of these pointless wars. Literally fucking lol. Please post your thoughts about this. This is like the twilight zone. The BBC will throw mud at you for saying you dislike Islam for not giving women equal rights but they worship killers in plain sight.
Who...
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Who was the most successful populist?

Challenge mode: No Romans
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>>1628868
Maybe William Jennings Bryan? He was appointed Secretary of State, of course that's only with regards to American history. Although Jackson is called the first populist he's not what we tend to think of when people say "populists" today, whereas William Jennings Bryan is more inline with the modern conception of a populist
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>>1628868
Napoleon or hitler? Both elect on universal vote.
Nappy got an advance on the top for being an elected empereur.
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>No Romans
Kys

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>pick up some random meme philosophy because you'd rather try anything at all then live with the world the way it is
>eventually die trying to change things in any which direction
Is he, dare I say, our guy?
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he was massively spooked
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>>1628804
Fuck off
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>>1628804
>spooks

I didn't know this was reddit

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In 1939 more than 10,000 Polish cavalrymen charged against German tanks, but armed with only their sabers and lances the Poles were cut down to very last man and horse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd9hLbvGrWI
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>>1628738
There's not enough Polfags here to catch this bait.
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Poor quality bait
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mokra

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What does /his/ think of Teotl philosophy?

>Teotl is creation. In the beginning there was no 'nothingness' or 'chaos' that needed to be ordered.
>Teotl is not outside of creation. Teotl always was, and just is - it is the only thing that reality is made of.
>Creation came from Teotl, so everything is made up of Teotl.
>Everything is just an aspect of Teotl, because Teotl is to be understood as a process, a state of change, a...
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>>1628676
>And Teotl, it is amoral. There is no realization of good and evil because it just doesn't exist. Destruction and creation are just processes that happen and humans like the rest of creation are affected by it. There is no morality in the changing of the seasons, in the same way as there is no morality in Teotl. Whether the outcome is fortunate or unfortunate is just pot luck. It's nothing personal. There are no grand intentions of goals, they have no freewill, emotions, omniscient...
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Very similar to the Hawaii'an concept of Mana. It interests me that the gods are really just spiritual power and with enough of that power, anyone can be a god- you just need enough sacrifices. And of course, everyone's pretty much a ticking time bomb of Teotl, creating a society very concerned with restraining that power and releasing it in acceptable ways.
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>>1628690
>The deities are just anthropomorphized representations of these aspects of Teotl. And what's more, there is absolutely nothing supernatural. It's all natural. Certain things may be hidden from human perception under ordinary conditions, but there is still nothing supernatural about it. It's all made up of the same stuff.
>Everything is sacred. Nothing is profane.
>Teotl is not limited to being in only a single era,...
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I do really believe that religion does play an important role in a man's psyche, something to believe in, the thought that there's justice in the world and that it's worth fighting for, the thought that there's a place of redemption waiting for us. cosmic order puts a man's mind at ease even when he is hounded by the horrid events present in our world

athiests ignore this psychological need for some cosmic structure as they see it as a obstacle for humanity's rational ascension to something greater yet they themselves are also suffering...
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>>1628603
bump.
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Cool blog
>>>/r9k/
>>>/s4s/
>>>/x/
>>>/b/
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>>1628603
>something to believe in, the thought that there's justice in the world and that it's worth fighting for, the thought that there's a place of redemption waiting for us
Which at the same time is delusion and taken too far will lead to the Islamic kind of determinism, where jihadists will not even aim properly because Insha'Allah the bullets will strike the enemy down.
>cosmic order puts a man's mind at ease even when he is hounded by...
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Any actually good historical novels about Rome?
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>>1628533
New Testament
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>>1628533
Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop
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Spartacus
Kingdom of the wicked
I, Claudius

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Did they have the right to kill him /his/?
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>Haha hey guys maybe we should treat catholics like human beings
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Charles did nothing wrong
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>>1628655
Catholcis are heretics. Fuck em
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>>1628446
>set up a theocracy
>beheads enslaves and massacres 'infidels'
Cromwell was the Protestant Al-Baghdadi.

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ITT: Historical figures who were literally Hitler.

>pic related
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>Judaism
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>judautism
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruv

The Halakha is autistic as fuck
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>>1628211
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So, results are in, in this thread you can discuss them.
Results in image form:
https://my.mixtape.moe/jtxsbe.png
Results in a spreadsheet form for you to analyze and blame shit on individuals.
https://my.mixtape.moe/fdcndp.xlsx
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>>1627626
>https://my.mixtape.moe/jtxsbe.png

NIce. Will you be doing this again in later months? Will there be any elaborations to the survey if so?
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>>1627660
I mean people are free to do whatever they want right now with it, I'll maybe do another one in few months.
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>>1627626
>MY WORLDVIEW IS A PANENTHEISTIC GNOSTIC ONE.

