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Why don't you speak in tongues, /his/?
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>Americans
>Speaking in any tongue
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my aramaic is pretty good desu
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>>1580685
>actually believing a Christian God

There's a God, but it certainly isn't Christian.

How do we measure what is the most correct religion? Is it by the amount of followers? European flavors of paganism have been usurped by Christianity, so now Christianity is the most true religion. If Islam were to supplant Christianity then would Islam be the most correct?
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It's all spooks, anon
Don't get spooked
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>>1580669
Mine is True, don't listen to other, they're all heretic and pagan who believe in lie.
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Every religion is the most correct because they are all 0% plausible

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>called the thirty years' war
>only lasts 29 years and eleven months
/his/ joker thread
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>>1580614
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>HOLY
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>ROMAN

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Why is it that radical leftists accept hierarchies like parent-child, student-teacher, patient-doctor, etc, yet completely reject the laborer-manager and civilian-politician hierarchies?
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What makes one hierarchy legitimate yet another exploitation?
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>>1580485
By "radical leftists", I'll assume you mean Anarcho-Communists and Anarcho-Syndicalists. The idea is that the laborer-manager relationship is inherently exploitative, which hearkens back to the Labor Theory of Value. The argument that politicians and political institutions are oppressive rests on the belief that these political institutions are of the exploitative class, by the exploitative class, and for the exploitative class. Essentially, they believe that the rich pick the politicians, which there...
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>>1580724
Every time I hear someone whining about how someone telling blue collar workers what to do is unfair I wonder if that person has ever even met a blue collar worker.

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Do Northern Mexicans have anything to do with lands north of the Rio Grande and in the American southwest? Historically and culturally.
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>>1580356
>Republica del Norte
>Aztlan

Literally no Mexican wants this, not even the ones living in the states.
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>California leaving the Union

I would cheer like a motherfucker, provided the people who live there stay there.
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>>1580372
>>1580356
No one living in those areas has wanted to be associated with Mexico, since the end of the Vice-royalty of Spain, in 1812.

Mexico was the aggressor in that area between 1812 and 1848. Texas and California joined the USA to defend them selves against Mexico.

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Does the common citizen actually care about the political system he is being ruled by?
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>>1580251
Honest answer, not really. Average people are completely utilitarian, most people would prefer having a full belly and living in a safe home over political freedoms and all those other spooks.
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When it doesn't appear to be working, yes.

Contrary to popular belief, the French Revolution didn't go down because a bunch of pretentious cloistered academics wrote a bunch of letters to each other until the common folk felt inspired to put their ideas into action. France's economy had been mangled by a war with England, and much more crucially, the cost of food in Paris was through the roof.
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I think most people do care about the political process, but are discouraged by the fact the media's so obscurantist that no one ever knows what's going on

But I guess at the end of the day, it's the individual's responsibility to find out the news

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How did Romance and Love died, /his/?
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Apparently youths today have less sex than any generation since the 1930s. The cause is young people today have no money, and no one wants to take chicks back to their parents' basement

Can't confirm though, I've never had sex and I'm poor
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>>1580258
I'm broke and I fuck like there's no tomorrow.

Also sex =/= love
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How did Manchus go from the rulers of China to an irrelevant people with an extinct language?
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They started speaking Chinese
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>>1580028
Sinicization. Also many of the Manchu Generals were Hans who were dissatisfied with the Ming to begin with
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Communism is a hell of a drug.

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He was the hero the Empire needed, but that it did not deserve.
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There's literally no reason to convert back to paganism other than a butthurt resentment towards Christianity
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>>1580232
>not wanting sacred temple prostitutes to make a comeback
>not wanting a religion that is actually more in tune with how people are then focused on making them into something they can never actually be

Don't get me wrong, polytheism is ultimately as unverifiable as monotheism is; but frankly the abrahamic faiths have little to offer me that actually interests me.
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>>1580232
Julian had more to offer beyond his return to paganism. His administrative reforms, his prudence in financial and legal matters - he was honestly on par with Marcus Aurelius.

Julian was an honorable man. Among many things, he:
-Fired all the useless courtiers and eunuchs and intriguers from the Imperial court to prevent them from enriching themselves from state funds
-Opened up inquiries in order to purge the Imperial bureaucracy of corruption and incompetence
-Attempted to steer urban centers away...
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Were people more barbaric in earlier times than now? As in, do you think people would still rape, kill babies, torture people if they could get away with it. If so do you think its because people are "better educated" now?
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>>1579856
Back then, barbarians survived. Nowadays you don't need to be a barbarian to survive.
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>>1579858
>implying all of these cuck genes didnt come from somewhere.
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> because people are "better educated" now
More like because they got easier access to the cheap entertainment. It is way easy to watch an another porn video than trying to rape someone, why bother with torture if you can troll anons, or shit on youtube comments.

