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>Jews and Islam are out because Jews and Islam
>Paganism is out because it's just an epic meme, anyone claiming to be pagan on this board is a LARPer who has never attended a pagan service outside of an imageboard. Anyone who's ever attended a real pagan service knows that it's the sheer definition of new-age bullshit
>Protestantism is out because anyone with a sense of early Church history knows in two seconds flat that it's bullshit
>Catholicism...
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But anon....I am Orthodox :3

And I am a girl like Constie
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>implying Orthodox aren't some of the biggest LARPers around
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>>1580185
>>Paganism is out because it's just an epic meme, anyone claiming to be pagan on this board is a LARPer who has never attended a pagan service outside of an imageboard. Anyone who's ever attended a real pagan service knows that it's the sheer definition of new-age bullshit

Oldest religions on earth are "new-age" . Kill yourself

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Can perception of history be changed through politically biased mass media (trusted by the mass)
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>>1579172
>black germans armed with t-gewehrs equipped with footlong bayonets
shoot me before they add akimbo mp18
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>>1579172
>Can perception of history be changed through politically biased mass media
Are you kidding? Things people unironically believe because of biased media:

>The United States won WWII singlehandedly
>The Soviet Union won WWII singlehandedly
>The French Resistance was crucial to victory in WWII
>Vietnam was extremely bloody for all involved
>Vietnam...
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>sniper rifles with bayonets
For what purpose?

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Please explain to me why "minor" crimes deserve "minor" punishments, as is done all over the world.

Willingly, knowingly breaking the social contract in ANY form should be considered a heinous crime in and of itself and deserves brutal punishment.

The notion that "minor" offences even exist is giving tacit approval to many kinds of antisocial behavior, which can only make the world ill.

Did anyone in history have similar ideas about law?
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>>1581958

Because there's an upper limit to the kind of punishments you can dole out, usually at some form of horrific execution.

If you start giving out serious punishments for relatively smaller crimes, criminals escalate the crimes they do commit because hey, they're going to be executed anyway if caught, right?

Do you really think a system where someone would seriously consider murdering a witness to his jaywalking to be a good idea?

And I refuse to believe you've never heard about Draco.
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>>1581958
Because you get V for Vendetta when eventually people get pissed that their little brother was mutilated for j-walking.
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>>1581977

This is a history forum, if you want to talk about fantasy animals you can fuck off to /tg/.

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>The Ottoman Empire did anything wrong

Its a fact that the Balkans was an objectively better place when the Ottomans ruled over it.
Before any Serb shit posters chime in, remember you sided with the empire against Christiandom on a number of occasions. Ottoman Empire true successor to Rome.
Europe doesnt exist without the Ottoman Empire

Ottoman thread.
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>>1579372
>Ottoman Empire true successor to Rome.

*sigh* This is why I hate /his/ and think we should have flags. It essentially is just /pol/ or /int/ with dates.
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Nothing good ever comes from Muslims in general.
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>>1579378
What exactly entitles the
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>R
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or fucking Russia to be known as the successor to Rome more than the Ottoman Empire? At least the Ottoman Empire was occupying the space of the Eastern Roman Empire and carrying on the ideals and traditions of the Roman Empire

>>1579385
K.

>Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others

Still true? I feel more and more disillusioned.
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Read Plato and Aristotle.
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>>1579212
Only those who perform a public service (military, work in hospitals etc...) for a minimum of 5 years should be allowed to vote.
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One vote per household.

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Why was the Luftwaffe the greatest and superior airforce of WW2?
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>>1579119

They objectively weren't in that they kinda lost really badly.
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>>1579119
>No plane will fly over reich territory
>Gets bombed to hell and back
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>>1579119
What possible metric are you using to calculate that?

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Every time somebody asks for evidence of a god I bring up the Kalam cosmological argument. This is usually dismissed immediately and when I ask why they typically just respond with "it's old" and "or its been disproven" and they won't touch it anymore. With the "discovery" of the Big Bang we now have scientific proof on top of the philosophical that the universe isn't eternal so it must have a cause outside of the universe that explains itself. Current science only reinforces the argument.

Are there any real objections to this...
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Aquinas argues in favor of a generic God not the Christian Trinity. Even Muslims and Deists can use his arguments. Just thought I'd say that.
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what if I just...I dunno ;)...rejected aristotelian metaphysics? :* B)
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> Everything must have a cause. Therefore, God should exist!
> So... What is a cause of God?
> Don't be a retard! There is none. It isn't like anything must have a cause to exist, anyway.

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Should greater reparations be made for the Native Americans and Slaves?
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>>1578285
no
now back to the reserve/ ghetto
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>>1578298
Why are you so bitter?
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>>1578300
Oh, I just realized, because 4chan is a reserve/ghetto for social pariahs.

