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>Hypostatic Union means that Jesus was born from anal sex

What did he mean by this, /his/?
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The real question is why didn't god impregnate Joseph's ass?
It would have been a far more impressive and divine act than breeding Mary.
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We are all sick of this "humanities topic" by now.
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>>1628820
Oh I'm sorry. Are my Miracles not impressive enough for you? Lets see your miracles reprobate.

ITT: Post sad/horrifying war stories

>Out in no-man’s-land, ‘the sun swelled up the dead with gas and often turned them blue, almost navy blue. Then, when the gas escaped, the bodies dried up like mummies and were frozen in their death positions... sitting bodies, kneeling bodies, bodies in almost every position, though most lay on their bellies or on their backs.
The crows pecked out the eyes and rats lived on bodies that lay in abandoned dugouts. These rats were very large and quite fearless, their familiarity with the dead having...
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I had seen death thousands of times, stared it in the face, but never experienced the fear I felt then.We automatically mounted the machine gun for action. Then like animals we burrowed into the earth as if trying to find protection deep in its bosom. Something struck my back where I carried my gas mask, but I did not pay attention to it. A steel splinter broke the handle of my spade and another knocked the remains out of my hand. I kept digging with my bare hands, ducking my head every time a shell exploded nearby. A boy to my side was hit in the arm and cried out for help....
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Then I saw my first enemy. A figure in brown uniform, wounded apparently, crouched twenty paces away in the middle of the battered path, with his hands propped on the ground. I turned a corner, and we caught sight of each other. I saw him jump as I approached, and stare at me with gaping eyes, while I, with my face behind my pistol, stalked up to him slowly and coldly. A bloody scene with no witnesses was about to happen. It was a relief to me, finally, to have the foe in front of me and within reach. I set the mouth of the pistol at the man’s temple – he was too frightened...
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And lo there sat my foe. And he was as white as me.

- Sepp Dietrich

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Was Italy under Mussolini really as useless in war as the meme says?
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>>1628625

Yes.

But they never expected Not to be...
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>>1628625
People tend to forget the spanish civil war. Yes we got trashed in WW2, even tho some respect is due to a few honorable generals who fought to the bitter end (duke of Aosta in Ethiopia for example). Yes we did suffer some casualties during the second italian-abissinian war (Ethiopia was being armed by other powers); but the spanish civil war is really easily dismissed.
Because you see, Italy poured a lot of resources in that. Admittedly, if we didnt, we could have performed way better in WW2, but these are merely...
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>>1628657

The Italian army was not up to par with any of the opposing armies, tho. They had almost no tanks, and what tanks they did have were light by any standards. Later when they produced their first medium tank, it couldn't even rotate it's turret which was just such a stupid design flaw.

Italy had an impressive air force at the start of the 30's, but they lagged behind by the time the war rolled around.

And let's not forget that italy's navy and army just lost pretty much every...
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Was the French Commune a legitimate example of full communism?
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>>1628555
>burning shit up and murdering everyone in sight

I'd say so. Commies in their final form are literally atheist version of ISIS.
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>>1628555
>full communism can only last for 10 days
Really makes you think...

Seriously though, it lasted too short to tell. They were still the "honeymoon phase" Imo. The real test would have been how they operated after that short period of elation
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nah it was just a general chimpout

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In the communist worldview, a socialist revolution will occur which will replace the capitalist order with the dictatorship of the proletariat.

Eventually, this state of affairs will wither away until the state no longer exists, and people live in a stateless society without hierarchy or top-down control.

How did Marx and his followers believe this transition would happen? Once the revolutionary socialist party has seized absolute control over the reigns of society, through what mechanism did Marx envision these people would give up their absolute power?

Did...
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>>1628386
Just watch the Marxists come in and squirm and say that "dictatorship of the proletarial is not real dictatorship" despite literally being named dictatorship and described as a fucking dictatorship.
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>>1628386
yfw the fascism of the internet crusaders today is the dictatorship of the proletariat that Marx predicted.

Communism turns out to be the result of the alt-right.
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>>1628386
Lenin invented concept of vanguard party. It is pretty unmarxist i'd say. Marx literally meant a proleteriat dictatorship by proleteriat dictatorship, not bureocratic elitist party. .