I wonder who could that be...

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>Economics
>The science of dealing with scarcity
>Doesn't take into account the environment, where all resources eventually come from
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>people actually take economists seriously
>mfw
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>>1627488
Current _monetary_ economics don't really take worldly limitations into consideration. We might see economics evolve in the future out of necessity.
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>doesn't know shit about economics
>makes statements out of his ass

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBUGQkpk3RE

Is Lindybeige correct about berserkers? Were they something completely different than what we think?
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>>1627479
Better question is why doesn't he own a fucking comb?

>2 busy doing history to look even remotely presentable ;^)
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>>1627479
I was with him until he said that Berserkers actually didn't do any fighting at all and we're basically a glorified spandau
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Why do people keep spamming Lindy's videos on here

Asume that the opponents are armoured.
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>>1627452
What was the use of bows?

Assume that you don't have arrows.
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>>1627511
People did carry something like a zweihander into battlefields, right?
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yes, they were mostly used for breaking up pike formations. They were large more for cutting through massed pikes than for cutting through armored enemies in a duel. There are some reports of zweihanders being used as anticalvalry weapons, as well, but I don't know as much about that

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So I've been watching a bit of John Greene's Crash Course lately, just meandering through his vids and seeing which one's I agree/disagree with. The board seems more than well ware that he can be just as biased as any other "historian", but one of his vids on the Colombian exchange was actually kind of interesting. Sure, he had the occasional slip of the tongue where he made an implication or undersold on a certain aspect, but overall I thought it was interesting.

But one thing that bothered me during the wrap up towards the end, while he goes down checklist of all the massive changes the exchange caused, was that he never pointed out the elephant in the room; the Colombian exchange was inevitable. Wasn't it?

I mean the vikings got to the new world and settled L'Anse aux Meadows. I think things would have ended up almost as bad for the Natives had the settlement survived, and Europeans used it, rather than the Caribbean as the doorway into the continent.

So my question is, was the exchange really that bad? Was the suffering and unexpected mistakes, on both sides of the Atlantic, possible to be avoided? Was there any hope, as more left leaning thinkers seem to believe, that the Western world could have somehow peacefully opened up relations? Or was the spread of disease that wiped out the natives doomed to cause genocide?
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>>1627010
First please do not compare John Green to historians in any way shape or form. His bad annoying jokes, coupled with extremely biased statements under the guise of being "educational for teens" makes me look for the nearest chemotherapy center every time I watch one of his vids.

And yes, the Colombian exchange was inevitable and a good thing. The only reason liberals talk about it so much is because they're trying to find another way to hate on Europe.

The only way it could have been possibly prevented is if the native Americans actually had slightly decent political systems and technology.
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>>1627010
Even if the Colombian Exchange was inevitable, it didn't necessarily have to be so actively sadistic.

Columbus had natives digging for gold on Islands that had very little and when they failed he'd slice their hand off. He fed natives to dogs and sold 11 year old native girls as sex slaves.
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>I mean the vikings got to the new world and settled L'Anse aux Meadows. I think things would have ended up almost as bad for the Natives had the settlement survived, and Europeans used it, rather than the Caribbean as the doorway into the continent.
I doubt it. The Spaniards and all the others had the technology to just go straight over the Atlantic, they had big ships good for prolonged open sea travel.
When Leif Erikson sighted the Americas people in Europe had ships that needed to take shore far more often, which meant that it would...
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Does anyone here actually have an advanced degree in a history/humanities subject (masters or PhD) and work in your field? If so any advice on jobs or school?
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>>1626766
Of course there is, they're bound to show up anytime on this thread.
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Yeah. I have a masters. I track down leftover WWII ammunition so the bomb squad can come in and remove/detonate it. Obviously this won't be much of a job if you're in the US.
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>>1626950
Neat, how'd you get that job? Do you have a masters in archaeology? Also whereabouts in Europe and do you have any cool pictures from the field? Ever find anything big like a tank?

Can we have another historical sex fantasy thread? Last one was gold
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>>1625791
Lurking for some /u/.

Too bad that's pretty rare.
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>>1625791
>you will never be Joseph and cum in Mary's ass and watch it slowly trickle out into her vagina as she sleeps
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>>1625791
>that face
Gets me everytime.

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/his/ I'm so bummed out I can't have a political discussion with you guys because of the >>>/pol/ rules, because you guys are so much more thoughtful and less uniform than the goofballs over in /pol/.

Can we have a political discussion disguised as a meta discussion?
How has studying history and humanities affected your political views? Was there one thing in particular that influenced you the most?
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>>1625598
Studying history has made me care less about politics and look at things from a more neutral point of view.
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>>1625598
What's this sculpture called?
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>>1625621
It's a statue of Jupiter that was submerged for a while. It's at the Getty Villa.


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