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what do you do
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Farm my piece of land
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have hot incest sex with my ancestors
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>>1578201
Start the Reformation early

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> Literally invented fascism as coherent ideology
> Cucked king of the Italy himself out of his power
> *timeskip*
> He is little more than Hitler shit show sidekick
Can someone explain how he fell so hard in the grand scheme of things?
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>>1577954
Hitler was more.... you know memeful.
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>>1577954
He had a terrible sense of judgement. Should've allied himself with the Anglos and French or at least stayed neutral. Nothing good ever comes from siding with the eternal Kraut.
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>>1577954
At the end of the day, Il Duce was more Italian than Roman.

/his/ needs more art threads. I'd like to dump all of Frida Kahlo's paintings, but I probably won't get to Viva la Vida today.
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What is the moral difference between state sanctioned violence and your run of the mill violence?
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>>1583792
State sanctioned violence is ok because I say so
Run of the mill violence is not okay because I say so
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>>1583792
State sanctioned violence against people outside of the state benefits everyone within the state. Run-of-the-mill violence benefits only the perpetrator.
Generally speaking of course.
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>>1583792
you won't get arrested for state santioned violence

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Give me a one good reason why Communism should be tried again.
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>>1583580
>again
First (You)
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>>1583583
>le no true communism
This literally means commies are so fucking inept they can't get it right a century and a half later
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>>1583606
those were not commies

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There are numerous case studies from the likes of the late Dr Ian Stevenson and Prof Jim Tucker, of the University of Virginias Department for Perceptual Studies, that point towards reincarnation being more than just a hippie meme.

While case studies alone can never be full proof of a theory, they are at least promising.

Whats the opinion of /his/ on reincarnation. Does it have a degree of merit or is it just hippie bullshit?
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Whatever hippies believe I disbelieve.
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>>1583520
more likely to be real than any form an eternal afterlife
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>>1583520
>While case studies alone can never be full proof of a theory, they are at least promising.

The plural of anecdote is not data.

>>1583564

This.

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ITT: people who look so evil you wonder how anybody took them seriously

I'll start with Trofim Lysenko
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Easy mode.
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Fucking reptilians.
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Not necessarily evil, I'm at a loss to understand how anyone was inspired to follow this entity

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>B.C.E.
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A Fucking Frog
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>Julius ZEEZAR
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>>1583392

>Christ was born in the year 3 Before Christ

BC is a retarded fucking system.

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Is it more important as a Christian to go to church or to read and follow the Bible? Is a Christian who reads the bible but doesn't go to church more or less devout than a Christian who goes to church but doesn't read the bible?
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More important to go to church

most laymen didn't even read the bible
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>>1582856
>he still unironically believes Christianity is 'real'

Right click, hide
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>>1582856
A Christian who reads the bible and doesn't go to church is many times better than a Christian who goes to church and doesn't read the bible.

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Why do we revere objectivity? Why do we worship an indifference that has given us all the horrors of the universe?
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>>1582484
Why do we revere sophistry? Why do we post incomprehensible threads with big philosophy words mashed together in an attempt to seem smart?
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>>1582484
Did you lose an argument on ethics and morality the moment someone ventured to ask, "but why tho?" To your presupposed axiom, and are now all butt bothered?
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>>1582484
Because ressentiment.

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Why is slavery the only economic system that works?
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Slavery is proto-communism. Slaves are doing all the work for the community without any wages :)
From each according to his ability to each according to his need.
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Here's your reply.

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Hard to dump from phone
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Posing has always been interesting. The soldier wants you to think they are a fearless man.
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Were earlier wars more brutal than modern ones?
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>>1581991

How are you defining "brutality"?
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>>1582009
This. You mean in terms of blood and guts spilled everywhere? Or number of soldiers killed vs civilians killed?
"brutal" is such a subjective term senpai
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>>1582033
i mean the involvement of civilians, did civilians were targeted more often in earlier times and was the idea of a "civilian" during war even thought of?

why didn't nazis invade switzerland?

if they successfully invaded russia, would they eventually try to invade switzerland?
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>>1581614
Because they werenthollywood vilains, murfat
They invaded what they needed to
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>>1581614
Yes, read about operation Tannenbaum.
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>>1581637
They had plenty of plans to invade all over the world once the USSR was taken care of

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Has there even been in history a black majority country run by black people that was successful and prosperous? It seems like even African majority countries outside of Africa, like Haiti, tend to be abysmal.
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>>1581327
maybe Biafra if not the eternal anglo fucked them over
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>>1581327

Historically, one could talk of the Mali Empire, the Ethiopian Empire and maybe even the Kingdom of Kush.