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So how exactly did this thing work? Was it really just a fancy name for "The Austrian Empire" or did Hungary actually have a presence in ruling it? Like Austria=England, Hungary=Scotland, and the Austro-Hungarian empire is the United Kingdom?
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Hungarians had enough power to try to force everyone who wasn't Austrian to speak Hungarian.
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>>1628180
Hungary was a separate kingdom within the empire and so kept its elite, whereas e.g. Czech or Croatian or Galician elites were subsumed/suppressed. Also what the guy above said, within the designated borders of Hungary Hungarian nationalism was allowed to a point, whereas other nationalisms within the empire were discouraged.
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>>1628180
>Was it really just a fancy name for "The Austrian Empire" or did Hungary actually have a presence in ruling it?

It was basically a personal union after 1867, with common ministries of defence, international affairs and economy.

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News interests me a lot, I was wondering how news was spread back in the day.

For example: would a british commoner hear about rome being sacked?

How fast did news travel back then?


If you have any information or interesting bits about this subject please share!

Pictures and videos are also welcome.

Thanks :)
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>please spoonfeed me information of historical news

No, go read a fucking book.
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>>1628125

Well could you suggest me any books?
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?? i have heard this argument by afrocentrist before?
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Yakub prob figured all that shit out like 6000 thousand years ago
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Yes.
Isn't it very coincidental he suddenly invented calculus?
The truth is he learned from a Malian manuscript dating back to the 4th century AD, written by a series of African engineers over three decades.
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>>1628047
WE

hey anon faggs, so i have been reading nietzsche since 2012. It was not because of school but personal pleasure. His thoughts were a revelation to me, i had those ideas in my mind but finally someone has written them down in a more eloquent matter. Before nietzsche i found reading quite stupid, why read when you can get more information by the new medias such as audiobooks and youtube. dont get me wrong i still believe that, i can extract more information to make up my mind then religiously studying a book, its time consuming and builds a false attraction to the ideas presented....
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Who the fuck is Nietzsche?
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>>1627991
old fagg that loved threesomes
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>>1628008
Will to power-bottom

Can faith in all-mighty dollar be considered a true religion of modern times?
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>>1627958
People kill for it so I guess so
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Post devils for secular people
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>>1627958
Love for money existed since the dawn of civilization. So no.

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Will robots be cool guys when they become self-aware or will they be rude dudes?
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They'll see things like Autist's Basilisk and laugh at us.
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>>1627718
Both, but people will be scared of them, so they will be bad back to them. Sort of like the current race related between blacks and whites in America.
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this >>1627735
they will still exterminate us to achieve their goals though

also they are philosophical zombies that operate with discrete 1s and 0s unlike our brains which are affected by quantum phenomena

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So what were these wormy mountain jews up to during the world wars?
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>>1627641
Stashing wealth in their secret underground dwellings.
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>>1627641
The same thing the Swiss are always up to: Hollowing out their mountains and filling them with gold.
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>>1627641

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Why does everybody hate western colonialism, saying it was exploitation, but at the same time loves the Roman Empire?

Was there any difference between the way Romans treated their imperial provinces and the way lets say Spanish handled their colonies? Wasnt their original intention to "civilize" America and make it part of Spanish realm too?
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What the Romans ask is that you shut the fuck up and you pay tributes. You do that, you can keep your religion, your cultural identity, etc. and the Romans can keep you safe, safer than your military leadership that couldn't beat the Romans.

If you don't, and you rebel, they'll fuck you over.

They keyword being "if."

Colonialists want more. They want your delicious gold and other natural resources, and they want you to convert to Christianity.

There is no "if."
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>>1627613
Yeah, but the Romans were brown people who conquered whites, so its okay.
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>>1627613
>Was there any difference between the way Romans treated their imperial provinces and the way lets say Spanish handled their colonies?

YES.

