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Will the christians on this board ever come together and do something for the betterment of the world? To show how good of an example a christian shitposter is?
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There are more Catholics than Christians here.
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did you see this on /tv/ too?

Anyway doesn't the Catholic church provide literally billions of dollars in material aid to Africa yearly? As well as operating things like schools, orphanages & hospitals which provide invaluable services? Someone probably knows the exact figures.
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>>1593465
Thread status: Derailed

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Christians how do you reconcile the fact that God made many proto human monkeys with consciousness?
Some of which didn't even contribute to our dna
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>>1593381
I post deep-retro political cartoons and cast vague aspersions.
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One explanation I've heard is that the story of genesis is a metaphor for rising consciousness in hominids until "The Fall", where we understand good and evil. This explanation doesn't really explain why its humanity's fault though or why is considered an original sin. If anything it was God's plan.
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>evolution
>scientists
>implying

Is it truly reliable, or is uniformitarianism a crock of shit?
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>>1593301
Man if you were gonna whine about computational modeling of some shit maybe but uniformitarianism? Yes, really, rocks are real and stay where they're put with some famous exceptions.
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>>1593301
Typical science focuses on precision. Historians on the other hand can only claim what probably happened.

China was ahead in 1000, but Western Europe has been ahead since at least the 1500's (in terms of GDP per capita).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Divergence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_by_past_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita#World_1.E2.80.932003_.28Maddison.29

What marked the beginning of the great divergence?
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China has been culturally stagnant for about two millennia, while the West has been developing exponentially since the 10th century. By the 1300s it was already ahead of everyone else in science and technology for example.
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>>1593201
The discovery of America. All you can eat gold and land. Plus more wood than Europe had ever had.

Also the Dutch revolt and the new social systems it introduced.
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>>1593225
Italy was significantly ahead of China before colonization had really taken off. If anything I think colonialism was a symptom of Europe's progress, rather than a cause.

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If you think this is a relevant historical document you have no critical thinking skills.
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Ok
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>>1593114
It's an incredibly historically relevant book, unless you think a book which shaped our history is historically irrelevant?

The word you were looking for was accuracy, you were looking for accuracy.
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>>1593114
But it is, and for all sorts of non-theological reasons. For instance, the Bible is one of the few sources for Philistine words; because of it, we can know with reasonable certainty that they were Indo-European, given that their names are a mix of IE and Semetic words.

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Is Free Will an Illusion?
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I'll bait,
No
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It should be bannable to start a free will thread without at least attempting to give a definition of free will
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Free Will is a manmade concept, like time. It creates a comforting category of which to attribute human behavior. And in a world of deterministic physics, it all never mattered and we are subjects to the whims of probability and the initial conditions.

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>be an upset with British rule
>decide to engage in light banter
>call them names and throw fluffy snowballs at them
>they shoot you
Never forget british war crimes.
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> the unconscious cruelty, the persistence, the slow yet efficient intelligence, the sexual apathy, the calculating taciturnity
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>>1593081
>Be redcoat in Boston
>Need more taxes cause we gotta defend the colonies
>Stupid fucktards chimp out at us for doing our job
>Throw shit at us and abuse us
>Retaliate
>John Adams later defends me in court
>DEY WUZ GOOD COLONISTS. DEY NEVER HURT NO ONE
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>refuses to give colonists representation in parliament
>unlawfully shuts down colonial governments and installs impotent yes men to rule in the kings name
>allows British soldiers to escape trial in the colonies despite the fact that they received fair trials in the past
>ignoring the sacred right of private property and letting soldiers steal from loyal servants of the crown
The British Empire is history's greatest meme. I'm glad it's...
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Tell me about the Second Congo War /his/

Was it really an 'African World War'?
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>>1592922
Well it was certainly a clusterfuck of major proportions.

I think it cemented the still tribal nature of Africa. Rwanda is a descriptive state. It has a very large population made almost entirely from a single ethnic group. This gave them a huge advantage over the Congolese. The rebellions in eastern Congo were ethnic based, and though other states joined based on ideology, it's whole basis was ethnic.
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Best comparison I've ever heard was with the 30 Years War

Just a big, gruesome, pointless, clusterfuck of rape, torture, massacres, famine, disease, religious fanaticism, ethnic hatred, profiteering, and power mad strongmen
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based rwandan paratroopers

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Were the Sumerians related to Indo-European Caucasians? We know their language has no relation to Semitic ones, so who were they? What did they look like? Racially/ethnically, did they resemble Caucasians/Caucasoids?
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>>1592622
They were Turanic
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>>1592625
>Turanic
A memeword if there was one.
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They are known as the "black headed people" afaik, so I'd say its a safe bet to say that they weren't blonde, at least.