In the current state, there are developing African countries which haven't gone full war-lord child soldier on us.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/18/business/africa-prosperity-rankings-2014/

So in a sense, they're nothing really GREAT, but they're not shit-tier as some stormfags might have you believe.
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>>1581327
South Africa is commonly held as one of the most successful black majority countries in the world, but if we're being perfectly frank, the ANC (the main "black" party) has been a hotbed of corruption and self-destructive policies since Mbeki's presidency, and even during Mandela's reign to a lesser extent.

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Why did the allies insist on keeping Hirohito as official head of state and absolving him of prosecution to maintain national unity, but didn't do the same thing for Hitler?

I mean, if Hirohito despite all his massive warcrimes, was allowed to carry on as head of state to maintain Japanese cohesion as a postwar anti-communist ally, why didn't they do the same for Hitler and germany? They could have kept him as a constitutional fuhrer with a pro-western anti-communist government.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it because Hirohito surrendered and didn't kill himself?
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Hirohito wasn't Tojo
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>>1581250
Hirohito was way more culpable than Tojo you know. He gave direct instructions for many of the warcrimes whereas Tojo tried to circumvent them. After the war, everyone agreed to pin everything on Tojo to save the royal family.

The following could amount to a crucial and timely philosophical breakthrough. It seems to be very close to what Immanuel Kant called the philosophers' stone.

The set of questions

"Do I seem free enough?
If yes, for how long probably?
If so, what could I do that seems best for all?"

could maybe form the root of a new ethics. It gives people a "start for thinking", which accounts for a basic bipolarity: (non-deity-) agents have two high objectives:
-existential/recurring personal liberation, for example from itch or death,...
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And it has some important conclusions for the present years' situation:
- Liberation is important only besides "best for all", therefore there has to be a dynamic limit to it: "increasingly voluntary liberations-sum equality" (Binding engagement subtracts from liberation.)
- Liberation, that is ignorant of other agents, risks their antiliberation, pressing them to liberate themselves as well. This possible mutually ignorant subgroup liberation can spiral down. The way out, even for past events, seems to be "increasingly voluntary...
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>>1581233
If man was not born to die then your system would work.
This is not the case, thus your system would ultimately fail.
We are not all you and I for one would work to deliberately hinder your pursuits to further my own.
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>>1581769
Thanks for your high quality reply.
>If man was not born to die then your system would work.
Certain death is ending soon, so that should as soon be a minor obstacle.
>We are not all you and I for one would work to deliberately hinder your pursuits to further my own.
If my pursuits antiliberate you and you are fucking angry, you could make a justified claim for compensation. There would still be conflict but maybe more vocal and less violent. Resources...
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>he paid 20,000 francs for each night he spent with a woman
remind me why you fucks worship this manlet loser again
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>20,000 francs for each night he spent with a woman
A laughable sum when compared to the cost of a princess or queen consort

t. Joo
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>>1581164
because I also am a manlet loser
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>>1581164
he went his own way

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Were Jews in Medieval Europe exclusively a mercantile class or were there Jewish farming/peasant communities? How about Jewish nobility?
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I'm pretty sure there were lots of Jewish farmers in Central Europe up until the Holocaust
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>>1581115
There weren't. At least not in Poland.
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Jews weren't like a class of merchants, they just had an edge in banking because Christianity forbid usury. Most Jews have never been bourgeois and they had communal structures in Jewish communities where food and shit was shared collectively. This primitive form of localized communism still exists in Israel but it's usually just a dining hall and some other shit. I forget what they're called, they tried reintroducing the system fully today but it didn't work.

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Pick your favorite and post it here.
http://www.pompeiana.org/Resources/Ancient/Graffiti%20from%20Pompeii.htm
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>>1580910
Someone needs to make a Pepe-Wojak reenactment of one of these.
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>>1580917
le history memes get it because pepe and wojak are memes and this is history MEME RARE PEPE SO SMUG haha
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>Pompeii Graffiti

I wonder, was 4 sestertii much?

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I know there's Greek contributions to Muslim civilization, as I looked it up on Wikipedia. (Yes I use it). But since the Romans had a wider sphere of influence as they conquered all of the known world back then, it would make sense that they had more prolonged influences on both the West and the East.

So what were some of the contributions that they gave to the Muslims?
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>>1580899
I don't really know. I can only assume that it was casual things like medicinal practices, cuisine etc.
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>>1580899

>(Yes I use it)
Nothing wrong with that, as long as it is not your only source of information.
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>>1580908
>>1580913
bumping for replies

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ITT : good /his/torical TV shows/movies
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>>1580800
Too bad it cost so much to make or we might have had the 6 odd seasons the writers wanted to cover the same period of time
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>>1580806
And they barely had any real battle scenes, i wonder why it was so expensive.
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>>1580813
>>1580806
Sex scenes.

And set pieces.


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