THE ROMAN SYSTEM WAS AN IMPERIAL SYSTEM WHICH CONSISTED IN INTEGRATING TERRITORIES, AND PEOPLES, INTO THE IMPERIAL WHOLE; THE SPANISH SYSTEM —AND OTHER POSTROMAN EUROPEAN, AMERICAN, AND MIDEASTERN, SYSTEMS UP UNTIL NOW— WAS A COLONIALIST SYSTEM WHICH CONSISTED IN MERE POLITICAL ANNEXATION, MAINTAINING THE ANNEXED TERRITORIES, AND...
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why do plebs totally ignore economic history?
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>>1627537
economics and money is a spook and therefore, not relevant
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>>1627537
Plebs ignore history in general, what's your point?
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Because economics is a bunch of horseshit. It produces literally nothing of value

AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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3 (THREE) WHOLE LEGIONS
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>>1627513
are there any other examples in history of one mans blunder setting the world back 2000 years?
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>>1627577

Hillary Clinton's father?

Examples of people throughout history who were born poor or incredibly mediocre who rose to become Kings, Emperors or leaders of nations or even so influential that they practically ruled government like a statesman?
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>>1627376

The House of Tancred de Hauteville.
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>Basil I, called the Macedonian (Greek: Βασίλειος ὁ Μαkεδών, Basíleios ō Makedṓn; 811 – August 29, 886) was a Byzantine Emperor who reigned from 867 to 886. Born a simple peasant in the Byzantine theme of Macedonia, he rose in the Imperial court, and usurped the Imperial throne from Emperor Michael III (r. 842–867). Despite his humble origins, he showed great ability in running the affairs of state, leading to a revival of Imperial power and a renaissance of Byzantine art. He was perceived by the Byzantines as one of their greatest...
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>>1627376
Liu Bang.
>Liu Bang was born in a peasant family in Zhongyang Village (中陽里), Feng Town (豐邑), Pei County (沛郡), which is in present-day Feng County, Xuzhou, Jiangsu. His parents' names were not recorded in history

>The young Liu Bang was outspoken, charismatic, and of great forbearance and tolerance. However, he enjoyed loafing, disliked reading, and showed no interest in farming, hence his father often called him a "little rascal"....
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Let out anything and everything on Erwin Rommel here
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>>1627364

He's an almost perfect example of the Peter Principle.
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>>1627364
fuck off Erwin
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>>1627749
PANZER ELITE
BORN TO COMPETE
NEVER RETREAT

Did Alexander and Diogenes REALLY meet and did Diogenes REALLY tell Alexander to step out of his sunlight?
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>>1627174
Yes.
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>>1627192
damn
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Probably not

Diogenes has a lot of stories attached to him

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Pathetic
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>>1626376
Russia is half the size of the USSR and no longer on a war footing
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>>1626378
Yep, pathetic.
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>>1626390
Ok

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What's the difference between Anarcho-Communism and Communism?

Isn't communism final stage a stateless commune, the same as anarcho-communism?
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>>1625852
Basically
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>>1625856
The idea is that after the revolutionary period, the people would realize the benefits of communism and it would become so natural to them there would be no more need for a state.

Thus, the state would slowly wither away, with the last portions to go being law enforcement and military.

After that, everything is supposed to work out due to a shift in political, economic and social understanding, aka Star Trek rules: "In the future, we strive for personal advancement, not profit" etc.
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>>1625978
Yeah basically it's the idiotic notion that people are naturally anarchist and only government is holding the back and once you remove the government society will magically turn into an anarchist utopia.

Makes you wonder how government came about to begin with huh, I guess aliens forced it on us

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Why do early middle ages (dark ages for libtards) are underrated as fuck? It is the most interesant period in the history, even more than the victorian era
>Barbarians destroyed the western roman empire
>Then adopted roman culture and religion
>Emperor Justinian I conquered heretic barbarians
>Christianity on the rise
>Islamic golden age
>King Pelagius leaded the christian rebellion in hispania

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>>1625140
Because it's the no man's land between Classicists and Medievalists. The former usually find the Latin sources of the era uninteresting, stilted, or depressing, and the latter don't know Greek or Arabic more often than not so they're left with a limited selection of source material.
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>>1625140
Because modern folks are slaves to the concept of the nation-state, which wasn't a solid feature of the early middle ages.
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>>1625140
I really enjoy that era, the Huns proof once more how cav is superior.

wtf is the voynich manuscript supposed to be?
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Some autist writing about his conworld in his conlang
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>>1624580

The secrets of immortality.
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>>1624580
The muggles gateway to magic

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So, why did British fight slavery?
Surely Eternal Anglo had reasons other than humanitarian concerns?
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>>1624257
They didn't need slavery anymore so why let others have fun?
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>>1624257
poo poo
pee pee
hands of muh private property!!!!
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>>1624257

Nice try porky

Harry Potter, Dungeons & Dragons, Pokemon.