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Was Augustus the single greatest leader of all time?
>He turned Rome into what it was always meant to be.
>Found Rome a city of brick and left it a city of marble.
>Consolidated power while keeping the peace.
>Ended a brutal civil war.
>Loved by the people.
If not him then who?
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>>1579681
he also spawned a shitty dynasty of inept degenerates. Also, who's to say that Mark Antony wouldn't have made a better Rome?
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>>1579689
He was pussy wiped by Cleopatra. His loyalty by then belonged to Egypt and not Rome.
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>having a belly button on armor

why?

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Why are they always on the wrong side of history?

>crusades
>napoleonic wars
>ww1
>ww2
>cold war
>eu
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> muh Trianon
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If your country didnĀ“t take a piece it must be a faggot country
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>>1579597
>the wrong side of history
Fuck off

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>mfw i exist
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>>1579583
>mfw i think i exist
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>>1579583

Prove it
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>>1579600
I think therefore I am

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>yfw Armenians still sacrifice goats to their corrupted version of a Christian "god"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagh
Heresy thread
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>>1579388
>Christian infighting thread
Ftfy
For such a peaceful religion you seem to hate everyone that slightly disagrees with you in any way
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>>1579388
There's nothing wrong with this. Besides Armenia was the first ever Christian country. They're just keeping true to its roots.
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Why are brown people so weird?

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Why did they gradually begin loosing against barbarians? Was there a degradation of Roman military tradition or did knowledge of how to fight effectively just gradually disseminate to the snow niggers like the Goths?
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>>1579384
Rome or at least it's generals just began to rely on Barbarians partially to fill their own goals. Another factor would eventually be the growing Judeo-Christian presence in Rome and among its citizens. Worshippers of a man who preaches non-violence are less willing to take up arms then a man who worships Mars the God of war.
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>>1579397
Christians have never had an issue when it came to picking up the sword.
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>>1579384
Feel to blame this guy.

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What was the most degenerate place and time in the history? Meme answers doesn't counts.
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>Meme answers doesn't counts
>Literally using the degeneracy meme

So, what you're saying is you don't want any answers?
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>>1579248
WRE just prior to collapse desu
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>>1579354
Wouldn't you think Pagan times would be more "degenerate" with the weird Bacchus rituals or gladiator fights?

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Hypothetical anachronistic question:

Who would win between the Romans and the Mongols?

Could the Romans have been the ones to stop the great horde? Bearing in mind that they struggled against Parthian tactics.

Or would the Mongols have been the ones to take down the empire? Would they have ended up in a Catalaunian plains type situation?
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Mongols, the have future technology.
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>>1579243
Rome, Rome could beat them with auxiliaries and Rome knew how to counter pure horsearcher tactics and pure horsemen armies.
Before you cite Carrhae, The Roman commander was inadequate and he threw away his cavalry on a death and glory last stand.


>>1579278
Navy Seal
Vikings
Crusaders
Spartans
Romans
Everything else.
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>>1579310
Assuming the Seal has enough ammo
Assuming the Viking Berserkers have armor and adequate weapons
Assuming the Crusaders are levy and not Frankish knights or fearless Teutonics
Assuming the Spartans are ordered and in a pass
Assuming the Romans are post marian pre imperial non-vets, if they are vets put them above sparta.
Crusader and Viking is also interchangable Berserkers were just dudes with PTSD and Crusaders would have had better weapons armor training and ideals.

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I find the idea of this to be interesting.

But what they need in order to not be LARP-tier is something like a god-head or eternal truth that is the equivalent of such concepts in Abrahamic and Dharmic religions and such. Or maybe a greater focus on nature and spirits of the earth and/or earth mother.

Like Platos 'unmoved mover' with the gods as beings underneath that. Maybe if Julian "the apostate" had tried that, Greco-Roman Polytheism could have been saved.
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> implying greeks and romans took their religion seriously
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Stupid hippies cherry picking pagan "ideas" crystals and dreadlocks are in your future
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>>1579179

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Things /his/ needs to learn to acknowledge:

1. Aurelian was the greatest Roman emperor.

He takes over, Rome is literally just Italy and the Balkans.

It is arguably the weakest force out of the Germanics (now acting slightly united), Gallic Empire (England and France), Palmyrene Empire (Eastern Roman Empire), and Persia.

Aurelian, turn by turn rapes each force and expands Rome almost up to Trajan levels of territory. He does this in six years.

Sure, the second Claudius helped set him up, and Probus helped keep the legacy going, but Auerlian...
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Also, Illyrian Generals = best dynasty even without being a dynasty
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>>1579148
Who?

Googling this guy ayy lmao I thought Julius Caesar was the last Roman emperor
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>>1579148
>murdered by his own men

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Why do people think only service sector employees and factory workers belong to the 'proletariat' or working class? Anyone who does not own capital and only makes money through selling his own labor can be considered to belong to the proletariat, including professionals.
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>>1578938
t. suburban middle class cuckboy wanting to cosplay as a worker
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Anyone who does not own his own land is not a real man.

Wage work is boys work.
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>>1579679
>The only way to validate your masculinity is to agree to be in debt for 3 decades and buy a farm!
Silliest opinion ever. Real men are fiscally responsible.

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I just have a question for those interested in theological philosophy, for fun.