Their languag ealso has no relation to indo-european ones, it's generally consired a language isolate, but I think there are some lexical matches between sumerian and Hurro-Uratian languages.

Personal guess based purely on speculation is they'd look something like pic related, but dont tell the chechens as they're awful enough as it is.

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I know literally nothing apart from it seceded from Nigeria.
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>>1592552
Flags pretty neat though
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Igbo people, happened to live over oil and minerals, portuguese, israeli & south african support, were slaughtered, no one cared
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Biafran anthem was the melody of the symphony Finlandia by Jan Sibelius
Totally not serious

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Was colonialism and slavery really necessary for the Industrial Revolution? Could Europe industrialize without them?
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Why do you think slavery was related to the Industrial Revolution?

Slavery was for extracting raw materials like Silver and farming cash crops like Indigo, Cotton, Sugar etc...
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>>1592477

We often hear argument that slavery and colonialism generated capital that was reinvested in industrialization.
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>>1592467
The Industrial Revolution occured in Europe, where no slaves were used

>Luther, that disaster of a monk, restored the Church and, what was a thousand times worse, Christianity, at the moment when it lay defeated...Christianity, that denial of the will to life become religion!...Luther, an impossible monk who, for reasons of “impossibility,” attacked the Church and — consequently! Restored it...The Catholics would have good reason to celebrate Luther feasts, to write Luther plays...Luther — and the “moral rebirth!”

>...they also have on their conscience the uncleanest kind of Christianity there is, the most incurable, the most irrefutable: Protestantism ... If we are not finished with Christianity, the Germans will be to blame ...

What did he mean by this?
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>>1592416
I assume that the reformation made defending Christianity and Christian values of supreme importance for both sides of it, at a time when the church was decreasing in power.
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>>1592427
So Luther really is the blunder of German history?
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He meant HURRRRRR I'M A HOERS

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I view life in a detached way. By life I mean living organisms. On Earth strands of protein give rise to living organisms like on Jupiter anticyclonic storms give rise to great red spots. Life is simply a phenomenon like weather. There is no abstract reason for it.

Like local weather is shaped by complex weather systems our emotions and thoughts are just as mechanical.
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I view humanities as a mistake
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>>1592211
So do a lot of other people.
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>>1592206
Damn, allthose typos. I need my coffee.

Let's talk about Easter Island, /his/.
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>civilized enough to create huge head statues
>nearest inhabited island over 2,000 kilometers away
Impressive.

Only really died out because of disease European slavers.
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Easter?
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Easter?

Can someone explain me why the Arab nation identifies itself with the middle moon? Any historical fonts will be welcome.
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It was first a Byzantine symbol, then when the Turks took over they started using it, then in the 20th century it became a symbol for Islam in general
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>>1592063
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah_as_Moon-god
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>>1592063
>the Arab nation

wut

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/tg/ here. What were some of the major trade items between Britain and China going through the British East India Company during the early to mid 1600s? I need it for a game.
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>>1592049
O p i u m
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>>1592049

You should ask that on /tg/
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>>1592062
>1600s

It would be tea

We know that ghosts did not exist, then why do we still fear them ? In a subconscious way. Like feared of staying overnight in an abandoned house, cemetery or the woods ?
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Shit can kill us more easily at night.
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>>1592035
Partially that you can't see predators coming, also part of you considers it as a real possibility
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>>1592035
Humans are not nocturnal.

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Why didn't the Allies attack literally anywhere else but Normandy or Calais?

Everywhere else had minimal fortifications. Even if surprise was lost attacking the western coast of France, it would take awhile to bring in anything more than the immediate reserves.

Was getting paratroopers there the primary limitation?
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>>1591876
Because the range from south of England to France is the shortest I think and best suitable for an invasion.
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>>1591884
Boats have long range though.
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>>1591876
It would have been infinitely easier from a logistics perspective, and the masterful deception tactics used in the leadup to the landings negated much of the advantage the Germans had in terms of fortifications.