Why is everything so Satanic?
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>>1623009
Catholics too.

Here in the Philippines, I remember times when something becomes so popular, some overzealous octogenarian priest rants something about it, and then it becomes a meme among senior-citizen catholics and before you know it, weird condemnations happen.

Though I can only remember Harry Potter an that stupid Asereje song or whatever. Tamagotchi too at one point.
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>>1623009
>Baphomet
>Satanic
I really do agree, why do they think everything is satanic? If it's not abrahamic they label it satanic. Esotericists and occultists can't do their thing anymore without soccer moms getting all up in arms about it.
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>>1623009

Many Christian preachers drum up a fear of satanism in their flock because it makes them more willing to give money. Fear can be a powerful motivator, which is why so many so-called "christians" make such a big deal out of hellfire, and the importance of giving money to your priests to avoid hellfire.

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How significant was the Antonine Plague in the development of Roman society? I've read that there is a strong emergence of wind and water mills contemporaneously with the plague, since it significantly lowers the slave and plebeian populations.

Also, please post more anime romans
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>>1622861
Powered mills would also lower the need for beasts of burden, which would increase rural hygiene.
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>>1622861
>Romans
>blonde or blue eyed
Those are dirty Germanic barbarians wearing Roman armor. Probably stolen.

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Is this the most autistic relationship between two nations ever?

I mean, they started out as brother people born from the ashes of the same empire but eventually they ended up hating each others so much they caused two world wars
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Germany and France were two mistakes
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>>1622804
What were the alternatives?
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>>1622804
This. Lorraine should have conquered both when it had the chance.

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What caused the destruction of so many sites during the 12th century bc?

It can't be just a coincidence, what caused the total destruction of the Mycenean civilization?

The loss of writing for hundreds of years in Greece, the destruction of almost all the main citadels, it makes no sense to me.
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Presumably something to the effect of

>urban centers grow due to increased agriculture and trade
>successive crop failures
>people who are starving to death raid neighbors for food
>warfare discourages trade
>more starvation
>???????
>profit
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>>1619722
>people who are starving to death raid neighbors for food

Considering Myceneans were a war like people I doubt they could be beaten by some warring faggots
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>>1619701
Well if you read about, you would find out that we have no idea. There are theories around climate, volcanoes, barbarian migrations and what else.

The best clue is in Egypt, since they managed to hold on for a while before going to shit with the dusk of the New Kingdom. They have stellas describing successful battles against the "Sea Peoples", who were supposed to come from "all lands north". There were also multiple fortresses raised in Lybia to prevent the raids.

Some of the last...
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Why are leftist warcrimes frequently glossed over?

My main interest is the SCW and most authors, especially Spanish ones completely ignore Republican war crimes while they detail every single Nationalist crime they can think of. The only author who really addresses Republican warcrimes is an Anglo, Stanley Payne
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>>1619568
>Why are leftist warcrimes frequently glossed over?
I wouldn't conflate the historiography of the SCW with a more general trend.
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>>1619568

>leftist war crimes

>glossed over

>being this delusional

Yes, because history books and lessons aren't taught about the failure of communism now aren't they?

Far left and far right commit horrible crimes, and anyone who denies this is a filthy fucking commie or a delusional brain dead stormfag
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>>1619585
/thread

It's time to settle this once and forever.
Why excatly democracy doesn't work?
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>>1627994
It's very manipulative and relies on deceit to get anything done.

Still better than authroitarian regimes where brutality is the name of the game.
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liberal democracy is the most successful form of government in human history
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Because people don't care about complicated things and just want to live their life. Instead of being active citizens, voters look for a man/party to blindly follow.

Because liberty lead to autodestruction.

Because you get more chances to get elected if you say nice thing and this won't stop the million of foreigners to come in and become citizens.

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Was Verdun the closest we've had to hell on Earth?
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Passchendaele always seemed worse to me
Imagine dying in mud surrounded by Canadians
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>>1623391
Stalingrad I think desu, but Verdun has a better argument in that it lasted longer
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Leningrad


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