Normally Baptism is performed on an infant and Confirmation is performed on an adolescent.

Now, what I want you to focus on is the timing aspect.

Let's say the time span between Baptism and Confirmation was reduced down to the shortest time reasonably possible.

For example, someone who was not baptized as an infant but has the ceremony done right before their confirmation.

What possible spiritual implications are possible with the "purity" and "speed...
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>>1578919
>Let's say the time span between Baptism and Confirmation was reduced down to the shortest time reasonably possible.
>For example, someone who was not baptized as an infant but has the ceremony done right before their confirmation
some of the people in my confirmation class weren't baptized as infants so they just had it in the same ceremony that we were confirmed in
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There is already a containment thread for your kind here >>1578825
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>>1578936
You're mistaken.

Religion is not "kind."

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Should greater reparations be made for the Saxons at Verden?
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the pagans won in the end
every Christmas, billions of people put a tree in their living room

checkmate, christcucks
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>>1578881
>greater reparations
have there already been reparations? that's just fucking retarded
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>>1578955
fuggg

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Daily reminder that if you think USSR was good or successful you are retarded.
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I'm a socialist and I hate the USSR because everyone things socialism means the USSR.
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>>1578821
They betrayed the international
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I think a not so small part of the Russian population think the USSR only failed because of foreign sabotage.

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So does /his/ know of any cool last stands? Bonus points for winners
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>>1578805
>last stand
>winner
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>>1578817
Good point, but still are there any cool ones where the defenders didn't do too shit?
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>>1578830
Well, there are these that are quite impressive

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Alamo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Camar%C3%B3n

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>there people on this board actually siding with the Franks/Latins over the Eastern Romans

Why?

The Eastern Romans were much more advanced in every single level. Their economy was both enormous and complex, and made that of even the Venetians and the Hansa look primitive in comparison. Their culture was urban, as it had been in the Roman Empire; they maintained both a standing professional army as well as a small army of educated bureaucrats that administered the Empire, unlike anything seen in Western Europe. They had WAGE LABORERS,...
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pay denbts
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>>1578794
>implying 1204 had anything to do with debts

What kind of idiots actually believe a pretender and a charlatan to the throne?
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Because MUH CATHOLICISM and MUH WESTERN EUROPE. Sympathising with Byzantines (against anything other than Muslims) is a step away from siding with Russians. Aside from that gotta admit, the Basileos at the time was a fucking piece of shit (just like his entire dynasty) who managed to outdo Andronicus Ducas at fucking up the Empire and shat on everything the Komnenos dynasty achieved.

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Was democracy a mistake?
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Yes
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Democracy itself is a good thing, we just don't deserve it. Human nature always fuck everything up.
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>>1578740
Yes

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What does his think about black nobility in Europe?
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>>1578734
WE
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>>1578756
>>1578734
We was medici

Alessandro de' Medici, Duke of Florence
Historians believe he had been born to a servant of African descent who was working in the Medici household, identified in documents as Simonetta da Collevecchio. The nickname (il Moro) is said to derive from his features
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>>1578734
>>1579741
Why can't painters of olden days draw black features accurately?

I mean, most of the time, it looks like they're drawing white people with black skin.

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What if the Mongol empire is never halted from wrecking the middle east. What is the fate of the region, Islam and Africa? Does Islam get wiped out what happens to the crusaders states and the mamluks?
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I don't think there were a lot of places they didn't wreck.

They didn't slaughter native populations if the native populations gave them stuff and didn't fight them.

If they did, we wouldn't have either China or Russia, and the world would be dramatically better.
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>>1578729
The Mongols weren't about wiping out Islam. The Mongols ate that shit up like it was horse-jerky. They did not ethnically cleanse anybody because they found all cultures had something to provide. Many Mongols adopted the faiths and customs of the peoples they conquered. All that would have happened if the Mongols conquered the entire Middle East is that there would have been another Khanate or two once things fell apart.
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>>1578749
Actually, the military Mongol ruler of the middle east at the time was Christian. Helugu

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Did the Huns have slaves/a system of slavery?
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>>1578410
Ignore that map. It's pure bullshit.

And of course. All ancient civilizations had slavery. Hunnic slaves turn up in Priscus and Procopius I believe.
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>>1578410
Huns never controlled that much of the Caucasus, the Sassanids literally wrecked an army of Huns outside of Ctesiphon and again in Armenia/Georgia.
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>>1578432
They didn't control anything other than the Pannonian Basin and a few other surrounding tributary tribes. People forget that the Huns were on the move, they didn't hold Alania at the same time as Sirmium hundreds of miles away.

Is it historically correct to say almost all of the blacks in the american continent are descendants of african slaves?
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>>1578330

Poor ruse, but Obama actually is a descendant of slaves through his mother.
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>>1578334
>hurr
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>>1578334
It is not meant to be a bait or a ruse.
I am legitimately curious.

I said almost all blacks.Obviously there is immigration too,not just slave trade.

Didn't the majority come from slavery?were there blacks in brazil and in usa before the europeans brought them?


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