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Vikings were dog shit
>hurr le ebin raids

yeah killing unarmed people is such an achievement

why are scandinavians such fucking niggers? They even lived in straw huts.
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>>1591720
cool post and all but
warhammers>swords

fite me
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>>1591732
Halberds > warhammers.
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If the Aboriginals colonized the Americas before the Siberians did, would the colonization of Europeans have failed?
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>>1591657
if anything it would be easier, natives at least had civilization and armies, can't say the same for abos
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Unless they have guns, horses and warships, the Europeans would probably still stomp them.
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>>1591670
You are mistaking because you do not take into consideration the million of possible scenarios that could have happened. Idiot.
>>1591671
The Indians lost because of diseases not because of technology, see 1491 and 1493.

Aboriginals have a highly effective fire regime which could have changed the Americas. See the book "the biggest estate on earth".

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>the US army managed to LOSE a battle against Germany
>in fucking early-1945
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>western """front"""
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YEA ok. im sorry AMERICAN flag on moon!
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>>1591570
raping and destroying half of europe doesnt count as a front, Igor

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Is there any scenario possible in which Britain or France helps a side directly in the US Civil War?

In fact, why wouldn't they? If Britain supported the South they'd cut one of their main competitors in half and get a loyal trade partner and maybe even some northern territory out of it.
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>>1591420
Why would they?

>If Britain supported the South they'd cut one of their main competitors in half and get a loyal trade partner and maybe even some northern territory out of it.
Or maybe they won't.
Do you think major geopolitical decisions are made based simply on what the best possible outcomes could possibly be? Are you Adolf Hitler?
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>>1591443
The Union Could never invade Britain. Worst outcome for Britain is neutral peace with no gains or losses. Why not?
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>>1591420
brits outlawed slavery universally around 1800

its why the south/america exists at all really, nth came in line to pax anglo, why would britain ever support the south?

american historys worse then australian
awkward

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Tell me about this shitfest /his/. I can't wrap my head around it. Also any information between 1490-1520's Europe would be a great help.
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Knew I had this somewhere.

It hilariously shows that France and Venice were in the right.
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Have this pasta while you're at it too.

Were did it all go wrong?
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>>1591355
Religion
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>>1591355
The death of Tito
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>>1591355
top parts have belonged to venice/rome
middle parts are illyrian hist
macedonia is a story about a man who took his seige engines for a walk
serb rkd muslims

didnt go that wrong

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Why do antisemites still insist on criticising Israel defending itself from genocide even after 11 million were killed in the holocaust?
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I understand your sentiment but things from the past do not make something immune to criticism.
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>>1591200
>being this anti semitic
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>>1591181
>Some definitions of the Holocaust include the additional five million non-Jewish victims of Nazi mass murders, bringing the total to about 11 million.
Are you memeing? 6 million Jews were killed.

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What historical figure lived the most interesting life?
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Jesus Christ.
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>>1591039
Nappy got the most interesting posthum life, Romantic(often French) can't stop jerk on him.
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>>1591039
Voltaire

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>he doesn't venerate Mary
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Why do Orthodox think Mary was raped?

Surely that's heresy/blasphemy?
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>mfw I found a charm of Mary that said "the sinless virgin" on it
Don't worry. I smashed it with a hammer and threw it into the lake.
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>mfw Early Christians love to worship dead people remains

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Was the Victorian era even real??
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>>1590921
It was just a meme lad.
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>>1590929
See that's what I thought. No more yahoo answers!
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>>1590921
Underrated thread, desu

Let's have a Germania thread /his/,
dump pics, share any interesting facts you know, clear up misconceptions and myths, and ask any questions you have about these mysterious people.

I'll start with a couple of questions. What are sources are there other then tacitus? which are the most detailed? And why does there seem to be a big difference between bronze age germanic people and iron age? It seems that they declined in technology, wealth and sophistication. I know that trade routes with central europe broke down and that this is where they imported all their...
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If only like 2% of Americans owned slaves, and assuming the south wasn't the only place, even if the majority was there, why do people say the South's economy was based on slavery?

Were cotton farms like today's megacorps or something?
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>>1590782

>were cotton farms like today's megacorps?

Yes except even more ingrained in society and the economy. Keep in mind those 6% of southern white slave holders made up majorities in all southern legislatures. They controlled the south.
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>>1590782
"King Cotton" wasn't a meme.

Remember the 3/5ths compromise? People were quick to point out that enslaved people didn't count as "people" in terms of voter representation, and that pissed off the Southerns who'd lose political power. So, they wanted representation, giving their states more political power. The North was like "so they're subhuman sometimes?"

These kinds of political shenanigans are everywhere in the history of the American South
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>>1590782
2% didn't just own 1 slave. They usually employed dozens to hundreds.

So the population of slave to non-slaves are around 20% - 80% instead of 2%.


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